Finally getting to build a detached garage/shop!!!

[CarCrazyRDM]

Yeah, Nutts is right... it's just those five bricks, the rest are cinder block. I remember seeing this myself and asking him about it. If I recall, it wasn't because he ran out of cinder block, it was just the size of the hole he had left was easier to fill with brick than cutting a block to fit. It was going to be covered in concrete on three sides so I didn't figure it mattered.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Well both plumbing and electrical have been moving along slower than I had hoped for but I'm getting there little by little. With the help of a buddy I got the drain line run from the garage over to the septic. This part I could have done by myself but where I really appreciated his assistance was with all the additional digging and the extremely aggravating task of driving a piece of conduit under my sidewalk. Red clay is a ***** to dig and work in!!!

Thankfully the electrician I had put in a new panel at the house and run power over to the detached had already trenched a lot of what we needed done but there was still a lot of "adjusting" to be done. I had hoped to have water supply lines run over to the house as well this weekend but we ran into some "issues" with how we were going to do it and now I'm just going to wait until and inspector comes out to inspect the drain line and the electrical in the garage and get some input from him for what my options may be. Then I also plan to run a gas line over, as well as some CAT6 cable.

And while I've been working on wiring up the garage for weeks I finally got the panel all hooked up and everything pretty much "finalized"... I think, lol. But hoping to get an inspector out this week and then I'll continue moving forward with plumbing ASAP.

 

[HRJoe]

Looks good man. I'm trying to get ready for my rough inspection too


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[texasranger]

Were the GFI breakers at the bottom mandatory? I hope prices come down on those soon!

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Were the GFI breakers at the bottom mandatory? I hope prices come down on those soon!

Yes on at least one of them, which will have outlets in/around my sink. The other two, which each contain an exterior outlet, I could have gone with a standard breaker but then I would have had to run GFI outlets. And while those are cheaper than the GFI breakers the cost difference wasn't enough for me to feel like I might as well have the extra protection on all the rest of the outlets as well. And I had several electricians tell me that GFI breakers tend to fail far less often than GFI outlets.

 

[SB440R/T]

Getting closer faster. Funny story though, we got to the house to check it out today and there was a couple walking out. Apparently they have been checking out the build since it started going up. We had a good conversation, they are building in Myrtle Beach.

Anyway, siding done. Still needs some trim, gutters, and shutters.

Bathrooms

Master

Reading room

Kitchen

 

[richtersrodz]

Our builder did that, when we built our custom home out in the country. They told us that they paraded 3-4 different couples in and out of our place showing off their work. Funny thing is, that like a year later, a house popped up in town, by our builder, that I swore the people copied our house, just trimmed some off so that it would fit on a smaller lot. One Christmas, the house was on a tour of homes, so my wife and I got to walk through it. And sure enough, the people even copied some of our decorating, and fixtures.. lol

 

[SB440R/T]

That is actually how we found our builder, we walked though one of the houses he built. But we coordinated with the owners.

 

[KDXSR5]

Thank you for posting your build CarCrazyRDM. I am looking forward to updates!

 

[Mason007]

Wow, great shop, brickwork is awesome. I'll definitely be reading up about the epoxy floor as it's something I want to do in my place this summer. Im already regretting how much stuff I've moved in there and will have to move out! Also, my little guys were the same as soon as the concrete went in so did their bikes and push cars.

 

[Remythepug]

Updates [emoji106][emoji106][emoji41]


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[CarCrazyRDM]

Yeah, sorry for the delay on updates. Mostly that is due to the fact that pics of wiring and plumbing aren't all that exciting. But I have finished up wiring now (I think, lol) and plumbing is done as well as insulation! I've got a sub ready to go on the drywall in less than two weeks and hopefully paint soon after that! Merry X-mas to me!

In addition to electric and plumbing I also ran speaker wire to all four corners of the garage and another line under the stairs where I might put a sub. And you may see some blue "hoses" in a few of the below pics, those are my hard lines for my air compressor. I used Maxline products to do this, which seem to be well reviewed on this site as well as a few others. You can find more details on this setup here:

http://www.rapidairproducts.com/page/maxline

But I installed my compressor connection under the stairs and then I have a port at the back left corner of the garage (where the lift will be), another at the right front corner of the garage, and another roughly centered in the ceiling where my "industrial-grade" Klutch hose reel will be mounted. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200658515_200658515
It wasn't cheap but it is definitely a solid piece of equipment, much better than my current Craftsman one, got great reviews and is something I hope lasts many years to come.

