Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

[snapmom]

Some handikits. Some examples.
Years ago, all the cats had not been found, so there was debates as to how these sets were laid out.
Top two are black, bottom two are od green, the left green has been repainted, also the middle of the three master sets as been repainted

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Snapmom,

I was referring to the small folding toolbox with the external cantilevers. These "Hanidkits", as Snap-on called them, were made for Snap-on by Duplex in three sizes: No. K-9 (Junior), No. K-10 (Senior), and No. K-11 (Master). I have a K-9 that has been re-painted red. I've been thinking of refinishing it in OD green. That's why I was asking if yours was grey or OD green because it's hard to tell. If it's grey it had a lot of olive in it. If it's OD green, it has a lot of grey in it.

 

[snapmom]

Oh!! never mind.

Here are all three, the small is a dark green, middle is like od green. large has been repainted using Rustoleum camouflage deep forest green. I have not found a match for so green. Dates, the middle has a sticker, does not have made in usa does not have embossed snap on name.. so probably mid to late 30s. the big one has made in USA stamp. and so name prob. 40s. not sure of the small one could be early 30s. the hinges on the small are different than the other two. There may be some black ones out there. They make great tool boxes, and also storage boxes
Also there are some red ones that show up in the UK, but they may be later made.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

They make great tool boxes, and also storage boxes.

Yeah they do! But I am a huge fan/aficionado, so not exactly objective on the subject.

Duplex made them for their in-house sales as well as for customers (Goode, Snap-on, Old Forge, others...) in Sherman, NY from 1932 to 1958, when they suffered a fire and were bought out by Pendleton Tool Industries, Inc. and moved to Arkansas.

I have three Duplex boxes, but only one branded Snap-on. They were listed as "battleship grey duco enamel" in all Snap-on catalogs between 1933 and 1937, and "grey enamel" from 1938 to 1948, but we know they were OD green during the wartime years.

My red K-9 is definitely a re-paint. Here is a link to an earlier post where I showed what I suspect is the "battleship grey duco enamel" exposed under the hinges. I hear you on the hue of the Snap-on OD green. Very tough to match. I have a wartime 3/4-inch drive box that I am going to use as a model. Look how grey it looks in your photo with all the grey boxes. And yet it's green. Lots more olive and black in it than yellow. Dark OD. Love the color. Thanks!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

... repainted using Rustoleum camouflage deep forest green.

I don't know if you've ever seen my "Barn Find" look restoration thread, but I use techniques with several different shades to wash over the top of a couple different base coats to try to match one of the classic wartime OD greens (33070, TM 9 Shade 8), which are both much greener/yellower than Snap-on's OD green. I don't use Rustoleum Camouflage Deep Forest Green as a base coat specifically because it's so dark, but it is a very good choice for Snap-on OD green. Your Master Handikit looks great.

 

[David Jackson]

I have an older, somewhat rusty, possibly WWII socket, LDH-362, 1&1/8 hex, 3/4" drive, old style with the little push button, and I am wondering when it was made. AA has photos of lots of these but they all have knurling above the size band and mine has none. There is a sort of stylized 3 after the A of U.S.A. and I am wondering if that means 33, 43, or maybe even 53. This socket is not chromed, cadmium, or black oxide as far as I can tell. Thanks, experts!

 

[redtop]

I am not an expert on Snap On tools. I know enough to be "dang'rous," which is a reference to Alexander Pope's "An Essay on Criticism" for you literary nerds in GJ land. I will be happy to share my humble opinion. The socket appears to have a 1953 date code.

 

[redtop]

While we are on the topic of sockets and date codes, I own a 1/2 drive No. 412 socket that has 5 date codes: 1930, 1931, 1933, 1934, and backwards 1934.

Does anyone have a Snap On tool with 6 or more date codes?

 

[snapmom]

Never seen that many

 

[David Jackson]

Hi Redtop,
Thanks for your expertise.
Well that looks like the right symbol identification to me. Any idea why no chrome? Postwar military maybe, Korean War era? And, how long did the little pushbuttons continue, they aren't used on the new 3/4" drive sockets are they?

Regards,

DJ

 

[redtop]

The date codes on these two 3/8 sockets do not appear in the Snap On date code table. I believe the F221 was made in 1955, and I believe the F261 was made in 1959.

