Vise Info Thread

[Fierljeppen]

This early " G.M. Yost" no. 68 swivel jaw vise comes from new member @cain589 on his very 1st posting.

jaws..............4"
jaw width....5-1/4"
weight.........45 lbs.

 

[Outlawmws]

Actually it is wrought iron

No, No, No, that would be "rot" Iron! Don';t you read CL ads?

 

[KMScott]

Goodell-Pratt Company #679. 2" jaws that opens to 4-3/8" and weights 5 lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Fisher Double Screw Leg #4. 6-1/4" jaws that opens to 7-1/2" and weights 120 lbs.

 

[master Zoda]

Here is a Stanley 741 not from Jersey. Do you want to add it to the spreadsheet? I could add some more pictures and specs.

 

[KMScott]

Here is a Stanley 741 not from Jersey. Do you want to add it to the spreadsheet? I could add some more pictures and specs.

You bet, pics and spec:s if you could and happy to add it to the Spreadsheet. Kevin

 

[master Zoda]

Stanley 741 patent 1 28 08. One ear is broken of the clamp handle it looks like it happened long ago. Overall in decent shape I plan to leave it as is. I did clean the tail to find out exactly what was stamped on it unfortunately Stanley is illegal.
I have been hoping to come across some version of the Stanley Sweetheart for sometime I have even considered buying one off ebay. I came across this one at a flee market I am very pleased. The stamp is different then most of the ones I have seen pictures of and there is no embellishments in the casting. The dimensions are a bit different than the Jersey 714 on the spreadsheet.

Weight 2.8lbs
Jaw width is rite at 1-1/2"
Opens 1-11/16"

I would love to hear some more information on these vises I there are a few guys on here that have gobs of them.

 

[akasrick]

Stanley 741 patent 1 28 08. One ear is broken of the clamp handle it looks like it happened long ago. Overall in decent shape I plan to leave it as is. I did clean the tail to find out exactly what was stamped on it unfortunately Stanley is illegal.
I have been hoping to come across some version of the Stanley Sweetheart for sometime I have even considered buying one off ebay. I came across this one at a flee market I am very pleased. The stamp is different then most of the ones I have seen pictures of and there is no embellishments in the casting. The dimensions are a bit different than the Jersey 714 on the spreadsheet.

Weight 2.8lbs
Jaw width is rite at 1-1/2"
Opens 1-11/16"

I would love to hear some more information on these vises I there are a few guys on here that have gobs of them.

'm-Z'

Congratz on your find.
Looking at the Stanley catalogs that I have here, it
looks as if the date on that vise is somewhere between 1914 - 1926.
Both of those catalogs are available for download online.
Possibly more catalogs are available between those dates.
No gobs here.

akasrick

 

[master Zoda]

'm-Z'

Congratz on your find.
Looking at the Stanley catalogs that I have here, it
looks as if the date on that vise is somewhere between 1914 - 1926.
Both of those catalogs are available for download online.
Possibly more catalogs are available between those dates.
No gobs here.

akasrick

I have seen some with an additional pat date from 1917 stamped on in addition to the 08 date. I was assuming this meant it was made prior to 1917 but I could be wrong.

 

[akasrick]

I have seen some with an additional pat date from 1917 stamped on in addition to the 08 date. I was assuming this meant it was made prior to 1917 but I could be wrong.

At 1917 or post (not prior) 1917.

https://www.datamp.org/index.php
may have the answer to your query.
Good luck.

akasrick

 

[master Zoda]

At 1917 or post (not prior) 1917.

https://www.datamp.org/index.php
may have the answer to your query.
Good luck.

akasrick

I mean one like mine without the 1917 stamp would have been made prior to 1917. I have seen other examples with both dates. So my assumption was that one with only the 08 stamp and not 08 and 17 would have been made prior to 17.

