Craftsman Drill Press

[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Picked up a new project today. Already has a jack shaft pulley in the post. Been looking for a mohawk for quite a while.

Looks like a fun project!

 

[Cruzan80]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Curious how the jack shaft would affect operation in day-to-day.

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[Reversepolarity]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Curious how the jack shaft would affect operation in day-to-day.

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Should work fine. I built one for the post. On the 150 I restored.


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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Should work fine. I built one for the post. On the 150 I restored.

The way the previous owner had that middle pulley set up, I can't picture anything but the chuck spinning faster. The smallest pulley step on all three pulleys is facing up.

 

[ttpete]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

The way the previous owner had that middle pulley set up, I can't picture anything but the chuck spinning faster. The smallest pulley step on all three pulleys is facing up.

The jackshaft pulley small step needs to be facing down. The motor pulley and spindle pulley should face up.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

The jackshaft pulley small step needs to be facing down. The motor pulley and spindle pulley should face up.

Yeah,
I will fix that on the tear down.


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[Mr.N]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Picked up a new project today. Already has a jack shaft pulley in the post. Been looking for a mohawk for quite a while.

Ok, just added one to the list!
Love the three pulleys

 

[Bro-Dozer]

For future reference:

Jacobs Multi-Craft Chuck MC8K33 uses a modern Jacobs chuck key 30052 [KK].

 

[Steve7931]

I have a Craftsman 101 Series Floor Model Drill Press that I acquired since it was missing some parts. I was able to source everything I need with the exception of the elusive spindle, aka, quill cover. I know that there is a plastic version that someone created on eBay but I would like to find an original. Any assistance would be great. New to the group. Thanks for letting me join.

 

[FrankLee]

I have a Craftsman 101 Series Floor Model Drill Press that I acquired since it was missing some parts. I was able to source everything I need with the exception of the elusive spindle, aka, quill cover. I know that there is a plastic version that someone created on eBay but I would like to find an original. Any assistance would be great. New to the group. Thanks for letting me join.

Welcome Steve!

Those spindle guards are often missing as it was on my dp#97.

Please post some pictures of your machine when you're able.

 

[AtlasRearden]

I went to pick up some paint for a couple projects and saw this Rustoleum Black Stainless Steel. It looks very close to some oe motor paint colors and not too far off of the darker drill press paint. Cap color, though, is never an exact indicator of actual contents.

Thanks for posting. I'm starting to lean heavily toward the Flat Soft Iron, as I just like the way it looks and is close enough to original "in spirit" for my taste.

I tried to test for runout on my particular machine. I'm not sure if I'm doing this exactly right, and I'm using a cheapie $15 dial indicator, but it appears to only show 0.007" runout. I'm assuming this is pretty good. Hopefully I don't mess it up after taking it all apart and putting it back together again.

 

[FrankLee]

Thanks for posting. I'm starting to lean heavily toward the Flat Soft Iron, as I just like the way it looks and is close enough to original "in spirit" for my taste.

I tried to test for runout on my particular machine. I'm not sure if I'm doing this exactly right, and I'm using a cheapie $15 dial indicator, but it appears to only show 0.007" runout. I'm assuming this is pretty good. Hopefully I don't mess it up after taking it all apart and putting it back together again.

I usually chuck a precision rod (a drill bit will work) and measure on that. Or I measure on the taper after the chuck is removed. I don't think the safety collar is the best place to check runout.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6507328
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8639803


Excellent choice of paint color!

 

[AtlasRearden]

I tried it on the chuck itself and got only 0.005" runout:



Then, per your suggestion, stuck in a drill bit and got 0.0075":



I'm finding the lowest reading, then zeroing out with a micro adjust on my magnetic base. Then find the reading from there.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Cleaned up the Mohawk today. Just have to shear a piece of polished stainless for the front at work on Monday.
Bought it to completely restore and flip. But this one just got a user cleanup. And will get mounted to the bench. I would regret selling this one. It runs like a champ.







