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Wife is out of town for a week.:headscrat

Husband buys and brings home lathe.:shocking:

Husband is eager to get lathe in shed and out of sight.:thumbup:

How long before Mrs 1/2 Cup learns of the lathe?:lol_hitti

In my humble opinion one does not need help unloading a lathe like yours. It is too heavy to manhandle so chain falls and slow methodical rigging and lifting is in order. How much does it weigh? My one ton engine hoist handled mine very well. Not that you need my assistance in unloading it, but I had fun telling you what I would do.:bounce:

You could at least have shown us a picture of it on the trailer...

Andy :lol_hitti

Mrs 1/2 Cup is well aware of the lathe.:thumbup:

I do have lifting points both in the shed and carport so I will be using one of them to get the lathe off the trailer I just need a little bit of a hand to maneuver and steady it. :thumbup:

Let the cleanup begin.

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You can do that? I’m glad mine is still on dollies. I’ll push it outside tomorrow. Lol.


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Hot pressure washing is by far the easiest way. Here’s a pic of mine on its way to the wash station.

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And here it is dried off and back in the shop. No degreaser. Just hot water.

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Your lathe is around 400kg with the stand attached. My gearhead version is 500kg without the stand. I borrowed and engine crane to get it off the trailer though I had it off the stand for transport. Since built the gantry crane that makes it a breeze to lift.

As I just told Shorty:
"Be careful with the pressure washer on the lathe. Unless you are doing a complete rebuild you may get water into expensive headstock bearings and other places where it will pool and rust things. If I recall that gearbox has oil in it and the top lifts up so not sealed. Same with the saddle gearbox which is partially open in the back. Next I'd be worried getting water in the motor too."

The smaller lathes don't take long to wipe down with WD40 and some rags.
 
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A clean up with the pressure washer before moving it into the Shed?

HOTFR8 I relented on the pressure wash clean, so I have spent all day cleaning the lathe down by hand in the shed and it has cleaned up 30 years of gunk quite nicely.:thumbup:

Looks good Steve. Even better when cleaned and in your shed.

Aaron thank you:thumbup:
We used a block and tackle in the shed to lift it off the trailer and its now a work in progress.:thumbup:

You can do that? I’m glad mine is still on dollies. I’ll push it outside tomorrow. Lol.

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Shorty we just dropped it on the floor with the aid of a block and tackle and slings, I will lift it on to dollies later.:thumbup:




Hot pressure washing is by far the easiest way. Here’s a pic of mine on its way to the wash station.

And here it is dried off and back in the shop. No degreaser. Just hot water.

Sorry for the hijack 1/2 Cup. Looking forward to seeing yours all cleaned up[emoji481]

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lis2323 your lathes have come up a treat:bowdown:

Are you doing a full make over?

No hijack at all since we are talking lathes:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

I doubt that could be classed as a hi-jack of a topic but more as advice how to clean it.

HOTFR8:thumbup::thumbup:

Your lathe is around 400kg with the stand attached. My gearhead version is 500kg without the stand. I borrowed and engine crane to get it off the trailer though I had it off the stand for transport. Since built the gantry crane that makes it a breeze to lift.

As I just told Shorty:
"Be careful with the pressure washer on the lathe. Unless you are doing a complete rebuild you may get water into expensive headstock bearings and other places where it will pool and rust things. If I recall that gearbox has oil in it and the top lifts up so not sealed. Same with the saddle gearbox which is partially open in the back. Next I'd be worried getting water in the motor too."

The smaller lathes don't take long to wipe down with WD40 and some rags.

Guster the lathe is every bit of 400 kg, its heavy, real heavy:shocking: but the shed trusses stood the test this morning thanks to Andrews help.:thumbup:
I have cleaned it from top to bottom with 4 ltrs of Diggers Grease and Wax Remover and it has worked a treat:thumbup:
Still a bit of surface rust to have a crack at but it is looking good so far.
I do not intend to strip it right down at this point where a good clean will suffice:thumbup:

I too would be wary of washing. Of course I view grease and grime as a protective coating...

