It would be very rare to see a 3p motor with a toggle power switch on it, but maybe its a reversing switch
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It would be very rare to see a 3p motor with a toggle power switch on it, but maybe its a reversing switch
454ragtop
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Maybe, maybe not. Without knowing if it's a 1,2,or 3 pole switch, who knows. Looking at the size of the motor, no matter if single or 3 phase, it should have had a motor starter.
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Thanks! Any idea where I would go about finding a vintage motor? I would imagine that shipping would be prohibitive. And the cast belt cover, anyone got a spare laying around?
Thanks Jim! I haven't dug into this thing just yet. Seems that you have a keen eye to notice the missing washer and nuts for the depth stop! I'll shoot you a PM when I'm back at the house.
The motor is a newer Dayton. It's single phase and I think something like 1725rpm. It's missing the start capacitor off the motor, but the motor does spin if you put some power to it and give it a push.
A period correct motor would be the way to go, for sure, but I'm not holding out hope to find one local.
The toggle power switch on the side of the machine is for the press and it's not wired up.
The head riser is there, but the piece at the very top that looks like a C, is actually broken off. I'm going to try to clean it up and weld it back together. Someone on another thread mentioned that the head riser is actually installed upside down, and after looking at some other Delta presses, I see what he means.
I'd be interested in looking into a VFD for it, but I'm "ball'n on a budget" so to speak...
It's going to need lots of love, that's for sure.
Those vintage Delta DP motors can be tough to find, will need bearing service and they're expensive to ship. I believe the frame size is 8-1/2". That's a proprietary size (pre NEMA).
You can try Ebay or the OWWM Boyd thread.
I agree with 454Ragtop. If you have to get a new motor, go three phase/VFD but you'll need to modify the mount which isn't that hard to do. A DP with a VFD is a marriage made in heaven.
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454ragtop
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Seems high, that's the smaller drill press. Does it include that cross slide table to the left of it right there?
honza.vosalik
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Not sure
Does the same slow speed pulley work for all the drill presses, or did the smaller model (like this Model 80) use a different pulley?
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BMR24
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Hi all,
here is my floor model dp220 that i picked up from an old co worker. i think its a 1947 but i'm not sure. any input is appreciated. i want to restore it so if any of you have advice on where to get parts or insight on restoration methods i'm all ears.
here is my floor model dp220 that i picked up from an old co worker. i think its a 1947 but i'm not sure. any input is appreciated. i want to restore it so if any of you have advice on where to get parts or insight on restoration methods i'm all ears.
454ragtop
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BMR24, you're correct, it is a 1947 model. What parts do you need, still have few kicking around.
BMR24
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The return spring feels a little weird, might be broken in the housing, or Maby just rusty. The switch is broken, the base has a missing piece but that's ok, and of course you can see the guard is also broken. It sounds a little grainy at idle, so I want to at least clean it up before use. works other than that from what I can tell, I haven't drilled any holes with it yet though.
davethorik
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I went to pick up a vise off Craigslist and the guy had this for sale too. He wanted $150 but he would probably go lower. I don't know jack about vintage drill presses, and I don't have room, but my dad has been looking for one. I could not see it run because the power cord did not have a plug. The seller said it was 220v, looks like the original motor. It did not have an arc of shame. It does have the rack and pinion table lift. The plastic sleeve on the side has the original owner's manual in it.
Edit: sorry about sideways pics.
Thoughts?
Edit: sorry about sideways pics.
Thoughts?
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Go get it!!!
It looks old but complete and in good shape. Around here it would be way more then $150!!
The motor can probably be configured for 120 VAC.
454ragtop
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Davethorik, hard to go wrong for that DP for that price. It's a 17" DP 600 likely from the 40's (oilboard serial # tag), production table looks decent, and looks like a morse taper quill laying on the table. Missing 1 down feed handle and knob, can't tell if it's single or 3 phase, no bid deal either way. If single phase it can most likely be wired for 115 volt, if 3 phase add a VFD for variable speed.
davethorik
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Ragtop, it has 3 handles on hand downfeed that l can see, or do you mean something else?
454ragtop
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Yup, you're right, must have blended in with the bag with the manuals. You pick it up?
davethorik
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My dad is interested, he's going to take a look later today. If he picks it up I will definitely post more pics and probably have more questions. Thanks for the response.
He better bring some strong buddies. That DP probably weighs the better part of 400 lbs. I'd be interested in the spare quill if your dad wants to sell it.....
It looks like that DP has a Delta 1 HP Repulsion Induction motor. That's excellent power for a DP and these motors are reversible by simply sliding a lever that re-orients the carbon brushes on the commutator. That means it would be easy to do L.H. drilling.
These don't have centrifical switches or start capacitors but they do have carbon brushes that can wear out.
Hey All, I decided I wanted a laser cross-hair on my old drill-press. I purchased a couple of these
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5mW-650nm-Red-Line-Laser-Module-Focus-Adjustable-Laser-Head-5V-Industrial-Grade/32755045483.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.k1PI5J
And have come up with way to clamp a structure onto the body of the drillpress.
See pics of the entire system, the laser housing and the clamping mechanism that clamps up inside the main body of the drill press.
Let me know if you have any thoughts or other ideas.
Cheers
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5mW-650nm-Red-Line-Laser-Module-Focus-Adjustable-Laser-Head-5V-Industrial-Grade/32755045483.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.k1PI5J
And have come up with way to clamp a structure onto the body of the drillpress.
