Bob Heine
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A near-death experience can make you miserable or make you smile every day. I like to smile... 
Reorganization, it's like a renovation.
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lol You guys didn't miss too much. I'm not that photogenic anyway.maybe I'll post one of me in my welding gear one of these days.
Edit: ok, just real quick...
And, missed it again. Geez, give those of us who don't live online a chance, will ya? ;-)
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GirlnAgarage
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lol really? again?
Just picture a skinny hispanic chick with short hair, a blue dress, and pearls standing next to a tux with a standard issue military haircut that went a week too long
I'm not that comfortable putting my picture up online (for a couple reasons) so this was pushing it for me. Sorry friend.Bob, you got that right.
Outlaww, it was quite the event. Glad we went.
Don, tinbender and 98TJ, thanks guys
The Slurpee King
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I missed the pic, too, but that's okay. You're probably smarter to do that in the long run. I don't post pics of myself on-line if I can help it. I've been known to untag FB pics, too, and I'm not even on Facebook under my real name.
Glad you had fun. You seem to work harder than some self-employed people I know, so you deserve it.
Glad you had fun. You seem to work harder than some self-employed people I know, so you deserve it.
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GirlnAgarage
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Haven't been able to put in much time in the garage. November was crazy but now I have a little time.
I got one of the last two drawers welded up and ready for paint prep. I meant to do both but it's 43*, rainy and my toes couldn't handle it anymore. So I called it a day and came in for a hot bowl of Caldo. The upside is the cold helps the metal stay relatively cool to help prevent burn through.
Took pics but they're boring. But here's one of the top drawer mocked into place. The 10th and final will go in the red down there.
I got one of the last two drawers welded up and ready for paint prep. I meant to do both but it's 43*, rainy and my toes couldn't handle it anymore. So I called it a day and came in for a hot bowl of Caldo. The upside is the cold helps the metal stay relatively cool to help prevent burn through.
Took pics but they're boring. But here's one of the top drawer mocked into place. The 10th and final will go in the red down there.
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GirlnAgarage
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And now I'm just wondering, why do you ask?
I find that question a little irritating. I can't help but wonder if you'd still be asking me the same question if I were a guy. So to answer your question, the same tools that any guy would be putting in his tool drawers.
Socket sets, wrench sets, ratchet sets and all the other tools I have all over the place.
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Wow I dont understand?sikopal
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Good on ya Girl! Tell it like it is!Who cares what you plan on putting in your drawers (no pun intended). Your work speaks for itself!
98TJ
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Reminds me of the line from ******.
"What's in the car?"
"Seats and a steering wheel."
Honestly, what wouldn't she store in them?
shovel
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Just fininshed reading this thread from start to finish. I have been a member for a while here and I read, but dont post a lot. There is a LOT of stuff to weed through on this site, so I often miss good threads like this one. Let me start by saying that GirlInAgarage, I am impressed. I appreciate your craftsmanship, attention to detail, and the sharing of the thought and processes that go into your projects. I am mostly impressed by your persistance and will to find a way to make things work, and to do so with the minimal amount of tools and cash. My Dad was like that; he could do more with less than anybody I have ever met. That genetic trait did not get passed to me, but I digress... I just wanted to say thanks. I know that you post to get advice, but this thread has done more to inspire me than most anything else on the forum. It takes (me) a lot of time to photo, document and share on an internet forum. I too, am trying to learn sheet metal basics without formal training. Really good information in your posts, drawings and pictures. Thank you again, and please keep up the posts.
By the way, the leatherwork is awsome as well.
By the way, the leatherwork is awsome as well.
Bob Heine
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Kinda hits home. My daughter studied engineering in college. When she earned her Engineering Masters degree, the first question everyone asked me was "Electrical?" and when I said Mechanical they were all shocked. Her girlie thesis was "Stress Analysis of Titanium Alloys." Growing up around me, she thought being a girl was no more of a handicap than being a guy, especially guys like me who are mathematically challenged.
In usafmora's defense, his (her) question was pretty broad. If you were planning to store power drills or impact wrenches in those drawers, they might be a bit shallow.
