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Surprised Norseman was so far down on this thread... By far and above the best! I'd go to Epstein's though! www.harryepstein.com

Most rivets use a wire size drill depending on the rivet size. Common rivet drill sizes #10, #11, #20 or #30. Shouldn't need a punch with the right size drill.

That's for CNC applications where they basically making a dimple. This guy is trying to drill holes with a hand drill or press. A center punch works fine for 118 deg and no need for one if you have a 135 deg split point. Never any need for a pilot drills that go's all the way through the piece...

See picture. Just trying to help a noob not make the same mistakes as you. google center drill. Every link you go to off that calls this a drill & countersink combo

So why wouldn't they make the "pilot drill" 135 or 118 deg like the regular angles of drills?

Norseman - 800-328-4655 Any drill bit manufacture will tell you exactly what I'm saying. You're just wasting money on a pilot drill. And the "pilot hole" drill everyone keeps posting pics of isn't a "pilot drill" its a countersink.

Yes, its better than nothing, so is spit and water. The main purpose of cutting lube is to keep the drill cool, not reduce friction on wearing parts like motor oil which can in some cases be counter productive.

Drilling holes is part of my steady paycheck! You must not be using good bits! Also motor oil is not a good lube for drilling. You are suppose to have metal on metal contact. The motor oil gets in the way.

You aren't suppose to drill a pilot hole. That actually wears the drill out unevenly stresses out the cutting edge. Drill bits are used to drill holes not expand existing holes.

I wouldn't buy any tools. It's a horrible addiction!

When in doubt use a Norseman 190-AG. Cobalt only works better in free machining stainless. Hi-Moly bits are better in work hardening stainless. Dewalt, and Irwin bits are ****!

Stanley will screw this up like they have previous brands. Stanley should stick to Tape Measures. Dewalt is no longer "trade" trusted. Just bought Irwin and Lennox from Newell and have already screwed that up. Does anyone remember what they did to the Goldblatt and American Brush brands? As a...

Might make some enemies here... Hate the thought process of the Sears / Cman generation regarding warranty. This is the reason companies have been going off shore for years. Main brands are making stuff cheaper and charging you more so they can cover the cost of your returns. Specifically when...

Always appreciate everyone's info! Wasn't looking to buy it, just never seen one. That one on Ebay looks much nicer!

I have yet to see one of these on the GJ. Anyone know the MFG? http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/5320431268.html

pics yo!

Looks to me like your fingernails aren't long enough! But really, I'll donate my free 10mm SK to someone who has the means to test these til they break and put this thread to bed.

SK already answered your multiple choice question Dr. Johnny. Did you watch any of the videos? They said (A) the current design on wrenches was too weak (for the new paw system) so they needed stronger handle. I don't think they would say their, in your words, "metallurgy is SO week", but it has...

I look at it like a tennis racquet. Why do you think the tennis industry moved to this type of split beam design? I'm no engineer but this design seems logical not useless... I had a buddy that went to the Louisville farm show last week and the SK rep there was booking orders. Anyone else see...

In! Thanks!