 

[Patrickm82]

Have any of you guys seen a prentiss 50 with 1240 cast into the front of the dynamic jaw? Any ideas on what it refers to. Mfg. date?

 

[master Zoda]

I mean one like mine without the 1917 stamp would have been made prior to 1917. I have seen other examples with both dates. So my assumption was that one with only the 08 stamp and not 08 and 17 would have been made prior to 17.

This is interesting I imagine the change in embem would translate to the vises as well. So mine would be the latest version.

 

[akasrick]

Where are you dating your vise at?

akasrick

 

[master Zoda]

Where are you dating your vise at?

akasrick

At first I was thinking that it was prior to 1917 based on the fact that it is stamped with the 1908 date but is missing the 1917 that I have seen stamped on other examples of stanley vises.

If the above information is correct and my vise has the third version of the sweetheart emblem then it must be from 1923 to 32.

I am no expert on the subject and I am trying to learn what I can about my litle sweetheart.

Of course that article has nothing to do with vises so it could be totally irrelevant.

 

[KMScott]

Parkinson salesman vise. No spec:s

 

[KMScott]

Reed 114 Filer's Vise. 4" jaws that opens to 5-1/2" and weights 45 lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Charles Parker Jewelers Vise's #45, 48, 49 and a Machinist Swivel jaw #50 Catalog page. Hope some day to see one of these.

 

[master Zoda]

Charles Parker Jewelers Vise's #45, 48, 49 and a Machinist Swivel jaw #50 Catalog page. Hope some day to see one of these.

Where they realy engraved like that I hope so.

 

[Outlawmws]

Where they realy engraved like that I hope so.

"Ornamented in Bronze and Vermilion" so probably painted and pinstriped like the some of the other jeweler's vises

 

[KMScott]

"Ornamented in Bronze and Vermilion" so probably painted and pinstriped like the some of the other jeweler's vises

Didn’t Parker engrave their shot guns. Just going by memory.

 

[Outlawmws]

Some but while the same guy started both companies, guns had a long history of fancy engraving. Vices were built by blacksmiths in their early history.

 

[master Zoda]

Didn’t Parker engrave their shot guns. Just going by memory.

They made some of the finest and most beutifuly embellished shot guns ever and a highly sought after by collectors.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Bicycles were wildly popular in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Nearly everyone wanted to get into the act - including vise manufacturers. Here are a few from noted vise makers
HOLLANDS BICYCLE VISE

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[CRSINMICH]

LEWIS BICYCLE VISES​

 

[CRSINMICH]

PRENTISS BICYCLE VISE​

 

[CRSINMICH]

LESSER KNOWN BICYCLE VISES​

 

[Outlawmws]

This may possibly be a Goodell-Pratt (part No. in the Vise Spreadsheet, but no real details or links? - so possibly completing more info there.)

Small clamp-on vise, and the only mark I can find is No. 663 on the Main screw head (How I found a spread sheet listing) - 1-7/16 jaws, weighs 2 lbs maybe a touch over, 1-1/2 opening and still have full engagement of the slide bars inside, 2" bench capacity, (maybe a fraction more - Free at an estate sale yesterday.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Outlaw: Here's a page from a 1926 Goodell-Pratt catalog showing a #663 vise. It was apparently a new item that year.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks CRS! so Confirmed! (No paper label left, despite the paint actually being is decent shape!

 

[Fierljeppen]

LESSER KNOWN BICYCLE VISES​

Thanks to the vise ad from @CRSINMICH, I'd like to solve the mystery bicycle vise that has been mislabeled a "Hollands Star" before, including a current eBay listing.



It's a "Dry Dock Iron Co." bicycle vise, patented by W. J. Wanless on March 30, 1897.



Previously, I always thought the vise in question was related in some way to the Lewis Tool Co. bicycle vise. But after seeing the second page of the patent, I think the Lewis Tool bicycle vise is probably a derivative of the W. J. Wanless vise.

Thanks for the information Chris! That was fun, let's do it again.

