WTF Snap-on ?

[Dohcness]

 

[86k10]

I got mine about a week ago. I am extremely disappointed with a few things but, none the less, I am overall satisfied. I am disgusted by the box I received. It is missing more paint than the pictures you have posted. It simply looks like an over spray type job. All my SO dealer can tell me are my expectations are to high and the best he can do for me is free touch up paint. I obviously expected that it would not come with the "advertised" SO lid sticker since you posted that you added it in another thread. The cart only has 2 swivel casters and is difficult to move around my tight spaced shop. It comes with all the liner for every drawer except the screwdriver/pry bar locking storage. I can not believe how flimsy the drawers feel by the way, And they usually get stuck half way out of the slides. This is the only box you can find like this on the market but snap-on obviously loves to cheap out when they can.

I just got the same cart and I am disappointed in it. Feels real cheap. Thankfully I only paid $800 for it. I have it on CL trying to trade it for a 36" KRL top box or side locker. I had sold my side locker to pay for it and regret it.

 

[Trbobuick]

I got mine about a week ago. I am extremely disappointed with a few things but, none the less, I am overall satisfied. I am disgusted by the box I received. It is missing more paint than the pictures you have posted. It simply looks like an over spray type job. All my SO dealer can tell me are my expectations are to high and the best he can do for me is free touch up paint. I obviously expected that it would not come with the "advertised" SO lid sticker since you posted that you added it in another thread. The cart only has 2 swivel casters and is difficult to move around my tight spaced shop. It comes with all the liner for every drawer except the screwdriver/pry bar locking storage. I can not believe how flimsy the drawers feel by the way, And they usually get stuck half way out of the slides. This is the only box you can find like this on the market but snap-on obviously loves to cheap out when they can.

The drawers do flex more than a classic or an epiq box , but the bang for the buck factor sold me. I could pay twice as much for the same storage and some stiffer drawers , but why ? You made a good choice.

You can buy the other two swivel casters , but i found it is safer to move around the planes with my side cab attached.

As far as the paint ,dont give up ! Ask to speak with the district rep If your driver is being difficult. Pm me if he wont give you the name.

 

[Felix1]

Dam you are scaring me, i got a krsc416 too in green and i am just about to remove all my drawer to check this out haha

 

[DoubleA]

I guess I don't get it. As long as that's not bare metal I don't see a problem. I didnt know so had a guarantee that every square inch of box inside and out is powdercoated the same. Having owned both kra and krl's I've noticed how much nicer of a finish the krl's have.

 

[kythri]

Invisible coating is not Snap-on's claimed primary protection against rust. Paint is. And paint everywhere, including where you can't see/where the competition supposedly doesn't paint (as opposed to Snap-on's claim of doing so).

That'd be my issue.

Of course, that video was made in 2008. It's been 5 or 6 years, so maybe they've lowered their paint/finish standards and QA.

 

[toolstools]

Excuse my reply, but you guys are INSANE. If i pay 5k for a freggin tool box, that thing better do some of the work FOR me and be PERFECT any where and EVERY where. For 5k im buying a damned nice vehicle, not some hunk of metal. Sorry, but if u let this slide, epic fail. Even spending 1k on a need craftsman box, it better be spotless and perfect with coating everywhere. :rant off:

 

[Steinmetz]

It's my view that $5,000 is an acceptable price for a tool box as long as you can live in it, too.

 

[Hiball]

Obviously.. To each there own, but until someone show me one that is rusting inside where its not painted and is only coated. It really doesn't bother me that much.. Of course that easy for me to say because first off its not my box, secondly I wouldn't buy a New one anyway.


I wonder if my New Ford truck is painted on the backside of the body panels?


Of course not...

 

[Trbobuick]

Actually the sheet metal on your ford is protected. Most of the automotive sheet metal is e-coated. Snap on boxes are not. It is bare metal that i had to apply a rust inhibitor on. I can show you pictures of unpainted and rusted boxes.
It was a simple case of false advertising. They claimed in 2008 that their boxes were painted over every square inch , and they still do. For the premium price that they charge , they can spare the extra 5 bucks in paint.

 

[b1ghwx]

LOL... should have bought the HF box and saved more than a grand!

