ajohno
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Well done mate.
Above 1200 Sq/FT DFB's Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Thanks, although some would say otherwise. I've had an awful couple of weeks.
customh
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I think theories should be tested. I suppose they'll want a SN to allow you to order the parts though. I suppose if your dealer was inclined they would let you borrow the SN of their collector piece.
Battery vs petrol — a conundrum that is just as divisive in the garden care industry as it is with cars. There will be those who refuse to entertain battery power, while others see it as a cleaner, easier proposition. For the average consumer tending to their garden at the weekend, battery power is the move. Most petrol-powered tools suffer from sitting for long periods of time, usually from gummed-up fuel systems. For the professional user, though, the debate is more involved.
Firstly, I think you want battery power where it makes sense. Hedge trimmers, pruning saws, and grass trimmers are far nicer to use when battery powered. For example, a hedge trimmer is often held at head height and at awkward angles and elevations. A 2-stroke engine banging away at eye level is super noisy and super fatiguing on your shoulders and neck. Battery power usually means a lighter, quieter machine — in other words, less fatiguing.
But there are certain areas where battery power just isn't possible or time efficient. For me, that applies to lawn mowers and leaf blowers. I need sustained performance for both, especially in summer on long, thick grass, and in autumn when a blower is held wide open for extended periods of time. From experience, once you put electric under load, it drains batteries super quick. Blowers in particular seem to deplete even the most robust battery eco-system. The same applies to chainsaws making moderate to large cuts. And that's before you consider the investment required to buy enough batteries to keep you running throughout the day, and then making sure to put everything on a charger at the end.
So, in 2026 petrol power still has its place, but the benefits of battery power make it hard to ignore.
In my business, I wasn't the first to move into battery-powered garden tools, but then I'm hardly late to the party either. Those first purchases were in 2018 — a Stihl HSA 56 hedge trimmer and the HSA 25 handheld clippers. When I bought the HSA 56, I kept my petrol-powered HS 45 just in case — and never used it again. From there, I added blowers, a chainsaw, pole saw, and long-reach hedger.
For the last decade, Stihl have been offering three different battery ecosystems, in turn providing a solution to every type of user. All three differ in battery design, charging system, and the physical size of the tool itself, with no interchangeability between them. They do this to optimise the cost and performance demanded by each consumer type.
AS System – This is the entry-level solution for occasional users. Originally, many of these tools had an integrated lithium-ion battery, but later evolved to have external 10.8V batteries. Lightweight and ease of use are the focus here.
AK System – A mid-tier option for residential and light commercial use. These tools are based around a 36V battery in three capacities. This larger battery supports longer running times and larger tools in general. The above-mentioned hedge trimmers and saws run on the AK battery system, and I've found them a nice balance for my needs.
AP System – These are professional-grade tools designed for frequent heavy use. Also based around a 36V architecture, the batteries are physically larger and heavier for increased output and performance. The AP system got a refresh for Stihl's 100th year, with 60% more peak power and faster charging, able to reach 80% charge in just 9 minutes with the quick-charge function.
In terms of the AS system, I already had the ASA 20 and HTA 25, and the charger and batteries to support them. Picking up my prize yesterday, I now have an assortment of AS system tools. These won't be used commercially, rather around my own garden and garage. Unlike the AK and AP systems, there is only one battery within the AS range, the AS-2, and two different chargers, the AL-1 and ALS-31.
The one annoyance I have with buying battery tools is the dance you play around skin or kit. In particular, you get one or the other: the kit, with significantly discounted batteries and a charger, or simply the tool alone. So, if you decide to take advantage of discounted batteries, you then end up with redundant chargers clogging up your cabinets. And it's not like you can sell the chargers — everyone ends up in the same predicament. I find this a somewhat wasteful use of the world's resources and landfill capacity.
In my case, I now have five AS-2 batteries, but also three battery chargers.
So, enough babble, it's time to open some boxes. Of everything in the prize haul, the RCA 20 mini pressure washer interests me most, so let's kick off with that.....
Firstly, I think you want battery power where it makes sense. Hedge trimmers, pruning saws, and grass trimmers are far nicer to use when battery powered. For example, a hedge trimmer is often held at head height and at awkward angles and elevations. A 2-stroke engine banging away at eye level is super noisy and super fatiguing on your shoulders and neck. Battery power usually means a lighter, quieter machine — in other words, less fatiguing.
But there are certain areas where battery power just isn't possible or time efficient. For me, that applies to lawn mowers and leaf blowers. I need sustained performance for both, especially in summer on long, thick grass, and in autumn when a blower is held wide open for extended periods of time. From experience, once you put electric under load, it drains batteries super quick. Blowers in particular seem to deplete even the most robust battery eco-system. The same applies to chainsaws making moderate to large cuts. And that's before you consider the investment required to buy enough batteries to keep you running throughout the day, and then making sure to put everything on a charger at the end.
So, in 2026 petrol power still has its place, but the benefits of battery power make it hard to ignore.
In my business, I wasn't the first to move into battery-powered garden tools, but then I'm hardly late to the party either. Those first purchases were in 2018 — a Stihl HSA 56 hedge trimmer and the HSA 25 handheld clippers. When I bought the HSA 56, I kept my petrol-powered HS 45 just in case — and never used it again. From there, I added blowers, a chainsaw, pole saw, and long-reach hedger.
For the last decade, Stihl have been offering three different battery ecosystems, in turn providing a solution to every type of user. All three differ in battery design, charging system, and the physical size of the tool itself, with no interchangeability between them. They do this to optimise the cost and performance demanded by each consumer type.
AS System – This is the entry-level solution for occasional users. Originally, many of these tools had an integrated lithium-ion battery, but later evolved to have external 10.8V batteries. Lightweight and ease of use are the focus here.
AK System – A mid-tier option for residential and light commercial use. These tools are based around a 36V battery in three capacities. This larger battery supports longer running times and larger tools in general. The above-mentioned hedge trimmers and saws run on the AK battery system, and I've found them a nice balance for my needs.
AP System – These are professional-grade tools designed for frequent heavy use. Also based around a 36V architecture, the batteries are physically larger and heavier for increased output and performance. The AP system got a refresh for Stihl's 100th year, with 60% more peak power and faster charging, able to reach 80% charge in just 9 minutes with the quick-charge function.
In terms of the AS system, I already had the ASA 20 and HTA 25, and the charger and batteries to support them. Picking up my prize yesterday, I now have an assortment of AS system tools. These won't be used commercially, rather around my own garden and garage. Unlike the AK and AP systems, there is only one battery within the AS range, the AS-2, and two different chargers, the AL-1 and ALS-31.
The one annoyance I have with buying battery tools is the dance you play around skin or kit. In particular, you get one or the other: the kit, with significantly discounted batteries and a charger, or simply the tool alone. So, if you decide to take advantage of discounted batteries, you then end up with redundant chargers clogging up your cabinets. And it's not like you can sell the chargers — everyone ends up in the same predicament. I find this a somewhat wasteful use of the world's resources and landfill capacity.
In my case, I now have five AS-2 batteries, but also three battery chargers.
So, enough babble, it's time to open some boxes. Of everything in the prize haul, the RCA 20 mini pressure washer interests me most, so let's kick off with that.....