Andy I agree you have to be very carefull. and you are right grease does protect well:thumbup:

I tend to agree.

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Mark its a done deal cleaned by hand.:thumbup:
I already have a lot of surface rust to deal with.
 
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So another busy day. Well done on the clean up. What plans for the surface rust?

HOTFR8 busy is right clean, clean and more cleaning.
Most of the surface rust has been taken care of with a Scotch Brite pad:thumbup:

I have had the lathe running and it does run well so its practice, practice and more practice at the moment.

I still need to set up the coolant pump which I will tackle tomorrow.:thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Must have been a relief when she spun up so well.

The only degreaser I use on my workshop machines is the Australian Export version commonly sold at Supercheap - it's basically kero with a few additives as far as I can tell, but in an aerosol pack and non-caustic so wipe off rather than hose off. I buy in bulk when it's on sale.
 

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Looks like a fine new toy, err, tool. ;)

On an older machine I would probably pressure wash, but anything that has lots of places for the water to get into and hide, I would probably be a bit more cautious.
 

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The lathe pictured as pressure washed is a sleeve bearing lathe which would be a little less susceptible to water damage than a ball bearing lathe.

Steve, has your camera broken?

What's the deal? Cleaned and no pictures?:mad:

Chips and no pictures??:mad::mad:

I guess one of my favorite things in life is watching chips come off the stationary drill bit when boring a shaft.:bounce:
 

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The lathe pictured as pressure washed is a sleeve bearing lathe which would be a little less susceptible to water damage than a ball bearing lathe.

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That is correct. [emoji106]. And I am in no way advocating using a pressure washer indiscriminately for cleaning machinery. It has its time and place.

1/2 cup the aforementioned lathe pictured for washing was given to me by a good friend. I gave it a good cleaning, freed up the carriage cross slide and tail stock mechanisms. Took a few days.

It sat in storage for another year as I have no need for it. I convinced Bob to take it back after I spent a Saturday morning rearranging and cleaning up his shop.

Here’s one another friend found for me at a garage sale for $7.

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Must have been a relief when she spun up so well.

The only degreaser I use on my workshop machines is the Australian Export version commonly sold at Supercheap - it's basically kero with a few additives as far as I can tell, but in an aerosol pack and non-caustic so wipe off rather than hose off. I buy in bulk when it's on sale.

Ralf99 the lathe spins not to bad and every thing works well:thumbup:

Australian Export Degreaser is a great product and I always have a few cans handy my self.:thumbup:


Looks like a fine new toy, err, tool. ;)

On an older machine I would probably pressure wash, but anything that has lots of places for the water to get into and hide, I would probably be a bit more cautious.

Strouty thank you:thumbup:

I agree you would need to be fairly cautious if you pressure wash.:thumbup:

The lathe pictured as pressure washed is a sleeve bearing lathe which would be a little less susceptible to water damage than a ball bearing lathe.

Steve, has your camera broken?

What's the deal? Cleaned and no pictures?:mad:

Chips and no pictures??:mad::mad:

I guess one of my favorite things in life is watching chips come off the stationary drill bit when boring a shaft.:bounce:

Andy, you are right the sleeve bearing lathe would be ok so long as it is dried out and lubricated shortly after.

This is where the cleanup is at so far. No chips as yet, its too clean now..:lol_hitti

I will be cleaning up the coolant pump today, then I want to redo the electrics.:thumbup:

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I cant wait to see the chips flying:thumbup:



That is correct. [emoji106]. And I am in no way advocating using a pressure washer indiscriminately for cleaning machinery. It has its time and place.

1/2 cup the aforementioned lathe pictured for washing was given to me by a good friend. I gave it a good cleaning, freed up the carriage cross slide and tail stock mechanisms. Took a few days.

It sat in storage for another year as I have no need for it. I convinced Bob to take it back after I spent a Saturday morning rearranging and cleaning up his shop.

Here’s one another friend found for me at a garage sale for $7.

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lis2323 I agree totally pressure washing any thing does have its time and place:thumbup:

There is a lot of work to clean a lathe from top to bottom.

