The Derelict Garage rides again!!!
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HOTFR8
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Fergus you place has more style and character every time I look. Waiting to see how these doors turn out for you.
kngkong
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Hey Fergus the boards you put up in the house look great! I love that look in the garage too 
. If it gives you any ideas I saw this recently on one of those home architecture shows.
Guy had used a wood called Larch. Ran a torch over it which charred it a little an supposedly brings out the resins in the wood as a natural sealer. Thought it was pretty neat.
. If it gives you any ideas I saw this recently on one of those home architecture shows.
Guy had used a wood called Larch. Ran a torch over it which charred it a little an supposedly brings out the resins in the wood as a natural sealer. Thought it was pretty neat.
HOTFR8
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Well we all strive to give what we do its own character and you are doing well getting you place to have that individual character. Well done Sir.
Dan in Pasadena
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SpeedinLemon
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Great job all the way around Fergus. I like your door idea. Some of the used tin you talked about and some rustic wood framing would look great with that hardware you've got. I admire your reuse of materials. Keep up the good work!
Chris
Chris
I about sprayed my coffee on this one!Omphaloskeptic
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Those 'Cannonball Jr.' door hangers are quite the find; your doors are going to be dripping with character! From the picture, it appears they are identical to the two hanging on the garage rail; yes? Are the ID medallions brass? I wonder how vinegar might affect those medallions? If those are brass, they are going to really add to the character of the garage. The iron hangers painted gloss black, and the medallions shined up with Brasso and sealed with clear epoxy would make a nice touch to an already impressive restoration. I, too, join all the guys here in applauding your scrounge skills, re-use/re-purpose mindset, CL scores, and your ability to 'Squeeze a nickel till the Buffalo farts'! lol 
"Ompha stirred the pot up" - Fergus, it's my calling; along with 'meditating my navel'. lol
Just another stir of the pot.... I wonder if using dimension lumber (on the flat) for each door frame and a Re-Store door used as the panel within would work and still have that 'Fergusfied' look to it?
"Ompha stirred the pot up" - Fergus, it's my calling; along with 'meditating my navel'. lol
Just another stir of the pot.... I wonder if using dimension lumber (on the flat) for each door frame and a Re-Store door used as the panel within would work and still have that 'Fergusfied' look to it?
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Omphaloskeptic
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Well, Habitat store was a total bust, as it has been the half dozen other times I've been in the last year. On the up side, I found another place close by that might have something useful... a door and window contractor that sells all the stuff they take out.
I ordered a bunch of parts for the Jeep on my birthday - a little present to myself, some birthday cash, plus I sold my old roadrace leathers. With that money I got a new exhaust, ground cable, shift boots, 2nd gear and synchro, gaskets, oil lines, water pump, etc.
Today I did this:
After a week of trying, I was finally able to get 2nd and 3rd gear to shift. What a pain. It turns out the new syncro hub was too tight, causing the syncro dogs to stick in the hub and preventing positive engagement. Dropped in the old hub and it shifted on the first try! Woohoo! First time I've ever worked on a ******. I'm glad it was only a three speed.
I ordered a bunch of parts for the Jeep on my birthday - a little present to myself, some birthday cash, plus I sold my old roadrace leathers. With that money I got a new exhaust, ground cable, shift boots, 2nd gear and synchro, gaskets, oil lines, water pump, etc.
Today I did this:
After a week of trying, I was finally able to get 2nd and 3rd gear to shift. What a pain. It turns out the new syncro hub was too tight, causing the syncro dogs to stick in the hub and preventing positive engagement. Dropped in the old hub and it shifted on the first try! Woohoo! First time I've ever worked on a ******. I'm glad it was only a three speed.
Omphaloskeptic
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Too bad the Habitat Store didn't pan out. Good luck with your new source!
Been too many years since I rebuilt my GT6 ******, so I can't offer any sage advice on the new syncro problem other than I wonder if the old one could allow it to pop out of gear. Maybe you should consult the guys on your Jeep forum before you button it up.
P.S. - Happy Belated Birthday!