RCA 20 Pressure Washer -
The RCA 20 is a small, handheld, battery-powered pressure washer. This style of machine isn't unique to Stihl — multiple tool manufacturers had come up with something similar before Stihl launched their version last year. But Stihl is fast becoming a battery power expert, so it was natural for them to do something of their own.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/press...sher-as-system-203022#rca-20-skin-only-203022
So, what do you get? The RCA 20 is available in two formats:
RCA 20 Kit – Machine, accessories, two batteries and a charger
RCA 20 Skin – Machine and accessories only
Mine came as a skin, with batteries and charger coming from elsewhere in the overall prize. In addition to the machine itself, you get a handy bundle of accessories:
- 4-in-1 nozzle, with jet, fan, turbo and flood modes
- Spray lance extension
- Soap cannon
- Vacuum hoses with filter
- Water pouch
- Storage bag
The nozzle attachment can be used with or without the extension. Using the vacuum hose, you can siphon water from a bucket or the supplied pouch. Note how I didn't call the soap cannon a "foam" cannon — you won't be generating foam from that thing, primarily because the machine itself just doesn't produce enough pressure to make that possible. However, you could fill it with an APC like Purple Power or Surfex to get some pre-soak action going before the rinse off.
The unit with a battery fitted is super light and ergonomic, even when you have a hose connected to the inlet. The machine powers up automatically when the trigger is squeezed. When not in use, you can lock the trigger to avoid activating the pump. There is a battery charge indicator on the back of the unit, and an eco mode to extend the running time, which you'd realistically never bother with. The soap cannon features an adjustment dial, though again you'll likely run it wide open. Each attachment is connected with a bayonet push-and-turn arrangement.
Let's be clear here, this isn't going to clean your driveway or, if I'm honest, a whole car. With its compact size and user-friendly approachability, the RCA 20 would be perfect for smaller spaces with restricted storage or connections to water and power. Think apartment blocks and courtyards — ideal for cleaning windows and outdoor furniture. As such, the spec sheet reads rather modestly.
Max Pressure – 350 psi
Max Water Flow – 230 LPH (3.8 LPM)
Weight – 1.3 kg (2.8 lbs)
Min Run Time – 8 min
Max Run Time – 15 min
For context, an equivalently priced Karcher K2 would make 1700 psi and 6.0 LPM (1.6 GPM). My big dog, the Kranzle KHD10, does 1500 psi and a strong 11 LPM (2.9 GPM). But that's missing the point — the RCA 20 is what it is: light, compact, easy to handle. And because there's no separate gun and hose, you never have to deal with the chronically awful hoses that come with cheap pressure washers. Invest in a great garden hose, though. Funnily, I used my German-made Gardena hose — a brand which sits under the same company group that owns Husqvarna — sorry, Stihl.
I used the RCA 20 on the Wildtrak today. Not the whole vehicle — the lack of pressure and flow rate meant it wouldn't have been time efficient. However, it tackled smaller parts such as the floor mats, side steps, wheels and tyres. I really like how wieldy it is, be that the low weight or the ergonomic balance. It's also nice and quiet, with an instant start response and none of the wheeziness some pressure washers exhibit. Build quality is exceptional, and the bayonet fittings are smooth and secure.
So, that's the RCA 20. It's not going to clean your whole house or car, but as an addition to a lineup of AS batteries, it's a handy little thing.
The RCA 20 is a small, handheld, battery-powered pressure washer. This style of machine isn't unique to Stihl — multiple tool manufacturers had come up with something similar before Stihl launched their version last year. But Stihl is fast becoming a battery power expert, so it was natural for them to do something of their own.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/press...sher-as-system-203022#rca-20-skin-only-203022
So, what do you get? The RCA 20 is available in two formats:
RCA 20 Kit – Machine, accessories, two batteries and a charger
RCA 20 Skin – Machine and accessories only
Mine came as a skin, with batteries and charger coming from elsewhere in the overall prize. In addition to the machine itself, you get a handy bundle of accessories:
- 4-in-1 nozzle, with jet, fan, turbo and flood modes
- Spray lance extension
- Soap cannon
- Vacuum hoses with filter
- Water pouch
- Storage bag
The nozzle attachment can be used with or without the extension. Using the vacuum hose, you can siphon water from a bucket or the supplied pouch. Note how I didn't call the soap cannon a "foam" cannon — you won't be generating foam from that thing, primarily because the machine itself just doesn't produce enough pressure to make that possible. However, you could fill it with an APC like Purple Power or Surfex to get some pre-soak action going before the rinse off.
The unit with a battery fitted is super light and ergonomic, even when you have a hose connected to the inlet. The machine powers up automatically when the trigger is squeezed. When not in use, you can lock the trigger to avoid activating the pump. There is a battery charge indicator on the back of the unit, and an eco mode to extend the running time, which you'd realistically never bother with. The soap cannon features an adjustment dial, though again you'll likely run it wide open. Each attachment is connected with a bayonet push-and-turn arrangement.
Let's be clear here, this isn't going to clean your driveway or, if I'm honest, a whole car. With its compact size and user-friendly approachability, the RCA 20 would be perfect for smaller spaces with restricted storage or connections to water and power. Think apartment blocks and courtyards — ideal for cleaning windows and outdoor furniture. As such, the spec sheet reads rather modestly.
Max Pressure – 350 psi
Max Water Flow – 230 LPH (3.8 LPM)
Weight – 1.3 kg (2.8 lbs)
Min Run Time – 8 min
Max Run Time – 15 min
For context, an equivalently priced Karcher K2 would make 1700 psi and 6.0 LPM (1.6 GPM). My big dog, the Kranzle KHD10, does 1500 psi and a strong 11 LPM (2.9 GPM). But that's missing the point — the RCA 20 is what it is: light, compact, easy to handle. And because there's no separate gun and hose, you never have to deal with the chronically awful hoses that come with cheap pressure washers. Invest in a great garden hose, though. Funnily, I used my German-made Gardena hose — a brand which sits under the same company group that owns Husqvarna — sorry, Stihl.
I used the RCA 20 on the Wildtrak today. Not the whole vehicle — the lack of pressure and flow rate meant it wouldn't have been time efficient. However, it tackled smaller parts such as the floor mats, side steps, wheels and tyres. I really like how wieldy it is, be that the low weight or the ergonomic balance. It's also nice and quiet, with an instant start response and none of the wheeziness some pressure washers exhibit. Build quality is exceptional, and the bayonet fittings are smooth and secure.
So, that's the RCA 20. It's not going to clean your whole house or car, but as an addition to a lineup of AS batteries, it's a handy little thing.
littlebean
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sounds interesting and, as you say, useful in the right places - congrats on your win
KOA 20 Battery Air Inflator (Kit) –
Who here hates pulling up at your local petrol station to fill tyres with air? You know how it is: parking next to a hose reel that doesn't work properly, snagging the hose on the tyres, leaking connections, an inaccurate pressure gauge, and a grotty inflator covered in funk. Yeah, not my idea of fun. So, you either dealt with that annoyance, or went and bought an air compressor of some sort.
I've had a decent air compressor for 15 years, initially purchased for tyres, but also useful for detailing tools. And while I now have a retractable hose reel, I always detest firing up the noisy compressor and attempting to manage the hose while avoiding smacking it into a car. But that all changed once tool companies started making battery-powered compressors/inflators. Compact inflators always existed, but you were tethered to a power cord or jumper leads and all the inconvenience that comes with that. So, you no longer have a hose or cord trailing behind you. Instead, you get a thoroughly portable solution that isn't limited to the confines of your garage — think road trips, worksites, camping. For example, inflating camping beds, or as a backup should you run into trouble on the open road.
Put it this way: I haven't filled tyres with my compressor since getting a Milwaukee M18 Inflator (M18BI0). While it's noisy, you get complete mobility moving around the car. My only complaint is that I wish Milwaukee would send these out with a quick-connect chuck. Apart from that, I've been happy with it.
