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I did start to move the posts , however I goofed ever so slightly ... figured I could move them in groups... not thinking that changed the post #'s of the later posts , so everything got screwed up because I was going by post numbers that Mike931 supplied me...they were no longer accurate ... I moved them all back, Will have to start again fresh tomorrow .
Do it backwards...
 
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Do it backwards...
now that is too easy ! that'll work too.
reminds me of a story a guy I know used to be in building TV commercial sets . they wanted a 1 armed bandit to land on the winning line up . apparently the chiefs worked at it for several days trying to figure out how to do it. They asked him if he had any ideas. He said, line it up to what you want shown, film it in reverse ,pull the lever , done.
 
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I think I've got them all . if you notice any in the other thread that should be here, also if there's anything in here that doesn't belong, let me know. I'll unstick it in a few days

amazing. thank you
 

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now that is too easy ! that'll work too.
reminds me of a story a guy I know used to be in building TV commercial sets . they wanted a 1 armed bandit to land on the winning line up . apparently the chiefs worked at it for several days trying to figure out how to do it. They asked him if he had any ideas. He said, line it up to what you want shown, film it in reverse ,pull the lever , done.
Sometimes you have to start with the :) ending... what can I say.
 

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quarter size model for the heck of it. I need to dry a roll of TPU overnight to do the rest of the tires for chair #2, so instead of idling the printer, i figured i might as well do something fun. each plate is about 3 hrs using a 0.4MM nozzle and 0.16MM layer height

should be something like 6-8" tall

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the supports on the wheels are terrrrible. im trying a different way.
 

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OK, I will admit that I didn't read all 5 pages, and I find what you are doing admirable. I would just like to make one suggestion: form a corporation, preferably a C corporation. That way, you eliminate personal liability and then buy a multi-million dollar liability insurance policy. Yes, you are filling a need; however, if one of those children gets injured while using your wheelchair, a lawyer is going to go after you and take everything you own. Just the cost of defending any litigation is prohibitive. Yes, insurance is expensive, but it is part of the cost of what you are manufacturing. You might want to consider going on Shark Tank and getting an investor. They will have the connections to make you a multi-millionaire while providing all the business advice that you will need going forward.
 

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OK, I will admit that I didn't read all 5 pages, and I find what you are doing admirable. I would just like to make one suggestion: form a corporation, preferably a C corporation. That way, you eliminate personal liability and then buy a multi-million dollar liability insurance policy. Yes, you are filling a need; however, if one of those children gets injured while using your wheelchair, a lawyer is going to go after you and take everything you own. Just the cost of defending any litigation is prohibitive. Yes, insurance is expensive, but it is part of the cost of what you are manufacturing. You might want to consider going on Shark Tank and getting an investor. They will have the connections to make you a multi-millionaire while providing all the business advice that you will need going forward.
Garage Journal legal, financial and business advice all in one!

I get you have good intentions with this post, but I am not worried. Plus, I already have a multi million dollar liability policy (umbrella) that covers work done while volunteering outside of being a board member. In those cases, I only serve on a board when a directors and officers policy is in effect
 
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OK, I will admit that I didn't read all 5 pages, and I find what you are doing admirable. I would just like to make one suggestion: form a corporation, preferably a C corporation. That way, you eliminate personal liability and then buy a multi-million dollar liability insurance policy. Yes, you are filling a need; however, if one of those children gets injured while using your wheelchair, a lawyer is going to go after you and take everything you own. Just the cost of defending any litigation is prohibitive. Yes, insurance is expensive, but it is part of the cost of what you are manufacturing. You might want to consider going on Shark Tank and getting an investor. They will have the connections to make you a multi-millionaire while providing all the business advice that you will need going forward.

Its a 503C.
 

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First off, you have to alternate the wheel colors!

Are those all 0.8mm nozzle? How many walls did you run?

We went to assemble a chair tonight and I had cracking in both front wings. They're reprinting now with a 3rd wall.

I had some issues with the first chair at 2 walls and chalked some of it up to it being my first assembly, but after this, I'm really leaning towards 2 walls being barely adequate
 
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First off, you have to alternate the wheel colors!

Are those all 0.8mm nozzle? How many walls did you run?

We went to assemble a chair tonight and I had cracking in both front wings. They're reprinting now with a 3rd wall.

