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New years is coming up and I'm really hoping that you try the anvil shooting Thomas.:thumbup: I will be lighting up my FNFAL with a few mags, but safely pointed into the ground so no one will get hurt.;) We're under a drought again so fireworks are out this year.:sad:
 
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Great post the two of you in all those pictures, you look like a very happy couple.

Reading your thread has become a daily thing for me now and I am, like all the other people, enjoying it every day.
I say thank you for the joy and inspiration :bowdown:

Happy new year to the both of you and please keep posting.
 

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The jack stand storage shelve unit (say that fast three times!) helps keep the barn tidy and works as well as I'd hoped.

J S cubed U
J S cubed U
J S cubed U


I can't believe nobody else thought of this before me!

I claim extra credit on the Inevitable Exam :bounce:

Happy New Year and thanks for all the good times, you two.

Sorry I couldn't figure out how to do a proper exponent.
 

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Thomas and Chris -
Thank you again for another year of great adventures in TCOTU. You folks have a wonderful way of describing the activities and results of every step you take in the restoration and resurrection of a piece of history. We are all richer for the journey.

Wishing you both the best for the coming New Year.
 

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We took one more peek into the Tool Shed and...


Part II - 2012, What a Year it Was.

Thomas

The TOOL SHED!!!! :bounce:

Oh No... :scared:
Don't close the door!!! :(

No holiday treasure hunt in the tools shed??? :headscrat

Oh, Sigh.... It will be off to work again early tomorrow with out the benefit of pleasant images of New Tool Shed Treasures to comfort me... :(

Now I will have to go shovel more snow in an effort to sleep well this evening... :wtf:
 

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Thanks for asking, Vernmotor. It had quite a dent in it and I wanted it to look more "uniform" before depositing it at the bank. Can't have dents on the gold bar! (boy, is gold ever soft...)

Chris
 

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Well, I've now read 2200 posts in the past week or so. While I will be reading to the end, I won't be waiting to post. :)

I actually read what I thought was a great portion of this thread some time ago. Maybe in 2010 when bored at work.

Great job keeping the spirit of the shop while bringing it up to speed for current useability. Just like many here, I enjoy vintage tools and garages and frankly, learning how things used to be done "before my time."

A few items I thoroughly enjoyed were: the vintage cars (nuff said!)

The century-old Philo houses whose style reminds me a good bit of my late Grandfather's, now Aunt's house about a half hour from you

The thought processes you must have gone through to change window and door openings to best suit the shop (I have a strange fascination with architectural things ever since we bought our first home last decade.)

The space and organization, as I could use some of both.

Your addressing of posts as they come in. I've been a forum addict of sorts for over a decade and people's communication shines through in their writing.

Those Walker Greyhounds are sharp, and I don't even pay much heed to form over function most of the time.

As for a few thoughts of posts in those first few 2200:

First letter of your Mitsu VIN is a 1 for Normal, J for Japan. Maybe that has been / was addressed by now. :)

One of those cruise-friends' Cadillacs parked in the new concrete drive at the front of the shop reminds me a bit of a certain 82 Eldorado from the capital city. Maybe not.

I know there are at least a couple designations for tonnage with regard to metric and others. But I'm a little confused on the rating of the Walker Greyhounds. I believe you alluded to a mystery designation change from 784 to 884. Then we have:

Big Boy 4 Ton Roll-A-Car

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No. 884 4000 lb. capacity:

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No. 884 4-ton Hydraulic Roll-A-Car:

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Is not a 4000-lb jack a 2-ton, and a 4-ton an 8000-lb jack?
 
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Well, I've now read 2200 posts in the past week or so. While I will be reading to the end, I won't be waiting to post. :)...


Those Walker Greyhounds are sharp, and I don't even pay much heed to form over function most of the time....


