Woodworking 101--Tools and Tips

[ez-duzit]

I'd glue the whole thing.

 

[ScottsGT]

Started and finished a Sargent 5307 low angle? Block plane today. Started in pretty decent shape. Apparently when you sharpen with 2500 grit you get a mirror shine. Whoduthunk. Time to sharpen the other blades to match now.

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I've been eyeing a small plane like this for some time. There is a Lie Nielsen on my local CL for $90 but the guy won't email me back. He didn't post a phone number either. I did tell him I'll take it, no haggling the price either.

 

[rrich1]

I've been eyeing a small plane like this for some time. There is a Lie Nielsen on my local CL for $90 but the guy won't email me back. He didn't post a phone number either. I did tell him I'll take it, no haggling the price either.

id snag that up to without haggling. hopefully he gets back to you.

do you have the powertec castors? they look nice. they are just sitting in the box for right now until i can get the vise screw from the father in law. keeping me from getting my truck back in the garage.

 

[ScottsGT]

id snag that up to without haggling. hopefully he gets back to you.

do you have the powertec castors? they look nice. they are just sitting in the box for right now until i can get the vise screw from the father in law. keeping me from getting my truck back in the garage.

Yes, got them off Amazon for my woodworking bench I built. Also put levelers on the other side of the legs just in case my floor has a low spot where I need it.

 

[ADNICK]

Rich:

That block plane is a keeper, nice.

Zach:
There is always a little more pride when hand made, and you can be very proud of those....

Andy

 

[jimreed2160]

DW--I would glue the sides and let the bottom float. Wood moves with moisture and your tote may be stored in humid spots, like a garage.

 

[cheechi]

Hey guys,

I'm making a "sparky tote" for myself, see pics

Firstly, I like it.

Second, what's keeping the pipe handle in place? Without knowing your plans I'd go with cotter pins if you only work with limited kinds of wire and don't need to change reels often or D pins if you do change them often.

Third, get hard rubber feet for both the bottom and one of the sides. Never know when you need to stand it up tall to unreel. Don't want it following you like a lost puppy.

My basement speakers are wired with solid 12ga that I got for cheaper than stranded speaker wire, and this could have come in reel helpful when I did the runs for 6 speakers.

 

[Shiftless]

Speaking of block planes, here is an oldie that I picked up from the FREE box at a garage sale last weekend.
With the excellent research of CRSINMICH I found out that this plane is among the very earliest of Craftsman tools. Any C'man experts here want to chime in about a range of dates that this tool might have been manufactured?

sole plate is 6 3/8 inches by 2 inches

The iron is 1 5/8 inches wide

Here is a pic of the plane itself... the next post is a close up of the logo.

 

[Shiftless]

Close up of the wavy Craftsman logo on the iron.

 

[CRSINMICH]

While trying to help find out who manufactured Shiftless' block plane, I discovered that I had one that was nearly a twin to it. It was an impulse buy a year or so ago. I found a site that said that planes with BL were made for Craftsman by Sargent. You can see similarities to some of the components of the Sargent block plane that rrich posted. Shift's wavy "CRAFTSMAN" logo was the first one that Craftsman used. I still haven't found out when mine was made but the font used in the logo is distinctive. It looks very similar to one of the first Long - C logos except that it doesn't have a long C. That would date it to around 1935. I'll keep looking.

 

[jfranci3]

Working with long, thin wood... trim

I'm retrimming my house, and I can't find well priced baseboard with a profile I like. I was thinking about routing it myself. I have a table saw, router, and router table. What are some clamps and techniques I can use to get a nice even bevel in pine or MDF.

 

[drivesitfar]

Jfranc: i don't have the solution to your clamping or routering, but i want to remind you to make sure to wear a good face mask if you are cutting or routering MDF cause that stuff is NASTY and terrible for anybody's health.