See pics of the entire system, the laser housing and the clamping mechanism that clamps up inside the main body of the drill press.
Let me know if you have any thoughts or other ideas.
Cheers
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BMR24
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Does anyone know how to align the head of a vintage drill press with the base? Mine is off to one side, and I think I know which bolts to loosen, but my concern is the head sliding down the column and getting damaged on the table.
Alchymist
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Does anyone know how to align the head of a vintage drill press with the base? Mine is off to one side, and I think I know which bolts to loosen, but my concern is the head sliding down the column and getting damaged on the table.
Put a chunk of 2X4 or 2X6 on the table, raise table until it touches the chuck with the quill retracted. It can't go anywhere and the 2X will slide on the table as you rotate the head.
Outlawmws
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While you are at it, give yourself another 3/8 or 1/2" by evening the top of the post and head...
You can use the quill to raise the head once its broke loose.
and It looks like that bolt on the side worked the cam/wedges to secure the head. you may need to loosen it, then tap the bolt head to break the wedge loose from the post..
You can use the quill to raise the head once its broke loose.
and It looks like that bolt on the side worked the cam/wedges to secure the head. you may need to loosen it, then tap the bolt head to break the wedge loose from the post..
southy
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This is my FIDAX drill press, rough date of around the 60's ish.
It was originally made by Fidax foundry in Sydney Australia, ill try and get some better photos of it in a couple of weeks, it is in really good nic and runs good, needs a new drive belt but i can live with that!
Cheers
It was originally made by Fidax foundry in Sydney Australia, ill try and get some better photos of it in a couple of weeks, it is in really good nic and runs good, needs a new drive belt but i can live with that!
Cheers
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Craptain
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It's nice to see something from "down under" It certainly fits the "Cool Old" category.
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jabberwoki
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Nice idea Kiwi. Can you post up pixs of the finished unit?
dwall174
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Here's my modified 17" Delta floor model that I converted into a bench model.
The head is an older DP-600 housing & the base is from a newer style 17-600.
original column was cut down about a foot & the geared/lift-rack was extended.
It has a 1HP. 3-phase motor with new bearings, Also new bearings for the spindle-pulley / spindle / & the quill feed-guide.
Doug
The head is an older DP-600 housing & the base is from a newer style 17-600.
original column was cut down about a foot & the geared/lift-rack was extended.
It has a 1HP. 3-phase motor with new bearings, Also new bearings for the spindle-pulley / spindle / & the quill feed-guide.
Doug
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Longbow1965
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I bought this awhile back. The guy I got it from told me it was a Power King. Since then I have been researching Power King and there is no emblem on the hood that says anything or any serial number that I can find unless I am looking in the wrong place. The hood has an old worn sticker on the front that says to the best of my knowledge the word Precision with a set of dividers next to it and then the word Built I believe. Inside of the hood are the numbers 42-7M. I want to restore this to what it used to look like. If anyone can help me I would appreciate it very much. Thanks. Sorry, I don't know why my pictures are coming sideways. I have not figured how to turn them around in here yet. any suggestions would be welcome.
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bubinga
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Power King Yes,
They Nickname it "The Conehead" Drill Press.
I have 0ne too.
Power King Yes,
They Nickname it "The Conehead" Drill Press.
I have 0ne too.
Longbow1965
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Do you have any photos? I don't know how I should paint it or what the emblem looks like. I cant see any holes for an emblem. Any help would be appreciated.
dwall174
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Looks like it may be a model 610 & judging by this old sales flyer from vintagemachinery.org it doesn't look like there was a front badge or plate?
Here's a LINK to some Power King Tool Corp. History.
The label on yours could be from a store like Sears that put their own label on it.
Looks like the original color was gray, Here's one from Vintage Machinery with a custom nick-named "Conehead" label on it.
Doug
ALLFAST
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These are some neat presses !
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Question for the group. Is there a particular paint being used to color match the gold versions of the Craftsman 150 drill presses? If so, how close is the match?
dwall174
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True Value Hardware's X-O Rust Brand bronze was referred to in several articles I've read as a close match to the Craftsman "Power Bronze" color.
I've also read that, Rustoleum 261415 Champagne Mist metallic spay paint is a very good match for the "Power Bronze" color.
To my eyes the True Value paint is just a tiny bit darker & the Rustoleum seems a tiny bit lighter, But either one will be a real close match.
Doug
RHJO51
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Apologies if this is not the right place to post, but I need a spindle pulley for my old Craftsman 150 15" Drill Press. It's one of the 150s from the 60s. Spindle pulley is toast - all the splines are gone. I have good bearings. I did see the solid gold spindle pulley on ebay... Please let me know if you have one. The DP looks like the one in the photo. Thank you.
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ALLFAST
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Red Hook Joe,
That's a good looking machine. I like the gray and creme. Which gray was used ?
That's a good looking machine. I like the gray and creme. Which gray was used ?
SMOKEYBEAR
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True Value Hardware's X-O Rust Brand bronze was referred to in several articles I've read as a close match to the Craftsman "Power Bronze" color.
I've also read that, Rustoleum 261415 Champagne Mist metallic spay paint is a very good match for the "Power Bronze" color.
To my eyes the True Value paint is just a tiny bit darker & the Rustoleum seems a tiny bit lighter, But either one will be a real close match.
Doug
Thanks. I had already eyed that Rustoleum color as being close but was only relying on memory. Never next to one another.
