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Someone’s been to MachineryHouse! Next time also get the drill chuck c spanners for your chuck. The keyless chucks do self tighten with larger drills and can be a right ******* to undo. They sell two sizes and I bought 2 of each for the different size chucks I have after getting tired of fighting with the strap wrench and reaching for an old leather glove and pipe wrench to undo them.

That parting tool should be OK for plastic and maybe non-gummy aluminium. I have a larger one of those I use old ground down power-hacksaw blades in for parting plastics on a regular basis. Would be good for practice but I wouldn’t use it for much more than that. For steel you may be better saving and buying an toolholder that takes at least a ~32mm HSS blade or an insert parting blade like these https://www.machineryhouse.co.nz/L465 (not necessarily this specific one). The larger HSS parting blades are quite expensive but better suited if there are interrupted cuts(parting hex or square stock). Otherwise the extra blade height allows for additional tool stick-out when parting. And it is roughly a 1:1 height to stick-out ratio(safety margin). Not saying you can’t part more than 64mm(we all do) but you start taking more risk with potential for destroying the tool or damaging the backgear. In which case spare clean underwear is always handy too. Your lathe should cope comfortably with 3mm width in steel and 2mm in stainless and carbon steel with the backgear engaged. Be aware that some tools are also called parting tools but more suited for simple grooving operations like cutting an o-ring seat. Either due to to cutting geometry or lack of clearance for deeper plunge cutting.

BTW. Those little stainless 100mm/4” scales MachineryHouse sell(sometimes give away) are a very handy thing to have by the lathe. I used to decline them till I realised how handy they are. One lives permanently on the side of the tailstock for checking measurements. I glued a small magnet to one I keep on the mill as well.
 
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Nice tooling, Steve!

That parting tool looks all right to me, is it 25 mm high?

But I hate those springs on the chuck tool. They're just so inconvenient if you're dialing in a four jaw. I don't think a competent operator ever leaves a chuck key in. I know it's a safety issue, but there are so many other ways to screw up worse if you're not paying attention.

I have a 12-inch rule with a zero hook on the end I use all the time. You can hook the rule over the back of the work, even in the jaws, and eyeball a tool location for cutoff or cutting a shoulder in a flash, if high tolerance is not required. When cutting off a piece which is loose I like to position the cutoff tool close to the work then lightly touch the tool with the rule and move the apron until I get the measurement I want on the end of the work, within 0.010" easily. Again not high tolerance but most lengths are not.

I have one of those carbide insert cutoff tools like Guster referenced, expensive and I've broken the end off the tool (not just the insert) crowding it so that was a $50 error. I still use HSS cutoff tool regularly.

Chips, please!
 
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Ralf99[/B];7478715]Something extra to consider for the lathe until you build the shed extension to house a mill...
Ralf99 I will be in that:thumbup:

1/2: AWESOME job bringing your new to you lathe back to life. it's going to be a sweet tool in the SHED DOWNUNDER i'm certain of that. you'll be right up there with the best of them before long and making stuff that was either unobtanium or too expensive to buy or to far to ship and get to you when you need it very soon.

keep up the great progress and does it have a permanent spot yet or are you still working on that?

also I read you are dealing with soreness and joint pain which I can't even imagine what it really is cause you are not somebody to complain. hell I think i'm in fairly good shape and i'm working out 3 days a week at the gym and moving stuff at a pretty good pace and i'm still sore almost all the time. I do know if I wasn't busy and working out that i'd probably be getting old and fat quickly so a little soreness is all good as far as i'm concerned so hope you feel back to your pain free self soon.

keep up the great work and I know you are going to beat this and i'm still sending my best and a few more prayers too.

have a great day!!


Drives thank you so much for the kind words as always:bowdown:

I have not decided on a permanent spot for the lathe as yet, I do need to put some serious thought into that.

My thyroid meds are known to take a long time to kick in ( 6 -8 weeks in fact ) and I have been on them for just over six weeks now stating at a low dose and that was doubled only three weeks ago when my bloods were a little out of step so we will get there in time.