I know there are at least a couple designations for tonnage with regard to metric and others. But I'm a little confused on the rating of the Walker Greyhounds. I believe you alluded to a mystery designation change from 784 to 884. Then we have:

Big Boy 4 Ton Roll-A-Car

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No. 884 4000 lb. capacity:

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No. 884 4-ton Hydraulic Roll-A-Car:

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Is not a 4000-lb jack a 2-ton, and a 4-ton an 8000-lb jack?

Greetings ChevyEFI, thank you for the post and interesting question about the Walker capacity ratings. Those are advertisements from an ad agency and are not generated by the company's engineering deparment and as such might be subject to incorrect ad copy.

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The data plate on my No.784 clears states: CAP 4 TONS which we all know here in the US is 8,000 lb. That matches the first ad from 1939 showing a 4 ton rating as well. The second ad from 1949 states the No.884 has a 4,000 lb rating but then the 1954 ads switches the rating for the 884 back to 4-ton or 8,000 lb. My thinking is the 1949 ad should have stayed in ton ratings and not changed to lbs. Hence the 4 ton rating was transposed to 4,000 lb. Beyond that your guess is as good as mine. Not to offend anyone out there but advertisements are notorious for errors.

ChevyEFI I hope you enjoy reading the last 4,000 or so posts here. :dunno: Otherwise I might be in big trouble for wasting all your time! :D

Thomas
 
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Thomas,
An additional question, are there still warbirds flying over the Champaign area? Years ago (usually on home game weekends), there were a few warbirds that would be overhead. As I recall, there was a Wildcat, a P-40 and an F4U. I had thought of this for years and they have probably been sold and relocated to a new airfield by now.

Thanks

BJ70 those are all owned by Rudy Frasca of Frasca Simulator fame, makers of fixed wing and rotary wing flight simulators.

http://www.frasca.com/

They are based at Frasca Field, Urbana, IL

http://www.airnav.com/airport/C16

and still there (not a F4U though) in his museum

http://rodb.gofreeserve.com/Av09/Rudy Frasca/Index.html

along with a Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVII, a Fiat G46 and others. Rudy by the way, attended the Institute of Aviation here at the University of Illinois.

Thomas
 
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Thomas,
I have been in and out of here for over a year. A very interesting and informative place to visit. I am currently about 10 months behind reading/viewing posts. I usually only have time in the winter months to sit and try to catch up. I will catch up, though.

I am not sure how much I can contribute, but I will stay tuned. Thanks for the place to hang out. I just love old garages. Happy New Year!

Ron

Hello Ron and thank you for updating us. With winter approaching you'll be caught up before you know it!

Curious, is that a Piper Pawnee you're sitting in? I've never done any crop dusting but you guys really earn your living!

Thomas
 
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Third from the left (front) is a Hudson Hornet hood ornament (circa 1948 - 51)

Thanks HotrodHR...

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...not terribly exciting is it? I had thought it from a 1941 Terraplane. Those Hudson's were some of the fastest cars of day, even competing successfully in early NASCAR but that hood ornament just doesn't convey the speed and power of those cars. I've got most of them now identified.

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The flying Goddess though still eludes identification.

Thomas
 
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Perhaps it was one of those aftermarket items used on many vehicles of the era.

Have you found any like this ?
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:lol:

Humm, I'm sure I'd remember that one. No that one still might be at the bottom of the pile in the Tool Shed. I'll let you know. :)

Thomas
 

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BJ70 those are all owned by Rudy Frasca of Frasca Simulator fame, makers of fixed wing and rotary wing flight simulators.

http://www.frasca.com/

They are based at Frasca Field, Urbana, IL

http://www.airnav.com/airport/C16

and still there (not a F4U though) in his museum

http://rodb.gofreeserve.com/Av09/Rudy Frasca/Index.html

along with a Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVII, a Fiat G46 and others. Rudy by the way, attended the Institute of Aviation here at the University of Illinois.

Thomas

Thanks Thomas.

I knew several guys that also attended the Institute out at Willard Field (two were in the professional pilot program and the rest were focused in the A&P program). For me, being in the AAE department left few opportunities to get out to Willard.
 
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Perhaps it was one of those aftermarket items used on many vehicles of the era.

