Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT Build Thread: 20x40x12

[jasondavidmann]

Not much of an update, but I finished all of the wall framing. Also the centre of the walls are now plumb.

I have some friends coming Friday morning to set trusses so tomorrow I’ll layout on top of the walls and put the trusses on top of the walls.

I am going to look at a used lift tomorrow afternoon, a Rotary SPO10. The timing is bad because I’m not ready for it and am pretty busy but a pretty nice lift if we can make a deal.

 

[jasondavidmann]

I was able to shake hands on this lift today. Rotary SPO10 symmetric, 10,000lbs. I bought it from a van upfiter who had just barely bent the top bar because they didn’t have the limit switch installed. As a result the lift failed its 3rd party inspection and I got a great deal.

 

[jollygreengiant]

Build is looking good!

Sometimes the good deals happen when you don't expect it.

 

[grant00]

Nice score on the lift. Progress is coming along great and can't wait to see more.

 

[jbrentd]

Looking good! Hard to pass up good deals on nice equipment like that. Congrats!

 

[jasondavidmann]

Thanks everyone, I agree I’ve gotten most of my best deals when the timing wasn’t exactly best for me. One reason to always have a “too good to pass up” envelop of cash set aside for days like this.

Today I brought up the rest of the trusses. Unfortunately I found the easiest way was to carry them up from a single ladder in the middle. 70lbs doesn’t sound too heavy until it is way above your head and to the side. I only dropped one truss that swung around and knocked me off the ladder - so I’d call today a success.

Tomorrow I’ll take it easy and recover so that I can be ready to stand the trusses Friday morning when a couple of friends come over. I will cut the ridge blocking and build the gable ladders.

 

[grant00]

Are your gable trusses dropped so you can extend the gable ladder framing back to the second full truss?

 

[jasondavidmann]

Are your gable trusses dropped so you can extend the gable ladder framing back to the second full truss?

No, the gable trusses are the same as the rest. I’ll just build some ladders and attach them to the gables at a later time, but I will run the plywood sheeting long on the roof now.

 

[jasondavidmann]

Another milestone reached! Roof trusses are up and strapped. I’ll be ready to do the rest of the bracing and start sheeting in the next few days.

Special thanks to my two friends C and G who got soaked in the rain this morning. One of the only days it has rained so far this summer, but the timing was terrible. Even more appreciation for G who “doesn’t like heights” but kept working. G did tell me that he wouldn’t be back for any other roof work.

My hoist was delivered today as well but I won’t give it much attention until the shingles and wall sheeting are done.

 

[captain14]

Congratulations on this milestone. You will feel much better after the plywood is on the roof too.

Are your having the shingles delivered to the roof or carrying each bundle up yourself?

So after looking at it, did your realize it would be this bug

 

[ToysRUs]

This is a great build and exactly the size I'm putting up here in Tennessee. Can't wait to see the interior. I'm scheduling a 12' wide door and setting the lift off to the right to have more space on the left. Where is your shop sink going?

 

[jasondavidmann]

Congratulations on this milestone. You will feel much better after the plywood is on the roof too.

Are your having the shingles delivered to the roof or carrying each bundle up yourself?

So after looking at it, did your realize it would be this bug

Thank you, I already have my shingles on the ground in the backyard. But I will use my skid steer to lift them to 8' then stand on scaffolding and lift from the bucket onto the roof (12' eave). I will also use the skid steer with pallet forks to lift the plywood. Hoping that I can stand on the roof and reach down and grab the sheets - watch for pictures of that.

I am pretty good at looking at plans and envisioning what it will be like. The height did surprise me a little, and the resulting ladder/scaffold work is something I didn't mentally prepare for. But the extra height will be worth it in the end.

Thanks for following along.

 

[jasondavidmann]

This is a great build and exactly the size I'm putting up here in Tennessee. Can't wait to see the interior. I'm scheduling a 12' wide door and setting the lift off to the right to have more space on the left. Where is your shop sink going?

Great, I look forward to watching your build, do you have a thread started on GJ?

