Vise Info Thread

[Outlawmws]

This one is yours, sticker says goodell pratt TOOLSMITHS, havent seen that sticker before must be a very early one

That's the one.

 

[454ragtop]

While on the subject of Goodell Pratt, couple pics of my 360 Linemans vise here

The VISES of Garage Journal

Jelloyeti, https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331362&highlight=FPU The one Mark worked on is a 3 1/2" but there is also 6" model at about 100 lbs.

www.garagejournal.com

1-1/4" jaw width, 7/8" max safe opening, weighs 1 lb.

 

[ranger08]

one for the spreadsheet
W Marples & sons model number 4672 "eclipse" no 1, 3inch jaws, opens 3.5 inch, 13lbs, cast iron
patent 1905 made until mid 1930s

 

[Outlawmws]

That's a cool looking vise!

 

[master Zoda]

This one is already on the spread sheat but mine is slightly different it is missing the diamonds in the casting. Pexto 1 3/4.

Weight 3.4 lbs
Width of jaws 1-3/4"
Opens 1-5/8" I think that is missing from the spreadsheet currently
Clamp on base opens to an impressive 2-1/8"



These things seem to be quite rare and only manufactured for a short time. Very similar design to the Stanley sweetheart. I think they are actually a better design. The meatball is prettier and the cheaks on the dynamic jaw. The way the spindle is held is beter to and it allows the end of the jaw casting to be solid.

So the story goes I came across an ebay listing for an old clamp that came with an old vise to. I didn't recognize what exactly the vise was there were no recognizable marks on it. For $18 plus shipping I figured it was worth the risk I could tell that was a quality vise. This is my first ebay vise and it was almost as exciting as an estate sale find only because the seller didnt know what they had.

 

[may0naise]

When trying to figure out what vise I bought I found this brochure for sheldon wood working vises that does not seem to be in the spread sheet.

 

[KMScott]

When trying to figure out what vise I bought I found this brochure for sheldon wood working vises that does not seem to be in the spread sheet.

I am not sure that woodworking vises are easy to identify. Does your vise haver a model number stamped or cast? Is there any interest guys in woodworking vises on the Spreadsheet. I spent many hours adding Post vises but honestly only a couple post vises were displayed and most were by me.

 

[master Zoda]

i am not sure that woodworking vises are easy to identify. Does your vise haver a model number stamped or cast? Is there any interest guys in woodworking vises on the Spreadsheet. I spent many hours adding Post vises but honestly only a couple post vises were displayed and most were by me.

I have two leg vises that's what I call them. I have no idea who made them or when. I have two woodworking vises they are both branded and identifiable. I think less time has been spent studying and compiling data on these types of vises. It should be fairly easey over time to identify and recognize most woodworking vises. The leg vises will definitely be harder if not impossible to identify more than a few.


Do you want just pictures and specs?

 

[RTM]

There are so many unmarked WW vises it would be hard. But lots of great ones out there.

 

[Outlawmws]

Maybe stick to marked or at least documented WW vises?

Are the big tilting pattern makers vises in the spreadsheet Dr Scott? Those are technically Wood working vises.

 

[KMScott]

I have two leg vises that's what I call them. I have no idea who made them or when. I have two woodworking vises they are both branded and identifiable. I think less time has been spent studying and compiling data on these types of vises. It should be fairly easey over time to identify and recognize most woodworking vises. The leg vises will definitely be harder if not impossible to identify more than a few.


Do you want just pictures and specs?

So you want me to add your Wood Working vises? If you want your Wood Working vise added then I ask that it has a model number. If not then I really don’t want to add them.

Maybe stick to marked or at least documented WW vises?

Are the big tilting pattern makers vises in the spreadsheet Dr Scott? Those are technically Wood working vises.

I could not find the Wilton Wood Working vise. If it has a model number then it should be on the spreadsheet. I’ll find one later and post it.

 

[CRSINMICH]

WILTON WOODWORKERS VISES​

 

[CRSINMICH]

1961 SELDON (not Sheldon) SPEED VISE​

 

[CRSINMICH]

1969 ECLIPSE INSTRUMENT VICE - 1/2" jaws
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[master Zoda]

Genuine Volcan no. 1
1/8"-2" pipe capacity
15-1/2" long chain including the screw
3.7lbs

This one was a bid crusty so I soaked in simple green and then evaporust and I am going to rub it with some linseed oil.

 

[master Zoda]

Crown no. 2
2" pipe capacity
11lbs

This one is a new brand for the spreadsheet. It is missing a bolt on ring on the back side that was used to pass a chain through the vise. I am assuming to fasren it down to something for some purpose I don't quite understand.

 

[lilredex]

Anyone seen a pipe vise like this? Almost looks like a Shopsmith accessory. Found at a neighbour's garage sale.

 

[CRSINMICH]

master Zoda: From a 1942 Williams catalog

 

[RTM]

Anyone seen a pipe vise like this? Almost looks like a Shopsmith accessory. Found at a neighbour's garage sale.

That almost looks like something to hold a gas cylinder upright

 

[KMScott]

Penn 583. 4-1/2" jaws

 

[KMScott]

Stephens # 6. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 6-1/2" and weights 60 lbs

 

[master Zoda]

Stephens # 6. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 6-1/2" and weights 60 lbs

Ooo that's a nice one.

