OEM Briggs $60 replacement the carb same as $15 ebay/amazon?

[Skin]

Dude, settle down, let it go.

This thread has benefited me and many by drawing attention to inexpensive replacement carbs on ebay. Take the win and have a beer.

Don't placate a child. I can just picture him sitting in an armchair with a Milwaukee tool in either hand alternating running one or the other angry that his little crusade didn't pan out. He even went to the trouble to try to position the float pins in the same spot to try to "fool" everyone.




In other news check out these sweet Milwaukee 18V batteries.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RQPRYC6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I bet they're IDENTICAL to the ones branded Milwaukee for wayyyy less. Milwaukee probably produces batteries only a couple days a week and then the same nice employees in China make these and sell them to us for nearly half the price! Stupid Milwaukee trying to fool us. Not me!

 

[kctyphoon]

Don't placate a child. I can just picture him sitting in an armchair with a Milwaukee tool in either hand alternating running one or the other angry that his little crusade didn't pan out.

Its the m12 stubby, and m18 mid torque, with my high visibility Milwaukee t shirt on, and the hard hat light on my head just for fun.

When people start demanding to see the BOWLS - you’ve already lost..

You’re WASTING your money on the OEM “REPLACEMENT” Briggs..

You’re welcome.

 

[Skin]

I dont know what devious ideas you thought were going on in my mind but I was merely curious if one was steel. Simple as that.

As I said back on page 2 of this silly thread

Im not going to argue that a $60 or even a $40 small engine Carb made in China isn't price gouging

 

[kctyphoon]

I dont know what devious ideas you thought were going on in my mind but I was merely curious if one was steel. Simple as that.

As I said back on page 2 of this silly thread

Remember what i said about false equivalencies -

Actually THIS is what you posted:

“ The castings are junk, the QC is non-existant, and they use Chinese carburetor insides most times where the Briggs plant uses US manufactured gaskets, floats, needles, and jets (most times). Use whatever you want but step off your soapbox over whats made where because you have no idea what you're talking about. End of discussion.”

But i guess thats kinda like saying “i was merely curious if one was steel” ..

Listen - if you wanna spend an extra $50 or more on a cool B&S box, youre welcome to, its your money. The POINT of this thread was youre NOT getting anything extra for the money.

Hang on - my fake m18 battery is dying..

 

[Bretny]

The best cheap replacement carburetors are California take offs. Dealers frequently need to remove a 49 state carb and replace it with a low hp, low reliability CARB compliant version in order to sell a tool in CA. Look for the OEM carb on eBay listed as a new take off.


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That makes sence! I was wondering how this ebay sell that sold 204 genuine stihl carbs for $19 each had so many. Hes still got "more than 10". Some one must have horded them because the fs45c week eater is not a new machine.

Il look for carbs from CA now. Thanks for that info.

 

[upper_tanker]

I maintain my fathers fleet of lawn equipment. Up until about a few years ago, I'd fight and fight with $20-$70 carb rebuild kits for his Redmax 2 stroke equipment. Sometimes they'd work, sometimes they wouldn't. New carbs usually run around $100, give or take, which is about 1/4 of the cost of an entire new machine, in most cases.

I did a ton of research about these before we tried the first one out. The general consensus from everybody was that the diaphragms are made out of inferior material that will fail sooner than later. I figured what the hell, $15 for a carburetor that came with new fuel lines, new rubber grommet, new gaskets, and a fuel filter was more than worth the gamble.

Since then, I've probably replaced 5 of the two stroke carbs with the off brand ones with ZERO issues. These are machines that run 89 octane, for 5+ hours Monday-Friday in the non-snowy months. I've had zero issues with said diaphragms. I've also put one on a 4 stroke Subaru/Robin power washer engine, and another one on a Toro Timecutter zero turn, without any issues. To me, it's a no-brainer. We now keep at least one spare of each different type stocked for the 2 stroke equipment.

 

[CR888]

Its bad information to say 'ALL' small engine replacement carbs from China are from the same factory with quality that meets OEM. This is simply not true. 4 stroke float carbs are a lot simpler than all position diaphragm carbs and while companies like Stihl who own Zamma produce their carbs now in China, many of the clones are totally different inside, different low fuel circuits, air bleeds, no accelerator pumps etc. In the OP's case the clone may well be near identical & perform fine. But this is not always the case for every piece of equipment. In some cases like the OP's I'd utilise a cheaper alternative but for a diaphragm carb used to earn a living on an all position 2T carb I'll mostly use OEM. For those inept in the art of rebuilding a carb, cheap replacements can be great. It just depends, it can be a total **** shoot too.

 

[Handyandy23]

I don't even disagree that the knockoff / Chinese / eBay carbs are the best value! I would almost certainly say they are. As upper_tanker says you can order 2 and keep one as a backup and still be pretty far ahead.

