Provincial
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I used a slightly more modern version of the window shade machine to cut wooden rollers to length and press the new end on. That was over 50 years ago!
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I used a slightly more modern version of the window shade machine to cut wooden rollers to length and press the new end on. That was over 50 years ago!
r_olson_06
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The KD pliers on the left is a mopar door handle tool. Worth almost what you paid for the lot.
Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench
3baygarage
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R, you’ve been killing it on these ratchet finds lately!
Shelby, that’s one heck of a haul getting there early. I see a diamond W Williams ratchet, a Proto key driver, and lots of cool stuff. What make is the self adjusting wrench?
Lugz, i recognized your ratchet as a Keystone drill right away.
Shelby, that’s one heck of a haul getting there early. I see a diamond W Williams ratchet, a Proto key driver, and lots of cool stuff. What make is the self adjusting wrench?
Lugz, i recognized your ratchet as a Keystone drill right away.
Private Lugnutz
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Figures!
I had never seen one before. I posted pics in the Keystone thread.MercLSU
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From what I understand these were used for soap in gas station type settings. I've gotten some good news in the last week on a potential move to a larger shop so I may keep these for soap / sanitizer (this is 2020 after all). Given their vintage (60s-70s) I don't think they'd have been used for much else. Perhaps an eye wash station?
I've never seen the can opener myself in the wild. Those are Tyler squirrel nut crackers. One has been brazed it seems, but both work.
You ****! Great find. Listas, Vidmars, Lyon, etc. cabinets like that are awesome and will last a lifetime and beyond.
Smokeshow69
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I have some gold Chrysler master tech award sockets and wrenches
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duddly
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that Thor grinder is sweet! I have seen a number of odd "ground 'em if you got 'em" plugs on power tools from the period when not all outlets had a ground pin. It is always amusing to see.
r_olson_06
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Thanks. Means alot coming from the ratchet king.
Any time. Glad I could help. I just sold a pair of them for $45ish I remember right.
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Old Radar
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By what stretch of the imaginaton is that monster "Portable"??!!
Some disassembly required...
Outlawmws
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By what stretch of the imaginaton is that monster "Portable"??!!
Looks are deceiving - it's only a 1/3 HP....
Thank you, 3BayGarage. Please see the picture attached.
It's Instant Grip from West Germany. It does not have any springs and is adjusted by hand. It's much simpler than the one I bought earlier in July for a dollar (at the top of other picture)
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Thank you, r_olson_06. After the tools sit in garage for a week, I will probably clean it up and consider selling it on ebay to partially recover my recent spendings. I always fall in the hole of buying more tools, thinking about selling some and eventually convincing myself to keep them just in case : )
Old Radar
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Boy, do I know the words to that song!
Do you guys remember these adapters? Unbelievably, they're still sold. I remember the ones with the little wire that was meant to be connected to the center screw of the outlet. Not sure what good that would have done if the outlet wasn't grounded.
Seemed like most people didn't know that, didn't use it, and/or just cut them off.
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Welcome to September! As we enter the last third of the much-maligned Year2020, it’s time for a Picker-of-the-Year update.
The August roundup boasts...
9 “*****” for Davefr for three remarkable Crafty heists
6 “*****” for pelletman, acknowledging varied finds
5 “*****” for r_olson_06 for Plomb-heavy bargains
4 “*****” each for tin medic, bmwrd0 and 3jakes
3 “*****” each for b.well, David99, WNYflyer, freudianfloyd and alinc100
2 “*****” each for ShadowRuleZ, Provincial, Ryan_340, Oregon_rock_crusher, jeffmoss26 and Cruzan80
1 “****” each for Lprock, toolmiser, MercLSU, TOTO, duddly, Outlawmws and ozaudio!
WOW! So much suckage! Congratulations to all, for nimbly netting so many deals in awkward conditions.
The August roundup boasts...
9 “*****” for Davefr for three remarkable Crafty heists
6 “*****” for pelletman, acknowledging varied finds
5 “*****” for r_olson_06 for Plomb-heavy bargains
4 “*****” each for tin medic, bmwrd0 and 3jakes
3 “*****” each for b.well, David99, WNYflyer, freudianfloyd and alinc100
2 “*****” each for ShadowRuleZ, Provincial, Ryan_340, Oregon_rock_crusher, jeffmoss26 and Cruzan80
1 “****” each for Lprock, toolmiser, MercLSU, TOTO, duddly, Outlawmws and ozaudio!
WOW! So much suckage! Congratulations to all, for nimbly netting so many deals in awkward conditions.