I did try fitting a quick-chuck, but the machine didn't like it.
Stihl's interpretation of a portable inflator is built around the 10.8V AS battery architecture. While the Milwaukee is only available as a skin, the Stihl can be purchased in skin or kit form. In my case, I scored the kit, which includes the following:
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/compr...03667#koa-20-with-battery-and-charger-1003668
- KOA 20 Inflator
- AS 2 battery x1
- AL 1 standard charger
- 4 inflator attachments
Circling back to my Milwaukee, in terms of price, the M18 is about $100 more than a Stihl KOA 20 skin. So in theory, the smaller Milwaukee M12 Compact Inflator is a closer competitor — both are within $10 of one another. And yet, the M12 doesn't quite have the same performance figures as the Stihl. Which of the three you choose would probably come down to what battery ecosystem you're already in, or which you could get more value from after the initial purchase.
Stihl KOA 20 -
Max Pressure – 150 psi
Max Air Flow – 360 LPM
Run Time – 23 minutes
Noise - 77 to 90 dB(A)
Weight – 1.5 kg
Milwaukee M18 M18BI0 -
Max Pressure – 150 psi
Max Air Flow – ND
Run Time – 30 minutes (5.0Ah battery)
Noise - 96 to 97 dB(A)
Weight – 3.2 kg
Milwaukee M12 M12BI-0 -
Max Pressure – 120 psi
Max Air Flow – ND
Run Time – 10 minutes (max. duty cycle to prevent overheating)
Noise - 92 to 96 dB(A)
Weight – 1.42 kg
Looking over the machine, the KOA 20 is super lightweight, with or without the battery fitted. I also love the form factor, which has been cleverly designed to integrate storage for the attachments and the main hose. The LED light, soft touch handle grip, and rubberised feet for reduced vibration are nice touches.
The control panel is well thought out, pairing a high-quality display with simple buttons to cycle through modes, pressure levels and measurement units:
- Main power button
- Start and pause button
- Plus & minus buttons for selecting pressure
- Inflate or deflate modes
- A high-pressure mode for tyres and sports equipment
- A high-volume function for inflating or deflating camping beds, pool toys etc
- LED light activation
- Unit Measurement (BAR, PSI, KPA)
- Battery charge level
- Display for chosen pressure setting and current pressure level
For the demo, I used the KOA 20 to inspect and inflate the tyres on the XR6. Operationally, the Stihl is noticeably quieter than the M18 inflator, although at a higher pitch. The pressure settings are increased or decreased by one measurement point at a time, same as the Milwaukee. Once the desired pressure is achieved, the unit automatically stops the pump. To save power, the unit powers down after 5 minutes of inactivity. I will say, the KOA 20 takes longer to achieve the chosen pressure than the larger M18, but that's a fair trade-off for the lighter weight and overall footprint. And like the Milwaukee, it would be nice to have a quick-release chuck.
Overall, I like the lightweight and compact form factor of the KOA 20. With that in mind, it would be an ideal travel companion for road trips and caravanning. For volume inflating, I'd probably favour the M18 Milwaukee for its higher duty-cycle capability. Realistically, you will buy whatever battery system you're already invested in. But the KOA 20 is a nice piece of kit and meets my approval.
Who here hates pulling up at your local petrol station to fill tyres with air? You know how it is: parking next to a hose reel that doesn't work properly, snagging the hose on the tyres, leaking connections, an inaccurate pressure gauge, and a grotty inflator covered in funk. Yeah, not my idea of fun. So, you either dealt with that annoyance, or went and bought an air compressor of some sort.
I've had a decent air compressor for 15 years, initially purchased for tyres, but also useful for detailing tools. And while I now have a retractable hose reel, I always detest firing up the noisy compressor and attempting to manage the hose while avoiding smacking it into a car. But that all changed once tool companies started making battery-powered compressors/inflators. Compact inflators always existed, but you were tethered to a power cord or jumper leads and all the inconvenience that comes with that. So, you no longer have a hose or cord trailing behind you. Instead, you get a thoroughly portable solution that isn't limited to the confines of your garage — think road trips, worksites, camping. For example, inflating camping beds, or as a backup should you run into trouble on the open road.
Put it this way: I haven't filled tyres with my compressor since getting a Milwaukee M18 Inflator (M18BI0). While it's noisy, you get complete mobility moving around the car. My only complaint is that I wish Milwaukee would send these out with a quick-connect chuck. Apart from that, I've been happy with it.
I did try fitting a quick-chuck, but the machine didn't like it.
Stihl's interpretation of a portable inflator is built around the 10.8V AS battery architecture. While the Milwaukee is only available as a skin, the Stihl can be purchased in skin or kit form. In my case, I scored the kit, which includes the following:
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/compr...03667#koa-20-with-battery-and-charger-1003668
- KOA 20 Inflator
- AS 2 battery x1
- AL 1 standard charger
- 4 inflator attachments
Circling back to my Milwaukee, in terms of price, the M18 is about $100 more than a Stihl KOA 20 skin. So in theory, the smaller Milwaukee M12 Compact Inflator is a closer competitor — both are within $10 of one another. And yet, the M12 doesn't quite have the same performance figures as the Stihl. Which of the three you choose would probably come down to what battery ecosystem you're already in, or which you could get more value from after the initial purchase.
Stihl KOA 20 -
Max Pressure – 150 psi
Max Air Flow – 360 LPM
Run Time – 23 minutes
Noise - 77 to 90 dB(A)
Weight – 1.5 kg
Milwaukee M18 M18BI0 -
Max Pressure – 150 psi
Max Air Flow – ND
Run Time – 30 minutes (5.0Ah battery)
Noise - 96 to 97 dB(A)
Weight – 3.2 kg
Milwaukee M12 M12BI-0 -
Max Pressure – 120 psi
Max Air Flow – ND
Run Time – 10 minutes (max. duty cycle to prevent overheating)
Noise - 92 to 96 dB(A)
Weight – 1.42 kg
Looking over the machine, the KOA 20 is super lightweight, with or without the battery fitted. I also love the form factor, which has been cleverly designed to integrate storage for the attachments and the main hose. The LED light, soft touch handle grip, and rubberised feet for reduced vibration are nice touches.
The control panel is well thought out, pairing a high-quality display with simple buttons to cycle through modes, pressure levels and measurement units:
- Main power button
- Start and pause button
- Plus & minus buttons for selecting pressure
- Inflate or deflate modes
- A high-pressure mode for tyres and sports equipment
- A high-volume function for inflating or deflating camping beds, pool toys etc
- LED light activation
- Unit Measurement (BAR, PSI, KPA)
- Battery charge level
- Display for chosen pressure setting and current pressure level
For the demo, I used the KOA 20 to inspect and inflate the tyres on the XR6. Operationally, the Stihl is noticeably quieter than the M18 inflator, although at a higher pitch. The pressure settings are increased or decreased by one measurement point at a time, same as the Milwaukee. Once the desired pressure is achieved, the unit automatically stops the pump. To save power, the unit powers down after 5 minutes of inactivity. I will say, the KOA 20 takes longer to achieve the chosen pressure than the larger M18, but that's a fair trade-off for the lighter weight and overall footprint. And like the Milwaukee, it would be nice to have a quick-release chuck.
Overall, I like the lightweight and compact form factor of the KOA 20. With that in mind, it would be an ideal travel companion for road trips and caravanning. For volume inflating, I'd probably favour the M18 Milwaukee for its higher duty-cycle capability. Realistically, you will buy whatever battery system you're already invested in. But the KOA 20 is a nice piece of kit and meets my approval.