Maybe it was just poor semantics, but from how I read it from the beginning of the thread, the assertion was that the carbs are exactly the same (minus some PN and B&S stampings) and likely come from the same factory in a nicer box. That's an assertion that I don't believe.

Maybe I misunderstood the point that was trying to be made, but to me there is a difference between arguing two products are identical (and a company is purposely misleading or price gouging) and arguing that a knockoff is better value.

Call it 'false equivalency" or whatever you like, but the M18 battery example above is spot on. Is that fake M18 battery the exact same as a 'real' Milwaukee battery and made in the same factory? Of course not. We can't see all the differences, but everyone with half a brain can assume that the cells and internals are probably of a lower quality. It would be ridiculous to argue that they're the exact same.

On the other hand though, it would be totally plausible to argue they are better value. If you're buying them for a lower price than the real M18 batteries with the knowledge that they likely won't last as long, but you think the performance to price ratio makes more sense, that could be reasonable. There will certainly be counter-arguments (nobody pays full price for the batteries, you can buy them used, get them in kits, etc etc) but it's not such an immediately laughable assertion to make.

 

[GirchyGirchy]

Dude, settle down, let it go.

Have you never seen his threads? He gets off on arguing about Milwaukee, HF, carbs, etc...

 

[kctyphoon]

Have you never seen his threads? He gets off on arguing about Milwaukee, HF, carbs, etc...

Yea - you just described 98% of the people that post on the forum..

Or would you describe your contribution as you "rising above it"?

 

[ezover]

thought I would give a update on my 15.99 china carb on a 14hp Kohler motor from the 80's.

throat was slightly smaller, other then that bolted right on. had to grind and drill linkage holes but I knew that had to be done, they did not offer the style I had.

fired right up and the best this yard tractor has run since I bought it off a scrapers truck about 10 years ago. I bought a rebuild kit when I got the tractor and I think it was more then the carb.

 

[dwasifar]

Based on this thread, I ordered this carb and filter kit for my Honda mower from China through Amazon.

Perfect fit, mower runs like a new engine, didn't need to make any adjustments. Started on the first pull. Sixteen bucks. And it got here from China in 11 days.

 

[JRC3]

^
I just looked on ebay and that same kit starts at 13.86 on ebay and locaed and shipped in the US. Bunch of others in the $15 range and received by the 24th.

 

[dwasifar]

^
I just looked on ebay and that same kit starts at 13.86 on ebay and locaed and shipped in the US. Bunch of others in the $15 range and received by the 24th.

Good to know.

 

[JRC3]

I ordered another carb this week. $26 for a 2bbl. Here's a side by side comparison.

Came with plugs and fuel filter but I didn't use them. And a ton of gaskets I'm guessing for different applications.

 

[JRC3]

Only problem I had was it wanted to idle too high. I could push the throttle by hand to get it down, but it was sticky. Turned out the throttle lever was hitting the threads on the stud. A simple pry with a screwdriver for "adjustment" and it purred like a kitten. Went right out and mowed the back yard with it.

I did have to reroute the solenoid wire. No big deal.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

[lilredex]

Another satisfied customer, bought a #799583 carburetor for $14.88 CDN, started on the first pull. Took five weeks to arrive.

Same as original B/S carburetor less the markings.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/3829515658...::&pgrp=main:email&e=cl&mchn=em&s=ci&mail=sys

 

[C4VETTE]

The real question is why are you wasting time fixing a Briggs motor in the first place! Lol!

 

[kelpaso1]

No the real question is why people say a Briggs, or a Tech, or a Kohler engines are junk? As long as they have some type of oil in them, they run forever. I have never seen an engine self destruct unless they were run out of oil. Carb problems yes, if you park it for 3 years with old gas in them, but that's not the engines fault.

 

[Handyandy23]

I've always had good luck with Briggs engines. Tecumseh not so much.

 

[lilredex]

I've always had good luck with Briggs engines. Tecumseh not so much.

Had good luck with both right back to my 1961 Simplicity/Tecumseh 3 1/2 HP blower. Keep oil in them and they do go forever.

 

[JRC3]

No the real question is why people say a Briggs, or a Tech, or a Kohler engines are junk? As long as they have some type of oil in them, they run forever. I have never seen an engine self destruct unless they were run out of oil. Carb problems yes, if you park it for 3 years with old gas in them, but that's not the engines fault.

Quoted for accuracy and truth.

Look at Kohler, thought of as decent quality. One of the ebay carbs I did was on my Courage...Why do Kohler Courages have problems? Because the valve cover leaks. And what happens when a valve cover leaks???

Oil is life, period.

 

[b7labelle]

I've always had good luck with Briggs engines. Tecumseh not so much.