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[Smokeshow69]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Cleaned up the Mohawk today. Just have to shear a piece of polished stainless for the front at work on Monday.
Bought it to completely restore and flip. But this one just got a user cleanup. And will get mounted to the bench. I would regret selling this one. It runs like a champ.







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Well if you do ever get the urge to flip this one, please let me know... I see you are just 1 northern state away from me. I drooled over this thing on the crafstman fb page...I said it there and I will say it here, you **** majorly!

 

[Hoorn]

For those with the early 50s tilt table, does it accurately hold angles, or do you use/prefer an angled drill press vice instead?

Frank, out of curiosity, the drill presses you have are mounted on pedestals. Perhaps youve addressed it, but what is the purpose of having your DPs on those pedestals? Are they mobile?

 

[FrankLee]

For those with the early 50s tilt table, does it accurately hold angles, or do you use/prefer an angled drill press vice instead?

Frank, out of curiosity, the drill presses you have are mounted on pedestals. Perhaps youve addressed it, but what is the purpose of having your DPs on those pedestals? Are they mobile?

I don't recall ever using the tilt feature of the table, so I can't comment.

Those pedestals are mobile bases. They are awesome! Yes, I do have a post about them:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6025956

 

[Hoorn]

Picked this up today simply because the seller agreed on $20. I may just clean it up and part it out on eBay, but impossible to resist for that price.

Seems like half the 150s out there have the bolt on receptacle box with switch, I couldn't get that off fast enough.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Helluva deal


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[smalltown]

Greta find. Not that I would know any better, but that motor looks "beefier"

 

[FrankLee]

Picked this up today simply because the seller agreed on $20. I may just clean it up and part it out on eBay, but impossible to resist for that price.

Seems like half the 150s out there have the bolt on receptacle box with switch, I couldn't get that off fast enough.

Helluva deal

Greta find. Not that I would know any better, but that motor looks "beefier"

DITTO!

Too bad about the table and the missing knob. Besides the electrical ***********, the PO had the table lock cylinder installed backwards. The feed stop rod looks like acme threads, but there is no rapid adjust. The feed stop nuts must be acme also? If so, that's an unusual combination.

What is the date code on the motor badge?

What thread size are the hub-ends of the feed handles?


If you do part-out, a member here needs that spring:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=476021





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[Hoorn]

Appears the date code is 1966.
The feed handles are the 1/2 13 style.
It is indeed an acme thread and great eyes Frank, the feed stop nuts have no rapid adjust.
Band cleaned up nicely though.
I had the table clamped up last night with JB Weld and I'll see what I can do about fading in the repaired crack. There is a reason it was $20.
PO had that custom receptacle and switch hard wired into the motor, was there no on/off switch on these outside mount capacitor motors?

 

[Hoorn]

The owners manual (not that the illustrations in the owner's manual always accurately depict reality) for this model DP shows the ribbed Jacobs 633C, this one is smooth. Because of the early 50s feed stop lock nuts and this smooth Jacob's Chuck it appears this press has had parts pulled from other machines.

Also, at some point were the table lock and headlock handles given a black oxide like finish by Sears?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Appears the date code is 1966.
The feed handles are the 1/2 13 style.
It is indeed an acme thread and great eyes Frank, the feed stop nuts have no rapid adjust.
Band cleaned up nicely though.
I had the table clamped up last night with JB Weld and I'll see what I can do about fading in the repaired crack. There is a reason it was $20.
PO had that custom receptacle and switch hard wired into the motor, was there no on/off switch on these outside mount capacitor motors?

I had a that exact motor on my powerbronze floor model and it didnt have a switch... I had to plug it in to start it... not super safe

 

[FrankLee]

Appears the date code is 1966.
The feed handles are the 1/2 13 style.
It is indeed an acme thread and great eyes Frank, the feed stop nuts have no rapid adjust.
Band cleaned up nicely though.
I had the table clamped up last night with JB Weld and I'll see what I can do about fading in the repaired crack. There is a reason it was $20.
PO had that custom receptacle and switch hard wired into the motor, was there no on/off switch on these outside mount capacitor motors?

