skeer
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Teaser pics
Yet another thing being refurbished
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Shiftless
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I remember those old fluorescent lamps with the starter button you had to press for a few seconds and then release to get the bulb to light up. Cool project!
Yup, it’s a Dazor P-2134 I think. I can’t find a single pic online of this base though. Tore it all down Saturday, ripped out all the old fabric wrapped wiring, and did not snap a single screw. The base steel parts are soaking in the derusting bucket but all the cast parts have been repainted the original chocolate brown.
I thought the switch was a goner but after drilling out the two rivets the insides were just fine. The two buttons needed some touching up as they were stuck in the top plate.
Going to run leds in this guy.
I thought the switch was a goner but after drilling out the two rivets the insides were just fine. The two buttons needed some touching up as they were stuck in the top plate.
Going to run leds in this guy.
nadogail
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Very nice lamp, the LED'S will make it up to date,
Shiftless
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I’m not familiar with the wiring on those, but to run LEDs I think you’ll need a different switch.
You could leave the original 2 button switch for looks and put a simple on off rocker switch down on the base.
You could leave the original 2 button switch for looks and put a simple on off rocker switch down on the base.
Adaylate
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The tombstones in mine were quite brittle. Super glue was my friend. Some new wiring a two new tubes and it was 1950 again.
good luck with your project!
good luck with your project!
Gfdi. The lamps trash now. I think when I was trying to lower the support rod in order to pin it down to get enough space to reassemble that first elbow.. the large tabs flexed just enough for the spring brace piece to become dislodged.
FML. Now I lack the equipment or the means to retention the spring. Talk about dashed hopes.
FML. Now I lack the equipment or the means to retention the spring. Talk about dashed hopes.
Shiftless
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Please accept my condolences on your situation.
I suppose now you have 2 choices… Store those nicely repainted parts in the hope that you or a buddy can figure out a fix sometime in the future... or pitch the whole thing and move on to something else and try to forget about that Dazor. If that’s the worst mistake you’ve ever made in the vintage restoration game, consider yourself lucky.
I suppose now you have 2 choices… Store those nicely repainted parts in the hope that you or a buddy can figure out a fix sometime in the future... or pitch the whole thing and move on to something else and try to forget about that Dazor. If that’s the worst mistake you’ve ever made in the vintage restoration game, consider yourself lucky.
I'm sure someone has fixed this before?
I contacted Dazor;
Unfortunately, the parts needed to repair/rewind the spring are no longer available.
Sorry we could not help.
Thank you,
Dazor Lighting Technology
I contacted Dazor;
Unfortunately, the parts needed to repair/rewind the spring are no longer available.
Sorry we could not help.
Thank you,
Dazor Lighting Technology
So, the hangy down part with the inward curved piece was braced against a rod with flattened ends that fit in those notched parts. That’s what gives the entire arm it’s lift.
There’s a small 90*-ish angle piece that the main spring uses to keep itself under tension.
The thick curved piece you see in the picture underneath the notched parts goes back behind everything and is braced from the back side of the notches.
I’ll get some MSPaint-like editing later to help show.
I might have just lucked out.. it'll be next week before I know but I pinged a guy on FB down in Detroit selling a P-2134 that looks pretty immaculate. He was asking $20. He sent him number and we chatted for a few.. he's planning to ship it to me sometime middle/end of next week. Even says I can wait to pay him until it gets here and I make sure it's all good. Guy said he's in demolition, finds stuff all the time and found this ~3 years ago and never did anything with it.
Of course I still want to fix this one I've got but, maybe someone could use all the other parts to restore their own?
Of course I still want to fix this one I've got but, maybe someone could use all the other parts to restore their own?
I have two lamps like this, but not sure of the maker!
There at the shop one hour away.
An idea strikes!
How about a normal coil spring, a very stiff one. All thread running through from top to ballast enclosure. Support rods ‘prop’ being supported by the edge of the spring. And using a nut to adjust tension by raising the spring up or down. Only real issue I see is; A. will the spring be enough to keep the lamp head aloft and B. Keeping the top half of the spring from being shoved too far away from the body.