Too funny

 

[Trbobuick]

Why , so I can be an unamerican traitor ? Go troll somewhere else.

 

[Hiball]

Actually the sheet metal on your ford is protected. Most of the automotive sheet metal is e-coated. Snap on boxes are not. It is bare metal that i had to apply a rust inhibitor on. I can show you pictures of unpainted and rusted boxes.
It was a simple case of false advertising. They claimed in 2008 that their boxes were painted over every square inch , and they still do. For the premium price that they charge , they can spare the extra 5 bucks in paint.

Protected? Yes I have no doubt, but are you suggesting there is "No" coating or priming done to those snap on toolboxes prior to them being painted?

I'd be interested in some pictures showing rust..

 

[mopar01]

Excuse my reply, but you guys are INSANE. If i pay 5k for a freggin tool box, that thing better do some of the work FOR me and be PERFECT any where and EVERY where. For 5k im buying a damned nice vehicle, not some hunk of metal. Sorry, but if u let this slide, epic fail. Even spending 1k on a need craftsman box, it better be spotless and perfect with coating everywhere. :rant off:

Its pretty obvious you don't turn a wrench for a living. A box is a safe for our tools. To the OP, I'm glad your dealer treated you like he did. Our old snap on guy was horrible.

 

[BlindViper]

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects/7800/1684_Heritage_web.pdf
• Tough, nine-step
pre-paint process

Lifetime Warranty – because we make these boxes better,
we back them better – with lifetime warranty on both
materials and workmanship.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects/7800/1265v6mastersstorage.pdf
Our “Pre-Treat” process and unsurpassed powder-coat paint system allows us to provide a finish in a wide variety of custom colors

looks like it needs to go back. In the pdf they are clearly dipping it but it could be a cleaning dip.

 

[Boiler]

I'd take the $600. Unexposed areas, which look to be zinc coated , and even if not, will not rust out unless kept in salt moist air or in a barn or something. Most Barr metal in a shop environment will just get a petina. And if coated under topcoat will not change.

Only primer where I can't see on a toolbox? I'd take it for 25+% off every day.

 

[Trbobuick]

Protected? Yes I have no doubt, but are you suggesting there is "No" coating or priming done to those snap on toolboxes prior to them being painted?

I'd be interested in some pictures showing rust..

We paint aircraft here at work and before I even spoke to my snap on driver i had 2 of the painters look at it. The owner ( been painting for 50 years ) said " if its coated , that's a new completely clear coating that I don't know about."
Any metal that is not found in its useful state naturally tries to return to its natural state when exposed to the elements. Iron to iron oxide , aluminum to aluminum oxide/buaxite. Unpainted = return to nature.

 

[Hiball]

We paint aircraft here at work and before I even spoke to my snap on driver i had 2 of the painters look at it. The owner ( been painting for 50 years ) said " if its coated , that's a new completely clear coating that I don't know about."
Any metal that is not found in its useful state naturally tries to return to its natural state when exposed to the elements. Iron to iron oxide , aluminum to aluminum oxide/buaxite. Unpainted = return to nature.

As I stated earlier in this thread, it sounds like you came out alright or "satisfied" and that's really all that matters. My gut tells me that there is some sort of coating, why they just don't do a complete paint coverage baffles me. As I stated, I've never bought a New snappy box/roller but my 70's stuff is solid as they come.

 

[toolstools]

Its pretty obvious you don't turn a wrench for a living. A box is a safe for our tools. To the OP, I'm glad your dealer treated you like he did. Our old snap on guy was horrible.

You know what, you're absolutely right. But, in the same since a holy doesnt know what brand socket you're using, s tool tools don't know what brand the toll box they live in is. Saying a toll box is a safe for tools is absurd. A snap on box is just as easy to break in to as a stanley box. If i had the money to buy a 5k box, i wouldnt have to worry about the need to ave the box to begin with. Id pay someone else to do the work FOR me. I know a very well known guy that basically runs the garage he works in. His craftsman box is still holding in like day one, 15+ years later. Can he buy a snap on box? Oh ya, he could buy the freggin truck easy enough. But has the common sence NOT to. no offence to the op, but i think buying a snap on box for the price of a used vehicle is like buying gold plated **** paper, pretty and useless.