Have you found any like this ?
nickle-duck.jpg

:lol:

Ah, breaker one-nine, this here’s the Rubber Duck. You gotta copy on me, Pig Pen, c’mon? Ah, yeah, 10-4, Pig Pen, fer shure, fer shure. By golly, it’s clean clear to Flag Town, c’mon. Yeah, that’s a big 10-4 there, Pig Pen, yeah, we definitely got the front door, good buddy. Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy…

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Thomas, how far are you from Frasca Field? My son and I like visiting Air Museums and would love to fly down there and take a gander at your place also if you'd oblige sometime.:dunno:
Within jogging distance? lol
 

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Humm, I'm sure I'd remember that one. No that one still might be at the bottom of the pile in the Tool Shed. I'll let you know. :)

Thomas

:lol_hitti Some how I doubt it. :lol_hitti

HOTFR8's "Duck" hood ornament might look right at home atop Gus!

:( no......really ?:headscrat Surely you are not serious :dunno::headscrat

Ah, breaker one-nine, this here’s the Rubber Duck. You gotta copy on me, Pig Pen, c’mon? Ah, yeah, 10-4, Pig Pen, fer shure, fer shure. By golly, it’s clean clear to Flag Town, c’mon. Yeah, that’s a big 10-4 there, Pig Pen, yeah, we definitely got the front door, good buddy. Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy…

:lol_hitti

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Homebody - I sent you a PM - not sure if it went through.

Sweet Old Bill - that duck hood ornament would look out of place on Gus. He's fine without any more "adornment" (although the Federal Beacon Ray might be pressed into service in an emergency).

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Hello Ron and thank you for updating us. With winter approaching you'll be caught up before you know it!

Curious, is that a Piper Pawnee you're sitting in? I've never done any crop dusting but you guys really earn your living!

Thomas
Thomas, That is a 301 Air Tractor. It is sort of an embarrassing large avatar. I really thought it would be smaller.

After 35 years of back and forth flying, I have stopped. My entire career, with the exception of about 10 hours in a borrowed Pawnee was done in Pratt and Whitney radial engine powered ships. And yes, it is harder work than it appears. But is quite enjoyable, to me at least, to watch someone at work over the fields.

I am now up to page 255 of this thread. With a little luck, I may even get caught up to current postings before the calendar changes. Keep up the good work. You cover some very familiar topics and have exposed me to many others. Thanks.

Ron
 
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Thomas, how far are you from Frasca Field? My son and I like visiting Air Museums and would love to fly down there and take a gander at your place also if you'd oblige sometime.:dunno:
Within jogging distance? lol

Homebody we've got two air museums very close by. The largest by far is Chanute Air Museum,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/

...located at the former Chanute Air Force Base in Rantoul, IL. It's a large facility and worth a couple of hours or more to tour it. Aircraft there range from a replica Wright Flyer to a B47, B58 and a B52. There is an airport,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/visitOperations.html

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTIP

...right at the museum you can walk to. That's about 22 miles from Philo. Frasca Field is just 10 miles away from Rantoul and about 12 miles from the shop. I'm not sure how available the Frasca Museum is to the public, just contact them. They're nice folks. If you do make it Frasca, it'll only take me 15 minutes to pick you up and bring you to the shop for a tour. Willard Airport in Savoy, IL,

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCMI

...is even closer to the shop. That'll take me about 10 minutes to pick you up from there. Plan ahead and Chris and I can make it happen, just ask Sweet Old Bill. :)

Thomas
 

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Homebody we've got two air museums very close by. The largest by far is Chanute Air Museum,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/

...located at the former Chanute Air Force Base in Rantoul, IL. It's a large facility and worth a couple of hours or more to tour it. Aircraft there range from a replica Wright Flyer to a B47, B58 and a B52. There is an airport,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/visitOperations.html