Please post pics of your Snap On tools with unusual date codes.

 

[redtop]

Here are pics of sockets with the usual 1949, 1955 and 1959 date codes.

 

[redtop]

Hi Redtop,
Thanks for your expertise.
Well that looks like the right symbol identification to me. Any idea why no chrome? Postwar military maybe, Korean War era? And, how long did the little pushbuttons continue, they aren't used on the new 3/4" drive sockets are they?

Regards,

DJ

I will allow the true Snap On experts on this site to answer those questions, including but not limited to snapmom, OTG, Pvt. Lugnutz, and Lesserson.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

My 3/4 drive collecting is pretty much up to ww2. I suspect snapmom may be our leading expert here!

 

[snapmom]

Looks like most the chrome has been removed by rust. Not sure if or when they stopped using a pin.

 

[d42jeep]

My 3/4 drive collecting is pretty much up to ww2. I suspect snapmom may be our leading expert here!

If I have a question about Snap-on, I ask Snapmom.
-Don

 

[David Jackson]

Hi SnapMom, There is so much rust that I wondered if there had ever been any chrome! It's a real rustbucket all right. And the little pins, are they still being used?

DJ

 

[snapmom]

Looks like it
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-on-3-4-Drive-12-Point-SAE-1-5-8-Flank-Drive-Shallow-Socket-LDH522/362953094725?epid=1522113825&hash=item5481b0b645:g:MfoAAOSw9sheJ1Ra

 

[redtop]

I have found that Snap On tools with two date codes are scarce, and tools with three or more of them are very scarce. If you have any Snap On tools with multiple date codes, please post pics of them here. I would like to see them.

I own a 3/4 F70N ratchet with two date codes: 1945 and 1946.

Here are pics of a 3/4 F71C ratchet with three date codes. It is currently listed for sale on ebay. It's not mine. The 1958 date code is stamped over the 1957 date code under the selector switch on the head of this ratchet. The 1963 date appears on the body. Here is a link to the ebay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-On-3-8-ratchet-F-71-C-lot-CG/303417094570 According to the collectingsnapon website, the F71C was manufactured 1953-1958.

 

[redtop]

I need your help again. According to the collectingsnapon website, the newly designed 3/4 F71 40 tooth ratchet was manufactured in 1948. I cannot find an image of one online. Please post a pic of your 1948 F71 ratchet if you have one or if you can find a pic of one online.

Here are pics of a 3/4 1949 F71A I recently purchased. The seller indicates that it has 40 teeth. I wonder if it is as smooth as my Bonney T707 "sweetheart" ratchet. Currently, the Bonney T707 is my favorite vintage 3/4 ratchet. I have posted a pic of one that sold recently on ebay.

Please share the make and model of your favorite vintage 3/8 ratchet.

 

[redtop]

Does anyone have an opinion regarding the round head 3/8 FR42 ratchet? This one sold recently on ebay. Note the unusual 1949 date code. It has the same ratcheting mechanism found on the 1/2 L67, like the one R_Olson_06 recently purchased (See post #2177 on this thread.), nice find, by the way.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I have found that Snap On tools with two date codes are scarce, and tools with three or more of them are very scarce. If you have any Snap On tools with multiple date codes, please post pics of them here.

This subject has come up several times before. I don't collect past WWII, so I haven't paid too much attention to it happening in the 50's, or why, but a lot of the multiple stamps show up just before and during the Great Depression. I have a few of them, including a 1929, 1931, and 1933 triple, posted a few times before on this thread, the last time linked here (see Pic 4).

 

[redtop]

Thank you for posting the link, Lugz.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is a ‘30/‘31 socket and a ‘29/‘30/‘31 ratchet.
-Don

 

[redtop]

Thank you for posting the pics, Don. I like the ratchet. Do you have the plug?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thank you for posting the link, Lugz.

No problem. Your 6-coder is the most I have ever seen. Contact Guinness!

 

[redtop]

It has only 5. I will wait to find one with 6 before I contact Guinness. Until then, maybe I'll drink a Guinness, or two.

