atikovi
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06 Wrangler 4.0. T40 torx too loose, T45 won't fit. T40 fit perfect in the tensioner bolt btw. Is there a special socket bit for this?
What socket removes this pulley bolt?
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06 Wrangler 4.0. T40 torx too loose, T45 won't fit. T40 fit perfect in the tensioner bolt btw. Is there a special socket bit for this?
pistolpete1313
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Torx plus? IE, another set of tools you didn't know you needed
06 Wrangler 4.0. T40 torx too loose, T45 won't fit. T40 fit perfect in the tensioner bolt btw. Is there a special socket bit for this?
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Wamsutta
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That pulley bolt looks like a Torx Plus with the squared off splines.
KnurledNut
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That should be a Litens tensioner.
Its Torx Plus.
And be sure to grind the "staking" spots down on the backside of the bolt or you will damage the female threads removing it.
Its Torx Plus.
And be sure to grind the "staking" spots down on the backside of the bolt or you will damage the female threads removing it.
Legion Prime
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Well the Torx patent DID expire. However the new design IS improved as it can handle higher torque loads and being a perpendicular wall design rather than tapered it's a good deal less likely for the tool to slip out stripping the hardware. All in all a great improvement but yes still another set of tools to buy. LOL
fartymarty
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I think you guys need an attitude adjustment...
....you should be all like Yeah! Yayyy! Yahoo!!!..I need to buy more tools!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Drive-Belt...717745&hash=item3f4ff0c7a6:g:ngoAAOSwHShbmxyQ Made in Canada for $14. The whole tensioner is 3 times as much.
BDT/NWMN
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Once the idler pulley is off; take a look at the bearings that are pressed into it. Many of those bearings are common stock at our local hardware store, and sell for two bucks each.
Evilunclegrimace
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06 Wrangler 4.0. T40 torx too loose, T45 won't fit. T40 fit perfect in the tensioner bolt btw. Is there a special socket bit for this?
That looks like a T 500. it is common on gm vehicles, It is mostly used for seat belt bolts.
boostin20v
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get a VW, you'll use it more often
I think you guys need an attitude adjustment...
....you should be all like Yeah! Yayyy! Yahoo!!!..I need to buy more tools!
Somebody mentioned Ribe. Never heard of that before. Searched around and found this on Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DKLT58/?tag=atomicindus08-20 Damn! For 11 bucks I don't even know what they are used on but now I want it.
bwringer
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Yep, oddball fasteners are common in these; they want you to replace the whole tensioner, not just the spinnamathingy. Which makes some sense if someone's paying for labor; replace and be done.
If you're just an owner in the driveway trying to save a buck, then do what you want.
If you're just an owner in the driveway trying to save a buck, then do what you want.
BarryWells
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I'd just be at the dealer about 20 minutes before they open and the first mechanic to show :" Hey bro, take this out for me real quick please". Hand him $15 and say. Have a decent lunch. Thanks
Impact tPlus on a gun. ZZZt. Your off.
Impact tPlus on a gun. ZZZt. Your off.
Indexmill
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The Amazon listing says: Works with fasteners on Italian cars (Fiat, Alfa Romero, Ferrari) and other European makes (VW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, Opel).
paulsomlo
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Interesting - a while back, I bought a new tensioner for my 23 year old E36 series BMW. They changed that fastener from what was originally a hex to what appeared to be Torx. I used a T50 to slack off the tensioner, but I had problems with it camming out, as it takes a fair amount of force. Now I'm wondering if it wasn't Torx Plus. I ended up replacing the Torx with the hex bolt (which is LH thread) off my old tensioner.
Sounds like it. TorxPlus is a bit annoying because none of the US socket-head tool manufacturers seem to make keys or drivers for it. SK has TorxPlus bit sockets, but neither Bondhus, Elkind, Chapman, nor Wadsworth seem to have have any tools for it.
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BDT/NWMN
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dalehsc
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I'm afraid that's a plastic pulley,no getting a bearing pressed out & back into that. Replace the pulley......you may find a stamped steel pulley that you can replace the bearing in.
paulsomlo
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I think he's right - I've been down that road and found that the bearing appeared to be molded in.
bwringer
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FFS, that tensioner assembly at RockAuto ranges from $15.36 to a whopping $44.79 for a Mopar unit.
That's too cheap to spend any time dicking around with bearings.
That's too cheap to spend any time dicking around with bearings.
BDT/NWMN
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The pulley is usually replaced; especially if a belt or other parts have to be ordered anyway. But the nearest parts store is a 40 mile round trip, and Amazon orders take two or three days. If that squeaky pulley is the only issue::
I usually have these common bearings on hand, and have multiple sets of drivers, pullers, and a hydraulic press. For Me; Installing the bearings is usually a simple task that only takes a few minutes, whether the pulley is steel or plastic.
If a pulley gets destroyed trying to do this; there is no big loss.
I have sincere respect to the OP for His desire to avoid Chinese parts or bearings. The lowest cost tension assembly from Rock Auto that was mentioned would likely also fall into this category.
Well, this is what the picture of the Gates pulley showed. An NTN bearing made in Canada
What was sent had no markings on it and the box said made in Korea. I contacted Gates and they replied the bearing in that pulley is now made in China. They wrote, Gates validates our bearings to meet durability and noise standards. We only use bearings from approved suppliers. The bearing in the 38018 pulley is made by Zhejiang BH Bearing Co.,Ltd., China. I wouldn't have spent $14 on it when I can get one for $3. Should have learned my lesson about Gates the last time I bought a water pump that was made in China too.
What was sent had no markings on it and the box said made in Korea. I contacted Gates and they replied the bearing in that pulley is now made in China. They wrote, Gates validates our bearings to meet durability and noise standards. We only use bearings from approved suppliers. The bearing in the 38018 pulley is made by Zhejiang BH Bearing Co.,Ltd., China. I wouldn't have spent $14 on it when I can get one for $3. Should have learned my lesson about Gates the last time I bought a water pump that was made in China too.
BDT/NWMN
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Well, this is what the picture of the Gates pulley showed. An NTN bearing made in Canada
What was sent had no markings on it and the box said made in Korea. I contacted Gates and they replied the bearing in that pulley is now made in China. They wrote, Gates validates our bearings to meet durability and noise standards. We only use bearings from approved suppliers. The bearing in the 38018 pulley is made by Zhejiang BH Bearing Co.,Ltd., China. I wouldn't have spent $14 on it when I can get one for $3. Should have learned my lesson about Gates the last time I bought a water pump that was made in China too.
I looked at the picture of that pulley when You first posted the link; and I gave a smile and a thumbs up when I read the Canadian markings. Gates can claim this or that;;; but what You received is clearly not what is pictured.. I would be disappointed also. I used to look at Gates as a respected company. I also noticed the China label on the last Gates water pump I bought. If they are going to operate a "white box operation" it is unlikely I will be spending extra for the Gates "name".
Wrench97
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Makes sense Jeep + Fiat = Italian car
Legion Prime
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Well when Fiat is the majority shareholder in Chrysler . . . LOL
metaldad
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Yeah buts it’s the principle of it
I worked on my brothers E46, and remember the tensioner being really difficult as well if that makes you feel any better lol