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTIP

...right at the museum you can walk to. That's about 22 miles from Philo. Frasca Field is just 10 miles away from Rantoul and about 12 miles from the shop. I'm not sure how available the Frasca Museum is to the public, just contact them. They're nice folks. If you do make it Frasca, it'll only take me 15 minutes to pick you up and bring you to the shop for a tour. Willard Airport in Savoy, IL,

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCMI

...is even closer to the shop. That'll take me about 10 minutes to pick you up from there. Plan ahead and Chris and I can make it happen, just ask Sweet Old Bill. :)

Thomas

What happened to the little airport in the Lake next to Chicago??
Used to see it when flying in and out of Chicago on Commercial craft, always thought that was a really Cool place... Heard it was once a practice field for Carrier landings and take-offs...
 

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What happened to the little airport in the Lake next to Chicago??
Used to see it when flying in and out of Chicago on Commercial craft, always thought that was a really Cool place... Heard it was once a practice field for Carrier landings and take-offs...

Joe,
If you are referring to Meigs Field it is a long and sorted story. Probably best covered neutrally here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_Field

Google it for more politically charged overtones.
 

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Thomas, My 1st post on your thread, I've been lurking here for months, it's been a lot of late nites looking with amazement of the Garage that you've perserved....Keep up the good work, I can tell your garage is your passion....


Mack Trucks never built a factory pick up of a "B" model, there were some pick ups back in the late 1930's that were sold as "Mack Jr's" and were called "Baby Macks" but that was only a few years....
It apears the one here is a B model cab/front clip mounted on a late model pick up chassis, I've seen a few of them done over the years & that one looks pretty good....the rear fenders look like a early Ford perhaps?

The "twin dogs" are someones idea of custom, not factory, nor the spider web grille.....but still cool truck!

Bit of Mack history, Back in the day of the "R" model (70's 80's) there were Chrome bulldogs as well as Brass bulldogs, The trucks that had Brass bulldogs were built with an all Mack driveline, meaning Mack engine, transmission, rear axles/carriers etc...The chrome were used on chassis with "other" engine/transmissions...

Re photo in posting 6042 (second photo on page 303) - I agree the rear fenders look like they are off a 1956 Ford pickup but it looks like they are mounted backward. Still a nice looking Baby Mack!

Thomas - congrats on approaching the 6,200 posting milestone; I was your 5,000th post and that was my very first posting on GJ. You got me hooked on reading about the TCOTU and yours and Chris' exploits - it has now become a daily ritual; grab a cup of coffee and see what you've powdercoated next.:thumbup:

I thought about you and "The Center of the Universe" designation earlier this year - my son married his sweetheart and her hometown of Madisonville, Kentucky has bragged since 1899 that it is the "Best Town on Earth!" Here's a link to the claim:

http://thebesttownonearth.com/

At their rehearsal dinner I gave a toast congratulating him on marrying a gal from the Best Town on Earth and convincing her to move to the Best State on Earth (Texas). ha

Have a Happy New Year!!!
 
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Homebody we've got two air museums very close by. The largest by far is Chanute Air Museum,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/

...located at the former Chanute Air Force Base in Rantoul, IL. It's a large facility and worth a couple of hours or more to tour it. Aircraft there range from a replica Wright Flyer to a B47, B58 and a B52. There is an airport,

http://www.aeromuseum.org/visitOperations.html

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTIP

...right at the museum you can walk to. That's about 22 miles from Philo. Frasca Field is just 10 miles away from Rantoul and about 12 miles from the shop. I'm not sure how available the Frasca Museum is to the public, just contact them. They're nice folks. If you do make it Frasca, it'll only take me 15 minutes to pick you up and bring you to the shop for a tour. Willard Airport in Savoy, IL,

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCMI

...is even closer to the shop. That'll take me about 10 minutes to pick you up from there. Plan ahead and Chris and I can make it happen, just ask Sweet Old Bill. :)

Thomas

Thanks, we went to Chanute a couple years ago and enjoyed it. My son needs to put in some long distance flights (he's the pilot) so I thought Frasca and your place would be a good trip.:thumbup:
I'll keep you posted.