Now that human communication has been reduced to 140 characters per utterance, clarity and intent have to be left out. LOL really says it all (actually, I rarely laugh out loud when I'm alone with my computer).
In usafmora's defense, his (her) question was pretty broad. If you were planning to store power drills or impact wrenches in those drawers, they might be a bit shallow.
Now that human communication has been reduced to 140 characters per utterance, clarity and intent have to be left out. LOL really says it all (actually, I rarely laugh out loud when I'm alone with my computer).
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GirlnAgarage
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First of I need to apologize to Phxphenom for biting his head off. Just shouldn't have done it.
My first reaction to his question was "It's a garage toolbox,whaddaya think?".
Anyhow, Phxphenom I apologize.
As I said up there, tools are going in my drawers. Hand tools. The first thing is I've got a Cman mechanics set my dad gave me years ago for Christmas. That is my main set. It will get sorta and put in the drawers. Next is my hand carry toolbox that use to be my truck box. Right now it basically serves as my top box (over the 3drawer thing below). The tools in there will be sorted and stored - ratchets, screw drivers, center punches, extensions, scissors, slip joint pliers and whatnot.
Then I've got full sets of metric and SAE combo wrenches that need a place. Also some flare nut wrenches and offset DBE wrenches. On the floor I currently use a big plastic three drawer unit to store small tools and writing/marking utensils. Plus sand papers and my diagrams and reference charts. On drawer even has my electrical stuff in it - wires, pliers, connectors. With that said there's a lot of hardware that will be sorted and stored in the 18 drawer Lyon unit that will go on the shelf on one side of the tool drawers. I'm building a shelf there so my larger tools and power tools will be stored under there. Things like my circular saw, hand drill, recip saw, drill dr, orbital sander, etc. This will essentially clear off an entire shelf on the front wall of the garage.
My first reaction to his question was "It's a garage toolbox,whaddaya think?".
Anyhow, Phxphenom I apologize.
As I said up there, tools are going in my drawers. Hand tools. The first thing is I've got a Cman mechanics set my dad gave me years ago for Christmas. That is my main set. It will get sorta and put in the drawers. Next is my hand carry toolbox that use to be my truck box. Right now it basically serves as my top box (over the 3drawer thing below). The tools in there will be sorted and stored - ratchets, screw drivers, center punches, extensions, scissors, slip joint pliers and whatnot.
Then I've got full sets of metric and SAE combo wrenches that need a place. Also some flare nut wrenches and offset DBE wrenches. On the floor I currently use a big plastic three drawer unit to store small tools and writing/marking utensils. Plus sand papers and my diagrams and reference charts. On drawer even has my electrical stuff in it - wires, pliers, connectors. With that said there's a lot of hardware that will be sorted and stored in the 18 drawer Lyon unit that will go on the shelf on one side of the tool drawers. I'm building a shelf there so my larger tools and power tools will be stored under there. Things like my circular saw, hand drill, recip saw, drill dr, orbital sander, etc. This will essentially clear off an entire shelf on the front wall of the garage.
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GirlnAgarage
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Just fininshed reading this thread from start to finish. I have been a member for a while here and I read, but dont post a lot. There is a LOT of stuff to weed through on this site, so I often miss good threads like this one. Let me start by saying that GirlInAgarage, I am impressed. I appreciate your craftsmanship, attention to detail, and the sharing of the thought and processes that go into your projects. I am mostly impressed by your persistance and will to find a way to make things work, and to do so with the minimal amount of tools and cash. My Dad was like that; he could do more with less than anybody I have ever met. That genetic trait did not get passed to me, but I digress... I just wanted to say thanks. I know that you post to get advice, but this thread has done more to inspire me than most anything else on the forum. It takes (me) a lot of time to photo, document and share on an internet forum. I too, am trying to learn sheet metal basics without formal training. Really good information in your posts, drawings and pictures. Thank you again, and please keep up the posts.
By the way, the leatherwork is awsome as well.
I appreciate it
There's always a way for things to get done, just a matter of finding it and be willing to put in the effort to do it.
Bob, that's exactly what it is like.
My LOL is really a chuckle.