The Tecumseh on my Toro DEATH BLOWER 5000 runs like a champ!

 

[joe_pinehill1]

I have an isavetractors.com carb on a K301 on my Gravely 812, running good for 4 years.

 

[C4VETTE]

No the real question is why people say a Briggs, or a Tech, or a Kohler engines are junk? As long as they have some type of oil in them, they run forever. I have never seen an engine self destruct unless they were run out of oil. Carb problems yes, if you park it for 3 years with old gas in them, but that's not the engines fault.

Briggs would never be my first choice, but I have one on my Snapper snowblower and it runs like a champ! Just poking fun!

 

[JRC3]

Bought my fourth carb for my old Tecumseh powered Craftsman snow thrower. I've had this thing since I was 28 back in 1998. I tore the carb down last winter and cleaned it but it never ran quite right but got me through the winter. This year it barely ran with the choke 3/4.

$7.99 to the door. Ordered on the 5th and delivered on the 11th. Installed it today and it fired on the 3rd pull. Idled as it should. Won't be able to fully test till we get some snow but I don't expect any problems.

As usual, comp pics.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Carbur...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

[kctyphoon]

Thread is almost a year old.. I wonder how all the knock offs will be doing this spring..

 

[mike93lx]

Wow, you guys buy a lot of carbs. I've never even had to take one off a small engine. Maybe I don't own enough worn out junk?

 

[demarpaint]

I've bought the knockoffs for Briggs, Tecumseh, etc. and even my 11HP Honda power washer, compared them to OE from a local small engine repair shop and couldn't tell the difference. I buy only the knockoffs. Years ago I'd rebuild them, in many instances it doesn't pay for me to do that now.

 

[JRC3]

Thread is almost a year old.. I wonder how all the knock offs will be doing this spring..

I'll bet just fine considering I stopped using ethanol gas. That **** is like cigarettes to small engines.

 

[Parrothead]

Thread is almost a year old.. I wonder how all the knock offs will be doing this spring..

For $8 and no headache, who cares?

 

[kctyphoon]

For $8 and no headache, who cares?

Ya never know - maybe the “inferior quality” float pin gives out?

 

[JRC3]

Ya never know - maybe the “inferior quality” float pin gives out?

You might be onto something...I pulled the bowl on the first one I bought. The pin was made out of bamboo.

 

[mooman]

Wow, you guys buy a lot of carbs. I've never even had to take one off a small engine. Maybe I don't own enough worn out junk?

You must not have any ethanol in the gas you’re using. Around here it’s tough to find gas without it.


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[mike93lx]

You must not have any ethanol in the gas you’re using. Around here it’s tough to find gas without it.


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Every piece of gas powered equipment I own has ethanol in the tank. E10 is standard around here.

I just don't leave gas in the carbs.

 

[signcrafter]

Thread is almost a year old.. I wonder how all the knock offs will be doing this spring..

I've bought half a dozen or so knock off carbs and all are doing just fine. Some a couple years old now.

Here's my theory on them, the big names here sent production overseas along with all the design and tooling. So the chinese run their order of how many ever and then take out the number stamping and run a few ten thousand or so more to sell as knock offs. It's probably the same thing. Think about it, briggs pays 10 bucks a carb and sells it for 40. So production cost is probably 3 bucks and knock off just doubles the price and calls it good. All of mine have fired right up with no adjustments and ran just fine.

 

[DGersic]

No the real question is why people say a Briggs, or a Tech, or a Kohler engines are junk? As long as they have some type of oil in them, they run forever. I have never seen an engine self destruct unless they were run out of oil. Carb problems yes, if you park it for 3 years with old gas in them, but that's not the engines fault.

I bought a used yard vac with a Tecumseh 5HP engine. No history on it. Ran for about an hour, then shredded the camshaft. Had oil in it when I got it, and I had changed the oil before starting it.

The 10HP Tecumseh on my snowblower is still going strong, though.




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[DGersic]

Thread is almost a year old.. I wonder how all the knock offs will be doing this spring..

Doing fine here. Have bought a few, they all work as well as the originals.



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[2Busy]

For those who have trouble finding ethanol-free gas, there’s a free iPhone app “Pure Gas” that will locate stations selling it near you. Not sure if there’s an android version but I’d expect so.

 

[seber]

I've put Chinese carbs on Honda, Kawasaki, and Kohler command engines. In the case of Kawasaki, the Chinese carb was cheaper than the Keihin rebuild kit. They all work. Occasionally you might get a little hunting at idle. If it bothers you, you can drill out the idle jet to the next size. Most small engines almost never idle anyway. If you count labor then the Chinese carbs are always cheaper than rebuilding. In my case I do it because people put regular gas with ethanol in the tank and leave it over winter without draining the carb. No choice at that point.