 

[RTM]

At first I was thinking that it was prior to 1917 based on the fact that it is stamped with the 1908 date but is missing the 1917 that I have seen stamped on other examples of stanley vises.

If the above information is correct and my vise has the third version of the sweetheart emblem then it must be from 1923 to 32.

I am no expert on the subject and I am trying to learn what I can about my litle sweetheart.

Of course that article has nothing to do with vises so it could be totally irrelevant.

Remember, all this information on logo dating and era's was all done posthumously by collectors. It's not something Stanley recorded in real time. But I would believe the logos over features etc.

Regarding your patent #, it could be that the feature from the '17 patent was removed from the vise.

Certain plane timelines are based on the standard #4 plane, and people freak out when their fancy specialty plane doesn't line up with the features listed. Some plane they sold 1000s per day vs a few thousand a decade should not be compared for features, especially if its something that is unique to both. I imagine vises were the same way. A feature dated at 1923 to '32 could show up in 1940 in a slow seller.

 

[master Zoda]

Remember, all this information on logo dating and era's was all done posthumously by collectors. It's not something Stanley recorded in real time. But I would believe the logos over features etc.

Regarding your patent #, it could be that the feature from the '17 patent was removed from the vise.

Certain plane timelines are based on the standard #4 plane, and people freak out when their fancy specialty plane doesn't line up with the features listed. Some plane they sold 1000s per day vs a few thousand a decade should not be compared for features, especially if its something that is unique to both. I imagine vises were the same way. A feature dated at 1923 to '32 could show up in 1940 in a slow seller.

I would like to know what year they began casting Stanley or the model numbers into the side? What years did they change the stamped logo and when did they stop doing it? What year did they start?

It is just one of those things I really really want a clear timeline. I love these little things I would really like to have a clear picture of evolution and history.

 

[KMScott]

Rock Island 568. 8-1/4 jaws that opens to 14" and weights 345 lbs. Thanks Fierljeppen for the spec: sheet.

 

[Woods_Wanderer]

That 568 sure looks like a 68. Very similar measurements too.

 

[KMScott]

Woods, Yea I agree. The 68 has cast in jaws where the 568 has replaceable ones. Might be the reason for a model number change.

Added the bicycle vises CRS, the Dry Dock bicycle vise from Fierljeppen and the 663 from Outlaw. Thanks guys

 

[Fierljeppen]

Rock Island 568. 8-1/4 jaws that opens to 14" Waiting on weight.

Here's some catalog specs for the Rock Island no. 568 chipping vise.



What a beast!

 

[ranger08]

This may possibly be a Goodell-Pratt (part No. in the Vise Spreadsheet, but no real details or links? - so possibly completing more info there.)

Small clamp-on vise, and the only mark I can find is No. 663 on the Main screw head (How I found a spread sheet listing) - 1-7/16 jaws, weighs 2 lbs maybe a touch over, 1-1/2 opening and still have full engagement of the slide bars inside, 2" bench capacity, (maybe a fraction more - Free at an estate sale yesterday.

although 663 is a model from Goodell pratt, yours is not one of the ones shown from the early 1920s to mid 1950s
it has no horn, the under bench screw is different and has no raised panel with the company stamped on it.

this is my 664

I think yours is made by goodell pratt however one of their models sold through the millers falls label (mohawk and shelburne) as their cheaper range

 

[Outlawmws]

although 663 is a model from Goodell pratt, yours is not one of the ones shown from the early 1920s to mid 1950s
it has no horn, the under bench screw is different and has no raised panel with the company stamped on it.

Ranger you are looking at the wrong Image: see the "160" series -Its either missing a paper sticker or G-P made it for others to brand. the knurled knob and machined pad on the clamp are an exact match yours is the 161 series:

 

[ranger08]

This one is yours, sticker says goodell pratt TOOLSMITHS, havent seen that sticker before must be a very early one