BGA 30 Blower (Kit) –
While I am most grateful to Stihl at the moment, I needed another leaf blower like a hole in the head. Let me explain…
For the most part, I'm using a petrol-powered Stihl BG 86. In my opinion, these are the benchmark petrol leaf blowers on the market, and have been since the BG-Series went on sale in the early 2000s. They're nicely weighted and ergonomic to hold, capable of running in blower or vacuum modes, and powered by a light but punchy 27.2cc engine.
In 2001, I bought a brand-new BG 55 to support my weekend mowing run. While I still have it, I basically ran that thing into the ground over several years of hard work. That BG 55 was a superb workhorse, so when the time came, I replaced it with the latest BG 86C. Compared to the BG 55, the BG 86 has a benchmark anti-vibration system, which is a very nice feature when you're using a machine for extended periods every day. I've since bought two more BG 86s over the years, one of which is set up permanently as a vacuum. I also have a BR 600 Magnum backpack blower for large areas, and a battery-powered BGA 56. So… I like Stihl blowers.
In addition to that, I have two EGO leaf blowers, the benchmark battery-powered blowers available, one of which I've set up for car drying. And while I did try the Husqvarna equivalent to the BG86, I found the Stihl to be more reliable, more powerful, and easier to start..........so much so I sold it and bought another Stihl.
As a side note, if you're in the market for a petrol blower, I'd recommend stretching to at least the BG 86. As I understand it, in the US market you can still buy the older BG 50. The BG 50 and the newer BG 56 lack the anti-vibration setup of the BG 86 models, and are choked with a smaller muffler outlet, so they don't rev as much. I'd also highly suggest not buying the BG 86C with the Easy2Start recoil assist — they're prone to failure, and I've actually reverted mine to the non-assist recoil.
That might sound like a lot, and it is. In my defence, I use these commercially for extended periods all year round. I also have a problem getting rid of stuff I paid good money for. And so, that's why I currently have eight leaf blowers. Make that nine with the addition of the BGA 30.
The Stihl BGA 30 is the brand's entry-level blower. It's available as a skin or in a kit with two batteries and an AL-1 or ALS-31 charger. Like the rest of the AS System range, the focus is on compact and lightweight performance. As a skin, it's even cheaper than the corded electric BGE 61. In my case, I scored the kit with the ALS-31 charger and two batteries.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/blowe...-2x-as-2-batteries-and-als-31-charger-1024035
The BGA 30's party piece is its featherlight weight. At just 1.5 kg, or 1.7 kg with the battery fitted, you really can't fault it for ease of handling or ergonomics. I've used some of Stihl's other battery blowers and found them awkward to hold and somewhat fatiguing. I also like the rubberized hand grip, further adding to user comfort.
The unit can be used with or without the nozzle attached. With the long fan nozzle, you get the most air speed from the machine; without it, you trade speed for sheer volume, which is ideal for moving bulk. Considering the BGA 30 is not the most powerful blower, realistically, most will use it with the long fan nozzle fitted for maximum potential. The nozzle itself can be attached and removed without tools, and with it removed, it will fit in smaller storage spaces.
Most entry-level battery blowers are single-speed machines, in that the throttle is essentially a switch, preventing you from varying the blowing force. For example, the EGO LB-530. That's a letdown for me, as it reduces outright control, but for smaller spaces and less demanding situations, you likely won't even notice it. However, the BGA 30 differs in that it actually comes with a variable-speed trigger, meaning you have more control over the machine.
Max Air Velocity – 43 m/s (96 mph)
Max Throughput – 430 m³/h (253 cf/min)
Min Run Time – 8 minutes (full speed)
Max Run Time – 25 minutes (low speed)
Noise – 73 dB(A) to 84 dB(A)
Weight – 1.5 kg
In use, the lack of grunt is a deal breaker for me, but I operate in a situation where time is money, and high-performance tools cater to that. But for what it is, the BGA 30 is nicely balanced, compact and super quiet-running. As such, it would be ideal for apartments or those who would struggle with the weight and power of a bigger machine.
As I said, I'm not the target customer for the BGA 30. But for those with other AS System tools, it would be a great addition.
While I am most grateful to Stihl at the moment, I needed another leaf blower like a hole in the head. Let me explain…
For the most part, I'm using a petrol-powered Stihl BG 86. In my opinion, these are the benchmark petrol leaf blowers on the market, and have been since the BG-Series went on sale in the early 2000s. They're nicely weighted and ergonomic to hold, capable of running in blower or vacuum modes, and powered by a light but punchy 27.2cc engine.
In 2001, I bought a brand-new BG 55 to support my weekend mowing run. While I still have it, I basically ran that thing into the ground over several years of hard work. That BG 55 was a superb workhorse, so when the time came, I replaced it with the latest BG 86C. Compared to the BG 55, the BG 86 has a benchmark anti-vibration system, which is a very nice feature when you're using a machine for extended periods every day. I've since bought two more BG 86s over the years, one of which is set up permanently as a vacuum. I also have a BR 600 Magnum backpack blower for large areas, and a battery-powered BGA 56. So… I like Stihl blowers.
In addition to that, I have two EGO leaf blowers, the benchmark battery-powered blowers available, one of which I've set up for car drying. And while I did try the Husqvarna equivalent to the BG86, I found the Stihl to be more reliable, more powerful, and easier to start..........so much so I sold it and bought another Stihl.
As a side note, if you're in the market for a petrol blower, I'd recommend stretching to at least the BG 86. As I understand it, in the US market you can still buy the older BG 50. The BG 50 and the newer BG 56 lack the anti-vibration setup of the BG 86 models, and are choked with a smaller muffler outlet, so they don't rev as much. I'd also highly suggest not buying the BG 86C with the Easy2Start recoil assist — they're prone to failure, and I've actually reverted mine to the non-assist recoil.
That might sound like a lot, and it is. In my defence, I use these commercially for extended periods all year round. I also have a problem getting rid of stuff I paid good money for. And so, that's why I currently have eight leaf blowers. Make that nine with the addition of the BGA 30.
The Stihl BGA 30 is the brand's entry-level blower. It's available as a skin or in a kit with two batteries and an AL-1 or ALS-31 charger. Like the rest of the AS System range, the focus is on compact and lightweight performance. As a skin, it's even cheaper than the corded electric BGE 61. In my case, I scored the kit with the ALS-31 charger and two batteries.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/blowe...-2x-as-2-batteries-and-als-31-charger-1024035
The BGA 30's party piece is its featherlight weight. At just 1.5 kg, or 1.7 kg with the battery fitted, you really can't fault it for ease of handling or ergonomics. I've used some of Stihl's other battery blowers and found them awkward to hold and somewhat fatiguing. I also like the rubberized hand grip, further adding to user comfort.
The unit can be used with or without the nozzle attached. With the long fan nozzle, you get the most air speed from the machine; without it, you trade speed for sheer volume, which is ideal for moving bulk. Considering the BGA 30 is not the most powerful blower, realistically, most will use it with the long fan nozzle fitted for maximum potential. The nozzle itself can be attached and removed without tools, and with it removed, it will fit in smaller storage spaces.
Most entry-level battery blowers are single-speed machines, in that the throttle is essentially a switch, preventing you from varying the blowing force. For example, the EGO LB-530. That's a letdown for me, as it reduces outright control, but for smaller spaces and less demanding situations, you likely won't even notice it. However, the BGA 30 differs in that it actually comes with a variable-speed trigger, meaning you have more control over the machine.