Don't get me or my son started on Meigs Field. Personally think Daley should have ended up in the river over that deal.:mad:
 

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Just had a peak through the 310 pages of this thread- what an awesome job! Stealing some ideas from here myself lol
 

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Thanks HotrodHR...

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...not terribly exciting is it? I had thought it from a 1941 Terraplane. Those Hudson's were some of the fastest cars of day, even competing successfully in early NASCAR but that hood ornament just doesn't convey the speed and power of those cars. I've got most of them now identified.

IMG_1924.jpg


The flying Goddess though still eludes identification.

Thomas

not very good at this game but i was watching barret jackson this morning and they had a 48? cadillac come through and i think it had one similar to this. not sure but might lead you in the right direction
 
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What better way to start the new year than by wrapping up a project from the previous year(s)? These are a few last details on the Barn Bench, BB.

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I sealed the area between the bottom of the bench and the floor with backer rod as seen above. It comes in many different diameters, is inexpensive and is compressible to fit.

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Here I used a wood paint stirrer to push the backer rod into place. You need to use something relatively wide and blunt to push the strip, otherwise it'll just poke a hole in the foam. I used different thickness pieces of wood depending on the area that was being sealed. When done...

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...it completely seals small areas which prevents items from falling under and being lost. To seal the area behind the back splash on top...

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...Morton makes these foam strips.

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They match the profile of the interior steel siding perfectly and also have adhesive on them to hold them in place.

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Additionally they incorporate these interlocking tabs to further help seal all the strips together.

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That results in one long continuous sealed strip.

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Here's the inside corner which was tapered and had to be trimmed to fit.

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This is how the tricky airline area looks when done. It sealed up nicely.

For the ends of the bench...

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...I used larger rectangular foam blocks...

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...trimmed to fit. Now the area behind the bench is completely sealed to keep objects from falling back there and it also keeps spiders from making a home back there.

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I wanted a nice, tight fit on the door gaps when they were closed. However doing that would make the doors bind together when opened or closed. To solve that...

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...I used the jointer with the fence set on a shallow angle to relieved the gap opening on the back edge only, leaving the front gap tight when viewed from the front.

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Felt pads from Chris's picture framing shop were attached to the top corners to keep the doors from banging when shut.

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Since I used 7/8" (2.2 cm) thick Maple drawer fronts...

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...the screws that came with the drawer pulls (on top) were a little too short for my liking. When the original screws were installed there were only a couple of threads engaged so I substituted longer screws to make the pulls more secure and lessen the chances they would loosen up over time.

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Because these new screws had smaller diameter heads I also placed washers on them to prevent them from being crushed into the wood when tightened up. (stop squinting, yes they're clocked! ;))

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I used 200 lb (90 kg) full extension, ball bearing drawer slides.

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These are deep drawers and that makes them much more useful by being able to easily access the back of the drawers.

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To further protect the top finish from harm (the top has 6 coats of Varathane floor finish, the cabinets below have 5 coats of Watco Danish Oil) I decided to use...

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... 2 pieces of 3/16" (.47 cm) thick Polycarbonate sheet, sized to match the two top butcher blocks.

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My plastics supplier felt this would be the best, most durable material based on how I would be using the bench.

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The edges were "eased over" and...

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...the outside corners slightly rounded.

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A view when looking at the edge.

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The high gloss surface is not especially to my liking but with time I'm getting use to it. Everything is a compromise, the world is not a perfect place, and to protect the top this was my compromise. I just hope whoever owns that bench 100 years from now will thank me. :D

That now concludes this portion of our program. I've got a SPOUSE bench out in the barn still in the works. I'll post on that one in the future. Thanks again everyone for last year. It was fun for me and apparently for you too. Let's see what new adventures the coming year will bring us, shall we?

Ever Optimistic Thomas
 

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Different handle styles? That and Thomas apparently didn't see the need to 'book match' the drawers/doors? I think we could let him slide on this; after all, it is just a work bench! Albeit, the finest crafted and finished work bench I ever laid eyes on!
 
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