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I think your garage qualifies as the quickest moved in after build award. Man you made it look already well useable. Good job!

:lol: That started after the floor was painted. The rule after that step was "if it goes in, it stays in."

Thatks for the well wishes everyone. Today was cloudy and perfect for hanging the rest of the ceiling panels, but I resisted so as not to aggrivate anything. It'll get there shortly. More when I can do more!
 
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Makes me happy just to look at that, Chris. Congratulations on a job done really well.

And you have my sympathy on the kidney stones. I've had a few, and in the course of the treatment I learned I have four ureters instead of two. Sounds like that would make it less of a problem, but apparently they're smaller because the workload is distributed. In any case, I'd never passed out from pain before the first (and worst).

But they'll pass, finally. And you'll still have an awesome place to work.
 
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Gettin' in a few more hits before the bills start to pile up. "Hey, can't pay, sorry - should mailed that sooner!" Wife helped me get the rest of the ceiling panels up on Saturday. Now it looks more like a shop IMHO.
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From the half a loaf is better than no loaf - Some R13 kraft face that was heading for the walls got repurposed over the work room. We've already hit 100+ three times - twice this last weekend - and it's not even summer. I'll make part of the area liveable anyway. I can always shoot more over it later. Caught a break - it was in the 70s yesterday so I could survive the attic.
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I have to enginner a mounting system for the AC unit. It's a 10K BTU model saved from the move that is strictly a window mount. Some 2" aluminum angle and some engineering ought to fix that. I managed to get it apart to make the initial fitting easier. Now I have to carve a hole in my new walls. Um...
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6 lights to go, maybe get a couple this weekend. Have pieces of the air system to fix up too. That'll be a challenge.
 

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just finished reading this whole thing. Awsome build and it helped a bit with my plans thanks.


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Gettin' in a few more hits before the bills start to pile up. "Hey, can't pay, sorry - should mailed that sooner!" Wife helped me get the rest of the ceiling panels up on Saturday. Now it looks more like a shop IMHO.
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Help putting up the ceiling ?!?! Must have been nice. :lol_hitti
 
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Looks good!

How's the body?

Thanks - back to doc tomorrow, so we'll see. Got a copy of billing to insurance for the hospital stay - Just the hospital time, not docs, etc. it was about one 24x40 shop plus a second story. $22K.

>Think it's bright now ? get some paint on the walls and you'll be wearing sunglasses.
I can't even get around to painting the outside back wall of the place! :lol:
 
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A few more bites out of the elephant this weekend. Put up the rest of the wall insulation and got almost all the OSB up on the walls. I framed out one side of the sliding doorway to the work room - still haven't figured out what to do for a door. Maybe hippie beads. Finally put away the big scaffold - all done with that.
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I'm 3 sheets short of a full wall. ;) Every panel left has some kind of hole to be cut in it to clear a plug. Measure twice, cut once - then go buy large plug covers.
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His & Hers "hero wall" :
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I need to sit down and figure out what to do for the air system. Maybe some of that this weekend. And that door thing...
 
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And the Doc said what?

Oh yeah I have been watching from the shadows. Great job, wish I had the space to do the same, unfortunately in the crowded DFW metromess
 
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And the Doc said what?

Oh yeah I have been watching from the shadows. Great job, wish I had the space to do the same, unfortunately in the crowded DFW metromess

Got the x-ray and the tech said "wanna see?" Sure. Ugh - there's one more stone in there. Doc confirms - we'll do this all over again in about a month.

Grew up in the metro-mess. Westcliff area of Fort Worth. We're very lucky to have the elbow room here.
 

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Since the build is new and clutterfree, I'd run the airlines through the attic and bring the drops right thru the ceiling along the wall.
 

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The place is looking good. I like the separate room for tools/machines. That should help keep some dust off the cars. I have never had kidney stones but my wife had a hospital stay last year with them and we are still paying on the bill.
 
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The daughter of the guy that poured my slab works here - she is about to give birth and has had three stones during her pregnancy. So I got nuthin' to complain about, really.