My plumbing will consist of a large stainless steel sink I found surprisingly at Home Depot (18ga and came with a decent faucet as well for like $250) mounted in a 5ft cabinet, also from HD I think, and then I'm going to have 3ft of overhang on the counter top for extra space. Basic idea is here:



You can see where my water lines come up in some of the other pics. Then I put a dual handled hot/cold spigot on the side of the garage and another cold-only spigot out back. The hot already came in handy this season for washing the dog and cars the other weekend when it was chilly out.

The only thing I think I've added since these pics were taken is I built framing around the bottom of the stair landing and an access door as I plan to close this in and then sound-insulate it to the best of my ability to isolate my compressor. I also added a few pieces of wood that will be necessary to create a little cubby underneath the stairs along the back wall at the edge of the landing. I plan to put a stereo here and probably have a little charging station for batteries.

Oh, I did also add wiring and elec boxes for three ceiling fans. Picked these bad boys up and think they will look and perform well for their price and intended use.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B1C8Q6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You're probably done reading now or you skipped it all together but on to the majority of the pics...

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Oh, something else fun I did was 3D scan the garage before the insulation went up. For those not familiar with this process, the scanner is a machine that uses a laser to scan and create millions of points (accurate down to something like a millimeter) and then overlays images that it also takes on top of those points. Then in a computer program I am able to move around and look at anything from any angle and more importantly measure between any of these points that I like. Hence it will give me the ability to determine exactly where a wire or hose is in the wall 5 years from now if I've forgotten or if I need to know an exact dimension. AND it just looks cool as hell.

I'm lucky in that I have access to this scanner via my job. They are quite expensive but are a very powerful tool depending on your field of work. Anyway, below are a few screen captures from the scan and then also a quick, and very poor quality, video of how it looks on the screen in "live" mode.

Here is the scanner itself:



Here are some screen shots. Everything you see there is a colored data point. You can see some of that along the stair railing in the third pic.






And video (I can't seem to figure out how to get the video to be embedded in this post so you'll just have to click on the link if you want to check it out):

http://vid34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/CarCrazyRDM/Detached Garage/20161130_133157_zpswge4dkkf.mp4

 

[HRJoe]

Good updates! I've since caught up with you on my build (I used much of your advice)...I need to start a thread some time when I feel like I don't need to spend every free moment in the garage!

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Good updates! I've since caught up with you on my build (I used much of your advice)...I need to start a thread some time when I feel like I don't need to spend every free moment in the garage!

Thanks and I know the feeling, lol.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Drywall ordered! Guys come to install next week! And hoping to have it painted the week after that but this may depend on cost. TBD

 

[Z06Joe]

Very nice setup!

 

[zmotorsports]

Nice setup. Looks great behind your home. Excellent curb appeal.

Mike.

 

[-Brent-]

Nice setup. Looks great behind your home. Excellent curb appeal.

Mike.

I agree. As well, you still have a great amount of space in the back yard.

Nice job, overall.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Thanks guys.

 

[jrob56]

Great build, just working out of my standard 2 car, but already have the same stipulation you had with the wife. 3 car garage or enough land to build one.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

A couple little updates...

I added appropriate framing to close in under my stairs. I'm going to put my compressor under there and then sound-insulate the area to the best of my ability to keep the noise down.



Then I also added some 2x8's and 2x10's to a few sections of the walls for various things. My main work bench is going along the back wall. Then in the back left corner I plan to hang yard tools and some power tools, so I mounted those boards a little higher. And then over on the left side by the man door I added a few in/around where my sink is going to go.



And the plastic was put down in preparation for the drywall delivery and beginning of installation today!!! They hope to finish the sheetrock tomorrow and then mud/tape may take into Wed or possibly Thur. depending on the weather and how fast/slow things dry. Can't wait!



My son helping me finish up in the dark last night.

 

[texasranger]

I noticed there was no vapor barrier over your fiberglass batts. Did you add it after the pictures?

It was in the high 20s here over the weekend. So happy I insulated last year, I'm sure you will be too!

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[CarCrazyRDM]

I noticed there was no vapor barrier over your fiberglass batts. Did you add it after the pictures?