Max Air Velocity – 43 m/s (96 mph)
Max Throughput – 430 m³/h (253 cf/min)
Min Run Time – 8 minutes (full speed)
Max Run Time – 25 minutes (low speed)
Noise – 73 dB(A) to 84 dB(A)
Weight – 1.5 kg
In use, the lack of grunt is a deal breaker for me, but I operate in a situation where time is money, and high-performance tools cater to that. But for what it is, the BGA 30 is nicely balanced, compact and super quiet-running. As such, it would be ideal for apartments or those who would struggle with the weight and power of a bigger machine.
As I said, I'm not the target customer for the BGA 30. But for those with other AS System tools, it would be a great addition.
goldtang
Well-known member
Congratulations
It's funny how grief comes at you in different ways. While the news of Dolly Parton's passing hit the world a week ago, it's taken until now for it to hit me.
Let me say that my musical tastes are diverse, I can listen to any genre except for heavy metal and rap. I had a strong country phase in my teens, can enjoy rousing classical number, pop..............basically anything with strong instrumental, strong beat, and strong vocals. I say that because I wouldn't say I was the biggest fan of Dolly's music, but there are several songs that speak to me from her massive back catalog of songs.
Plenty of people make music, plenty of people can sing, plenty of people can act. But there was no mistaking Dolly's angelic voice, it was like no other. And you don't have to be a country music fan to recognise and acknowledge that. Through her work, she gave people so much joy, be that the music to the parts she played..............and ultimately, will continue to do so forevermore.
But I think the most remarkable thing about Dolly was her positive outlook, that beaming smile, the way she made everyone feel special regardless of their story. And she never let the fame change her, instead Dolly took that wealth and influence to make other people's lives just a little bit better. Be that via her Imagination Library program, which sends books to millions of children all over the world, or simply by making songs for people to relate to. But most of all, she owned who she was and never let others tell her otherwise, which in turn sent a message to the world about the importance of being yourself.
Of all the quotes I read this past week, I think Sally Field said it best............
"If there are truly angels on earth, then we have just lost one. Dolly Parton. There will never be another."
Let me say that my musical tastes are diverse, I can listen to any genre except for heavy metal and rap. I had a strong country phase in my teens, can enjoy rousing classical number, pop..............basically anything with strong instrumental, strong beat, and strong vocals. I say that because I wouldn't say I was the biggest fan of Dolly's music, but there are several songs that speak to me from her massive back catalog of songs.
Plenty of people make music, plenty of people can sing, plenty of people can act. But there was no mistaking Dolly's angelic voice, it was like no other. And you don't have to be a country music fan to recognise and acknowledge that. Through her work, she gave people so much joy, be that the music to the parts she played..............and ultimately, will continue to do so forevermore.
But I think the most remarkable thing about Dolly was her positive outlook, that beaming smile, the way she made everyone feel special regardless of their story. And she never let the fame change her, instead Dolly took that wealth and influence to make other people's lives just a little bit better. Be that via her Imagination Library program, which sends books to millions of children all over the world, or simply by making songs for people to relate to. But most of all, she owned who she was and never let others tell her otherwise, which in turn sent a message to the world about the importance of being yourself.
Of all the quotes I read this past week, I think Sally Field said it best............
"If there are truly angels on earth, then we have just lost one. Dolly Parton. There will never be another."
SEA 20 Handheld Vacuum (Skin) -
I'm old enough to remember when a "Dustbuster" was a desirable must-have home appliance. When it first went on sale in January 1979, the original Black & Decker Dustbuster became the byword for compact, battery-powered handheld vacuums. It was so popular that a million were sold in its first year of production. By 1985, Black & Decker held the majority share of the battery-powered vacuum cleaner market and were selling 7 million annually. Redesigned several times, by 2019 an estimated 150 million had been sold. In 1995, the Smithsonian added a 1979 model to its collection; one is also on display at The Henry Ford museum.
I mention all this because the moment I saw the Stihl SEA 20, I immediately thought "Dustbuster". I hope that doesn't come across as a negative association — rather, it's a nod to how foundational product and brand names, like the Dustbuster, become colloquial words for everything that follows. Think Biros (ballpoint pens), Kleenex (paper tissues), Band-Aid (adhesive bandages), Jacuzzi (hot tub), Alcantara (suede-like material), Sellotape (clear adhesive tape), AstroTurf (artificial grass), Bobcat (skid-steer loader), Dremel (rotary tool), Glad Wrap (cling film), Photoshop (digital image editing), Sharpie (permanent marker), Stanley Knife (utility knife). Actually, the brand Dyson has probably inherited the Dustbuster mantle as THE handheld vacuum.
So, the Stihl Dustbuster — sorry, SEA 20 — is another take on a small, handheld, battery-powered vacuum. Based around the AS battery system, the SEA 20 was designed as a light, compact cleaning solution for smaller areas around the home, garage or worksite.
Available as a skin or in a kit with the AL-1 charger and a single AS-2 battery. In my case, I was sent the skin.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/wet-d...a-20-handheld-vacuum-cleaner-skin-only-146275
The SEA 20 is a bagless machine that features 2-stage filtration, consisting of a heavy-duty paper filter cone surrounded by a washable pre-filter cage. It also has a non-return flap to prevent dirt flowing back out of the collection chamber, with a rubber seal surrounding the container itself. The handle features a rubberized soft-grip, a locking throttle, and an LED charge indicator display.
The machine ships with the following accessories:
- Crevice nozzle
- Extension tube
- Brush attachment
- Expandable extension hose (from 0.5 to 1.5 metres)
- Storage bag
Volumetric Flow – 20 l/s (42 cf/min)
Max Run Time – 14 minutes
Container Volume – 0.8 litres
Weight – 1.1 kg
Naturally, this little vacuum will be used for detailing. At present, I use two vacuums, dependent on the level of filth needing to be removed. For interiors needing a decent clean, I use a Karcher WD6 Premium. This machine certainly *****, in a good way, but it's bulky to wrangle around the car. On my own vehicles, I rarely need such potency, so a smaller handheld vacuum is more than sufficient.
Now, you'd assume a Dyson would be ideal for handheld duties — but absolutely not. While I have one in the house, and have used many others, these are just not suitable for car detailing. Actually, in my opinion Dysons are grossly overpriced and almost totally useless outside of cleaning hard flooring. Yes, you can get car cleaning kits for them, but that doesn't solve some of the issues I have with Dysons. The Milwaukee M18 (M18CV0) cordless vacuum I run in this role is hardly a leader in suction, but for quick cleanups, its more than capable. And with the hose attachment, it's actually usable for car interiors. Not to mention the robust Milwaukee battery architecture, far better than any Dyson.
Ideally, I would install a wall-mounted vacuum system to solve pretty much every compromise with the two above. However, I've put that on hold for the moment — but watch this space.
The first thing to note with the SEA 20 is how much lighter and better packaged it is compared to the Milwaukee M18. With the supplied extension hose, common to both Stihl and Milwaukee, you can genuinely use it for car cleaning. Without it, you just cannot get the nozzle to where it needs to be, especially footwells and between seats. Considering it has a smaller footprint, the Stihl is easier to handle when used like this. In operation, the SEA 20 is noticeably quieter than the M18 too.
The collection container is emptied by pressing the release tab and levering downward. The outer gauze filter cage can be removed and cleaned; the inner paper filter can be tapped or blown out when needed. Stihl also sell replacement paper filters at dealers for only $10.
www.stihl.com.au
Stihl also sell a mini nozzle kit for the SEA 20, which includes additional brush attachments, a mini crevice tool, a hose extension, adaptor piece, and storage bag.
www.stihl.com.au
Filming and photographing interior work is quite difficult, especially without someone helping take the images or when both hands are required to on the job. Lighting is a challenge too. So, no video with this one.