You're right angle some of the larger tools not fitting in the drawers. They're built shallow so they'll house the hand tools. The power tools I'll store on the side shelf. I'll wrap that up once I grab some more 2x4 and ply. I'll be skinning the back of the workbench so I just need to do the math on how much ply I'll need.
GirlnAgarage,
The one thing I can say after being on this forum for 5+ years is that most people posting have good intentions, especially in the Gallery section. It seems members treat the build threads as the OP's home turf. And as such, they keep the negativity out of it, unless the OP truly asked for it. (The same can't quite be said for the General sections or the Free Parking areas though - watch out
)
A person's question or comment can sometimes be taken many ways, but in the Gallery it's very likely they mean nothing bad by it. And if it's obvious that they do, ignore them - it's not worth getting all worked up about. Honestly, I think most people are just plain curious.
My $.02
The one thing I can say after being on this forum for 5+ years is that most people posting have good intentions, especially in the Gallery section. It seems members treat the build threads as the OP's home turf. And as such, they keep the negativity out of it, unless the OP truly asked for it. (The same can't quite be said for the General sections or the Free Parking areas though - watch out
)A person's question or comment can sometimes be taken many ways, but in the Gallery it's very likely they mean nothing bad by it. And if it's obvious that they do, ignore them - it's not worth getting all worked up about. Honestly, I think most people are just plain curious.
My $.02
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GirlnAgarage
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GirlnAgarage,
The one thing I can say after being on this forum for 5+ years is that most people posting have good intentions, especially in the Gallery section. It seems members treat the build threads as the OP's home turf. And as such, they keep the negativity out of it, unless the OP truly asked for it. (The same can't quite be said for the General sections or the Free Parking areas though - watch out
A person's question or comment can sometimes be taken many ways, but in the Gallery it's very likely they mean nothing bad by it. And if it's obvious that they do, ignore them - it's not worth getting all worked up about. Honestly, I think most people are just plain curious.
My $.02
Thanks Shopnut, I think you're right. I appreciate and certainly use the reminders.
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GirlnAgarage
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Going out to finish this last drawer. Been a bit down lately and working in my leather shop only makes my mind crank. Right now the sun is out and it is calling (though it is still crazy cold). I received a good tip and I'm going to weld this drawer from the inside. Should be a little easier to hold a puddle and make for much less cleanup on the outside corner. Let's see what happens...
Red Leader
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Sounds good. I'm looking forward to seeing all the drawers in there.
Do you have heat in your shop? I don't and it makes working out there crazy!
Stay warm
Do you have heat in your shop? I don't and it makes working out there crazy!
Stay warm
Alchymist
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Sounds good. I'm looking forward to seeing all the drawers in there.
Do you have heat in your shop? I don't and it makes working out there crazy!
Stay warm
Ya haven't lived until you've been out in a cold shop with a little electric heater sitting on one end of the saw table while you're putting the finishing touches on a project at the other end.
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GirlnAgarage
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Ok, got the drawer done. Will have pics up in a bit. It was interesting welding from the inside. It was easier to hold a puddle. I was a bit disgusted with how the corner looked from the other side though. (Yup, have pics. Will post them with all my shame). So I cleaned up the outside, ground out my joint and rewelded on the outside. Actually came out decent. Then cleaned up the corner.
I did run into a problem towards the end with my EZ lock mandrel. It was acting like an EZ UNlock. The spring isn't tensioning the cap so it allows the cap to spin. This is a problem as it moves the locking teeth to mis/align and allows the grinding disc to come off the mandrel. I had to keep stopping every minute or two to check the stupid thing. Once it lost all tension I cleaned up and closed up shop. I was just putting the **** retentive touches on the corners but had them all smoothed out for the most part. I didn't need to lodge the disc in my carotid today.
What should I do with that mandrel? I'd like to send it to Dremel with a note. I did buy it from Lowes just this summer though I don't have that receipt anymore. Wonder if they'd replace it anyway?
Red Leader, no heat in my garage Yup, I can feel your pain brother. But I think your pain is colder lol I wear my insulated riding boots during the winter when I work out there. I layer my shirts too. I have one of DHs old flight suits for welding and I put that on for an extra layer. And my knit cap to keep my noggin warm.