 

[d42jeep]

Here are a couple of wartime sockets with two date stamps and another rusty oldie. No plug on the old ratchet, unfortunately.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It has only 5. I will wait to find one with 6 before I make the call. Until then, maybe I'll drink a Guinness, or two.

 

[redtop]

Here are a couple of wartime sockets with two date stamps and another rusty oldie. No plug on the old ratchet, unfortunately.
-Don

Thank you for posting additional pics of your multi-date code sockets, Don. I hope you find a plug to fit your No. 7.

There is a No. 7 currently for sale on ebay with two date codes: 1929 and 1930. Here is the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223927529973

 

[snapmom]

Here is a F71 with a 48 code, I had to put a new kit in it. The F71x series has 30 teeth.

 

[redtop]

Thank you so much for posting the pics of your 1948 F71, snapmom. I am happy to see that they do exist. I was beginning to wonder.

 

[redtop]

The first 3/8 F70 ratchet pictured below is marked with an unusual date code, a hyphen followed by the number one (-1). The second F70 ratchet pictured below has the usual 1931 date mark (an asterisk).

I welcome you to post your Snap On tools with interesting date marks here.

 

[snapmom]

Sometimes you see the -1, sometimes you see 29 for 1929

 

[redtop]

Sometimes you see the -1, sometimes you see 29 for 1929

The collectingsnapon site indicates that SO began to manufacture the F70 in 1931. I am surprised to see that SO used both the asterisk and the -1 to indicate the date of manufacture in 1931. I have seen images of several Boxockets with the 29 date code. Below are pics of a pair of early Blue Point Boxockets that are currently listed for sale on ebay. One of them has a 29 date code. The other has a 6-28 date code. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Vintage-...562530?hash=item4b7641abe2:g:RkwAAOSwmnFd0bGA According to the AlloyArtifacts website, Blue Point began making these wrenches in 1927. http://alloy-artifacts.org/snapon-bluepoint-tools.html#box-end

One of the sockets pictured below has a 1928 date code. The other has a 1927 date code.

I don't believe that I have seen date codes on Snap On or Blue Point tools for 1920-1926. I encourage GJ members to post pics of their Snap On or Blue Point tools that have a date code of 1926 or earlier. I would like to see them.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

27 was first year for date codes

 

[redtop]

Thank you for letting me know, OTG. I know that the date code table begins with 1927, but I wondered if there may be earlier marks out there.

 

[snapmom]

There were lots of changes in the 20s, so usually you can get a good idea of, early, mid, late.

 

[redtop]

Re: Snap On U.S. Military Marked Tools

Several U.S. Navy marked Snap On tools currently are for sale on ebay. An image of one of them, a USN marked socket, appears below.

I have attached an image of a U.S. marked A-2 adapter to this post, as well. I do not recall seeing another "U.S. marked" tool for sale on ebay. I have attached an image of an A-2 adapter that has a G date code. It is marked "Made in USA," as well. Also, I have attached an image of an A2 adapter that has no date code, U.S. marking, or Made in America marking.

It is my understanding that Snap On made numerous tools for the military during the war years in the 1940's. I also understand that model numbers of the majority of the tools made for the government begin with a G prefix, such as the GM7 socket. An image of one appearsbelow. I presume that Snap had intended that the 1944 and 1945 date codes be stylized versions of the numbers 4 and 5, respectively. Does anyone in GJ land know for certain when the E and G date codes were created and what the stylized number date codes for 1944 and 1945 would have looked like before they were presumably changed to letters?

Are "U.S. marked" Snap On tools currently commonly found for sale on ebay and elsewhere? Do collectors seek them out, and do collectors pay a premium price for them? Please share your thoughts. I welcome you to share pics of your U.S. marked tools here. You are welcome to share pics of your military tools that are not "U.S. marked," as well.

 

[snapmom]

"I also understand that model numbers of the majority of the tools made for the government begin with a G prefix, such as the GM7 socket."

this probably is incorrect. the G tools started in about 37 and some into the 60s.
Most of the E G date codes were made for the military, but some were sold to the public

The E codes were probably 43-44 with G being 45. 43 codes are hard to find.
There are collectors who only collect E G, but the supply is large, so usually they sell for less.

Most of the military tool after 45 have a V in the model number, but not all, the V slotted wrenches are probably not. (except for BP)