No sink in the garage or water at all. I am planning to add a utility sink in our mudroom that is only 40' from the shop.

 

[DJL1967]

Looks like you are well on your way to a great build. You are doing a fantastic job!

 

[Mr.zippy]

Oh man…….lifting those shingles up makes my back scream just thinking about it!

 

[jasondavidmann]

It has been raining pretty steady the last few days. I’ve gone out a few times and started the ridge block, catwalk and angle bracing but still a lot to do.

I took advantage of the rain and ordered my lights off Amazon. Going to try the Barrina LEDs that are getting good reviews. 16x 8’ fixtures for a rated total of 180lm/sq ft but I highly doubt that would be actual brightness. I’d always thought that I’d redo the lighting IF I got a lift but since I have one I was able to incorporate the planning now. Obviously brightness is important but overall distribution is more important for no shadows. 3 switches with zones to account for times when less light is needed and when less glare is required for the tv.

 

[jasondavidmann]

The sub-fascia, truss bracing, ridge blocking, catwalk, and hurricane clips are all done. Tomorrow I will try to finish sheeting the walls. At that point I will be ready to sheet the roof and shingle.



Did I mention I’m a mechanic trying to do carpentry…

 

[grant00]

Did I mention I’m a mechanic trying to do carpentry…

Welcome to the club

Looking great!

 

[jasondavidmann]

No building progress today but I did my first oil change in the shop. Hopefully next time will be on the hoist.

 

[captain14]

No building progress today but I did my first oil change in the shop. Hopefully next time will be on the hoist.

Last time For the sun roof option doing oil changes also. How many oil Changes have we done laying in the elements and watching the weather to get finished in time.

Question or thought for the lighting plan. How about a single light when you want to come in the garage to get something quick with turning on one bank? Like a night light arrangement?

 

[jasondavidmann]

Captain, good observation about the night light comment. I did revise my entry door layout so now I have one on each end of the 40’ wall. While walking around trying to visualize light switches etc I decided that I would put zone 2 on a 3 way switch going to both doors. That way only the centre light come on.
My lights were delivered today but I didn’t get a chance to check them out.

 

[fouckhest]

I have a similar size garage I am finishing, and such a similar lighting layout....I have my electrical setup so my two outer rows are on the same circuit and the center is a stand alone with a switch that works from the house or garage people door end.

I am also thinking about getting some of the 110v outlet covers that have an LED nightlight in them so there is always "some light" in the garage.

 

[jasondavidmann]

Today I finished the wall sheeting. It got a little windy in the afternoon and that started to get exciting!!!

Next I will sheet the roof and shingle as fast as I can after that. It will be exciting to be water tight. Won’t be for at least a week from now.

 

[ToysRUs]

Captain, good observation about the night light comment. I did revise my entry door layout so now I have one on each end of the 40’ wall. While walking around trying to visualize light switches etc I decided that I would put zone 2 on a 3 way switch going to both doors. That way only the centre light come on.
My lights were delivered today but I didn’t get a chance to check them out.

put a motion sensing switch on what you want for the minimum light. I have it in the garage attached to the house...its the bomb. walk in or when the garage door moves the lights come on!

 

[ToysRUs]

It has been raining pretty steady the last few days. I’ve gone out a few times and started the ridge block, catwalk and angle bracing but still a lot to do.

I took advantage of the rain and ordered my lights off Amazon. Going to try the Barrina LEDs that are getting good reviews. 16x 8’ fixtures for a rated total of 180lm/sq ft but I highly doubt that would be actual brightness. I’d always thought that I’d redo the lighting IF I got a lift but since I have one I was able to incorporate the planning now. Obviously brightness is important but overall distribution is more important for no shadows. 3 switches with zones to account for times when less light is needed and when less glare is required for the tv.

Dude, your gonna need sunglasses in there.

 

[jasondavidmann]

Thanks for your patience, I’ve been on vacation last week and this week has been busy with back to school.

I’m not sure about the motion sensor switch as I’m planning for a dog door into the shop office and the lights would probably always be on. BTW if any of you suggest a secure dog door for a Labrador that would be great.