Alchymist, you're right about the little heater. I have am electric space heater I used for the longest time until the contacts broke off the coils. I fixed it once already. But not good enough s it broke in the same place. I kept it in the closet and meant to really fix it (I was going to weld the heck out of everything and dare it fail again) but I tossed it out in a fit of housecleaning rage. Needles to say, I need to get another little heater.
Will have pics in a little while. Must get some warm soup and coffee in me.
I did run into a problem towards the end with my EZ lock mandrel. It was acting like an EZ UNlock. The spring isn't tensioning the cap so it allows the cap to spin. This is a problem as it moves the locking teeth to mis/align and allows the grinding disc to come off the mandrel. I had to keep stopping every minute or two to check the stupid thing. Once it lost all tension I cleaned up and closed up shop. I was just putting the **** retentive touches on the corners but had them all smoothed out for the most part. I didn't need to lodge the disc in my carotid today.
What should I do with that mandrel? I'd like to send it to Dremel with a note. I did buy it from Lowes just this summer though I don't have that receipt anymore. Wonder if they'd replace it anyway?
Red Leader, no heat in my garage
Yup, I can feel your pain brother. But I think your pain is colder lol I wear my insulated riding boots during the winter when I work out there. I layer my shirts too. I have one of DHs old flight suits for welding and I put that on for an extra layer. And my knit cap to keep my noggin warm.Alchymist, you're right about the little heater. I have am electric space heater I used for the longest time until the contacts broke off the coils. I fixed it once already. But not good enough s it broke in the same place. I kept it in the closet and meant to really fix it (I was going to weld the heck out of everything and dare it fail again) but I tossed it out in a fit of housecleaning rage. Needles to say, I need to get another little heater.
Will have pics in a little while. Must get some warm soup and coffee in me.
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GirlnAgarage
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Top drawer is mounted. Top is ready to go on. I have a tube of Liquid Nails to glue the layers but it's cold here so I need to warm that up before applying.
Here's where the Lyon is going.
Grabbing lunch and then running to Lowes for a 2x4 and maybe the ply. Need a lot of that - the back skin, side skin and the shelves. I don't need ply under the Lyon, as it is I only have 3/8" to play with, plus the Lyon's bottom edges are the lowest point on the unit. I might just so it matches the other three shelves. Got to add up and see what's the best way to skin this cat (how much ply and what configs to buy).
Here's where the Lyon is going.
Grabbing lunch and then running to Lowes for a 2x4 and maybe the ply. Need a lot of that - the back skin, side skin and the shelves. I don't need ply under the Lyon, as it is I only have 3/8" to play with, plus the Lyon's bottom edges are the lowest point on the unit. I might just so it matches the other three shelves. Got to add up and see what's the best way to skin this cat (how much ply and what configs to buy).
Looks nice, girl. I haven't been onb this thread since my post but truly it was a sincere question. I was just curious about what tools you had but didn't mean anything demeaning by the question.
By the way, I would have asked the same question of anyone who put as much care and thought into such a project.
Marc
By the way, I would have asked the same question of anyone who put as much care and thought into such a project.
Marc
tinbender 66
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I think that Lyon is the exact same one that I have. I just mounted mine up under my cabinets. Handy unit.
That whole setup is gonna look awesome when it's done.
I hear ya on the cold. 21° here this morning. I can't seem to pry my **** outta the garage office.
That whole setup is gonna look awesome when it's done
.I hear ya on the cold. 21° here this morning. I can't seem to pry my **** outta the garage office
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GirlnAgarage
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Got a little more done this afternoon, though hardly looks like anything is different. I cut the 2x4 pieces in place that I needed. Also got the left side ply put on each shelf. Cutting out corner notches is annoying so this will be the last time I use this design. Need to make it more simple. I had to take out the side 2x4s to get the ply in. It's like a crazy puzzle. That took a little longer than I wanted.
Hopefully tomorrow I'll have the right side done. Also would love to get the top on so it looks like something.
Thanks Marc.