Are you going to clean a disaster car interior with the SEA 20? Realistically, no. But for quick cleanups, it's preferable to dragging out your shop or home vac. I also love that it's more compact and lighter than my Milwaukee.
I'm old enough to remember when a "Dustbuster" was a desirable must-have home appliance. When it first went on sale in January 1979, the original Black & Decker Dustbuster became the byword for compact, battery-powered handheld vacuums. It was so popular that a million were sold in its first year of production. By 1985, Black & Decker held the majority share of the battery-powered vacuum cleaner market and were selling 7 million annually. Redesigned several times, by 2019 an estimated 150 million had been sold. In 1995, the Smithsonian added a 1979 model to its collection; one is also on display at The Henry Ford museum.
I mention all this because the moment I saw the Stihl SEA 20, I immediately thought "Dustbuster". I hope that doesn't come across as a negative association — rather, it's a nod to how foundational product and brand names, like the Dustbuster, become colloquial words for everything that follows. Think Biros (ballpoint pens), Kleenex (paper tissues), Band-Aid (adhesive bandages), Jacuzzi (hot tub), Alcantara (suede-like material), Sellotape (clear adhesive tape), AstroTurf (artificial grass), Bobcat (skid-steer loader), Dremel (rotary tool), Glad Wrap (cling film), Photoshop (digital image editing), Sharpie (permanent marker), Stanley Knife (utility knife). Actually, the brand Dyson has probably inherited the Dustbuster mantle as THE handheld vacuum.
So, the Stihl Dustbuster — sorry, SEA 20 — is another take on a small, handheld, battery-powered vacuum. Based around the AS battery system, the SEA 20 was designed as a light, compact cleaning solution for smaller areas around the home, garage or worksite.
Available as a skin or in a kit with the AL-1 charger and a single AS-2 battery. In my case, I was sent the skin.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/wet-d...a-20-handheld-vacuum-cleaner-skin-only-146275
The SEA 20 is a bagless machine that features 2-stage filtration, consisting of a heavy-duty paper filter cone surrounded by a washable pre-filter cage. It also has a non-return flap to prevent dirt flowing back out of the collection chamber, with a rubber seal surrounding the container itself. The handle features a rubberized soft-grip, a locking throttle, and an LED charge indicator display.
The machine ships with the following accessories:
- Crevice nozzle
- Extension tube
- Brush attachment
- Expandable extension hose (from 0.5 to 1.5 metres)
- Storage bag
Volumetric Flow – 20 l/s (42 cf/min)
Max Run Time – 14 minutes
Container Volume – 0.8 litres
Weight – 1.1 kg
Naturally, this little vacuum will be used for detailing. At present, I use two vacuums, dependent on the level of filth needing to be removed. For interiors needing a decent clean, I use a Karcher WD6 Premium. This machine certainly *****, in a good way, but it's bulky to wrangle around the car. On my own vehicles, I rarely need such potency, so a smaller handheld vacuum is more than sufficient.
Now, you'd assume a Dyson would be ideal for handheld duties — but absolutely not. While I have one in the house, and have used many others, these are just not suitable for car detailing. Actually, in my opinion Dysons are grossly overpriced and almost totally useless outside of cleaning hard flooring. Yes, you can get car cleaning kits for them, but that doesn't solve some of the issues I have with Dysons. The Milwaukee M18 (M18CV0) cordless vacuum I run in this role is hardly a leader in suction, but for quick cleanups, its more than capable. And with the hose attachment, it's actually usable for car interiors. Not to mention the robust Milwaukee battery architecture, far better than any Dyson.
Ideally, I would install a wall-mounted vacuum system to solve pretty much every compromise with the two above. However, I've put that on hold for the moment — but watch this space.
The first thing to note with the SEA 20 is how much lighter and better packaged it is compared to the Milwaukee M18. With the supplied extension hose, common to both Stihl and Milwaukee, you can genuinely use it for car cleaning. Without it, you just cannot get the nozzle to where it needs to be, especially footwells and between seats. Considering it has a smaller footprint, the Stihl is easier to handle when used like this. In operation, the SEA 20 is noticeably quieter than the M18 too.
The collection container is emptied by pressing the release tab and levering downward. The outer gauze filter cage can be removed and cleaned; the inner paper filter can be tapped or blown out when needed. Stihl also sell replacement paper filters at dealers for only $10.
SEA 20 Paper Filter | STIHL Australia
Reusable paper filter for the STIHL SEA 20 handheld vacuum cleaner ✓ Efficient air cleaning ✓ Less wear and tear ✓ ➤ Buy now!
Stihl also sell a mini nozzle kit for the SEA 20, which includes additional brush attachments, a mini crevice tool, a hose extension, adaptor piece, and storage bag.
SEA 20 Mini Nozzle Kit | STIHL Australia
Set of extension hoses and nozzles for STIHL battery vacuum cleaners, for cleaning awkward spaces and crevices. ➤ Find out more!
Filming and photographing interior work is quite difficult, especially without someone helping take the images or when both hands are required to on the job. Lighting is a challenge too. So, no video with this one.
Are you going to clean a disaster car interior with the SEA 20? Realistically, no. But for quick cleanups, it's preferable to dragging out your shop or home vac. I also love that it's more compact and lighter than my Milwaukee.
PS 1 Power Station -
The smallest inclusion of the prize is the PS 1 Power Station. Only available as a skin for $59 AUD, the PS 1 is a mini charging station for powering small devices. Despite the small size, it can be used to power mobile phones, tablets and heated clothing. It also features an LED light with two brightness levels, a charge level indicator, and a metal belt hook.
Stihl suggest the following run times from the PS 1:
- Smartphone (1,800 mAh) – charges device battery 2.5x with 1x AS-2 battery
- Tablet (8,000 mAh) – charges device battery 0.5x with 1x AS-2 battery
- Heated clothing (10 W) – up to 2 hours charging time
- Using the PS 1 torch – up to 20 hours working time
For some reason, Stihl say you can charge an AS-2 battery in 60 to 80 minutes with the PS 1. I'm not sure why you'd want to discharge one battery into another of the same type — you'd just use the battery with charge in it rather than transferring it to another.
Connection-wise, the PS 1 has three options:
- USB-C for charging or discharging
- USB-A for discharging only
- 12V DC for heated clothing
For such a small device, the owner's manual is thicker than any of the other tools in the prize.
I'm not sure what I'll use this for. I charge my phone at home like a grownup, although it could come in handy to charge audio devices and headphones out on the job, but again, I always do this pre-emptively anyway. However, I think the PS 1 would be great for camping or those into outdoor adventure — having this in your bag could be handy.
Now that I have additional AS-2 batteries, I have my eye on a couple of additional tools from the AS lineup.
That would include the SGA 30, a 5-litre battery sprayer. I've had no luck with traditional pump-action sprayers, be that the cheap hardware store **** or the expensive agricultural type. The SGA 30 pumps rather than pressurises the vessel, which means consistent, efficient spraying.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/ap/sga-30-battery-sprayer-kit-1003586
The GTA-Series of handheld chainsaws has my attention as well. Early versions required manual oiling and were powered by a single battery. The latest examples have an oil tank and are powered by two batteries in tandem. Either way, one of these would complement the ASA 20 battery shears I've been using extensively this winter pruning season. Probably the dual-battery GTA-40.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/prune...er-as-system-1003657#gta-40-skin-only-1003657
The smallest inclusion of the prize is the PS 1 Power Station. Only available as a skin for $59 AUD, the PS 1 is a mini charging station for powering small devices. Despite the small size, it can be used to power mobile phones, tablets and heated clothing. It also features an LED light with two brightness levels, a charge level indicator, and a metal belt hook.