 

[kythri]

I wonder if my New Ford truck is painted on the backside of the body panels?

Of course not...

I couldn't speak for YOUR new Ford truck, but of my old Ford F-250s, my Ford Explorer and my new Ford Crown Victoria (and the one it replaced) are all painted on covered body panels, backs of fenders, inside the doors under the trim panels, etc.

They're definitely not shiny clear-coat or anything, but they're certainly not bare metal, nor are they some clear protective finish over that bare metal. They're body color.

I wouldn't imagine that this is something unique to my Fords, or Ford in general.

I have yet to find bare metal on the body.

 

[Hiball]

I couldn't speak for YOUR new Ford truck, but of my old Ford F-250s, my Ford Explorer and my new Ford Crown Victoria (and the one it replaced) are all painted on covered body panels, backs of fenders, inside the doors under the trim panels, etc.

They're definitely not shiny clear-coat or anything, but they're certainly not bare metal, nor are they some clear protective finish over that bare metal. They're body color.

I wouldn't imagine that this is something unique to my Fords, or Ford in general.

I have yet to find bare metal on the body.

Yes.. I was being sarcastic to a point, its obvious that they wouldn't be bare metal nor are they finish coated and clear coated.

 

[Trbobuick]

You know what, you're absolutely right. But, in the same since a holy doesnt know what brand socket you're using, s tool tools don't know what brand the toll box they live in is. Saying a toll box is a safe for tools is absurd. A snap on box is just as easy to break in to as a stanley box. If i had the money to buy a 5k box, i wouldnt have to worry about the need to ave the box to begin with. Id pay someone else to do the work FOR me. I know a very well known guy that basically runs the garage he works in. His craftsman box is still holding in like day one, 15+ years later. Can he buy a snap on box? Oh ya, he could buy the freggin truck easy enough. But has the common sence NOT to. no offence to the op, but i think buying a snap on box for the price of a used vehicle is like buying gold plated **** paper, pretty and useless.

As a mechanic all I can say is ; if we have to explain it to you , you will never understand.
Plus your a buckeye... Nuff said

 

[toolstools]

As a mechanic all I can say is ; if we have to explain it to you , you will never understand.
Plus your a buckeye... Nuff said

Now uve done it! I may live in ohio, but in sure no buckeye. I hate anything scalet and grey. Ill never understand as i see my friend using his 15 year old craftsman box with no complaints. I know if i did wrench 40 hours a week, i STILL wouldnt buy a snap on box. Remember Mr. BIG? 27k. Buff said

 

[dirtydogintex]

Are the boxes made of galvanized/aluminized/something similar steel
rather than plain ol' black?


Wonder why
when the subject of tool truck sales strategies even remotely surfaces
my internal recorder starts playing a tune from 'Easy Rider' the movie?

 

[STANIMAL]

Next time , Harbor Freight .

 

[pilotman81]

Everyone has their preference on brands. I would suggest that if you are unhappy with the box you received then simply try to work something out with your dealer to exchange/return it or obtain some credit/discount on the box or something else to smooth your tail feathers. If those options don't do anything for you then I guess I would consider another dealer or brand.

 

[Hiball]

Everyone has their preference on brands. I would suggest that if you are unhappy with the box you received then simply try to work something out with your dealer to exchange/return it or obtain some credit/discount on the box or something else to smooth your tail feathers. If those options don't do anything for you then I guess I would consider another dealer or brand.

Psst.. Read post #29

 

[vwsaabvt]

Now uve done it! I may live in ohio, but in sure no buckeye. I hate anything scalet and grey. Ill never understand as i see my friend using his 15 year old craftsman box with no complaints. I know if i did wrench 40 hours a week, i STILL wouldnt buy a snap on box. Remember Mr. BIG? 27k. Buff said

I suggest spell checking your posts before you make yourself look even dumber.

 

[toolstools]

I suggest spell checking your posts before you make yourself look even dumber.