Love the Lyon. It came with the lot of tools I grabbed off CL this summer ($100 total!) - 18 drawer, specs 10.5"h x 17" d x 34"w. I can put several type of items in each drawer they are so long. I will actually have nuts, bolts, nails, screws and electrical connectors sorted!! This unit has some paint chips and rust. And her drawers are three different colors. I'd like to paint them up with matching hammered gray (read: tedious!). But would it be a travesty to repaint such a box?
I felt beat up this evening when I got done. The cold makes things hurt.
Hopefully tomorrow I'll have the right side done. Also would love to get the top on so it looks like something.
Thanks Marc.
I think that Lyon is the exact same one that I have. I just mounted mine up under my cabinets. Handy unit.
That whole setup is gonna look awesome when it's done
I hear ya on the cold. 21° here this morning. I can't seem to pry my **** outta the garage office
Love the Lyon. It came with the lot of tools I grabbed off CL this summer ($100 total!) - 18 drawer, specs 10.5"h x 17" d x 34"w. I can put several type of items in each drawer they are so long. I will actually have nuts, bolts, nails, screws and electrical connectors sorted!!
This unit has some paint chips and rust. And her drawers are three different colors. I'd like to paint them up with matching hammered gray (read: tedious!). But would it be a travesty to repaint such a box? I felt beat up this evening when I got done. The cold makes things hurt.
tinbender 66
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My Lyon is the exact same dimensions as yours but it has four levels of drawers for 24 total.
I managed to get some stuff done today in spite of the cold but it's not fun. But......what are ya gonna do when the weather is gonna be about the same for the next week or so (or all winter maybe). I'm not good at just sitting around.
I don't think there would be anything wrong with painting that Lyon. But of course I would say that since I already painted mine hahaha.
I managed to get some stuff done today in spite of the cold but it's not fun
. But......what are ya gonna do when the weather is gonna be about the same for the next week or so (or all winter maybe). I'm not good at just sitting around.I don't think there would be anything wrong with painting that Lyon. But of course I would say that since I already painted mine hahaha.
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GirlnAgarage
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My Lyon is the exact same dimensions as yours but it has four levels of drawers for 24 total.
I managed to get some stuff done today in spite of the cold but it's not fun
I don't think there would be anything wrong with painting that Lyon. But of course I would say that since I already painted mine hahaha.
Yeah, seems there's almost no choice but to go out and freeze. Can't hibernate all winter like bears do.
Today is already a little warmer, already 50*. Even suppose to get into the 60s tomorrow and Thursday, though with rain. But warmer is good so I can paint the last two drawers. I'll have them prepped and ready.
I really need to get to the add more lights phase already. It gets dark early and I might as well have been working with my eyes closed yesterday evening.
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GirlnAgarage
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Beer me! I feel good - yeah!
Worked on making this thing look like something. Got a few details to take care of (paint, drawers) but it's about done. I don't think Ill be skinning all of it, maybe the center behind the drawers. It's freakin' heavy already and there's really no need to do the rest. It would just make the shelves dark and hard to see in.
I got after it today. First got the bottom drawer mounted after much procrastination. This turned out to be a screw up and it goes all the way back to how I built the bench frame. But got it fit and installed. Need to paint these 2x4s at the bottom. Also get the top and bottom drawer painted. Hopefully tomorrow, the temps are warmer but rain is forecast. But I"ll have them ready to go.
Once the drawer was mounted I moved on to getting the right side shelves notched and installed. That went relatively smooth, even got my Lyon fit in there which I didn't think would happened with larger than 3/8" ply (I used 15/32 for the shelves).
Once that was done I dove into the bench top.
Bottom is 19/32" ply, top is 3/4" birch top ply. I staggered the joints.
The ply was a little bigger than I needed so I placed the top on and traced my lines.
Pulled each piece off and cut. Left them slightly big so I can sand down to even.
After the cuts, put it all together using liquid nails and deck screws.
As I was snugging down one of the last screws I broke the Phillips tip of my SO ratcheting screwdriver.
So how do I got about getting the tip replaced? Is this a warrantied item? N biggie if not but thought I'd check. I don't have a SO guy. And this ratchet was a gift from a friend many moons ago.