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duddly
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somewhere I have a power tool with cord that had a fold down ground pin for whether the socket had the ground pin or not. But here is another from that time period.
You can actually use the cord and the ratings to sort of date the tools. This is off the top of my head so probably not accurate.
Early tools were marked for AC and/or DC use while the standards had not been set. 1900-1930 mostly. ??
These various with or without ground wire plugs 1930 to 1955 ??
Voltage specs - 110, 115, 120 - not sure when these changed
I have been using power tools at our family cabin for the past month using those exact adapters without incident. The cabin is wired with two conductors. The boxes are not grounded, and the receptacle slots are identically narrow (only the “hot” slot is narrow on more modern outlets), so I have to use adapters from before the “neutral” prong got wide, or cut the “neutral” prong down to fit the narrow slot. Some equipment is designed to distinguish between “hot” and “neutral” potential, but a lot of older equipment is not.
Do I like it, or consider it “safe”? NO. But...
The function of the ground is to provide an alternate route in the eventuality of a fault (alternate to your body). Unless there is an actual fault in your equipment (in which case, don’t use it - get it repaired), the “ground” should never carry current.
The only equipment I’ve seen malfunction because of a missing ground is electronics. The touchpad on my work laptop was really erratic, and I eventually discovered the culprit was a broken-off ground prong on the charging station cord.
The “neutral” and “ground” conductors in much 115V residential wiring are at the same (ground) potential, and inside the circuit-breaker panel they are connected to the same buss.
I am not an electrician, I am not disparaging the wisdom of the electrical code, and I am sure real electricians will see errors in my conceptualization or terminology. But those adapters have their uses, and the various iterations of “grounding” wires in mid-century equipment only look different from one another - functionally, they’re doing the same (redundant, and usually unnecessary) job.
As far as screwing a ground to the faceplate...historically, you’re probably right - no benefit, as residential wiring generally doesn’t have metallic sheathing, and older 2-wire installations don’t have a “ground” wire. But in newer 3-wire installations, the box (if metallic) and the receptacle (even 2-slot ones) should be grounded. Also, commercial wiring does have metallic sheathing (conduit), and when properly installed, is grounded. That’s probably the thinking behind some of the outmoded grounding options we see on older equipment. In some residential wiring, the old natural gas lines (e.g. for gas lamps) were repurposed (after being disconnected) and may (or may not) function to similarly ground the converted fixtures (just don’t count on it).
Again, I am not an electrician, so fact-check me. I’ll gladly delete this post if anyone objects to its contents. I’m NOT advocating “taking chances” with such a potentially deadly resource.
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Definitely. Since I've started restoring antique radios as a new pandemic-hobby, my back-of-the-envelope observations are as follows.
110VAC is probably 1930s-ish or earlier
115VAC or 117VAC would be 1940s-1950s.
Seems by the 1960s most stuff was 120VAC.
Not sure when polarized plugs became "mandatory" but probably 1960s or later judging by some stuff I have.
As for grounded outlets, later on. Heck, when I moved into my current place, I had to replace someone's handiwork of just slapping three-prong outlets in the old boxes and not (1) connecting the ground wire or (2) using a "self-grounding" outlet that has the spring to make contact with the box (assuming the box is bonded to the ground).
You hinted at the function of a ground conductor - it is to provide a LOW IMPEDANCE, RELIABLE path to ground in the event of a malfunction. The idea is that the grounding conductor is never used in normal conditions, so it does not "wear" from either heat or electrolytic action.
If the neutral is the only path to ground, it could build up enough resistance/impedance that your body could provide the legendary Path of Least Resistance to ground.
So here are two lots I won in my first online bid style estate sale. One lot I won by accident....lol. There were just two items that caught my eye for Lot1; won auction for $13. It's the big wooden toolbox of tools that was very messy. Amazed the box hadn't fallen apart; looked like some things lived in there. Lot2 is the cardboard box of tools; won auction for $1.25.
The two items that caught my interest in Lot1 were the 10" Craftsman wrench and yankee screwdriver. That completes my Crescent Wrench set (6", 8", 10", 12"). No branding on the yankee screwdriver that I have found. Handle needs to be refinished but it functions well. Any ideas on the brand?
The cardboard box of hammers was an accidental purchase. I was testing the site and how many boxes/confirmations would come up when making a bid. Didn't think it would finish so low. I thought it was a pipe wrench in there but the jaws are flat. Did someone flatten them? Not sure but I like it. The little hammer/nail puller combo is cool too.
