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just put a sketch together and have a machine shop turn you some tools.

The C'man wrenches are still very good. Apex Tool Group(Formerly Danaher) is very stringent on the QC with all of their wrenches. Go get yourself another one and don't look back.

Thats the only for sure thing I've read in this entire thread..

They aren't identical. Although yes made by the same company.

Somewhere in TX... :bounce:

why 50psi? I would think a bilge pump would probably work well.

Actually the combination wrenches come out of Arkansas, ratcheting wrenches come out of Texas. But yes regardless, Armstrong does come out of the same plant.

More than likely, wrenches that don't fit snugly in the packaging are kept for open stock. I forget what the packaging looks like but I am sure beam thickness plays a part in how tight it fits.

The added trouble cleaning up the forge trim lines on a wrench that has a forged "bend" in it doesn't always outweigh the operation of bending/coining it. A robot can do a peripheral grind on a flat forging much faster than a coined one. :thumbup: Oh and there is no difference in strength so...

It's a great marketing strategy isn't it, unfortunately that's false. The historic ball detent in the socket is actually fairly expensive machining process. Bits are pricey and wear out quickly, so they incorporated it into the heading process. Some people like it, personally I hate it.

Good point. This is due to the design of the forging itself. The napa has the angle on the box end forged in where the craftsman is bent after forging.

There is no difference between a matte finish Napa vs. a Kobalt vs. KD other than the stamps. Once you get into the full polish wrenches the wrenches are different from a craftsman pro, mainly in length.

The "Napa" is simply a stamp change in the machine vs. a Craftsman, KD, Armstrong, etc.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6D911 For a direct replacement. They sell numerous sizes.

**** does happen but as we all know, you don't purchase made in the USA anymore because it's light on the wallet.

Ok I got a chance to look at the pictures. First pic is unacceptable and a cosmetic defect of that magnitude should have been caught by one of our operators during machining. The second pic of the bent tappet: I'll be honest, that defect shouldn't have made it out of the plant although you...

I am at work currently so I can't view the pictures but am currious to see what the parts look like. :confused: I will more than likely hear about this issue from the top down. Once I get home I will view the pictures and comment on the issues.

From the look of the SO design and their box end angles and finish, they are bent after forging, not during forging.

I thought I would throw my .02 in. Overseas companies have the ability to produce high quality parts if that's what the customer wants, but most customers going to them are looking for one thing, CHEAP. Not in all cases but in a lot. The ultimate quality of a socket is derived from design...

There are wrenches on the market that have the bend forged in and others that bend it after being forged. Forging the bend in isn't necessarily stronger or better, it's just different. Either of them perform the same duty. Bending the wrench after forging probably does induce some stresses...