That's a great score on the lathe for $7 and nicely cleaned up, well done:bowdown:

Thanks for sharing.:thumbup:


1/2 Cup, congrats on the new (to you) lathe. You will absolutely love having that in the shed. Soooooo many uses. :bounce:


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Dan thank you.:thumbup:
The lathe is just going to be so handy.:thumbup:
 

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1/2: I can't recall ever using a metal lathe, but from what i've heard they are a blast. also happy to see yours is on the Shed's floor and it's already starting to shine.

LET THE CHIPS FLY WHERE THEY MAY!!

BIG CONGRATS and couldn't happen to a nicer guy!!
 

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Wow that came up a treat mate, you certainly get a hell of a lot done in a short time.

Bet you can't wait to put it into service.

Enjoy,
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Lathe is looking good. I’ll need to add a chip guard to the back of mine. I see you have one of those old quick change. I’ll gladly trade you a new, advance tombstone tool holder for it. lol.


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Looks good Steve. My grandpa would be proud if I ever got a metal lathe.

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Great work Steve! Almost ready to make chips.

I was trusting you'd fix the 'industrial' wiring. I'd be tempted to run it on a VFD to get some extra speed control. Though you easily get by with a contactor and will give you the e-stop function with the right size braking resistor. Don't forget to wire it with a 2/3 way switch so you can wire it to run reverse too(might need an extra contactor too) Very handy when doing complex threading to leave it engaged and just run it back and forth.

Time to start a shopping(Christmas) list for you:
1. Dial test indicator with magnetic stand - the Noga style ones are great but spendy.
2. Spill proof cutting oil container and applicator brushes
3. Good insert boring bar or two - something like an 8mm and 20mm shaft for bigger jobs with a CCMT/CNMG insert perhaps. The WNMG style ones are more robust but dearer. Works out well if you buy indexable tooling with the same inserts ie WNMG vs CNMG
4. Good task lighting
5. ?
 

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Now I'm confused. I thought all metal lathes were reversible. When boring shallow holes I like to bore in reverse so I can see the tool.

Down the road a milling vise can be very handy to do small milling jobs.
 
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1/2: I can't recall ever using a metal lathe, but from what i've heard they are a blast. also happy to see yours is on the Shed's floor and it's already starting to shine.

LET THE CHIPS FLY WHERE THEY MAY!!

BIG CONGRATS and couldn't happen to a nicer guy!!


Thank you Drives there is still a bit to go to bring it up to speed but I will get there.:thumbup:


Wow that came up a treat mate, you certainly get a hell of a lot done in a short time.

Bet you can't wait to put it into service.

Enjoy,
Lindsay

Thank you Lindsay :thumbup:

I have ordered a few bits and pieces which should be here in a day or so to get me cracking:thumbup:

Looks great 1/2 Cup, I was of course only joking with the "running by Sunday" comment, but it looks like you've got pretty close anyway. :bowdown:
Cheers GB

Thank you GB :thumbup:
I am getting there and are currently working on the coolant pump and the electrics at the moment, even so it is still pretty functional.:thumbup:


Looks good cleaned up and in the shed. Looking forward to fresh metal chips and the first lathe project.

Bob thank you:thumbup:

I do have a couple of small projects in the winds so stay tuned.


Lathe is looking good. I’ll need to add a chip guard to the back of mine. I see you have one of those old quick change. I’ll gladly trade you a new, advance tombstone tool holder for it. lol.


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Shorty thank you:thumbup: I must add some guards to mine as well.
I will take you up on the offer, that said there is a lot of mods I can and will be doing down the track.:thumbup:

Looks good Steve. My grandpa would be proud if I ever got a metal lathe.

Bret

Thank you Bret you should shout your self one, they are so handy.:thumbup:

Great work Steve! Almost ready to make chips.