I had some issues with the first chair at 2 walls and chalked some of it up to it being my first assembly, but after this, I'm really leaning towards 2 walls being barely adequate

the mini is .6mm nozzles.

on the wedge locks? i sanded them down and cleaned the inside a bunch to get them to bottom out better. in V3 im asking for clearance in there by .5mm
 

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the mini is .6mm nozzles.

on the wedge locks? i sanded them down and cleaned the inside a bunch to get them to bottom out better. in V3 im asking for clearance in there by .5mm
Thank you. Some of the parts are just too tight.

Did you print a headrest? At 0.36 layer, it didn't create enough threads to engage the screw. I'm going to have to reprint it today.
 
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Thank you. Some of the parts are just too tight.

Did you print a headrest? At 0.36 layer, it didn't create enough threads to engage the screw. I'm going to have to reprint it today.

I think a .75mm chamfer on them would help a lot as well.
 

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you got any other notes?
2.5mm notch was enough for the front casters to clear

I need to test the single piece footrest but expect it will work

I'd really like the push handle to be more solid. The design doesn't inspire a ton of confidence if the child needs a good amount of assistance.

I think the front casters should have taller wheels.

Would be fantastic if the wings could be shorted just enough to print standing up

Publish the new files with the wheels and tires all setup at the right quantity instead of saying to reprint 4x and 2x, respectively
 
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2.5mm notch was enough for the front casters to clear
yup. got that already on my list.

I need to test the single piece footrest but expect it will work
H2s? or on 256 cube?

I'd really like the push handle to be more solid. The design doesn't inspire a ton of confidence if the child needs a good amount of assistance.
lotta leverage there. would need to turn it to get more truss in the direction of force.

I think the front casters should have taller wheels.

bigger diameter?
Would be fantastic if the wings could be shorted just enough to print standing up
wings being the front most piece on the main frame?

Publish the new files with the wheels and tires all setup at the right quantity instead of saying to reprint 4x and 2x, respectively
Yup
 

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If somebody were to "two-tone" print the PETG, would it be roughly 4kg each, or more like 3/5kg split? Anyone have a list of a "coordinated look" for doing this?
 

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If somebody were to "two-tone" print the PETG, would it be roughly 4kg each, or more like 3/5kg split? Anyone have a list of a "coordinated look" for doing this?
You can split it a bunch of ways as the parts are across 20+ plates. I have a spreadsheet that lets me input inventory and the assign color to each print to confirm I have enough.

I'm doing the big variety of colors just to make it fun. Ends up requiring a bunch more planning, though

If I was doing two colors, I'd probably do all of the side parts in color 1 and then the center parts in color two. Wheels half and half. I'd have to look at the file to see the split, but I bet it would be between 7/2 and 6/3
 

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Gotcha. We (the HS) may be sponsoring a print for an Elem. student and going to do it in school colors, hence the "two-tone". I see the files on the plates, but was lacking the "vision" to see how it would make sense fully assembled and look good color wise.
 

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Gotcha. We (the HS) may be sponsoring a print for an Elem. student and going to do it in school colors, hence the "two-tone". I see the files on the plates, but was lacking the "vision" to see how it would make sense fully assembled and look good color wise.
I think a way to easily model the colors as an assembly would be cool, but when I try to bring the Stl's all into fusion, my computer bursts into flames.

I struggle with a lack of symmetry, so I'd split it the way I said, but a toddler doesnt care.

Dont forget the TPU color. Good chance for an accent
 

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Thanks
And are you good with the quality of the prints using a 0.8 nozzle, 0.40MM layer and telling BS that it is HF Petg?

I ran that through BS and got 5 days 14hrs (4 days 10 hrs with a HF nozzle) for the PETG parts, which is absolutely wild compared to the 10 days 10 hrs with a 0.4MM nozzle and generic PETG
 
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And are you good with the quality of the prints using a 0.8 nozzle, 0.40MM layer and telling BS that it is HF Petg?

I ran that through BS and got 5 days 14hrs (4 days 10 hrs with a HF nozzle) for the PETG parts, which is absolutely wild compared to the 10 days 10 hrs with a 0.4MM nozzle and generic PETG

there are some prints that doesnt work on. like the handle. too much drooping.

but yea the 8mm nozzle is willdddd for technical large prints.
 
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