Hazet tool thread

[LNKMK8]

Thanks for the information! That certainly helps... One has what almost looks like a Snap-on style date code on it... Did Snap-on Industrial ever manufacture anything in Germany?

 

[Orangina]

Snap-on bought German companies like DWU (Belzer & Dowidat follow up)...

 

[LNKMK8]

Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm going to start a new thread as to not derail the HAZET thread.

 

[Ratchet.]

Picked up a .. rather rough 166 assistant today, a three tier one, with the removable posts, circa 1970s i think, This is my second Assistant, have already got a two tier version, in fair shape, but the extra layer will give me more space for my hazet tools.


When i say rough, its actually pretty straight and has very little rust, however somone has seen fit to screw on some random handles and a lock tab to it, and then proceed to paint the whole thing white.. badly




currently seeing if i can strip the awful white paint off, and order replacment rubber trim as as well as being painted white, one section has been cut to fit the pointless drawer handles,

will likely need to get hold of the correct colour paint for it though, as at the very least i need to weld up the random holes, and the paint may well be completly un-savable under that thick coat of white


As well as this one, the seller has this other assistant for sale.. seems manufactured by hazet as is German made and looks near identical (unlike the clones i have seen) but for Atorn, a company i had not heard of before, anyone seen one before?

 

[Orangina]

Hello Ratchet,

nice find - the 166 TS looks like a lot of work, good luck...
The rivets on top with holes look like the late model without yellow brakes - around 1976-1982.
The rubbers are new at Hazet at a low price. But the expanding fillers are black and yellow today - not silver like back then. So better try to clean and save these old filler ones.
Upper deck is near RAL 7001 silver grey (a simple grey, no metal effect!), the light blue is RAL 660-2 effect E, and HAZET sign yellow RAL 1021, dark blue RAL 5013.
The frame for the name tag on the front is missing - instead of the extra screws and handle.


Atorn exists since 2002 as a sub company of Hommel Hercules.
The current imprint of atorn.de contains 3 tool dealer companies - the target market is not really clear.
The gray painted HAZET tool trolleys (not only the 166 N - but not with this extra handle) with the blue ATORN logo are not offered at a lower price than the original HAZET. No idea what the point should be. Maybe because to much people prefer today colorless white/grey/black

regards,

 

[Ratchet.]

Hello Ratchet,

nice find - the 166 TS looks like a lot of work, good luck...
The rivets on top with holes look like the late model without yellow brakes - around 1976-1982.
The rubbers are new at Hazet at a low price. But the expanding fillers are black and yellow today - not silver like back then. So better try to clean and save these old filler ones.
Upper deck is near RAL 7001 silver grey (a simple grey, no metal effect!), the light blue is RAL 660-2 effect E, and HAZET sign yellow RAL 1021, dark blue RAL 5013.
The frame for the name tag on the front is missing - instead of the extra screws and handle.


Atorn exists since 2002 as a sub company of Hommel Hercules.
The current imprint of atorn.de contains 3 tool dealer companies - the target market is not really clear.
The gray painted HAZET tool trolleys (not only the 166 N - but not with this extra handle) with the blue ATORN logo are not offered at a lower price than the original HAZET. No idea what the point should be. Maybe because to much people prefer today colorless white/grey/black

regards,

Thanks, that is really helpful, surprised, but glad that they still offer some replacment parts, i thought it was likely newer than my my 70s 161 L, as the hazet badge is a seperate plastic part, rather than stamped in to the metal.

I will pick up the paint and replacement rubbers soon, sadly one of the filler pieces has been cut so will have to figure out what to do with that one, also on removing the random bolted on metal part where a padlock was presumably fitted i found there are what appears to be factory holes for a lock barrel, would that be correct, not been able to find a detailed photo.


Actually been doing some other repairs to it today, removed the stupid handles and welded up the holes, still need to remove the random hex bolts, not sure what they are even there for.

Also attempted to clean the paint off the wheels and plastic parts, semi successful, it cleaned off reasonably well from the wheels, and i discovered it has odd wheels, one is the original continental, the other a presumably later replacement with a 1994 date stamp, and is smaller diameter (despite the size marked on it being identical)

Alas the white paint onto the metalwork is well adhered and appears to be enamel, the sort that household appliances are painted in.

This has given me a theory on it being painted white, it has visible company asset numbers under the paint, and the white has been sprayed on pretty hevily, from a spray gun or similar.. the city/area i got it from is near to where there was a factory making white goods, so may well have been used there, and maybe someone stuck it through the paintbooth for some reason.

Whatever the reason, im going to have to completely sand/strip the paint back and repaint from scratch.

 

[AEAdam]

Thanks, that is really helpful, surprised, but glad that they still offer some replacment parts, i thought it was likely newer than my my 70s 161 L, as the hazet badge is a seperate plastic part, rather than stamped in to the metal.

I will pick up the paint and replacement rubbers soon, sadly one of the filler pieces has been cut so will have to figure out what to do with that one, also on removing the random bolted on metal part where a padlock was presumably fitted i found there are what appears to be factory holes for a lock barrel, would that be correct, not been able to find a detailed photo.


Actually been doing some other repairs to it today, removed the stupid handles and welded up the holes, still need to remove the random hex bolts, not sure what they are even there for.

Also attempted to clean the paint off the wheels and plastic parts, semi successful, it cleaned off reasonably well from the wheels, and i discovered it has odd wheels, one is the original continental, the other a presumably later replacement with a 1994 date stamp, and is smaller diameter (despite the size marked on it being identical)

Alas the white paint onto the metalwork is well adhered and appears to be enamel, the sort that household appliances are painted in.