Worked on making this thing look like something. Got a few details to take care of (paint, drawers) but it's about done. I don't think Ill be skinning all of it, maybe the center behind the drawers. It's freakin' heavy already and there's really no need to do the rest. It would just make the shelves dark and hard to see in.
I got after it today. First got the bottom drawer mounted after much procrastination. This turned out to be a screw up and it goes all the way back to how I built the bench frame. But got it fit and installed. Need to paint these 2x4s at the bottom. Also get the top and bottom drawer painted. Hopefully tomorrow, the temps are warmer but rain is forecast. But I"ll have them ready to go.
Once the drawer was mounted I moved on to getting the right side shelves notched and installed. That went relatively smooth, even got my Lyon fit in there which I didn't think would happened with larger than 3/8" ply (I used 15/32 for the shelves).
Once that was done I dove into the bench top.
Bottom is 19/32" ply, top is 3/4" birch top ply. I staggered the joints.
The ply was a little bigger than I needed so I placed the top on and traced my lines.
Pulled each piece off and cut. Left them slightly big so I can sand down to even.
After the cuts, put it all together using liquid nails and deck screws.
As I was snugging down one of the last screws I broke the Phillips tip of my SO ratcheting screwdriver.
So how do I got about getting the tip replaced? Is this a warrantied item? N biggie if not but thought I'd check. I don't have a SO guy. And this ratchet was a gift from a friend many moons ago.
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JimVonBaden
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You should have a few extras all the time. They are available at any auto parts store, or home supply store.
Jim
Jim
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GirlnAgarage
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You should have a few extras all the time. They are available at any auto parts store, or home supply store.
Jim
I have extras. Threw on another 2 tip from my orange plastic thingy full of various driver tips.
Outlawmws
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Pretty sure tips are "consumable" Any decent hardware store will have tips, Apex are good, DeWalt used to be, not sure about now (China? 
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Lookin' Good Girl!
).Lookin' Good Girl!
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GirlnAgarage
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Cool thanks yall. Never broke one of these tips, just worn out the standard screw drivers.
machine_punk
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Looks great! I've been waiting to see this bench finished--and it was worth the wait. You have inspired me to build my own drawers too (I was going to buy the HF drawer cabinets and build them into a larger storage unit, but now, I think I am going to build my own drawers too).
Great looking bench!
Great looking bench!
rickairmedic
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Girl the bench looks great . After looking at your bench pics I found your next project . You need to insulate that door it will keep your garage much warmer . We have been in the 20's to low 40's for a week and my attatched 2 car has yet to drop below 50 and I havent run the big heater at all just the little milkroom heater under the pub table .
Rick
. You need to insulate that door it will keep your garage much warmer . We have been in the 20's to low 40's for a week and my attatched 2 car has yet to drop below 50 and I havent run the big heater at all just the little milkroom heater under the pub table .Rick
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GirlnAgarage
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Thanks mp
It was great to get the project done. Take lots of pics when you do yours. Girl the bench looks great . After looking at your bench pics I found your next project
Rick
Hey Rick, yeah I definitely need to get the insulation on the doors. My father-in-law's garage is insulated and I was admiring his doors over Thanksgiving. (That sounds weird) He said the insulated door does weigh a little more but should be doable. I'm kind of regretting getting past the wall stage and not insulating. Though at the time we really couldn't redo drywall. I'd be reaping the rewards now if I did.
Oh well.
rickairmedic
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Girl you can still insulate the walls just need a 2" hole at the top of the wall every 16" and use blown in insulation just like in the attic . Then simply patch the 2" holes and repaint the top portion of the walls oooor add another stripe around the top .
Rick
.Rick
Octarine
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That tip is lifetime warranty by the way. All the Snap on branded ones are.
JimVonBaden
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Octarine
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A lot but you only buy them once
JimVonBaden
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A lot but you only buy them once
Seriously, I can get 3-4 for $2, and buy enough to last a year of normal use for $10. Is it really worth the cost, and waiting for the truck to come to replace the bad ones?
Not trying to be a smart ***, but not everything Snap-On is worth the premium.
Jim
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