Looks like someone put a floor length column on a benchtop model.
Craftsman Drill Press
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Looks like someone put a floor length column on a benchtop model.
atch
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Me too!!!
And I don't even need another DP (I've got two).
Someone in western Wisconsin please go get this thing and report back here.
Yep, but I'd still be all over it.
bubinga
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I picked up this 397.19580 1/3 hp bench grinder today at an estate sale. It was born on July 14 1969.
Missing the rubber feet and one wheel cover. The paint is flaking off the lamp shade and the lower portion of the center band. One rest is worn from the wire wheel. The glass in the shields is good.
Missing the rubber feet and one wheel cover. The paint is flaking off the lamp shade and the lower portion of the center band. One rest is worn from the wire wheel. The glass in the shields is good.
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ZBear
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I'd like to find a decent Craftsman box grinder. I had a 1725 rpm motor on bench with grinder wheels on it. I used it for correct motor when I restored drill press. Using a 3450 motor off a table saw right now but it is too fast. Anything decent around here is costly or too far for me to travel.
lafester
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I just came back from Iowa with a pretty nice 1/2 hp round top. It was on marketplace for at least 3 weeks before I got it. I know there was a nice baldor as well but it was gone before I got there.
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Is there something special about the grinder? I have one that is very similar, although the light cover, and other shields are missing. It also vibrates around the table when at full speed. Was about to get rid of it but kept it around to use the motor to power a fan for painting.I picked up this 397.19580 1/3 hp bench grinder today at an estate sale. It was born on July 14 1969.
Missing the rubber feet and one wheel cover. The paint is flaking off the lamp shade and the lower portion of the center band. One rest is worn from the wire wheel. The glass in the shields is good.
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lafester
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That particular one is fairly common and fairly low power but has the iconic craftsman grinder look with the glass eye shields and mailbox shape. Take the wheels off and see if it still vibrates. Using one to power a fan would be kind of 'cool'.
Craptain
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Cough.... Gasp....
The Craftsman block grinder is possibly the best of all the "homeowner" grinders made. They also made industrial rated ones in higher hp. In working unrestored condition they typically fetch around $40. Reconditioned and that because $75 to $90 and fully restored much higher. My last block grinder ran smoothly and continued spinning for almost a full minute after I switched it off.
My recommendation is that you take some time to investigate what is actually wrong with yours. Start with new wheels and see how it goes. Next would be open it up and clean inside and while you are there you might as well put new bearings in. With that simple work you should have a high quality grinder that runs smooth and strong.
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dp#72
dp#72 is another Dunlap 12-1/4" drill press model 103.23622. It came with a rather large 1/2 hp Wagner motor that weighs just about as much as the whole drill press.
These 12-1/4" machines are rather nice if the bronze sleeve bearings are in good shape.
10/27/2019
This machine came apart fairly easy. I had to file off the burrs caused by the pulley set screws before the splined pulley shaft could slide out of the sleeve bearing.
10/29/2019
The left side motor mount bolt was snapped flush with the head frame casting. I eventually got it out without inflicting any damage.
The original paint is not perfect, but it cleaned up beautifully!
10/31/2019
The refurb of dp#72 is complete.
dp#72 is another Dunlap 12-1/4" drill press model 103.23622. It came with a rather large 1/2 hp Wagner motor that weighs just about as much as the whole drill press.
These 12-1/4" machines are rather nice if the bronze sleeve bearings are in good shape.
10/27/2019
This machine came apart fairly easy. I had to file off the burrs caused by the pulley set screws before the splined pulley shaft could slide out of the sleeve bearing.
10/29/2019
The left side motor mount bolt was snapped flush with the head frame casting. I eventually got it out without inflicting any damage.
The original paint is not perfect, but it cleaned up beautifully!
10/31/2019
The refurb of dp#72 is complete.
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Most of the markings are faded but here are a couple of pictures if it. I pulled the sanding wheel and wire wheel off and it tab very smooth. Put the wire wheel only and still ran well, so thinking the sanding wheel is probably out of balance. Does have some adhesive left on it, but glad I hadn't put it out for the scrappers.
Any suggestions for shields and a replacement light?
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Most of the markings are faded but here are a couple of pictures if it. I pulled the sanding wheel and wire wheel off and it tab very smooth. Put the wire wheel only and still ran well, so thinking the sanding wheel is probably out of balance. Does have some adhesive left on it, but glad I hadn't put it out for the scrappers.
Any suggestions for shields and a replacement light?
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Most of the markings are faded but here are a couple of pictures if it. I pulled the sanding wheel and wire wheel off and it tab very smooth. Put the wire wheel only and still ran well, so thinking the sanding wheel is probably out of balance. Does have some adhesive left on it, but glad I hadn't put it out for the scrappers.
Any suggestions for shields and a replacement light?
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Hello sir! Those are great grinders and will last a lifetime. This thread will answer all your questions, and possibly create more[emoji23]
Try to ask your question on this thread, these guys should have the parts you need!
let's see your craftsman block grinders
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157794
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Smokeshow69
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What is the multi speed attachment on this Dunlap model 80? It doesn’t look factory but appears to be an off brand? Can any one identify it?
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My swag would be home made, but I dunno.
That's a 12-1/4" drill press. If Craftsman branded, it would be a model 80 made before 1950. If Dunlap branded, it's a Bronze Bearing Drill Press, 1950 or later.
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Smokeshow69
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How good are those? Can you replace the bearings with conventional ball bearings?