No, those later aluminum motors did not come equipped with switches. Sears sold optional add-on switches and other options.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5753907&post5753907
Foot switches are a wonderful thing.

The owners manual (not that the illustrations in the owner's manual always accurately depict reality) for this model DP shows the ribbed Jacobs 633C, this one is smooth. Because of the early 50s feed stop lock nuts and this smooth Jacob's Chuck it appears this press has had parts pulled from other machines.

Also, at some point were the table lock and headlock handles given a black oxide like finish by Sears?

I've had plenty of both styles of Jacobs chucks, but never have been able to determine which was used when. I do think that your smooth-sleeve chuck may be original to that machine. And you're correct... catalog illustrations did not always reflect reality.

I also suspect those feed stop lock nuts are not oe. I've never seen a diagonal knurled thumb nut anywhere.

Yes, I think all those taper lock handles (and some other parts on later 150s) had a black finish. That finish will always come off in vinegar/citric acid... not sure about evaporust.

 

[vertguy]

Yes, I think all those taper lock handles (and some other parts on later 150s) had a black finish. That finish will always come off in vinegar/citric acid... not sure about evaporust.

I can confirm Evaporust does indeed remove the black handle finish. Since my 150 is pretty much all original, I want to try some gun bluing to rectify that screw up.




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[FrankLee]

I can confirm Evaporust does indeed remove the black handle finish. Since my 150 is pretty much all original, I want to try some gun bluing to rectify that screw up.

Thanks for confirming!

 

[Outlawmws]

Black oxides will ALWAYS come off with de-rusting solutions...

I have a shotgun I got cheap as someone spilled OJ on the barrel...

 

[Hoorn]

I thought it appropriate to share this "The One that got away" story on this thread. 2 days ago I saw a CDP on OfferUp with the Vari-Slow option listed for $100. It wasn't even on for an hour when I immediately respond and offer over asking. Seller says "sorry, someone is already ahead of you in line, but if he does not show in the next hour it's yours"

45 minutes later I text him and ask if the guy showed, he said yes it's already gone. On a hunch I text a buddy of mine that is also always on the lookout for a great deal and ask, did you grab that DP with the Vari-Slow for $100? One minute later he texted me back with the last picture, the one where the drill press is in the back of his truck and he replied, "who me?"


He told me the Vari-Slow was not even attached, that it was merely loosely on top of the press as the guy did not know how to use it. He said it was basically in new condition. He also asked, "were you the guy that offered $80 more to bump me from the front of the line?" I told him yes, it's war out there when it comes to a CDP with Vari-Slow or the MSA. He also mentioned the owner was quite pleased about that steering wheel he had mounted on the feed handle.

Took me hours to stop thinking about it.

 

[smalltown]

Hoorn something similar happed to me. I saw a Craftsman drill press on Craigslist with the vari-slow attached **** it was gone.

 

[Hoorn]

Hoorn something similar happed to me. I saw a Craftsman drill press on Craigslist with the vari-slow attached **** it was gone.

Yes, this one was very tough pill to swallow. The owner even threw in all three drill press vises shown.

I've been selling a few parts on OfferUp from a CPD I'm parting out and one of the guys bidding on my items just asked me minutes ago, hey did you see that DP on OfferUp two days ago with the varislow for $100?

 

[FrankLee]

Yep, most of us have been there. What really hurts is when you are first and it gets sold out from under you.

 

[Hoorn]

Yep, most of us have been there. What really hurts is when you are first and it gets sold out from under you.

You are so right. When I bid over $100 he had not told me yet that he already had a buyer lined up. I just assumed a bunch of offers were pouring in at that time and I wanted to make my offer appealing. When he told me I was second in line, that waiting period was very difficult.

That steering wheel was a pretty eccentric addition to the feed hub. Frank, have you seen worse?