 

[master Zoda]

That almost looks like something to hold a gas cylinder upright

For mounting something it wouldn't be very effective or convenient as a pipe vise.

 

[master Zoda]

master Zoda: From a 1942 Williams catalog

I have the no. 3 also and a no.33 chail wrench which is a monster.

 

[FullRaceMerc]

Anyone seen a pipe vise like this? Almost looks like a Shopsmith accessory. Found at a neighbour's garage sale.

Is it an attachment to replace the saddle of a floor jack?

 

[CRSINMICH]

SOME OTHER SHELDON VISES
Nos 10, 12, 20, 35, 45, 50, 60, 70, 85​

 

[Fierljeppen]

I have a question for my peers on a recent eBay sale of an Athol no. 3 clamp-on vise, which had the clamp ground off and sold for 5X the normal amount I'd expect to see for that particular vise.



Good looking vise, but why would it fetch so much more than the original?



Or is the vise unmodified and I'm unaware of this version?

 

[master Zoda]

I have a question for my peers on a recent eBay sale of an Athol no. 3 clamp-on vise, which had the clamp ground off and sold for 5X the normal amount I'd expect to see for that particular vise.



Good looking vise, but why would it fetch so much more than the original?



Or is the vise unmodified and I'm unaware of this version?

It looks like a swivel base version missing the base to me.

 

[KMScott]

Never seen one like that. The base looks like it either has seen plenty of rust or that’s the original surface from casting. Normally when you machine the bottom you would see a more precision center boss since you would be cutting on something like a rotary table. Also their Isn’t that much material after removing the clamp I’m my experience.

 

[RTM]

I have a question for my peers on a recent eBay sale of an Athol no. 3 clamp-on vise, which had the clamp ground off and sold for 5X the normal amount I'd expect to see for that particular vise.



Good looking vise, but why would it fetch so much more than the original?



Or is the vise unmodified and I'm unaware of this version?

Looks like two different vises to my naïve and untrained eye. That bottom center pedestal on the ebay one doesn't look like it was added on by the user ¢¢

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss # 89. 3" jaws that opens to 3-1/2".

 

[KMScott]

Stewart # 10. 4-1/2" jaws.

 

[ranger08]

Stephens # 6. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 6-1/2" and weights 60 lbs

wowee

 

[454ragtop]

I have a question for my peers on a recent eBay sale of an Athol no. 3 clamp-on vise, which had the clamp ground off and sold for 5X the normal amount I'd expect to see for that particular vise.



Good looking vise, but why would it fetch so much more than the original?



Or is the vise unmodified and I'm unaware of this version?

Fierljeppen the static body of that No. 3 vise looks quite a bit different than the clamp on Athol No. 3. Looks like the base under the dynamic is thicker, note where the "N" is in relation to the dynamic, and if the clamp on had the casting for the clamp cut off flush the jaw support would be thinned considerably compared to that Ebay vise. It's a strange one, don't think Athol used 2 swivel locks either, leads me to think someone drilled those holes to mount it, weird. Hope the buyer knows something we don't and is happy with his purchase.

 

[Fierljeppen]

Thanks for all of the input on the Athol no.3 vise!

I couldn't find any catalog scans of the vise and my best educated guess is that it's from circa (1914-early 1920's). I'm also guessing the new owner isn't the only one who knows something more than we do, at this point. Bidding was very strong, right out of the gate, with seven different bidders.

I'm really hoping the new owner is willing and able to enlighten us on another GJ vise puzzle.

 

[Outlawmws]

I think that #3 has a clamp on base that it slots into, (that round base section has a groove for a set screw) and its a swivel base clamp on - I have a Miller's Falls clamp on that is the same way, and so does my son. (it just took a dozen years to find him a base....)

 

[CRSINMICH]

MYSTERY ATHOL #3
This falls somewhere between POSSIBILITY and WILD GUESS
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Here are two clips that show clamp-on vises that swivel. The first one mentions that it had "position pins". Perhaps the holes in Fierljeppin's mystery #3 could have served that function. It's a stretch but ??? The second clip shows two JERSEY vises. One is a clamp-on and the other is a through-the-bench mount. The stats for each are identical (except the t-t-b weighed more). Look closely at the arrows pointing at their bases. Does the t-t-b mount's base look thicker? (Like the mystery #3). Trying to discern such small details from 109 year old catalog drawings is iffy to say the least. I'm not suggesting that the mystery #3 is one of these vises but maybe this conjecture could help somehow. Or, maybe I just had fun with it.

 

[Fierljeppen]

One other interesting feature about the Athol no. 3 mystery vise is the missing the embossed "Mfg by A.M.Co. Athol Mass" I've seen on all of the other Athol No. 3 vises that I've seen.



I did verify that the specs of the mystery vise are identical to a normal Athol no. 3 vise. Looks like it should have been in an Athol catalog no. 32 if anyone has one laying around.

 

[Amesjr79]

I've got an old American Scale vice that i can't find any information on. It's a NO 14 swivel vice with 3 1/2 jaws. can anyone help me with finding parts

 

[Outlawmws]

can anyone help me with finding parts

Pics always help