Stihl suggest the following run times from the PS 1:
- Smartphone (1,800 mAh) – charges device battery 2.5x with 1x AS-2 battery
- Tablet (8,000 mAh) – charges device battery 0.5x with 1x AS-2 battery
- Heated clothing (10 W) – up to 2 hours charging time
- Using the PS 1 torch – up to 20 hours working time
For some reason, Stihl say you can charge an AS-2 battery in 60 to 80 minutes with the PS 1. I'm not sure why you'd want to discharge one battery into another of the same type — you'd just use the battery with charge in it rather than transferring it to another.
Connection-wise, the PS 1 has three options:
- USB-C for charging or discharging
- USB-A for discharging only
- 12V DC for heated clothing
For such a small device, the owner's manual is thicker than any of the other tools in the prize.
I'm not sure what I'll use this for. I charge my phone at home like a grownup, although it could come in handy to charge audio devices and headphones out on the job, but again, I always do this pre-emptively anyway. However, I think the PS 1 would be great for camping or those into outdoor adventure — having this in your bag could be handy.
Now that I have additional AS-2 batteries, I have my eye on a couple of additional tools from the AS lineup.
That would include the SGA 30, a 5-litre battery sprayer. I've had no luck with traditional pump-action sprayers, be that the cheap hardware store **** or the expensive agricultural type. The SGA 30 pumps rather than pressurises the vessel, which means consistent, efficient spraying.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/ap/sga-30-battery-sprayer-kit-1003586
The GTA-Series of handheld chainsaws has my attention as well. Early versions required manual oiling and were powered by a single battery. The latest examples have an oil tank and are powered by two batteries in tandem. Either way, one of these would complement the ASA 20 battery shears I've been using extensively this winter pruning season. Probably the dual-battery GTA-40.
https://www.stihl.com.au/en/p/prune...er-as-system-1003657#gta-40-skin-only-1003657
customh
Well-known member
What they are driving at here is using it as a battery charger with a USB-C wall plug vs the AL 1 or AL 5-2 charger. The advantage in your situation would be 2 fold:
- Charging 2 batteries simultaneously (assuming part of the kit was the AL 1 charger) especially if you buy one of those 2 battery saws
- Easily charge a battery in a vehicle with a USB-C x 12V adaptor.
Ahhh, thanks for the clarification. Actually, that's an excellent idea. Considering I now have 3 AS-system chargers, point 2 would be the most applicable.
Question / Observation...........
I'm old enough to remember when 4- and 5-speed automatic gearboxes were considered modern. Every automatic Falcon between 1989 till late 2005 was fitted with a 4-speed auto, which was manufactured in Albury, Australia. The 4-speed was then supplemented with a 6-speed ZF auto, as used by BMW, Aston Martin, Landrover. In 2008, the French-made 5R55S 5-speed auto replaced the Aussie 4-speed, although the EGAS LPG engines kept using it until mid-2010. In the same year, for the new emission standards all automatic Falcon's & Territory's got the 6-speed ZF, regardless of engine or body style.
My old AU III Fairmont, complete with the lovely MoMo leather gear shifter (and steering wheel) -
The leather pad on top of the shifter denoted the 6-speed auto, which Ford called "fine-feel" -
The ZF 6-speed gearbox Ford used on the Aussie Falcon and Territory was probably the most premium aspect of the car. Back then, the ZF 6 was still relatively new, and typically restricted to high-priced European cars. Actually, when they announced its fitment on BF Falcon's from late 2005, I was kinda taken aback. Those German-made gearboxes wouldn't have been cheap, completely at odds with Ford's main motivation............low cost, high volume. But, back then it was the only gearbox that could hold the sort of torque the locally made cars had, from 383 Nm (282 lb·ft) to 550 Nm (406 lb⋅ft). I'm not complaining though, that gearbox was not just another page for refinement and intelligence, but I'd say it was in a completely different book.
Ford and GM later made their own version of the ZF 6, doing so under licence in the USA. Locally, V8 Commodores from VE onward had it, the V6's a few years later. Ford fitted it to diesel-powered Territory's. Ford and GM would again collaborate on a all-new 10-speed auto that would eventually spread across its longitudinal platforms. Which leads me to my observation...............
With 10-gears to play with, you'd assume the goal was to keep the engine in its most efficient rpm band. More gears, less strain on the engine...............in turn improving fuel economy and performance. For the earlier versions, Ford calibrated it with the ability to skip-shift up or down based on throttle loadings.
Using my Dad's PX MK III Ranger with the Bi-Turbo engine as an example, at low throttle inputs and around town driving, it would start of from rest in 1st gear, skip to 3rd gear, then 5th, then 6th. That changed if in sport mode and/or full throttle, where it would then shift in sequence. But how many Ranger owners would even know about sport mode, let alone purposely selecting it.
So, why did they go to all the expense of creating a gearbox with 10 ratios, only for it to act like a 4-speed auto? On that Ranger at least, it takes off nicely, then shifts into 3rd and make the engine feel laboured and sluggish. I understand Ford have played around with the calibrations over the years, my S650 Mustang appears to shift in sequence, and I'm fairly sure the latest Ranger is the same.
In any case, it is (was?) an unusual approach. In my opinion, 8 gears is the sweet spot.
I'm old enough to remember when 4- and 5-speed automatic gearboxes were considered modern. Every automatic Falcon between 1989 till late 2005 was fitted with a 4-speed auto, which was manufactured in Albury, Australia. The 4-speed was then supplemented with a 6-speed ZF auto, as used by BMW, Aston Martin, Landrover. In 2008, the French-made 5R55S 5-speed auto replaced the Aussie 4-speed, although the EGAS LPG engines kept using it until mid-2010. In the same year, for the new emission standards all automatic Falcon's & Territory's got the 6-speed ZF, regardless of engine or body style.
My old AU III Fairmont, complete with the lovely MoMo leather gear shifter (and steering wheel) -
The leather pad on top of the shifter denoted the 6-speed auto, which Ford called "fine-feel" -
The ZF 6-speed gearbox Ford used on the Aussie Falcon and Territory was probably the most premium aspect of the car. Back then, the ZF 6 was still relatively new, and typically restricted to high-priced European cars. Actually, when they announced its fitment on BF Falcon's from late 2005, I was kinda taken aback. Those German-made gearboxes wouldn't have been cheap, completely at odds with Ford's main motivation............low cost, high volume. But, back then it was the only gearbox that could hold the sort of torque the locally made cars had, from 383 Nm (282 lb·ft) to 550 Nm (406 lb⋅ft). I'm not complaining though, that gearbox was not just another page for refinement and intelligence, but I'd say it was in a completely different book.
Ford and GM later made their own version of the ZF 6, doing so under licence in the USA. Locally, V8 Commodores from VE onward had it, the V6's a few years later. Ford fitted it to diesel-powered Territory's. Ford and GM would again collaborate on a all-new 10-speed auto that would eventually spread across its longitudinal platforms. Which leads me to my observation...............
With 10-gears to play with, you'd assume the goal was to keep the engine in its most efficient rpm band. More gears, less strain on the engine...............in turn improving fuel economy and performance. For the earlier versions, Ford calibrated it with the ability to skip-shift up or down based on throttle loadings.