The short answer is no, I choose not to add a vapor barrier. Between what research I did, common building practices in this area, and what my contractor and insulation company recommended I decided it was unnecessary.

 

[HRJoe]

Looking really nice! You'll appreciate all that insulation and finish work in the end.

 

[HemiRamOn22s]

The short answer is no, I choose not to add a vapor barrier. Between what research I did, common building practices in this area, and what my contractor and insulation company recommended I decided it was unnecessary.

The Tyvek is your vapor barrier actually if installed correctly. So you're fine. The wall needs to breathe.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

The Tyvek is your vapor barrier actually if installed correctly. So you're fine. The wall needs to breathe.

That was part of my justification. Others have argued differently. I wasn't trying to get too deep into it here though, there are plenty of dedicated posts on this forum and info on the net about it.

 

[HemiRamOn22s]

That was part of my justification. Others have argued differently. I wasn't trying to get too deep into it here though, there are plenty of dedicated posts on this forum and info on the net about it.

Everyone thinks their an expert becasue they read it on the internet. There is also alot of conflicting information and you have to sort through the BS. You'll be fine.

 

[Dave_Car_Guy]

Wow, the new drywall really lightens things up in there. I've really enjoyed reading through your build. It's going to look fantastic with the new paint and that great floor! Have you decided on the interior color? Also, do you know what you are doing for the window coverings? (I ask because the windows are high up and hard to get to...I have been very happy with my Somfy battery-powered automatic window shades that go up and down using a small remote attached to / hung on the wall).

 

[audioworks04]

Love the build. Exactly what I am looking at doing if I could find a house with the room for it on the lot. What are your plans for lighting?

 

[dirt_dobber]

looks awesome. Great idea about putting the under stairs area to use!

 

[texasranger]

That was part of my justification. Others have argued differently. I wasn't trying to get too deep into it here though, there are plenty of dedicated posts on this forum and info on the net about it.

It's one of those subjects that you ask 3 people and you'll get 4 different answers. I was just curious what your approach was!

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[ambenz]

Nice digs! I like everything you are doing.
I imagine you garage is going to be worth as much as my home, if you built it up here.
Thanks for sharing your experiences on the build!

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Wow, the new drywall really lightens things up in there. I've really enjoyed reading through your build. It's going to look fantastic with the new paint and that great floor! Have you decided on the interior color? Also, do you know what you are doing for the window coverings? (I ask because the windows are high up and hard to get to...I have been very happy with my Somfy battery-powered automatic window shades that go up and down using a small remote attached to / hung on the wall).

Thanks Dave. And yeah, I can't wait for paint either. Actually I scheduled that today... getting done next Monday!!! I'm nearly certain I am going to do gray from somewhere around the bottom of the windows to the floor with a black stripe above that and then white everywhere else. I thought about going more bold but I want to keep it somewhat neutral but still have a little character. And I chose the flake colors in my floor based on that color scheme (b/c they are black, white and gray) but I could certainly do a blue stripe or a dark green on the bottom of the wall and still have it look good I think. After the walls are all done and the mess cleaned up this weekend then I'll be able to judge better exactly what I want to do.

As for window coverings... I may not do anything. I originally thought about doing a frosted film on them but as you pointed out I had them installed pretty high so I'm not overly worried about it for security purposes. We'll see once everything else is done. But if I choose to put up some kind of blind or "cover" I like your motorized idea.

Love the build. Exactly what I am looking at doing if I could find a house with the room for it on the lot. What are your plans for lighting?

I've got 19 dual four foot LED bulb fixtures upstairs just waiting to go in! I've been wanting to put these bad boys in for months but just didn't make any sense to put them up to have to take them down for drywall. So I've been very impatiently waiting, lol. Although I think I may only be using 16 of those fixtures downstairs... the other three will likely go upstairs. My layout plan is three rows of four fixtures evenly spaced out running length-wise and then two fixtures on either end running perpendicular to the others.

It's one of those subjects that you ask 3 people and you'll get 4 different answers. I was just curious what your approach was!