I have an idea on the air stuff - I just have to dig out all the pipe from the storage shed, find the other misc pieces (in a box under a bench) and see what there is to pick from. I have at least 3 full complete drops and 80+ feet of iron pipe and fittings already, so I've got a good start on that part. I also have the vent fan for the compressor closet.
 
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Got a nice upper respiratory infection this last week, so I didn't do much of anything outside all week. Starting to get hot. I backed off the hole in the wall for the work room and substituted this:
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6500 BTU, 5 yr warranty, $159 at Lowes. It works well enough and takes the edge off. These Energy Star rated goobers don't throw a lot of air, so it does need a fan assist to get to the other end of the room.

To help keep the cool in the room, I needed a door. Still looking for something to use permanently, but after rooting around the house I came up with a temporary fix. I give you - the Hispanic Heritage door:
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Yes, of course it works on the door slide tracks:
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And, I got tired of the plain stainless cabinet faces. Time to jazz it up a bit.
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Falcon67, after reading your thread, I realized that I built a workbench of very similar construction as yours.


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Still haven't found anything I like for the door other than the blanket. I did install this as an exhaust vent to try and control some of the warmup in the big space, but until I get insulation over that it's not going to do much. 1600 cfm exhaust fan from Lowes:
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And a couple of vents that I can close when it's not running.
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Maybe some insulation next month.
 
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Ah - a little relief from the summer.
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I hated to hack a hole in the building, but it was worth the effort. It's only a 10K BTU unit, but we already had it so it was no hit to the budget. It's a real window unit, but it was too tall for the windows. So I just stripped the window stuff off and made some brackets to hold it in the wall. With a floor fan running, it was able to keep the 672 sq/ft section at 80~82F with the outside temp at 100F. I can live with that! Surprisingly, the unit still cycles the compressor and doesn't run flat out all the time. Blows air about 20' too, so that helps.

Lucky Dog Award: The wire for the plug at the bottom of the picture runs down the stud on the side facing the AC unit. I missed it with the saw by 1/4". Whew

Got the rest of the window trim cut and set on the back side, so a little paint work out there and the exterior is done.

To help with the west wall heating, I set 4 Crepe Mytle "Tuscarora" out 6 feet from the wall. The get about 20' x 15' and can be trained as a multi trunk tree. They also love full sun, which is what they are gonna get in that spot.

I also scored a cool shop clock - I still need a fridge to put my Frosties in (and Shiners).
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Next up is working on the air piping and getting the compressor hooked up.
 
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Clock is too cool. (pun intended)

Good idea with the CPs. They are tough plants and should do well.

Keep working.
 
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I was hoping to post some air system pic, but my welding helmet died and I'm waiting for the new one to show up. In the mean time, a little change in appearance.

From this:
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To this:
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You can tell in the second pic that the 180F wall temp has created about a 6' "kill zone" on the ends of the building. I went and got a bucket of gray that I liked and painted both ends. It brought the end wall temps down 40~50F and took about 2F out of the static interior temp. The Hardi is still 25F+ hotter than the masonite stuff on the back of the house. The gray also lets the Hardi lose it's heat faster too. So color really does make a difference. There are 3 Crepe Myrtles in front of the west wall, with the hope that if they can survive they will grow big and shade that end. The variety I picked should be 25't x 15'w in about 5~7 years.
 
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Very interesting F-67. Almost makes me want to switch to silver metal for roofing metal on my pole barn rather than the forest green. You could probably cook an egg on it when it's sunny.
 

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This is a great thread! Congratulations on a job well done. I just joined the forum and was glued to this thread for a few days. A lot of great ideas and tips in this one. Thank you!
 
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I finally got some air run in the shop. When I started digging out the pipes and fittings, I was surprised at how much pipe I actually had. The air pipe will all get run with only a minimal purchase of fittings. I got enough done this last week that I was able to drail the portable and put it in storage.