And thank you for your thoughts and prayers:bowdown:

OH boy, TOYS....oops, I mean TOOLS! ;)


:beer:

Dan to right and I scored some more freebies from a mate today ( pics to follow ):rocker:


Someone’s been to MachineryHouse! Next time also get the drill chuck c spanners for your chuck. The keyless chucks do self tighten with larger drills and can be a right ******* to undo. They sell two sizes and I bought 2 of each for the different size chucks I have after getting tired of fighting with the strap wrench and reaching for an old leather glove and pipe wrench to undo them.

That parting tool should be OK for plastic and maybe non-gummy aluminium. I have a larger one of those I use old ground down power-hacksaw blades in for parting plastics on a regular basis. Would be good for practice but I wouldn’t use it for much more than that. For steel you may be better saving and buying an toolholder that takes at least a ~32mm HSS blade or an insert parting blade like these https://www.machineryhouse.co.nz/L465 (not necessarily this specific one). The larger HSS parting blades are quite expensive but better suited if there are interrupted cuts(parting hex or square stock). Otherwise the extra blade height allows for additional tool stick-out when parting. And it is roughly a 1:1 height to stick-out ratio(safety margin). Not saying you can’t part more than 64mm(we all do) but you start taking more risk with potential for destroying the tool or damaging the backgear. In which case spare clean underwear is always handy too. Your lathe should cope comfortably with 3mm width in steel and 2mm in stainless and carbon steel with the backgear engaged. Be aware that some tools are also called parting tools but more suited for simple grooving operations like cutting an o-ring seat. Either due to to cutting geometry or lack of clearance for deeper plunge cutting.

BTW. Those little stainless 100mm/4” scales MachineryHouse sell(sometimes give away) are a very handy thing to have by the lathe. I used to decline them till I realised how handy they are. One lives permanently on the side of the tailstock for checking measurements. I glued a small magnet to one I keep on the mill as well.


Guster, yep Machinery Ware House for sure:thumbup:

I have to admit you were right in saying when I first brought the lathe about the fact that you never really stop buying tooling, I have another order ready to go for their November Promo.:thumbup:



That's the style milling vise I was referring to. The can be very handy, even for cutting keyways, both straight and woodruff.

Andy that will be for sure..:thumbup:

Nice tooling, Steve!

That parting tool looks all right to me, is it 25 mm high?

But I hate those springs on the chuck tool. They're just so inconvenient if you're dialing in a four jaw. I don't think a competent operator ever leaves a chuck key in. I know it's a safety issue, but there are so many other ways to screw up worse if you're not paying attention.

I have a 12-inch rule with a zero hook on the end I use all the time. You can hook the rule over the back of the work, even in the jaws, and eyeball a tool location for cutoff or cutting a shoulder in a flash, if high tolerance is not required. When cutting off a piece which is loose I like to position the cutoff tool close to the work then lightly touch the tool with the rule and move the apron until I get the measurement I want on the end of the work, within 0.010" easily. Again not high tolerance but most lengths are not.

I have one of those carbide insert cutoff tools like Guster referenced, expensive and I've broken the end off the tool (not just the insert) crowding it so that was a $50 error. I still use HSS cutoff tool regularly.

Chips, please!

Andy and Guster being a novice in reality when it comes to machining I really do appreciate the time and effort you have taken to put down in the thread both of your learned experiences when it come to lathes it has helped me no end and you comments have all been taken on board. Thank you both.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Let the chips fly ( well after I finish the coolant pump and electrics )

Pics to follow of my toolling scores today:thumbup:
 

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Those are dandy boring bars, and lots of carbide inserts is a wonderful thing. You need to change them when they get chipped, not keep pushing them like I do, even though I've got more in the drawer.
 
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Steve I can see the chips flying!

Bobby I am nearly there..:rocker:

Those are dandy boring bars, and lots of carbide inserts is a wonderful thing. You need to change them when they get chipped, not keep pushing them like I do, even though I've got more in the drawer.