And TX, don't think I was "attacking" you for asking... it's just is one of those subjects as you describe and I didn't want to start a whole debate about it in this thread so I just kept my response short and sweet.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Well I didn't make it home until well after dark tonight so I don't have any great pics of the additional drywall work done today but below is one poor photo. Not as immediately as impressive as the difference made yesterday but a lot of detail work was done today. Other than more mud/tape they are mostly done with hanging sheetrock. They've got just a little more detail work in my cubby under taller section of the stairs and then apparently there was some miscommunication about running drywall up along the sides of the steps but they are going to add that tomorrow.





Other than poking a couple of wires through the sheet rock that I specifically asked them to leave buried and I would fish out later exactly where I wanted them (they're going to patch and fix these holes tomorrow) the only thing I found that I was disappointed about today was some scratches in my floor. They got a drywall screw wedged under my door underneath the stairs and it gouged the floor pretty good.

I was pretty pissed when I first came across it... the door was kind of half opened and wouldn't move forward or backwards. I thought maybe they had stood on the door or something and bent the hinges etc but then I discovered the nail. It's probably hard to judge the size of the scratches in the below pic but they're at least a foot long. Anyway, it looked much worse at first because sheetrock dust was all wedged into the scratches and I thought it was all the way to the concrete. But after I took a wet rag and wiped it down it wasn't nearly as noticeable. I let the bossman know and he was very apologetic and said he'd take a look at it tomorrow. I told him I was going to mess with it tonight and depending on how it turned out, or didn't turn out, I'd let him know how I wanted to handle it. But it'll be fine and I'm just glad it was under the stairs and not in the middle of the garage floor somewhere.



I'm excited to see the final steps over the next couple of days and even more get them out of there and clean the place up. Then it'll be paint time!

 

[texasranger]

And TX, don't think I was "attacking" you for asking... it's just is one of those subjects as you describe and I didn't want to start a whole debate about it in this thread so I just kept my response short and sweet.

I didn't perceive any sort of attack, no worries at all.

***** about your floor. Hopefully they make it right. I'd be scared to have a floor that nice for fear of scratching it all to hell, welding spatter, etc. But man does it look sharp!

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

I didn't perceive any sort of attack, no worries at all.

***** about your floor. Hopefully they make it right. I'd be scared to have a floor that nice for fear of scratching it all to hell, welding spatter, etc. But man does it look sharp!

OK good, just wanted to make sure it wasn't misunderstood.

As for the floor, overall it's pretty tough stuff but it doesn't like sharp/thin objects applied with a lot of force, lol. With that said, it has still seemingly been pretty resilient to scratches. Only time will tell. The good thing is with the flakes it hides a lot of imperfections. I know this from my last garage floor which I slid many a jacks across, dropped rearends, transmissions, engines, etc in and on and even after 8 years it still looked damn good. I hope this holds up as well, or better honestly. To be determined.

 

[Dave_Car_Guy]

As for window coverings... I may not do anything. I originally thought about doing a frosted film on them but as you pointed out I had them installed pretty high so I'm not overly worried about it for security purposes.

Yeah, it seems you have no security issue with them being so high. So you'd only really need something if there was a sunlight issue. And with that, a nice window film goes a long way toward shielding UV light. The paint scheme sounds great!

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Just some more finish work today. I think they hope to complete mud and tape tomorrow and then come back on Sat. and sand everything down... assuming it's all dry by then. I hope so because paint is planned for Monday.

 

[CarCrazyRDM]

Well it was a big day today... drywall and paint are complete!!! Ultimately I am very pleased with it all. The drywall guys did a fantastic job as did the painters. The gray looks darker in these pics than it is (it was getting late and it was overcast by the time I got home and got the plastic that was covering the floor up). Although it is a little darker than I had anticipated I do really like the color. And now that I can finally get some lights up I will remedy any issue with "darkness."

I haven't fully decided what I am going to do with the steps yet. I don't know if I am going to finish them, just paint the bottom flight gray and the top flight white, I may paint them all black, and I may paint the bottom handrail gray. Still to be determined. But in the time my painter had allotted for the job he didn't have time to spray the face of the steps and then have them dry enough to still be able to get to the walls up above them, so I just told him to spray the railings and I'd mess with the rest. I'm open to suggestions or preferences as to how to handle them.

Anyway, on to the pics. The floor still has a lot of drywall and paint dust on it here but you'll get the idea. Here is one pic before any color went on and it looked like an operating room:



And here is with the gray on the bottom and black accent stripe complete: