Ah, I bet this is where the $67 back-in-points is coming from. I thought it was item-specific.
Sears.com hot deals and clearance thread
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Ah, I bet this is where the $67 back-in-points is coming from. I thought it was item-specific.
chaosracing
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Wild Wins Wednesday For those that play the SYW points games... Here's a couple extra codes for the game, it gave me a little a 3 times.
https://goo.gl/3MwlT2
WedWinDay
GR8NewYr
codes do not work
XJPat
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Gr8newyr does and at 6 pm eastern it is a door buster didn't try the other yet.
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EOC_Jason
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Same happen when using a dollar off coupon.
You can get a slight boost if you do the SYW Max Trial (if you haven't done it already) and pickup in store. Otherwise you get free shipping most of the time.
PeterT
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WhatAmIDoingWrong
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Not a hot deal, But I think the Valley View Sears in Roanoke is going to be gone soon, also the last one in driving distance for me. Overheard a current employee talking to a former one. The 5 year lease on the store is up before the end of this year and nobody there thinks it's going to be renewed. I don't think the tool department has been restocked in close to a month, looking kinda empty. 
That's interesting, why is that? Do you not like the large upper anvil, or the rear-facing 3rd jaw?
I have a 6" Chinese-made Wilton with the 3rd-jaw design, and although I've never reversed the jaws, I do rather like the upper anvil.
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PeterT
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I suppose its the old school in me talking, the Yost 204 is just the right size for me. I believe I have one of the 880s, stored somewhere here in the shop, the fit and finish doesn't seem anywhere near as nice as the 203, 203.5, and 204. The 204 is a traditional vise that will last just about forever.
The 808 looks a little too 'universal' for my tastes. But that is just my opinion. Yost makes a great vise, and I believe all are made in Holland MI other than their chinese made line and I would not recommend them.
EOC_Jason
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I noticed the decal set is priced at only $13.25, not a smoking deal but not horrible either if you need some assorted CMan decals...
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-decal-set/p-00949240000P
I hope they do that $20 price w/$20 in points deal again, buy a ton of stickers, then buy what you want with the points... lol.
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-decal-set/p-00949240000P
I hope they do that $20 price w/$20 in points deal again, buy a ton of stickers, then buy what you want with the points... lol.
Tellingthem
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Finally got my Olympia workbench put together. Took about 3 hours total. I spent some time making the frame level and plumb so that took awhile. Really not bad for $40. There are still some out there. I don't see them on the Kmart website anymore but my store still has 2 so may be worth stopping by your local one if you are interested.
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It's not on the current list. The only one in Virginia on the list is in Bristol.
WhatAmIDoingWrong
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I know, it might not be until closer towards the end of the year. My guess would be 5-8 months. A lot of the stuff in the tool department is either gone or they only have one or two left. Some of the clothing racks are gone too.
Richard Cranium
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They may not be on the list, being they are not owned by Sears, That is a private owned store selling for Sears. The owner of the franchise maybe closing.
EOC_Jason
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That's very true too... Franchise stores aren't listed in the corporate store closings...
2manytools
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There is a Home-Town store I was in that was closing shop. The associate told me that after they closed, they would be re-opening elsewhere (actually close to a now-closing full-size sears). I have a feeling the franchise owner couldn't have been any closer to the existing store, but now that they are closing, the territory is now open.
Richard Cranium
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most likely
rickhigginshtbr
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I've noticed in my old Sears Hardware store, that isn't closing anytime soon, that they're not being restocked on some lines. They just have a mountain of old stock from other locations that closed. Hillman hardware, for example. They've been OOS on a few sizes here and there, and have mountains of other sizes still. Same thing with some items that used to come in from Orgill.
2manytools
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Gladiator Premium Welded Steel Rack Shelving Unit for $150
77" Wide x 72" High
and I'm showing $15 in points
77" Wide x 72" High
and I'm showing $15 in points
a52-830
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i have three of those. they are excellent storage racks. that is what i paid for them, although there was something funny, as i recall, since i wanted three, so i ordered one, and got it for about 140$, then ordered the second after receiving the note that the first was available for pickup, and the second was about 135$. waited, did it again, and the third was just under 130$. something funny with points. i have run into that before when buy several of the same thing.
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Wow. Thanks for the tip on the gladiator rack price drop again. Already have two that I purchased and while ago at $149 and just bought another one tonight with tax for $109 AND they are giving me $45 in points! WOW! I did use $37 of my points and used $12 in suprise points. Think I will see if the price holds for little bit and buy another one if I get more surprise points in the next few days.
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I believe the points you got back were the 20% back in points on orders over 100 so that will not duplicate next time, also your points spent cost you some of that 20% back.
2manytools
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I prefer keeping my real money, even if I get more sears "monopoly" points, unless I know the points will be spent on something that is rarely discounted right afterwards.
I did lose $2 in points back by using my points on the order. I thought it was worth it not to use my money. Oddly enough I went back in and it was going to let me get all the points again if I ordered another one. Not sure if I would actually get them but I went all the way to the last screen to buy it again and it showed getting $47 back in points. I will try it again tomorrow and see if it shows the same thing.
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Yeah sometimes they are weird when the original order has not been processed (although if the points from that order show in your account, then there is a better chance it is real that you will get them on a second order)
a52-830
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put one in your cart and leave it there. i dont know, but i believe this causes them to offer you points quicker.
Super Sport
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Not that hot of a deal as it was regularly on sale for $40-45, but it is now on clearance:
Craftsman C3 19.2-Volt Wet/Dry Vac
$39.88
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-19.2-volt-wet-dry-vac/p-00917598000P
Craftsman C3 19.2-Volt Wet/Dry Vac
$39.88
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-19.2-volt-wet-dry-vac/p-00917598000P
a52-830
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wow, i rarely go below 100$, and sometimes crest 150$. there is always 50$ towards appliances, 25$ for shoes, 35$ for clothes, and 15$ or 20$ for "household stuff". then, there is 20$ on 200$ or more. recently i had 12$ on a 20$ or more purchase, and 10$ on a 30$ or more purchase.
they desperately need someone to fix their algorithms over there. . . . . maybe if they did, they wouldn't be bleeding money.
I'm at a lowly $5.00 in surprise points.
I'm pretty sure that the generosity of your surprise points offers is determined by the margin on previous / recent purchases. Thus, the lower your surprise points, the better you are doing at buying for the lowest amount possible. Just my theory!
I'm pretty sure that the generosity of your surprise points offers is determined by the margin on previous / recent purchases. Thus, the lower your surprise points, the better you are doing at buying for the lowest amount possible. Just my theory!
That would make too much sense. I disagree. I really don't think they track profits per customer. I get a lot of stuff for free or very little money.
I usually get at least one 7 off 7 purchase a week and with a 5 month old at home an outfit if found on clearance can be free. I don't get a lot of the 10 off 10 anymore though.
a52-830
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ouch
i have thought that it was based on the amount of time since your most recent purchase. if you maintain your status as a current customer, they try to keep you active, which is smart, it is easier to keep a customer than attract one.
i notice that as the time since my last purchase increases, the deals get better. the few days after i buy something, it isn't even worth opening the email.
lordy123
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ouch
i have thought that it was based on the amount of time since your most recent purchase.
I'm pretty certain it's a custom algorithm based on the data they keep on you as a consumer. If you did figure out the formula it'd be at least three pages long and only apply to you.
2manytools
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Sounds like an actuary problem. no real answer, but you have to justify how get to your answer
lordy123
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I'm a systems engineer, my other half does web marketing and SEO. I've built these things and seen them built.
For example, recently I programmed(Built, I should say, I'm not a coder) an IVR to grab your phone number, and figure out who's on the other side and what their on hold ads would be. You'd be amazed at the data available from just a phone number, web has so many other identifiers available...
It'd be like someone speculating how slot machines work, exercise in futility IMO.
a52-830
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(*cough*). in this context, an algorithm would, by definition, apply to everyone.
i agree that they are allocating surprise points based on their best effort to maximize profits. they are likely trying to figure out what discounts to offer individuals in order to get them to buy stuff to maximize profits, not sales.
dont confuse the two. some companies think that driving sales at all costs will lead to profits. smarter companies realize that there is a magic spot where they are maximizing profits. if they charge less, they will sell more, but make enough less per item that they will have lower profits. if they charge more, they will make more on each sale, but lose total profits from less sales. you see this with gas stations on the opposite sides of divided roads. one will be five cents more per gallon. they know that people will pay it, for what ever reason. they guy on the other side of the median knows that they won't pay that much more on his side.
as an aside, i had a friend in Louisiana who farmed with draft horses. he had 160 acres. all his neighbors had over 1000 acres. he had a few horses, and kept 16 acres for growing their food (hay and grain). he had a bunch of old farm equipment, which he could fix himself. every 5 years or so, he'd pay 100$ to the guy three towns over to get one of this mares bred.
he told me that in the fall, at the "annual grange supper", he would compare notes with the guys who were working 10 or 20 or 30 times as much land as he was. he found out that while he "made" a lot less, he "ended up" with about the same amount, because he didnt have huge payments to John Deere, and the mechanic, and the fuel dealer. he was also paying a lot less for "outside help", cause he had a lot less to do.
like the others, he drive a few year old pickup, and the wife had a sedan. they lived in a nice little house, just like everyone else.
and he got to spend his days talking to the horses, not cursing at the tractor.
returning to the cold technology that surrounds us . . .
having played games balancing networking protocols for maximum throughput, i can tell you that the algorithm for something like this is more than three pages, and is likely approaching not being completely understood by one individual. there is a small group who understand it all, and they likely argue about what effects changes will have, and whomever is wrong ends up buying lunch.
of course, when they are wrong, you find 55$ winton hand sledges on amazon for 18$, with free shipping (as posted on the amazon deals thread before christmas).
big data is a very cool place to play, if you are bent in specific ways. if amazon was smart, they would buy sears when it fire sales, just to use it as a place to fine tune their own algorithms without hurting their own system. hell, for all i know, they already secretly own some small online vendor where they do exactly that.
woodturner9
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They do track profit per customer, and that information is available to the SYWR reps. If you call with an issue, and your profit is not above a certain threshold, they won't make adjustments. If your profit is sufficient, they are very generous with correcting issues and awarding "good will" points.
2manytools
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Are you just referring to being a Silver or better member? They have faster phone times, and they did (when I was silver) seem a little more helpful in situations. I don't think they do track, because I can guarantee I am not a profitable customer, and they continue to send me un-profitable promotions (as many can attest to).
The gas company makes more off me driving to Sears, especially after the closest Sears closed by me, so I need to plan that trip out now to the next one.