How about a normal coil spring, a very stiff one. All thread running through from top to ballast enclosure. Support rods ‘prop’ being supported by the edge of the spring. And using a nut to adjust tension by raising the spring up or down. Only real issue I see is; A. will the spring be enough to keep the lamp head aloft and B. Keeping the top half of the spring from being shoved too far away from the body.
Zeke
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If all you have to do is get the hook up where one of the notches are and insert the rod, weld a 2' long rod on the hook and bend it up there. Seems as there are more than on notch it is adjustable for tension. If it is adjustable then someone can adjust it. If you're having trouble holding it put one side of the spring housing in a vise and wind the spring in the horizonal position.
If you don't have a welder drill the hook and double nut a hardened rod to it. Or use a long tight fitting drift with a cheater if necessary. There is no stress on the high part of the hook arch.
Bert's idea might work if the flat bar doesn't bend or run out of room. You can add stiffeners but at one point you'll have more work in the tools to fix it than the lamp itself.
If you don't have a welder drill the hook and double nut a hardened rod to it. Or use a long tight fitting drift with a cheater if necessary. There is no stress on the high part of the hook arch.
Bert's idea might work if the flat bar doesn't bend or run out of room. You can add stiffeners but at one point you'll have more work in the tools to fix it than the lamp itself.
Jim_No_Garage
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I'm following this conversation as I had a similar issue with one of my many Dazors. The parts are resting in storage hoping for a creative re-use somehow.
Cheers
Jim
Cheers
Jim
As I stated when I Registered here, I had the same thing happen to me, it scared me dodo less, but even more-so when I looked down and saw that it had nearly severed my index finger. Contacted Dazor and was told that if I was lucky my index finger was all that was damaged, but that if I sent the unit into them that they could recompress the Spring. I never did, I had three more of them.Whelp I somehow done effed up. While trying to keep tension on the spring in order to get the first elbow connected the spring block popped out and relieved all the built up pressure.
I feel like the lamp is royally screwed now.
Any tips?
So after you take the nice covers off the sides there is the u shaped frame right?
I drilled a small hole straight through that right down where I could slide a nail thru that would engage with the ‘teeth’ of the, well… whatever you’d call the cam side?
Anyway I pulled the rotating part up and out of the clamp base. Put the u frame into the Vice and inserted that hardened pin ito the teeth that the wheel uses to transfer tension to the wheel.
Carefully pried against that pin and slowly worked that toothed wheel until I could slide a finishing nail thru the drilled holes.
Then a smidge more prying was finally able to get that fulcrum lever piece to engage with the tension pin.
Idk if that’s followable in the least…
Jazz1
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Beware that Spring, I leaned the Hard Way, (the part shown in your Pic. hit my finger, snapped it at the joint), its under tremendous load. spoke to DAZOR, they can repair these if needed.
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Ooof damn man, your finger has my sympathies.
Yeah I'm learning that I likely put the upper wheel back into the frame backwards. I mean.. it works.. it all works good, I can grab the lamp head and move it all over the place but at rest it just looks, not totally right. But I don't care! I'm not about to take it back apart.
Yeah I'm learning that I likely put the upper wheel back into the frame backwards. I mean.. it works.. it all works good, I can grab the lamp head and move it all over the place but at rest it just looks, not totally right. But I don't care! I'm not about to take it back apart.
Old Moparz
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Cool to see another old thing being saved, I hate tossing things out. 
I have the same light, or a very similar one, that I have been saving to use with my drafting table. I don't do any mechanical drawing anymore but plan to set the table up in my second floor room of the garage for my wife to start doing her stained glass projects again. Right now it's clamped to the end of my basement workbench.
I thought I had a better photo of it but it's gone. You can see the base of it on my workbench next to my project manager, Igor.
I have the same light, or a very similar one, that I have been saving to use with my drafting table. I don't do any mechanical drawing anymore but plan to set the table up in my second floor room of the garage for my wife to start doing her stained glass projects again. Right now it's clamped to the end of my basement workbench.
I thought I had a better photo of it but it's gone.
You can see the base of it on my workbench next to my project manager, Igor.Attachments
Old Moparz
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Now I will be paying attention to the colors on these lights when I see them at flea markets, thrift shops & other places.