Using my Dad's PX MK III Ranger with the Bi-Turbo engine as an example, at low throttle inputs and around town driving, it would start of from rest in 1st gear, skip to 3rd gear, then 5th, then 6th. That changed if in sport mode and/or full throttle, where it would then shift in sequence. But how many Ranger owners would even know about sport mode, let alone purposely selecting it.
So, why did they go to all the expense of creating a gearbox with 10 ratios, only for it to act like a 4-speed auto? On that Ranger at least, it takes off nicely, then shifts into 3rd and make the engine feel laboured and sluggish. I understand Ford have played around with the calibrations over the years, my S650 Mustang appears to shift in sequence, and I'm fairly sure the latest Ranger is the same.
In any case, it is (was?) an unusual approach. In my opinion, 8 gears is the sweet spot.
moab11
Well-known member
I think the 10 speed is more suited to the small turbo charged engines, allows them to keep the turbos spooled better when the power is needed. But then can skip gears when there is a light load to again keep things moving efficiently. The move from 6 to 8(briefly) to 10 speeds was a lot of change, so not very surprising that there was calibration issues early on.
Fuel Economy.
It's more fuel efficient to lock up the torque converter earlier and shift more gears, than to have fewer gears and let the torque converter 'slip' to effectively lower the gear ratios. Converter slippage is 'wasted' power. At low speed and low engine load, it makes more sense (for mileage) to skip gears and keep rpm's low. The modern A/T's generally shift quicker/smoother than the old 4-speeds, so from the driver's seat it usually isn't that noticeable.
Not uncommon (even in the late 90's) for the transmissions to be in O/D and the converter locked up at 40mph(64kph). Some of the later model Honda SUV's had issues with transmission shudder at low load/low speeds because they were trying to lock up at low speed (32-35mph) and kept kicking it out. Honda issued a TSB and a software update to address it, iirc.
I'm not a transmission guy, and I haven't done any driveability work in several years so take that for what it is. I have read lengthy threads written by drivetrain calibration guys for Ford/GM, but that was 20+ years ago.
It's more fuel efficient to lock up the torque converter earlier and shift more gears, than to have fewer gears and let the torque converter 'slip' to effectively lower the gear ratios. Converter slippage is 'wasted' power. At low speed and low engine load, it makes more sense (for mileage) to skip gears and keep rpm's low. The modern A/T's generally shift quicker/smoother than the old 4-speeds, so from the driver's seat it usually isn't that noticeable.
Not uncommon (even in the late 90's) for the transmissions to be in O/D and the converter locked up at 40mph(64kph). Some of the later model Honda SUV's had issues with transmission shudder at low load/low speeds because they were trying to lock up at low speed (32-35mph) and kept kicking it out. Honda issued a TSB and a software update to address it, iirc.
I'm not a transmission guy, and I haven't done any driveability work in several years so take that for what it is. I have read lengthy threads written by drivetrain calibration guys for Ford/GM, but that was 20+ years ago.
hmbemis
ALLIANCE MEMBER
I think if I used the tools often enough a battery would make sense, but I can't ignore the reality that my blower, string trimmer, and mower are all 13+ years old and aside from some air filters, oil, and a plug or two, they are working like the day I bought them.
My experience with battery powered tools is that after ~4 years of residential use the battery is often starting to not hold charge, and replacements aren't always available after the manufacturer has moved on, which means now you're relying on knock offs.
...not to mention I get a bit nervous about charging them: We had an Anker brand lithium-ion battery powered speaker explode while plugged in -- burned the table it was on and showered sparks down on the chairs/carpet leaving burn holes... No one was around when it happened, we just found the aftermath... we're lucky everything it hit was a bit flame retardant, normally we've got papers and other much more flammable material nearby, it just happened to have been tider that day. That was just a ~3000mA battery, I'd guess that a ~30000mA in a landscape tool would be even more "energetic" (yes I know gas/petrol can explode too, but it can be stored outside and doesn't require being plugged in for 5-20 hours to refill).
I do like how those Stihl battery tools look though!
hmbemis
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Agreed. In this case, the engine I'm referencing is a 2.0-litre 4-cylinder twin-turbo diesel with a very narrow power power/torque band. When Ford started using that engine in the Ranger, people condemned it as being too small and overworked in the 2250 kg (4950 lbs) Ranger. In reality, the 10-speed made it work less hard by having super short gears to keep it in the sweet spot.
For the current generation Ranger, Ford introduced the 3.0 V6 Powerstroke diesel, which had previously done duty in the F-150. I would buy that engine purely for the refinement those two extra cylinders bring to the party. But with so much torque, 600 Nm / 443 ft-lbs, I think the 10-speed makes it slow, almost like its got a CVT (yuk!).
Geez I hate diesel engines.............
The first Mustang I drove with the 10-speed was a 2019 build, so one of the first with that gearbox. I remember thinking the gearbox was best when the hammer was down, but very dimwitted at normal round town speeds and throttle inputs, it would just get lost. They clearly worked on the calibration over the years, my S650 seems much better at normal driving, from what I can gather it doesn't skip shift. However, the response to the paddles is glacial, a shame because when it does shift its super quick. I could understand the that in an F-150, but in a performance car its not good enough.
The latest Ranger with the 10-speed now shifts sequentially, as in it doesn't skip-shift, even at normal throttle inputs. So clearly Ford also agrees skipping gears was a flawed concept. In 98% of driving conditions, only using 4 of the 10 gears doesn't really compute, meanwhile you are carrying around the additional weight for no reason. Which was where I was going with my previous post.
Just wondering out loud rather than having a go at anyone.
In my mind, battery makes most sense to homeowners, especially on the less used tools like chainsaws and hedge trimmers. A gas engine that sits is a ticking time bomb of expensive fuel related repairs. The homeowner doesn't have the same battery-range worries a commercial guy would have.........at least without having to invest HEAVILY into having enough batteries to get you through the day.
In that regard, one single 5.0Ah EGO battery, for example, is $389 AUD. To run every single tool on your truck to get you through the day, you'd be looking at LEAST 10 of those batteries, plus a few spares in case. That's just on $4000 AUD in batteries.
And even then, that doesn't account for unfavourable conditions. Lithium batteries hate being excessively hot or cold and will derate or even shut down under such conditions. Tell that to a customer mid-way through a job, I'm not sure they'd be pleased...........not to mention completely ruining your schedule for the days, weeks that follow.
I know that some operators are pushing into full-battery operations, but it's hard enough running a business like that without the hassle and expense surrounding batteries. I know gas powered tools also have downtime, but they are more readily repaired. Battery gear would be expensive to repair, if at all.
Having said all that, I have bets both ways. While I have several mowers, blowers, saws, these are the ones that do the bulk of my work -
Lawn Mower - Briggs 190cc gas powered
Trimmer - Husqvarna gas powered
Edge Trimmer - Honda gas powered
Blower - Stihl gas powered
Blower/Vac - Stihl gas powered
Hedge Trimmer - Stihl battery powered
Hedge Trimmer (Long Reach) - Stihl battery powered
Pruning Chainsaw - Stihl battery powered
Pruning Chainsaw (Long Reach) - Stihl battery powered
Pruning Shears - Stihl battery powered
I have a bunch of lithium batteries sitting in the same garage as my irreplaceable cars, we also have a solar battery out there too. So, yeah its something I worry about.
Can you imagine an electric car battery going up in your garage? A small handheld tool would be easy enough get out of there, but a car? It would burn the whole house down.