That's the best you can ad ttp this thread? Its a creaking phone, spelling is easy to mess up my mis pressing a letter. "I can take the time and make sure every last word is spelled just right,orIginates could just let be what will be. Which is a betters reflection of who I am" hapy? Didnt tink so. Lol

 

[Hiball]

That's the best you can ad ttp this thread? Its a creaking phone, spelling is easy to mess up my mis pressing a letter. "I can take the time and make sure every last word is spelled just right,orIginates could just let be what will be. Which is a betters reflection of who I am" hapy? Didnt tink so. Lol

Lol... I think you just made it worse.

 

[toolstools]

Lol... I think you just made it worse.

I dont buy snap on, im not perfect. Lol

 

[Hiball]

I dont buy snap on, im not perfect. Lol

Ok..

 

[petty4243]

Yes up in Algona Iowa. When I was a die setter at my last job working in the pressroom I worked for a guy who used to be a manager in their press and brake room up there. Ive heard lots of good and bad from him. He also had mentioned the Kobalt boxes are built there.

hangs head low... 18 miles from my front door... know a lot of the people that work there

 

[Heavy Metal Doctor]

. We had to move our boxes from hoist to hoist and 20 or so guys had HF tool boxes that they brought from home. After just four months most of the HF boxes were battle damaged in some way. One guys whole side split right at the welds and all of his tools and drawers came out like a chrome filled pinata . Broken welds, rippled sheet metal, bowed drawer bottoms, seams that were opening up from corner to corner flexing , broken drawer rails, ect. Not good stuff. Everybody that had a truck box: no change. Unless they changed the construction of the HF boxes since last winter , its just not designed for every day professional use.

As a mechanic all I can say is ; if we have to explain it to you , you will never understand.

The way I see it, you could split GJ right down the middle on that second quote -- 'cause that half will never see the situation in the first quote and therefore never see any reason to spend money for truck-brand stuff.

 

[Man of Many Vices]

My SO guy worked on the district manager and i received a 600.00 credit off of my bill. But having an affliction , i turned right around and bought 600.00 worth of stuff. .

That's how casinos work.

 

[rhastings80]

It still doesn't make sense to me why these truck boxes cost so much. Lista's and Vidmar's don't cost nearly as much and I bet there is more raw material cost in them.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

It still doesn't make sense to me why these truck boxes cost so much. Lista's and Vidmar's don't cost nearly as much and I bet there is more raw material cost in them.

Because they are built good and supported for life by a driver/franchisee & company.

Lista/Vidmar, they ship to you and your on your own. IMO I feel the Truck boxes are priced ok and the Lista/Vidmar boxes are the ones overpriced for what your getting. Nevermind the resale value.
If I pay that kind of money for a cabinet (Lista), I for damn sure want something a little more heavy duty then plastic slides.

 

[Heavy Metal Doctor]

Because they are built good and supported for life by a driver/franchisee & company.

Lista/Vidmar, they ship to you and your on your own. IMO I feel the Truck boxes are priced ok and the Lista/Vidmar boxes are the ones overpriced for what your getting. Nevermind the resale value.
If I pay that kind of money for a cabinet (Lista), I for damn sure want something a little more heavy duty then plastic slides.

Right. I know those products are great and I'd love to bring Lista / Vidmar stuff into my realm of consideration....Let me know when their dealer will stop by my shop to discuss a trade in value of my existing box show me something in person.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

Right. I know those products are great and I'd love to bring Lista / Vidmar stuff into my realm of consideration....Let me know when their dealer will stop by my shop to discuss a trade in value of my existing box show me something in person.

Well...Vidmar cabinets can be had in MAC Red, Blue or Black from your local friendly MAC Tool guy.
I was gonna investigate it further with my MAC Guy, but I think a Macsimizer is more for me...

Not only should they swing by and discuss trades and configurations prior to the sale, they should also swing by periodically after the sale to make sure all is well...if any slides are wearing down, be happy to replace them for free....if you got a wobbly caster...same deal. or if a weld breaks on a drawer...replace the drawer.

 

[Heavy Metal Doctor]

Well...Vidmar cabinets can be had in MAC Red, Blue or Black from your local friendly MAC Tool guy.
I was gonna investigate it further with my MAC Guy, but I think a Macsimizer is more for me...

I can't even tell you the last time a MAC dealer drove down the street. There might be one around, but I don't know about him.....