What's the thing with rollers? No idea....lol
Good mix of USA brands and some unbranded items. No brand on the yellow handled chisels, the channel locks, or the needle nose pliers. The group shot on the floor is after I cleaned everything up
The two items that caught my interest in Lot1 were the 10" Craftsman wrench and yankee screwdriver. That completes my Crescent Wrench set (6", 8", 10", 12"). No branding on the yankee screwdriver that I have found. Handle needs to be refinished but it functions well. Any ideas on the brand?
The cardboard box of hammers was an accidental purchase. I was testing the site and how many boxes/confirmations would come up when making a bid. Didn't think it would finish so low. I thought it was a pipe wrench in there but the jaws are flat. Did someone flatten them? Not sure but I like it. The little hammer/nail puller combo is cool too.
What's the thing with rollers? No idea....lol
Good mix of USA brands and some unbranded items. No brand on the yellow handled chisels, the channel locks, or the needle nose pliers. The group shot on the floor is after I cleaned everything up
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duddly
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...What's the thing with rollers? No idea....lol
Good mix of USA brands and some unbranded items. No brand on the yellow handled chisels, the channel locks, or the needle nose pliers. The group shot on the floor is after I cleaned everything up
The thing with the rollers is a knife sharpener.
Nice assortment. Some neat pieces in there!
So here are two lots I won in my first online bid style estate sale. One lot I won by accident....lol. There were just two items that caught my eye for Lot1; won auction for $13. It's the big wooden toolbox of tools that was very messy. Amazed the box hadn't fallen apart; looked like some things lived in there. Lot2 is the cardboard box of tools; won auction for $1.25.
The two items that caught my interest in Lot1 were the 10" Craftsman wrench and yankee screwdriver. That completes my Crescent Wrench set (6", 8", 10", 12"). No branding on the yankee screwdriver that I have found. Handle needs to be refinished but it functions well. Any ideas on the brand?
The cardboard box of hammers was an accidental purchase. I was testing the site and how many boxes/confirmations would come up when making a bid. Didn't think it would finish so low. I thought it was a pipe wrench in there but the jaws are flat. Did someone flatten them? Not sure but I like it. The little hammer/nail puller combo is cool too.
What's the thing with rollers? No idea....lol
Good mix of USA brands and some unbranded items. No brand on the yellow handled chisels, the channel locks, or the needle nose pliers. The group shot on the floor is after I cleaned everything up
“Yankee” looks Bridgeport to me. Adjustable is probably “automotive” rather than “pipe” jaws. Roller thing is a knife sharpener.
Edit - dang, duddly, ya beat me.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Nice to know what things are and where they came from. Any obvious brand for the chisel set?
The two biggest chisels are branded (craftsman and stanley) the rest are not. I think they are a nice set, need to be sharpened, some blades have nicks, the **** of the handle is metal.
IDK, the color scheme looks Bridgeport again, but I’d expect the blades to be stamped w/logo.
Edit - no, I don’t see that sturdy style in the catalog (don’t see that “yankee” either)...Don’t see them in Miller’s Falls, either...sorry.
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spike99250
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The chisels are probably Stanley, slight chance they are Buck Bros
r_olson_06
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Haha. I did that for several years and come to the realization I have to much and there is other people who love this stuff just as much and most times more than I do.
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RTM
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Yup, agree with this, I have both in similar colors
I agree spike. The biggest chisel does say Stanley on the handle and is the same style as the rest of them. The big one does have more of a grip on it but other colors and construction seem the same. I think all the tools are pretty old.
Did you see that maybe 3ft homemade wooden toolbox with a pipe for a handle?
I am use to seeing some branding on tools. USA, China, Taiwan....a company, something. I usually say if it doesn't say USA the it isn't (I know there are exceptions). I wonder about these channel locks and dykes.
I hit a very moldy sale and got some good items. Most of the basement was so moldy and the stink hurt but I lasted long enough to fill a cooler and run home to shower. This is the best stuff from the haul, not to bad as the tool room was sealed off from the mold fest. The bicycle pic shows how bad the rest of the place was. I was out the door after parting with $50 he didn't even look in the cooler, just wanted **** gone from the house.
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Smokeshow69
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That sears gun cleaning kit and the wright aircraft medal is pretty cool!
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bmwrd0
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Wow, that is a nice haul! Is that a .38 S&W? I love the bicycle pics too.
Iver Johnson safety hammerless. I didn't check cal. yet it prob a 32.
Here is the other picture.
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bmwrd0
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Very nice! And in your honor, a well deserved you ****!
WisJim
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The yankee-style screwdriver looks like a Craftsman made by Millers Falls to me,
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