Been too many years since I rebuilt my GT6 ******, so I can't offer any sage advice on the new syncro problem other than I wonder if the old one could allow it to pop out of gear. Maybe you should consult the guys on your Jeep forum before you button it up.
P.S. - Happy Belated Birthday!
If you are going to use the vac as a dust collector, build yourself a cyclone collector for the majority of the wood chips and dust. Here is a shop built model that gets good reviews http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm
Other wise you will be stopping in the middle of your work to constantly empty the vac DAMHIK. I use a cheap lid I picked up some place and it makes a world of difference.
Other wise you will be stopping in the middle of your work to constantly empty the vac DAMHIK. I use a cheap lid I picked up some place and it makes a world of difference.
egnorant
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I just hope my shop begins to measure up!
Been a firm advocate of "cheap but correct" for a long time.
Big fan...keep it up!
Bruce
Been a firm advocate of "cheap but correct" for a long time.
Big fan...keep it up!
Bruce
Thanks Egnorant. Your place is gonna be rad....'specially when you consider its HUGE compared to this place...plus you got WAY more yard cars than me. Means you're higher up the food chain! (I keed, I keed).
Here's a little teaser for what I've got planned for the front of the garage
Here's a little teaser for what I've got planned for the front of the garage
HOTFR8
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Now this sounds interesting and I will be keen to see how this finishes up.
Well, a couple buddies came over and we had some burgers then started on framing out one side of the garage.
Doesn't seem like much work for three guys and a couple hours. But we had to chip out some asphalt (ever wonder why the Brits call it "ash-felt"?). Then, we found that the existing wall hung over the edge of the slab by about an inch. We just made the new wall **** up, then go back into plumb with the header where the new wall ended. Oh well...everything else is crooked on this guy. 'Sides, nobody will know...except for me, the other two guys...and now all you people!
Doesn't seem like much work for three guys and a couple hours. But we had to chip out some asphalt (ever wonder why the Brits call it "ash-felt"?). Then, we found that the existing wall hung over the edge of the slab by about an inch. We just made the new wall **** up, then go back into plumb with the header where the new wall ended. Oh well...everything else is crooked on this guy. 'Sides, nobody will know...except for me, the other two guys...and now all you people!
Lippyp
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I like the old wriggly tin but then I'm biased as I recently rebuilt this at the bottom of my garden.
HOTFR8
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Wriggly tin ??? Wriggly tin = Corrugated Iron. Well that is what it is commonly known as here.
Omphaloskeptic
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Fergus, those hinges are going to look great on the doors of your sketch! What color are you going to use for them? A deep gloss hue would really make those cool brass medallions pop.
As for the corrugated tin, I'd hang those onto the gable and do wood siding below. Easier to trim around your planned windows using wood and the tin on the gable would really add character to that area; especially when you score some unique porcelain-shaded exterior light fixture(s) [hint, hint, heh-heh]. The 'wall wash' of a down-light(s) would look vintage on the tin and cast some interesting shadows across the corrugation. The down light(s) high-lighting the brass medallions, the corrugated tin, the glass in the doors and windows and the glow of the varnished (?) wood siding and sliding doors would make you the hands-down winner in the 'Garages At Night' thread! Jack Olsen's 'interior' shot still gets top-billing in my book, but you could grab the 'exterior' pic crown, for sure!
Here it is almost September, better get busy on the wall and doors. You wouldn't want to dally in the alley and wind up working in those harsh winter temps of California! lol
As for the corrugated tin, I'd hang those onto the gable and do wood siding below. Easier to trim around your planned windows using wood and the tin on the gable would really add character to that area; especially when you score some unique porcelain-shaded exterior light fixture(s) [hint, hint, heh-heh]. The 'wall wash' of a down-light(s) would look vintage on the tin and cast some interesting shadows across the corrugation. The down light(s) high-lighting the brass medallions, the corrugated tin, the glass in the doors and windows and the glow of the varnished (?) wood siding and sliding doors would make you the hands-down winner in the 'Garages At Night' thread! Jack Olsen's 'interior' shot still gets top-billing in my book, but you could grab the 'exterior' pic crown, for sure!