I'm pretty sure Jim has showed many many options of making trim with just planes, but i know all of us don't have nearly the selection of planes he does.

good luck

 

[jimreed2160]

JF--Making trim should be easy if you keep it simple. As you know, the long stuff can be difficult to handle. If all you need is a simple chamfer in MDF, then I would use the table saw with some roller stands. Or you could use the router table but that would take several passes.

I would chamfer the edge and then put a groove below it--about an inch below the edge. Two shallow passes on the TS could give you a 3/16" wide by 1/8" deep groove.

 

[Woody610nb]

First, MDF doesn't work well for base. The corners get hit with shoes and vacuums and will chip easily. With all the base moldings, it's hard to believe you can't find something. Most base is a 1 x 4, 6, 8, or 10 with a base cap on top. If your looking for simple you can leave the cap off and just go square edge. Why go through all the trouble to reinvent something.

 

[jimreed2160]

So waaay back in the 1970s, when I was a pup and was raising a family, I splurged on this CM block plane. It was the first (of many) purchased planes for me.

It is a nice plane, even though it has lots of stamped parts.

The blade has a more recent CM logo.

It sits on my user shelf and is called into action frequently.

 

[CRSINMICH]

jim: Craftsman planes with DD on them were made by Stanley. Here's a link to the site called Craftsman Plane Model Number Comparison in case anyone is interested. Scroll down the page until you get to the chart.
http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/26/craftsman-hand-plane-model-number-comparison/

 

[rrich1]

CRSINMICH: You beat me to it on the link. It's a fantastic website with a bunch of information.

Everybody: how do you store your sandpaper and Sanders? Thinking of making some type of open faced cabinet. Would like to house regular sand paper, able to hold 5" and 6" round pads for orbital sander, and at least two Sanders.

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[ScottsGT]

I have all my sandpaper in one of those 4 drawer small parts organizers provided by hardware suppliers. Pulled out the small compartment tray. It's kind of disorganized, but I have file folders for different grits. I stack my 5" round DA discs on top of them.

 

[Shiftless]

rrich1:
Right now, all my sandpaper is in a shallow drawer under my workbench. It is about 16 inches wide and 24 deep.
It's a mess. Sandpaper curls up. Sanding sponge blocks get mixed up with small wire brushes and hard rubber sanding blocks.
I wish I had room for a 2 drawer filing cabinet to keep various grits in separate file folders. I think that would be just about the best solution.

 

[dwasifar]

Firstly, I like it.

Thanks.

Second, what's keeping the pipe handle in place? Without knowing your plans I'd go with cotter pins if you only work with limited kinds of wire and don't need to change reels often or D pins if you do change them often.

Actually it's held on by modified conduit fittings:

I simply loosen the screw and pull it off to remove the handle.

That used to be a conduit-to-flex clamp connector:

I just sawed the clamp side off and smoothed it out on a grinder.

Third, get hard rubber feet for both the bottom and one of the sides. Never know when you need to stand it up tall to unreel. Don't want it following you like a lost puppy.

My basement speakers are wired with solid 12ga that I got for cheaper than stranded speaker wire, and this could have come in reel helpful when I did the runs for 6 speakers.

I've actually done that with 12ga wire too.

 

[Bigmichaelkim]

Hi yall, I am a new woodworker looking to use hand tools exclusively. I picked up this Stanley no 4 from an estate sale for 20 dollars and have cleaned it up through vinegar to remove some rust. I have posted a picture of the current state of affairs but while cleaning it up I seemed to notice what looked like a weld on the side? Will this effect the general usability of the plane?


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[rrich1]

Bigmichael: as long as the sole is flat I don't see it being an issue.

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[Craptain]

What a disappointment. It could, and if it was not done well it most certainly will affect usability. The only way to be sure is to hone the base and see if it is flat. If it's flat you are in with a chance. Despite what some people say, it does not have to be perfect, but it should be fairly good. Start honing on sandpaper on a flat surface and take a look at the developing pattern. Hollows and bumps will stand out. If you are not sure, having got this far, just sharpen up the blade, reassemble it and give it a test run. Read through the thread for instructions on how to set it up. Meanwhile stay alert for one in better shape.