Today I started sheeting the roof, the first row on one side is done and overall it went pretty smoothly. I also built the ladders for the gable soffit since a friend told me he will be swinging by tomorrow afternoon.

 

[captain14]

Glad your friend will stop by to help install the ladders. Will you tie them into the trusses or just attach at the gable end?

Can you take a couple of after installation shots, not to delay the work.

 

[jasondavidmann]

Glad your friend will stop by to help install the ladders. Will you tie them into the trusses or just attach at the gable end?

Can you take a couple of after installation shots, not to delay the work.

The ladders are attached to the gable end. Screwed through the plywood into the truss. Also screwed from the plywood roof sheeting. I made sure the roof sheeting was catching at least two other trusses in addition to the ladders.

 

[jasondavidmann]

1/2 of the roof plywood is done! I’m hoping to get the other side finished tomorrow and the roofing underlay on before Tuesday as we are expecting rain.

 

[Kevkx125]

Looks great so far jason , hope you get it closed in before the weather changes. Awesome job on doing it your self!!

 

[DJL1967]

Great job!

 

[jasondavidmann]

The roof sheeting is done except for the one sheet that I am short. I’ll get that done Monday and start the drip edge before installing the ice and water shield and roofing underlay.

I also added a tarp over the overhead door opening. A friend in the roofing industry said that otherwise I run the risk of catching the wind and blowing off all the plywood roof/walls.

 

[captain14]

Are you putting a ridge vent in when you get to that point?

Just another step towards completion.

I hope you get the roofing underlay on before the rains come.

 

[Kevkx125]

Coming along nicely jason, can't wait to see it closed in!!

 

[jbrentd]

Nice work!

 

[jasondavidmann]

Are you putting a ridge vent in when you get to that point?

Just another step towards completion.

I hope you get the roofing underlay on before the rains come.

No ridge venting, I have 3 traditional vents to cut in while shingling.

Although the rain is my motivation I’m not overly concerned if it rains before I’m waterproof. Plywood is pretty forgiving and the water should roll off the sloped roof.

 

[jasondavidmann]

I had to wait for it to get dark to see the temporary lighting I installed on an extension cord. 4x 8’ sections are connected here. I plan to have 16x fixtures (see earlier layout plan). I’m thinking that 4 times the light and white walls and ceiling will be great!

 

[rmckee]

Great progress! I'm glad you're further along than I am, as I will be excited to see how your lighting plan works out. The temp setup looks pretty bright so far! I've been strongly considering those Barrina fixtures after all the rave reviews online, and was thinking about 16 of them in two zones, so not far off from your plan. I also plan doing 3000K recessed lights on a dimmer so I can have a less "shop" vibe at night if I don't feel like having the 5000K lights on.

 

[redrkt]

Nice progress. I am considering building next year. Can you provide an approximate out of pocket cost for DIY? Want to build something similar and want to see how much more hiring someone else to do it will cost?

 

[jasondavidmann]

Nice progress. I am considering building next year. Can you provide an approximate out of pocket cost for DIY? Want to build something similar and want to see how much more hiring someone else to do it will cost?

Costs are going to vary for you based on location and whenever you decide to build. It looks like you might mostly avoid COVID lumber pricing.

I bought my lumber package in April and a few weeks ago prices had fallen to below what I paid. But having said that our local Home Depot only had a few sheets of plywood available when I needed one this weekend…

I have been calling in all my favours so that affects my pricing. I’ve had some timely help from a few good friends and others have been extending me very good pricing on material.

So far I have DIYed everything. Concrete I cut a deal with a friend and paid minimal for his expertise so he could tell me what to do while placing and then he ran the power trowel. Radiant heat I had a friend’s company design and supply my system, I ran the loops and they will finish the rest. Electric I will be working with a friend who extends his pricing to me without markup.

I haven’t decided on exterior finish but have left some budget for it. Interior will be drywall.

All in all I was hoping to be all done for under $40K CAD but it is looking like I will be closer to $10k over.

* note that I was able to justify a few tool purchases that aren’t on the shop budget because I’ll use them for my cabin build afterwards.