Here it is almost September, better get busy on the wall and doors. You wouldn't want to dally in the alley and wind up working in those harsh winter temps of California! lol
As for the color of the hinges, the Minister of Design says she prefers rusty color. I'm inclined to agree. We'll see. My whole thought is "Let's just try it out and see".
Same holds true for the tin on the front.
Windows on the front walls have been vetoed at this point. I will have enough light, as I plan to later add some more windows on the side walls. Plus, it gives me a little more wall space, which is at a premium in a place this small.
Yeah, I know the California winter is a joke for the most part, but I have spent a few mornings out there at 35F...not real fun. Many nights here are around 45 or so, and that's just a little too cold to be standing around out there...unless you're moving enough. We do get plenty of heat here though. Hopefully insulation will be a reality at some point in the not so distant future.
Same holds true for the tin on the front.
Windows on the front walls have been vetoed at this point. I will have enough light, as I plan to later add some more windows on the side walls. Plus, it gives me a little more wall space, which is at a premium in a place this small.
Yeah, I know the California winter is a joke for the most part, but I have spent a few mornings out there at 35F...not real fun. Many nights here are around 45 or so, and that's just a little too cold to be standing around out there...unless you're moving enough. We do get plenty of heat here though. Hopefully insulation will be a reality at some point in the not so distant future.
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HOTFR8
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From this morning:
Building doors is taking a lot longer than I thought. Scratch that. Getting ready to build doors is taking a lot longer than I thought.
The old window sash I got is taking a ton of work to get ready. Had to scrape, strip, remove all the old glazing (cracked and falling out) and prime. Started re-glazing this morning. I'm cheating...using the Dap Latex window glazing. It cures in a day. No way I could wait a week or more. Its kind of a pain...and I **** at it. Slowly figuring out the technique. The best thing to do is keep your putty knife clean and wet with water.
I'll let it dry then clean the excess off the panes with a razor later.
Building doors is taking a lot longer than I thought. Scratch that. Getting ready to build doors is taking a lot longer than I thought.
The old window sash I got is taking a ton of work to get ready. Had to scrape, strip, remove all the old glazing (cracked and falling out) and prime. Started re-glazing this morning. I'm cheating...using the Dap Latex window glazing. It cures in a day. No way I could wait a week or more. Its kind of a pain...and I **** at it. Slowly figuring out the technique. The best thing to do is keep your putty knife clean and wet with water.
I'll let it dry then clean the excess off the panes with a razor later.
CoconutPete
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I like the siding/steel approach you took. Looks great!
Dan in Pasadena
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The trick with windowing glazing is that by the time you're done doing it is JUST about the time you ought to be starting in terms of my ability to make it look the way I want it to.
Will you paint the garage exterior so the "new" horizontal siding blends with the old?
Will you paint the garage exterior so the "new" horizontal siding blends with the old?
Not much of an update. Those dang windows ate up so much time...
I was working mornings and evenings on it, but just got tired and ran out of steam. Then I had to be out of town for work for about a week. Got one door halfway built:
Got the rollers cleaned up/tags polished. I think I'm gonna leave them bare steel with some lacquer over the top:
I'll probably clean the rail for the rollers up to bare steel as well. I'll get back to it next week.
I was working mornings and evenings on it, but just got tired and ran out of steam. Then I had to be out of town for work for about a week. Got one door halfway built:
Got the rollers cleaned up/tags polished. I think I'm gonna leave them bare steel with some lacquer over the top:
I'll probably clean the rail for the rollers up to bare steel as well. I'll get back to it next week.
ZRX61
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It goes a lot quicker if you use a UK style putty knife, like the one at the top of this pic
ZRX61
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I don't think they are sold in the US, I had mine sent over from the UK
nmk_61802
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Not quite getting the three door setup. From the pics it looks like the track is only a single track, not a double bypass. How are you getting the full 10' usable opening, and not have the back panel in the way?
Omphaloskeptic
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Glad to see that you are getting those doors built; winter is just around the bend! Building the doors and refurbishing those windows is slow, tedious work. Good for you in persevering! Take as much time as it takes, don't rush it or get frustrated with your progress. Those doors are going to be unique and are worth spending the time to get them built right, not right away.