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[jimreed2160]

bigmike--Yes to all that Craptain said. These type 11s did have casting weaknesses. Maybe they got some poor handling during manufacture. I just worked on two #3 type 11 Baileys and BOTH of them had cracks in the cheek. Mine looked less severe than yours.

Otherwise that plane looks like it is in pretty good shape. Sharpen up the blade and give her a spin. You might be surprised by the performance. Good luck.

 

[Shiftless]

That damage isn't NEARLY as bad as this number 6 suffered some time in the past.
I picked it up at a garage sale where it had been tossed into a battered up old pickup full of junk. I noticed the truck parked at the curb at a yard sale and walked over to check it out, found the plane, noticed the damage and offered $5 figuring somebody might need it for parts or even try to use it as-is or maybe for display. Other side looks great!
Seems to be useable, not bent...all the parts are there. Rosewood handles are in pretty good shape. No chips on the cutting edge.

 

[Ainsley]

Made this table for my boss. 3' square and its all solid ash. he's going to top it with a 5.5' suare piece of 3/4" glass.
All braces have threaded rod through them, its a SOLID table.

Since I finished that table I've been working on a small trellis for my wife to grow hops up. I'm trying to do it without any screws, all tenon jointery pinned with brass.

 

[ez-duzit]

Ai--you'll need something to keep the trellis from wracking.

 

[jimreed2160]

Shif--That #6 is a great tote donor. Good save.

Ainsley--Good projects. Thanks for the pictures.

 

[ez-duzit]

...Seems to be useable, not bent...

Usable? There is a huge chunk completely missing! I really don't understand seeing this as anything but a parts donor. Surely no one would consider using a tool in this condition.

 

[dwasifar]

Since I finished that table I've been working on a small trellis for my wife to grow hops up. I'm trying to do it without any screws, all tenon jointery pinned with brass.

That is a thing of beauty right there. Really nice work.

How did you cut the decorative curves? Bandsaw? I know if I tried to cut a curve like that in 4" stock I'd be seeing blade deflection all over the cut.

 

[drivesitfar]

Ainsley: great looking HONEY DO project for your wife (and you) with that cool trellis.

 

[dwasifar]

Ai--you'll need something to keep the trellis from wracking.

Looks to me like he's got the legs set in concrete.

 

[R_einan]

Little project for today:

Wife wanted a new bedroom set for the guest room, and it turned out a little on the tall side. So I'm working on a step stool for my mother in law when she comes to visit. Just some inexpensive red oak, top is a glue up from the 3 1/2" boards I bought for the rest. It's turning out pretty decent so far. Joints aren't as perfect as I was shooting for, but it's kind of a rush job.

 

[R_einan]

Before bed update: sanded, stained, and first coats of shellac applied. Sprayed the legs, padded the top with a 1# amber cut mixed from zissners.

On another note, check out what my father in law made for me from an old file and piece of deer antler. Works awesome and leaves nice clean cut line.

 

[ScottsGT]

I see you have to share your workspace with a classic Mustang too.

 

[jimreed2160]

R--It is really nice to go out into the shop and knock off a quick utility project. Good job. FIL did a nice job on the striking knife, too.

 

[dwasifar]

I see you have to share your workspace with a classic Mustang too.

I thought that was a Camaro.

 

[R_einan]

I see you have to share your workspace with a classic Mustang too.

I thought that was a Camaro.

You are both correct

 

[CRSINMICH]

ANYONE: Have any of you seen one of these doohickies? jim, you probably have a drawer full them. It's an angle boring attachment for a brace bit that I found in the rafters at an estate sale. I found a picture of one in a 1904 Millers Falls catalog. It turns out that I paid the 1904 price for it too.

 

[R_einan]

Glued it up with my morning coffee, turned out decent. Have a few runs in the sprayed shellac that I will have to spirit off with a pad and DNA when we get home from our weekend.