Vise Info Thread

[trijeff]

Wow that Rocky is a real beast!

 

[tool_scrounge]

It looks like Swayne Robinson & Co. used two different vise styles for the metl-former vise. The main difference I can tell from the photos was did it have a horn (1961) or a hole (1955) on the back of the fixed jaw (main base). Attached are photos of my later one. It is complete except for the 2nd handle. I'll have to get around to making one of those.


Swayne Robinson & Co was an iron and aluminum casting factory founded in 1842 and operated until 1997, when it closed and its owners filed for bankruptcy. Until it closed, it was the oldest family-owned business in America. Being a foundry, I suspect they made their own vise instead of buying one and modifying it..

Specs:
3.5" wide jaws
3.25" max opening (fully supported)
Weight: 17 lbs (bare vise)

 

[Utahtrapper]

Local CL does this Wilton look worth 50.00

https://www.ksl.com/classifieds/listing/51317312

 

[tool_scrounge]

Local CL does this Wilton look worth 50.00

https://www.ksl.com/classifieds/listing/51317312

No it does not

 

[KMScott]

Hey Tool Scrounge, can you add spec:s for your Metl-former. I do not have jaw width, weight and max opening. Thanks for your pictures. Nice vise and with all the accessories. Kevin

 

[Utahtrapper]

No it does not

Thanks not a pro when it comes to Vises

 

[tool_scrounge]

Hey Tool Scrounge, can you add spec:s for your Metl-former. I do not have jaw width, weight and max opening. Thanks for your pictures. Nice vise and with all the accessories. Kevin

Specs added to original post

 

[KMScott]

Specs added to original post

Thanks. Added to spreadsheet.

 

[SAA44-40]

KM- hmm, you and your buddy get to live in Estes Park, and find cool tools there as well? I’m envious! Can’t believe your welder buddy found that metl shaper. De he purchase loose or attached to a vise?

 

[KMScott]

KM- hmm, you and your buddy get to live in Estes Park, and find cool tools there as well? I’m envious! Can’t believe your welder buddy found that metl shaper. De he purchase loose or attached to a vise?

He got the whole package in the original box. Estes Park has plenty of retiree's and his vise collection in the thirty years he has been collection is just amazing. I bet he has 60+ vises and most are keepers. I need to go up there and take pic's. He has a vise tree with clamp-ons at least 6-8" high with at least 30 vises not included in his vise collection I mentioned earlier. He is the person that started me in this business.

 

[KMScott]

American Scale # 79 Swivel Jaw Vise. 6" jaws that opens to ? and weights 190lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Reed 33. 5" jaws that weights 119lbs and opens to 6-1/2".

 

[KMScott]

Hollands H4 Swivel Base. 4" jaws that open to 5" and weights 25lbs with a Hardy punch.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss 526/516. 5-1/2" jaws opens to 8" and weights 85lbs

 

[KMScott]

Monarch 229 Coachmakers vise. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to under 12" and weights 50lbs

 

[KMScott]

American Scale 211A. 4" Jaws. Weight? Max opening?

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss #94. 5" jaws that weights 85lbs and opens to 8".

 

[KMScott]

Pittsburgh Double Swivel-er. 3-1/2" jaws that opens 5-3/4" and weights I believe 61lbs. RARE.

 

[JOYCEfromNS]

Hoping I'm in the right section to post help to ID this little Made in USA vise I picked up today at a flea market. Believe the colour to be original could use a little maintenance but functions fine. Any clues would be appreciated. Doesn't seem to be a Makers mark on it only seemingly part markings V10, V11, V12 etc. Again appreciate any assistance you might render.

 

[KMScott]

Hoping I'm in the right section to post help to ID this little Made in USA vise I picked up today at a flea market. Believe the colour to be original could use a little maintenance but functions fine. Any clues would be appreciated. Doesn't seem to be a Makers mark on it only seemingly part markings V10, V11, V12 etc. Again appreciate any assistance you might render.]

Hi Joyce
I am not familier with your new vise but there is many vise experts in the main vise thread that I bet could help you. I have seen many vises but not familier with yours. Click this link and post your question there.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44782&page=3122

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss # 19 Swivel Jaw Vise. 3-1/2" jaws that opens to 4-3/4 and weights 32lbs. Here is one I restored.