Andy the boring bars are brand new plus I have a good supply of tips, I am hoping I won't destroy too many.:thumbup:

Knurling tool, center drills, parting tool holder, more carbide inserts, boring bars..... SCORE! :thumbup:
:beer:

Dan I am getting quite a collection now thanks to the donation to the cause. :)
No doubt there will be more to be had :thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Todays score.

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Tooling I already had ( an auction buy on the spur of the moment some years back ).

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Enjoy your day:thumbup:


Like a man who always planned to own a lathe!! :thumbup:

Great start to your machine tool collection. Your lathe will also handle knurling well and I pretty much have the same knurling tool I think. Would love the time to make an edge cutting(fast knurler)

The other two parting blades look like they could do the job. Not hard making a toolholder for them. Even without a mill. Darn good reason to get a basic drill mill though(hint hint)

Almost long weekend here... better run and get a bit of steel before the supplier closes.
 

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1/2: don't feel like the lone ranger owning lathe parts without a lathe especially since you now own one. i've got a few drawers of lathe parts and bits and had more until I let a few go to guys with a lathe.

HEY YOU IT'S SATURDAY!!

is Mrs. 1/2 still up at your kids or back snapping the whip at home?

looking forward to hearing about chips flying so do so when you are ready and tell us how you felt to have that happening in your own shed.

have a great weekend. did I hear there is another holiday day monday!!
 

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1/2 CUP having that lathe will open up so many new opportunities for your projects. Not to mention having MORE fun along the way!

My only “machining” skillset is what I remember from high school (before I dropped out). Anything “critical” I always sent out to a machine shop, but having a lathe on the farm has been invaluable.

Congratulations[emoji481]


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Great to see the new lathe and that you have already put it to good use.

Glad that you are doing well and are tackling new projects.

What do you need to make for the Model A?

Dwight
 

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Doesn’t take long to find something you can make yourself. I used my new lathe today also. Sanded a wood dowel. Does that count?
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Your 1st good turn :lol_hitti
Well done!

03 Thank you and let there be many more.:thumbup:

Forward planning and getting stuff done ehhhh?

Great feeling for sure, Progress is progress

It is a great feeling for sure Rian:thumbup:

Just awesome to be up and running and making projects. Good work!

Bob thank you:thumbup:

Great to see the new lathe and that you have already put it to good use.

Glad that you are doing well and are tackling new projects.

What do you need to make for the Model A?

Dwight

Dwight thank you as well.:thumbup:

Sadly I do not need to turn anything for the Model A
I had done that many years ago but I am sure something will come up.:thumbup:

Doesn’t take long to find something you can make yourself. I used my new lathe today also. Sanded a wood dowel. Does that count?

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Way to go Shorty:thumbup: that counts:thumbup:

Have a great weekend one and all.:thumbup:


PS I am taking a couple of weeks annual leave from work and I am quite looking forward some QST.:rocker:
 

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1/2: Congrats on making the new part for the ROVER. WELL DONE!!

just the beginning of many great projects and i'm sure one is that left handed threaded bolt that was unobtainium for your wet saw.

nice work getting a couple weeks off work to use playing and restoring your new lathe among other things.

hope you had a great weekend.
 
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I see we have turned the corner with the new jokes.

HOTFR8:lol_hitti


Awesome. Great to see you already making chips.. congratz..��

Redwolf947 many thanks:thumbup:
I have just toying around with speed settings and how best way to sharpen high speed steel cutters.

so I see !!

EDIT : which leads me to a machinist joke , of course :

"How many Machinists work in this shop," a visitor asked the owner?

"About half of them," he said with a grin.

Coolabah:lol_hitti

I will stick to being an electrician:thumbup:


1/2: Congrats on making the new part for the ROVER. WELL DONE!!

just the beginning of many great projects and i'm sure one is that left handed threaded bolt that was unobtainium for your wet saw.

nice work getting a couple weeks off work to use playing and restoring your new lathe among other things.

hope you had a great weekend.