I was trusting you'd fix the 'industrial' wiring. I'd be tempted to run it on a VFD to get some extra speed control. Though you easily get by with a contactor and will give you the e-stop function with the right size braking resistor. Don't forget to wire it with a 2/3 way switch so you can wire it to run reverse too(might need an extra contactor too) Very handy when doing complex threading to leave it engaged and just run it back and forth. I am just replacing all the wiring, contactor and e stop for the moment. A VSD will come later

Time to start a shopping(Christmas) list for you:
1. Dial test indicator with magnetic stand - the Noga style ones are great but spendy. Got two
2. Spill proof cutting oil container and applicator brushes On the list
3. Good insert boring bar or two - something like an 8mm and 20mm shaft for bigger jobs with a CCMT/CNMG insert perhaps. The WNMG style ones are more robust but dearer. Works out well if you buy indexable tooling with the same inserts ie WNMG vs CNMG I have got two different sizes and plenty of spare tips
4. Good task lighting On the to do list
5. ?


Guster
thank you very much for your advice, appreciated.:thumbup:

Nice work on the lathe ! Know any good electricians ?? :pimpflash:lol_hitti:beer::thumbup:


Coolabah:lol_hitti I will see if I can find a good electrician in the phone book.:thumbup:
Thanks:thumbup:


Now I'm confused. I thought all metal lathes were reversible. When boring shallow holes I like to bore in reverse so I can see the tool.

Down the road a milling vise can be very handy to do small milling jobs.

Andy, mine you can reverse and you can also do it electrically.


If I buy any more stuff things will have to go or I buy a new shed to fit it in:shocking:

But you are right a mill is handy.:thumbup:
 

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If you can mount a small mill vice to the cross slide, then you can chuck an end cutter for some light duty face or slot milling, particularly in aluminium and engineering plastics.
 

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Steve looking good so far. Expect to see pin stripes and directional arrows painted on an lacquered before it is done; and signed of course! Let the fun begin.
 
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Ralf99[/B];7476489]If you can mount a small mill vice to the cross slide, then you can chuck an end cutter for some light duty face or slot milling, particularly in aluminium and engineering plastics.

Ralf99 Now you have me thinking.:thumbup:

Steve looking good so far. Expect to see pin stripes and directional arrows painted on an lacquered before it is done; and signed of course! Let the fun begin.

Thank you Bobby

I don't know that I will be going that far but you have planted a seed.:headscrat

A little bit to go before we are in full production but are nearly there.:thumbup:


Great!! I'm looking forward to your new shed build! Got popcorn in the popper.:spit:

Does Mrs. 1/2 Cup know you're building on yet?

In my dreams Andy:lol_hitti

I have not broached the subject with Mrs 1/2 Cup as yet but I know what the outcome is likely to be.;)

The lathe looks great. Did I miss the last health update? I hope you're making chips soon.

xtremek many thank.:thumbup:

My treatment is going well except for the Thyroid playing up because of the Immunotherapy, the new dose has not kicked in fully. The joint soreness is under control for the most part but I am fighting fatigue and tiredness which is a battle.
More bloods and Immunotherapy next week so we will see how it goes.:thumbup:

Thank you one and all for your visit, enjoy your day.

PS we are having a fair old tropical downpour here now which is the most rain we have had in many months heading into summer. It is a welcome relief.:thumbup:
 

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1/2: AWESOME job bringing your new to you lathe back to life. it's going to be a sweet tool in the SHED DOWNUNDER i'm certain of that. you'll be right up there with the best of them before long and making stuff that was either unobtanium or too expensive to buy or to far to ship and get to you when you need it very soon.

keep up the great progress and does it have a permanent spot yet or are you still working on that?

also I read you are dealing with soreness and joint pain which I can't even imagine what it really is cause you are not somebody to complain. hell I think i'm in fairly good shape and i'm working out 3 days a week at the gym and moving stuff at a pretty good pace and i'm still sore almost all the time. I do know if I wasn't busy and working out that i'd probably be getting old and fat quickly so a little soreness is all good as far as i'm concerned so hope you feel back to your pain free self soon.

keep up the great work and I know you are going to beat this and i'm still sending my best and a few more prayers too.

have a great day!!
 
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