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If there is no noticeable spindle play in the quill, they are decent small drill presses.
I inherited a 12-1/4" drill press that was my dad's and used it for 25+ years before I got my 15-1/2" dp#1. My brother has it now.
My last two acquisitions were 12-1/4" machines. Both have good sleeve bearings.
It's not practically possible to convert these to ball bearing.
Smokeshow69
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Makes sense... I thought maybe the bearing holes were the same size but guess not. I will have to see if the seller even wants to sell separately. It is listed with about 15 other vintage wood working machines and is just posted as one big lot.
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Smokeshow69
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I know that they are not worth much. If I get it I do have an eta correct craftsman low rpm motor rat holed away for the right time [emoji51]
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lafester
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
They are $150 - 200 easy around here. Only the occasional deal pops up.
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They are $150 - 200 easy around here. Only the occasional deal pops up.
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Smokeshow69
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Oh wow[emoji15] those go for around $60-$100 here in the Pacific Northwest. Of course, Mohawk drill presses and varislow units are about $25 in the motherland- Chicago and Detroit area [emoji28][emoji15]
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Oh wow[emoji15] those go for around $60-$100 here in the Pacific Northwest. Of course, Mohawk drill presses and varislow units are about $25 in the motherland- Chicago and Detroit area [emoji28][emoji15]
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Tim the toolman
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Looking for parts help. Recently got my dads old drill press.
Model 150 1963 103.24511
I need the feed return spring pn 38989
Any suggestions
Thanks
Tim
Model 150 1963 103.24511
I need the feed return spring pn 38989
Any suggestions
Thanks
Tim
Smokeshow69
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Hello Tim! I don’t have one but some one on here may! If no one here does, eBay has them come up from time to time! We always like pictures of your machine if you have some ?
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Rileysan
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Smokeshow has been a terrible influence, of late. Or a good one depending on your perspective.
This DP100 can home with me a couple months ago. Most importantly is the Atlas table lift that came with it. The seller listed it on CL for $125 but because of my work schedule, it was going to be 5 days before I could meet the seller. Because of that, I offered the seller$150 if he would hold it until the weekend. He agreed
Brian
This DP100 can home with me a couple months ago. Most importantly is the Atlas table lift that came with it. The seller listed it on CL for $125 but because of my work schedule, it was going to be 5 days before I could meet the seller. Because of that, I offered the seller$150 if he would hold it until the weekend. He agreed
Brian
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Smokeshow69
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Smokeshow has been a terrible influence, of late. Or a good one depending on your perspective.
This DP100 can home with me a couple months ago. Most importantly is the Atlas table lift that came with it. The seller listed it on CL for $125 but because of my work schedule, it was going to be 5 days before I could meet the seller. Because of that, I offered the seller$150 if he would hold it until the weekend. He agreed
Brian
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kirk69nova
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Looking at a Craftsman benchtop DP. Seller wants $100. Model number 10323640. It is grey with craftsman logo and machined strip on the top. It has two handles with knobs. From my quick research this looks like a model 80 or 100. My question is does this one have bushings or bearings? I am going to look at it today. Will I be able to determine bushings/bearings without tearing too far into it? Any input on this is appreciated.
Kirk
Kirk
Smokeshow69
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If it is an 80, I believe it has bronze bushings? You can look at catalogs to verify but I can’t check until tonight... plug the 103.23640 into the internet and the owners manual will come up on old world wood working!
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The 23640 is a 13-1/2" model with ball bearings. The spindle pulley ball bearings and quill ball bearings in a 13-1/2" drill press are identical to the 15-1/2" drill press.
In addition, the spindle diameter, quill diameter, pulley step diameters are also identical to the 15-1/2" models. The differences between the 13-1/2" and 15-1/2" models are that the spindle length, quill length and throat depth are all slightly shorter.
You are correct... it is a model 80 or 100. If it was manufactured in 1949 or before, it's a model 100. If manufactured in 1950 or after, it's a model 80.
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kirk69nova
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Thank you so much for replying back. From what I’ve read throughout this and other threads $100 is about the right price for a working DP. Would you guys agree?
Condition, optional accessories or attachments, region and want-vs.-need are all major factors in price. If in decent shape with no parts missing, yes, I would agree that $100 is about right for a standard drill press. If any accessories are included, $100 is a better bargain.
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kirk69nova
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I don’t have pics of it but it is complete and runs. The paint is chipped. Not sure what, if any, accessories it will come with. The guy has been difficult to communicate with the last few days so we will see how it goes.
Smokeshow69
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Did the seller get back to you?
I am looking for a bench top model here in Portland now that I have gotten rid of a ton of stuff this summer! I am hoping to find a nice one with original paint like franklee seems to always find!
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jerryd67
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I picked up a model 150 pretty cheap on GSA auctions recently, but it has a base on it unlike any I've seen before, and wanted to see if anyone could shed any light on it. The column had also been changed out to a non-standard column (shorter and too thin-walled), but I've got a donor column (and base) from another rust-bucket I found locally on FB marketplace. This base is about 1 inch narrower in both directions (16 x 22 vs. 17 x 23) than the normal floor base, but the interesting thing is that instead of a shoe-type set-up, it uses cam locks that are pretty much identical to the table and head frame locks.
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Yeah, I think maybe from a model 1060 or similar vintage
Smokeshow69
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I agree. In my head I thought that but didn’t want to be the first to say it since I don’t know much about atlas
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kirk69nova
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Seller seems to be turning out to be a Craigslist flake. I have texted twice and no reply.