Drives many thanks, its onwards and upwards from here. That bolt is on the to do list for sure.
I spent most of today finishing of the coolant pump isolator, wiring and safety switch interlocks on the lathe. I also ordered a new live centre, more carbide cutting tips to add to the collection.:thumbup:

The more I use the lathe the more stuff I seam to need..:headscrat

A great week end in the garden for the most part and just smelling the roses as well.:thumbup:

It does feel really nice when you've been able to produce something useful from your tools. :thumbup:

xtremek absolutely. Very satisfying indeed.:thumbup:

Two weeks at home? That's a great thing when you have a new lathe.

Andy you had better believe it.:rocker:

I do know that Mrs 1/2 Cup does have just the odd job waiting for me as well:shocking:

All I had bloods this morning, Immunotherapy tomorrow and an Oncology appointment on Wednesday. The Thyroid meds seem to be just starting to kick in with not as much joint soreness and not so much tiredness which is a great relief let me tell you.:thumbup:

Thank you one and all, have a top day.:thumbup:
 

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This is 'turning' out to be a good weekend Steve! Edges chamfered and everything. :thumbup:

Good score on the stainless stock too. I always grab some when I see it at the local recyclers. Always comes in handy, turns nicely and no bother painting. :D
 

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All I had bloods this morning, Immunotherapy tomorrow and an Oncology appointment on Wednesday. The Thyroid meds seem to be just starting to kick in with not as much joint soreness and not so much tiredness which is a great relief let me tell you...

That's good to hear Steve. [emoji106]

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1/2: good to hear you are feeling ok after all the shots and therapy especially since you are getting a couple weeks of QST.

I think we might need a few more pictures of your lathe and some with some chips flying if you have time. before too long i bet your grandsons will be learning how to use the lathe with some expert guidance from their gramps?
 

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......All I had bloods this morning, Immunotherapy tomorrow and an Oncology appointment on Wednesday. The Thyroid meds seem to be just starting to kick in with not as much joint soreness and not so much tiredness which is a great relief let me tell you.:thumbup:......


This is GREAT news Steve! :bounce:


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This is 'turning' out to be a good weekend Steve! Edges chamfered and everything. :thumbup:

Good score on the stainless stock too. I always grab some when I see it at the local recyclers. Always comes in handy, turns nicely and no bother painting. :D

Guster it did turnout to be a great weekend:lol_hitti

I do like my edges chamfered as well:thumbup:

I will definitely be keeping my eyes out anything that you could put in a lathe and make chips with from now on as I don't have lot kicking around:thumbup:

That's good to hear Steve. [emoji106]

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Mark thank you :thumbup:
My suspicions were right, my bloods this morning showed that the Thyroid count is heading back to somewhere near normal and that the meds were doing their job that we employed them to do..:thumbup:

Glad to hear you are feeling better Steve.

Bret


A little bit at a time Bret. It will be nice to start weaning myself off some of the pain killers I am on.:thumbup:

1/2: good to hear you are feeling ok after all the shots and therapy especially since you are getting a couple weeks of QST.

I think we might need a few more pictures of your lathe and some with some chips flying if you have time. before too long i bet your grandsons will be learning how to use the lathe with some expert guidance from their gramps?

Drives I am just looking forward to getting off the merry go round even if it is just for a short while.:thumbup:

We should get some action shots of the lathe happening in the near future. Instead of doing a full rebuild I am doing little bits at a time so as not to take the lathe out of action for any length of time so the coolant pump is done and dusted and the wiring and safety interlocks are complete now I am working on the cross feeds.

I do have to make sure the power is turned off on the lathe at all times as young Aiden just loves pushing buttons:shocking:

Great to hear your feeling better :thumbup: :thumbup:

Thank you BF believe me its one hurdle I am glad to be across:thumbup:

This is GREAT news Steve! :bounce:

:beer:

Dan thank you very much:thumbup:



Thanks gentlemen, I trust you are all having a good one..:thumbup:
 
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