The first thing I did is an experiment. We'll see how well it actually works. What I did was build a "cooling tower" out of 1 1/2" black iron. The air travels through a 1/2" pipe to the bottom of the tower, then expands into the larger area. The theory is that when it makes the transition, it slows down. As it slows and contacts the cool walls of the tower, water should drop out of the air stream. The tower also adds almost 16' of pipe to the system before the air even starts heading for a fitting. All the joints on this are wrapped with a lot of teflon tape and then coated with a sealer to minimize leaks. Every joint in the system is done the same way.

I machined a 3/4 bushing to make the transition from the 3/4" feed to the 1/2" inside tube. Then did a pretty bad job of welding it in place. I blame the new helmet and not enough light. And technique.
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Here's what the completed tower looks like:
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Here it is hung on the wall. There is no special significance to the S curve input pipe. I could not find shorter hose to replace the 3/4" hose I had on the compressor, so I just looped the pipe up to meet the hose. The little gold gizmo is a 175 PSI pressure relief valve. Max system pressure is normally 130 PSI. A pipe will run from that T to the far end of the dirty area with maybe a drop in the middle somewhere. There is a lot of odd length pipe left, so any drops will be where ever the joints end up.
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I didn't try to run pipe to the drops in the work room - too much trouble IMHO. I used 25' of reinforced 1/2" Goodyear air hose. It was only $30 at TSC.
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20 feet of pipe from the closet distribution point was perfect for hanging the 50' hose reel on the wall. It has it's own shutoff like all the drops.
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I put one drop by the mill and benches in the back corner and plumbed it with two outlets. One outlet uses the regulator off a HF dryer unit. It was about the only good part on the dryer.

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And there is one drop by the main bench. The filter/regulator is a traveling part with a quick connect on the back. I can move it around the shop as needed.
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Benefits of living in a town with three universities - dorm fridges on sale for $79. Break time, have a cold one! 110F outside, beer 37F inside.
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Nice work on the air lines. You will have to keep us posted on how the cooling system/dehumidifier concept works.

I have a hose reel that I really need to hang so I don't keep tripping over it. Then, one of these days I will need to figure out how to connect it to where the compressor will be. And your idea of having a cut-off at the reel makes perfect sense.
 
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It sounds like something out of Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc., but google "Franzinator" for the basic idea. Mines smaller in diameter. I think the original used 2" pipe - bet that would weigh a ton. The 1 1/2" stack is pretty hefty.

My grandson likes the diet root beer. It tastes as good as the regular stuff anyway, and leaves more room for the other beer. ;)
 
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I've heard of that cooling tower trick. A buddy of mine tried it on his system (which is very similar to yours) with 4" PVC (high-strength stuff). He didn't feel it worked that well for him.

I feel like every trick I've heard about keeping water out of the lines is nearly futile. The only proven way is with a big time, commercial air dryer to the tune of $750-$1k. :dunno:

I'm now at the point where I want to run my lines. I too was considering a large-diameter tower (from iron pipe) before heading over to the hose reel and a couple drops on the work benches. Guess I'll price (and weigh) it out and see if I want to try it.

BTW, I should know, but tell me what's the rationale behind the extended air filter piping on the compressor?
 
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The good thing about the hack is that even if it works a little, it didn't cost much anyway.

PVC won't work at all - been there, done that - before the AhHa moment of "PVC Bomb Squad". The iron at least has a large cool surface area for the air to hit. And the 60 gallon tank takes some of it out too. Both have drains I still need to finish and route out of the building.

I'm not too concerned about water in the lines that are up now. Every drop also has a 12" drip leg at the bottom to help catch any that comes down the pipe. Not much on those will be high demand air, except maybe the cutoff tool. The run to the far end of the shop will be a different deal because that would be where I would hook up for painting things. But I have a deal ready for that too - a surplus 10 CFM Hankison refrigerated air dryer. I scarfed it from work when they were upgrading from the pneumatic control system in a campus building. I could also add a pre-dryer cartridge type filter in front of the cooling tower.

The inlet pipe: in the old shop, that pipe and filter stuck up into the attic. I couldn't find the original filter for the compressor, so I just stuck that short pipe on there with the filter. It does give it an industrial look. :lol:
 
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