Wilton 835 another electrolysis vise resto

[06wt]

its a 1946 wilton 835, got it for $30 ill have pics up in a few and ill start the electrolysis tonite and have more pics in the morning

 

[Bull]

Did you post what your electrolysis setup looks like in the other thread?

 

[06wt]

best pic i could get of the production date 8-46

 

[06wt]

Did you post what your electrolysis setup looks like in the other thread?

no i will include pics of it this time around,

i remember about a month ago i was looking for a vise for home since i took mine to the shop,
now i have 2 wiltons and a morgan to choose from

 

[porphyre]

I read your other thread but didn't see a couple topics touched on: Paint and grease.

1) How does electrolysis handle paint - either old, chipping, and degraded - or light overspray? Does the paint have to be removed?
2) How does electrolysis handle 80 year old grease? Do the parts need to be 100% grease, grime, oil free. Or maybe only 50% or 75%?

Thanks! From your first thread, I'm really thinking about electrolysis for my old Reed.

 

[mjozefow]

I read your other thread but didn't see a couple topics touched on: Paint and grease.

1) How does electrolysis handle paint - either old, chipping, and degraded - or light overspray? Does the paint have to be removed?
2) How does electrolysis handle 80 year old grease? Do the parts need to be 100% grease, grime, oil free. Or maybe only 50% or 75%?

Thanks! From your first thread, I'm really thinking about electrolysis for my old Reed.

Electrolysis is great if you need the gentle touch. Sand blasting does a good job if you are going to paint though. The surface needs to be pretty clean. Paint is ok, usually if the paint will stand the soaking it is not rusted there anyway.

I have done both, and for most stuff I think sandblasting is fine. If I'm reselling I usually blast em.

It seems clear that 06wt is the kind of guy to put in that little bit of extra effort.

Oh, and great job again! I'm sure this one will look every bit as good as that Morgan! Paint this time?

 

[06wt]

I read your other thread but didn't see a couple topics touched on: Paint and grease.

1) How does electrolysis handle paint - either old, chipping, and degraded - or light overspray? Does the paint have to be removed?
2) How does electrolysis handle 80 year old grease? Do the parts need to be 100% grease, grime, oil free. Or maybe only 50% or 75%?

Thanks! From your first thread, I'm really thinking about electrolysis for my old Reed.

it will work faster if you pre clean the parts, u dont have to, but it helps. the part to be cleaned dosnt have to be perfectly clean or de greased. but i always wire wheel them and de grease them first the best i can.

but if u put a greasy painted part in an electrolysis bath for long enough it will take everything off

 

[06wt]

thanks mjozefow
no it was on cl this morning, caught it 15 minuets after it was posted. $30 was his asking price, i didnt even try and "certain religion" him down, $30 was a good enough price

as for its coating i havent decided yet

 

[red92s]

1) How does electrolysis handle paint - either old, chipping, and degraded - or light overspray? Does the paint have to be removed?

If there is any rust under the paint, it will usually lift it off in large sections. It just gets under there and attacks the rust and dislodges the paint. I was amazed how the paint pretty much wiped off a set of brake dust shields I did.

 

[mjozefow]

thanks mjozefow
no it was on cl this morning, caught it 15 minuets after it was posted. $30 was his asking price, i didnt even try and "certain religion" him down, $30 was a good enough price

as for its coating i havent decided yet

Awesome deal! I think a Wilton needs an electrolysis resto though due to the finely machined "barrel". Other vises are just ground, so it doesn't seem to matter as much. I try not to blast anything that moves anyway as a general rule.

There is a Wilton in the VISES of GJ that looks really sharp in Red and white.

Evintho's Wilton:

 

[porphyre]

Thanks for the replies, guys. There's some surface rust up inside the sliding jaw that I want to clean up. I don't think I'll be painting - this guy has a really nice patina.

 

[06wt]

well if i do paint it i think im going to keep it original, its like a hammered olive green

 

[BanjoSavesTheDay]

i didnt even try and "certain religion" him down,

lol It's good to see that your politically correct training classes have been a positive influence on you.

Nice vise, can't wait to see how it looks when you're done! Vise restoration threads are my favorite.

 

[arkangel06]

Waiting for more pics!

 

[06wt]

you asked for more pics and here they r
dynamic jaw b4 cleaning

all parts after being washed with water and degreaser

 

[06wt]

dynamic jaw after wire wheel

static jaw after wire wheel

T screw after wire wheel

 

[06wt]

static jaw preped for electrolysis, i use lead bailing wire to wire the cathode/work

heres the bucket im using with sheet metal as the anode

heres the power supply on the bucket

 

[06wt]

heres a pic of the work b4 i turn on the power supply, and 2 pics a few seconds after i turn the power on

 

[06wt]

and heres the t screw

 

[arkangel06]

Looks awesome so far!

 

[BanjoSavesTheDay]

Sheet metal---now that is interesting. I've only ever used rebar. Have you used both? The problem with rebar is that it gets gunked up relatively quickly and is also a pain to clean off multiple times. On something that's still pretty rusty even after the wire wheel, approximately how long can you go without cleaning off the sheet metal?

I like your setup a lot.

 

[06wt]

heres a video

 

[06wt]

Sheet metal---now that is interesting. I've only ever used rebar. Have you used both? The problem with rebar is that it gets gunked up relatively quickly and is also a pain to clean off multiple times. On something that's still pretty rusty even after the wire wheel, approximately how long can you go without cleaning off the sheet metal?

I like your setup a lot.

i use stainless sheet metal, im my other thread i explain how to use stainless as an anode, i havent had to clean it off yet its just a little brown

 

[06wt]

heres the t screw out of the electrolysis un touched

after wire wheel

 

[06wt]

static jaw un touched

after wire wheel

 

[06wt]

teaser

 

[06wt]

finished

 

[06wt]

b4 and after

 

[porphyre]

That's fantastic, man. You really take it to the next level!

I love how it looks after you wired it off from the electrolysis. If you were going to leave it at that finish (instead of painting) how would you protect it against rust? Just soak it in clean 90w for a day and call it good?

 

[06wt]

That's fantastic, man. You really take it to the next level!

I love how it looks after you wired it off from the electrolysis. If you were going to leave it at that finish (instead of painting) how would you protect it against rust? Just soak it in clean 90w for a day and call it good?

Check out my other thread, where I restored a morgan and left it natural steel finish, I use gun blue(its like stain for steel) and the just rub it down with gun oil/air tool oil

 

[06wt]

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61442
heres the link to the other thread

 

[jvitez]

You have two awesome threads. Thank you very much for taking the time to photograph and post the pictures!

I love the gun blue idea. I never would have thought of that. I try and learn one new fact a day. An hour on GJ and I'm set for the week.

 

[06wt]

thanks jvitez
i like gun blue too, i got the gun blue kit to re blue an old rifle and it came out nice so i went back to the gun store and got another tube of the bluing stain and started experimenting bluing different items

 

[Scout Driver]

That vice turned out great! Nice work.

Scott

 

[larry4406]

Nice - give some details on the power supply please.

 

[red92s]

Nice - give some details on the power supply please.

A automotive battery charger works fine

 

[Flathead Youngin']

very cool.......yeah, power supply info would be great!

 

[porphyre]

The gun bluing looks great. I think that'll go on my to-do list.

 

[chrislehr]

Friggin awesome work

 

[mjozefow]

Nice work, it looks great!