 

[FrankLee]

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That steering wheel was a pretty eccentric addition to the feed hub. Frank, have you seen worse?

I've seen a ton of WTF-ness and that is right up there with the WTF-est.

My first thought was, Does the horn work?

 

[y'sguy]

You are so right. When I bid over $100 he had not told me yet that he already had a buyer lined up. I just assumed a bunch of offers were pouring in at that time and I wanted to make my offer appealing. When he told me I was second in line, that waiting period was very difficult.

That steering wheel was a pretty eccentric addition to the feed hub. Frank, have you seen worse?

The steering wheel is indeed an oddity for the drill press However, you may be surprised what THOSE bring on ebay as well.

 

[Cruzan80]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I think it was a conversion done after someone had seen a Bridgeport with the quill handle modified. However, those can be removed/replaced much easier. Also, drilling/milling to a specific depth can be much more precise on a mill than a drill press feed-stop.

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[drokihazan]

Hi. I've found a CL post in my local area for a Craftsman 150 drill press. I'm looking for a drill press I can drill mild steel and aluminum with, and probably never holes bigger than 1/2". It looks okay, though it hasn't been used in a long time. It's a benchtop model, which I would prefer for my space, and is black or very dark grey, not super rusty, and has a 1/3 HP "Companion" motor on it. The owner says it only has 1 pulley, not two, and that it runs well. Is this something worth buying for his $145 asking price? I offered $100 and he seemed uninterested, but says I'm also the highest offer and he's been getting lowballed around $50 all day.

I looked at this thread a little bit, but I don't know much about these presses and it looks like the late-model 150 with only 1 pulley, he didn't mention anything about variable speeds.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Hi. I've found a CL post in my local area for a Craftsman 150 drill press. I'm looking for a drill press I can drill mild steel and aluminum with, and probably never holes bigger than 1/2". It looks okay, though it hasn't been used in a long time. It's a benchtop model, which I would prefer for my space, and is black or very dark grey, not super rusty, and has a 1/3 HP "Companion" motor on it. The owner says it only has 1 pulley, not two, and that it runs well. Is this something worth buying for his $145 asking price? I offered $100 and he seemed uninterested, but says I'm also the highest offer and he's been getting lowballed around $50 all day.

I looked at this thread a little bit, but I don't know much about these presses and it looks like the late-model 150 with only 1 pulley, he didn't mention anything about variable speeds.

Hello and welcome! Without pictures we cant accurately answer your question but sounds like you made the right offer ? Next to craftsman table saws, drill presses seem to have the most uninformed sellers or dreamers when it comes to pricing...a mint one with Varislow may be priced at $50 while the next one on ebay with a broken varislow and rusting in a scrap pile may be priced at $500 for over a year (true story)... Post some pictures of the ad when you can but crop the pictures out so all you post is just the picture, no classified location information.

 

[drokihazan]

Hello and welcome! Without pictures we cant accurately answer your question but sounds like you made the right offer ? Next to craftsman table saws, drill presses seem to have the most uninformed sellers or dreamers when it comes to pricing...a mint one with Varislow may be priced at $50 while the next one on ebay with a broken varislow and rusting in a scrap pile may be priced at $500 for over a year (true story)... Post some pictures of the ad when you can but crop the pictures out so all you post is just the picture, no classified location information.

Sure thing.
Here's some of the ad images. He didn't post any showing a spindle speed chart or the pulleys, or any close-ups of the chuck.

https://imgur.com/a/kQdlF7G

 

[FrankLee]

Sure thing.
Here's some of the ad images. He didn't post any showing a spindle speed chart or the pulleys, or any close-ups of the chuck.

Welcome!

The pictures help a lot. It does appear to be in pretty good condition. The motor is much earlier than the drill press tho; ~pre-1950 vs '63-'66.

You haven't disclosed your location... that can make a difference in price.

IF there are no missing parts, and IF runout is acceptable, and IF it meets your needs, IMO, that asking price is not out of line. I'd keep inching up from your offer until he accepts.