 

[trijeff]

Like usual, just jaw dropping gorgeous work there Kevin

 

[KMScott]

Thanks Jeff, This vise was a fun restore.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss #59 Coachmakers Vise. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 9" and weights 48lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss #81 open channel vise. 3-1/2" cast in jaws and weights 35lbs. Swivel releases from under the bench. Replaceable pipe jaws.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss #82, 4" Jaws that open to 6" and weights 48lbs. side open slider with raised dimple pipe jaws. This vise did not have the pipe jaws but I added a pic of model 81 pipe jaws.

 

[KMScott]

Starrett 644-1/2 Swivel Jaw. 4-1/2" jaws. need more info on this swivel jaw Starrett. This one is missing the original swivel pin.

 

[KMScott]

Rock Island ?? #101. Automatic Swivel Lock vise with no Makers markings but similar to Rock Islands Auto Swivel locks. 1-7/16 jaws opens to 2-7/8 and weights 3lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss #153 Clamp-on. 1-3/4 wide jaws that opens to 1-3/4"

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss 913 Twin Beam Swivel Jaw. 5" wide jaws that opens to 8" and weights 92 lbs. Pretty rare vise.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss Bulldog 254/264 Vise. 4" jaws no weight and max opening info.

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss 182-1/2 Combination Vise. Swivel release under the bench. 5" jaws opens to 8" and weights over 120lbs

 

[KMScott]

Prentiss 53-1/2 open screw combination swivel base vise. 3-1/2 jaws with no other spec:s.

 

[WQ59B]

Looking at a Morgan 150 (5" jaw, circa 72 lbs) for sale. Very clean, very good jaws... BUT : slide jaw was welded onto slide (both sides, right where the slide meets the jaw); vise obviously broke at one point. Current owner bought it that way without noticing the weld. Weld fillets are big, but of course I have no idea of the quality/ potential longevity of it. Can get pics tomorrow. Pointed out the weld, he's asking $50. I would likely clean it up/paint it and resell, always pointing out the weld to potential buyers.

Worth the time to mess with?

 

[KMScott]

Looking at a Morgan 150 (5" jaw, circa 72 lbs) for sale. Very clean, very good jaws... BUT : slide jaw was welded onto slide (both sides, right where the slide meets the jaw); vise obviously broke at one point. Current owner bought it that way without noticing the weld. Weld fillets are big, but of course I have no idea of the quality/ potential longevity of it. Can get pics tomorrow. Pointed out the weld, he's asking $50. I would likely clean it up/paint it and resell, always pointing out the weld to potential buyers.

Worth the time to mess with?

A welded vise on the dynamic slide area is it's death sentence. Sounds like a parts vise to me. Maybe the spindle and nut is worth $$'s to someone and if it has a swivel base then maybe you could sell that too. Post pic:s here on the main vise thread. I added a link below.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44782&page=3139

 

[va.grouseman]

WQ59B, I'd say the parts are worth $50.00.---I gave $40.00 plus shipping for a base to a #145 Star a year ago and was tickled to get it.---Plus I had to buy the lock-down mechanism separately and was happy to get all of them because Milwaukee Tool & Equipment Co. ( http://www.milwtool.com/v_swiv2.htm), wanted $250.00 for the same.---And then there is the main screw and handle.---There are some very good donor parts there.

 

[lifespeed]

Can someone recommend a good DIY-level vise? Are Yost or Wilton Taiwanese any good? I'm not sure a $500 - $700 professional machinist vise is justified for my needs; DIY automotive and home repair. But I would like to spend my $$ wisely and get something decent. I would like 4" wide jaws or thereabouts, and preferable at least 5" opening.

 

[KMScott]

Can someone recommend a good DIY-level vise? Are Yost or Wilton Taiwanese any good? I'm not sure a $500 - $700 professional machinist vise is justified for my needs; DIY automotive and home repair. But I would like to spend my $$ wisely and get something decent. I would like 4" wide jaws or thereabouts, and preferable at least 5" opening.

You can not go wrong with a Reed, A-Scale, Hollands, Morgans, Rock Islands and Chas Parker vises all 4" jaw widths as long as they are not damaged, welded and the jaws are pretty decent. The fun is finding the one that pleases your eyes and wallet without buying new.

 

[KMScott]

Chas Parker 88-1/2 Combination Vise. 4-3/4 Jaws and weights 94 lbs. Max opening is unknown.

 

[otilram]

I got a whole bunch of Record vise that needs cosmetic restorations.
What paint should I use that’s close to the original color?
Thanks!