This has given me a theory on it being painted white, it has visible company asset numbers under the paint, and the white has been sprayed on pretty hevily, from a spray gun or similar.. the city/area i got it from is near to where there was a factory making white goods, so may well have been used there, and maybe someone stuck it through the paintbooth for some reason.

Whatever the reason, im going to have to completely sand/strip the paint back and repaint from scratch.

please do some photo journalism for us. Really appreciate this thread guys.

 

[Ratchet.]

Some "special" Hazet tools i have, a recent aquisition and a few pics of the assistant resto.. i think i should maybe make its own thread elsewhere though rather than spam this one up


2742-13 an extra long uj type socket, bi-hex 13mm not sure if these were a special tool for something in particular or not, as i think you could get them in different socket sizes, with just the socket being different.



and an E11 female torx, not especially odd overall, but its a weird size that i have never come across the need for.. i only bought it as it was cheap haha.


Got this today, a very early 430 series box wrench, in 24/27mm, i believe this is 1930s production?



Have started repairing the assitant, cleaned the paint off the poles and gave them a quick polish, came up prety nicely, started welding up the holes in it, I discovered the extra hex bolts are holding the support plates.. seems this unit had a hard life and a good few of the spot welds have broken, then someone drilled and bolted it together, not straight mind, can see in the picture that the pole is far from central in the hole, it at least makes it easier for me to plug weld it back together (i sadly dont have a spot welder.. and i need to fill the drill holes anyway).

Found a pair of original rear wheels with l continental tyres, currently looking for some castors as the ones fitted dont appear to be the originals.. shame the new replacments available from hazet dont look the same as they are still german made

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

some progress with my HAZET 100/101 large tool cabinet from around 1970-1976
still in the works: CHROM VANADIUM inscription at the top is missing after paintwork, the lock (will be like original, I have all the parts together), I need a shorter saw blade (the long one new HAZET blade did not fit), ...

before:


now (after clean, dent, paintwork, equip):



regards,

 

[Orangina]

2742-13 an extra long uj type socket, bi-hex 13mm not sure if these were a special tool for something...

27xx and 28xx are special tools for Mercedes-Benz.
2742-13 is for the hard to reach injection pump and the alternator at early 70s cars as the W114 and W115.

Got this today, a very early 430 series box wrench, in 24/27mm, i believe this is 1930s production?

the 430 series is very old but build up to 2005 (also part of my tool cabinet, see inside top right).
The logo underline shape is indistinct. I see a U shape of the line - If it is an U shape it will be before ~1949 - if L shape before ~1951 - afterwards a simple line.

regards,

 

[Outahere]

Orangina, what is the tool at the bottom of the left door, just below the adjustable wrench ? Is it for piston rings?

 

[Ratchet.]

Hello everyone,

some progress with my HAZET 100/101 large tool cabinet from around 1970-1976
still in the works: CHROM VANADIUM inscription at the top is missing after paintwork, the lock (will be like original, I have all the parts together), I need a shorter saw blade (the long one new HAZET blade did not fit), ...

before:


now (after clean, dent, paintwork, equip):



regards,

Wow that is beautiful, been seriously tempted by one thats on ebay right now, but seller wants £1200 or so for it, has the small a lettering but is a little rough, doors have been modified for a non standard lock and has some rust on bottom edge that may need repair..


for the 430, it has the 'U' shaped line, so pre 1949 then.

 

[Shelbylex]

Orangina, this is GREAT!!! Please post the pictures of the drawer outline (never saw one like this - I think we did not get too many on our side of the pond...)

 

[Orangina]

Hello,

Orangina, what is the tool at the bottom of the left door, just below the adjustable wrench ? Is it for piston rings?

Yes, its a HAZET 790-1 for small piston rings 50-100 mm (~ 2-3.9 ") available from 1949 till today.

Since 1950 in different sizes - one and later two for bigger sizes added. Since 2000 with plastic covered handles. There was also a previous tool in 1938, but with a slightly different shape. I saw similar ones with other branding - as far as I can remember e.g. Belzer - I therefore assume that it is a purchased part and not an in-house production.

Orangina, this is GREAT!!! Please post the pictures of the drawer outline (never saw one like this - I think we did not get too many on our side of the pond...)

The top drawer contains in the middle the insert of a HAZET 900 1/2" ratchet box - unused space at delivery for small tools left and right.

The under open drawer is for heavy car body tools - like 4 car body hammers, 2 big bending irons as general purpose spoons, 3 hand anvil tools in different shapes... (I will not complete these, as I rarely use them privately and I have other no-names for this)

Wow that is beautiful, been seriously tempted by one thats on ebay right now... has the small a lettering...

If you looking for a history of versions, I put one together: HAZET 100 history PDF



regards,

 

[Shelbylex]

Thank you, Orangina!!!

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

HAZET 1934 adjustable body file - since 1954 - were also part of tool cabinets and body tool sets.
Back when car bodies were not filled with plastic putty but with heated tin...

The older Hazet (little "a") version 1954-1965 still has a large hand wing screw for bending the file to the body shape,
the later HAZET version, on the other hand, is more for an open-end wrench and with "W-Germany" end 70s and before 1990.
Today's versions have black handles.

I suspect that it is a purchased product, since there were/are similar files from other well known German tool suppliers. A typical manufacturer for files would be e.g. "PFERD" (founded 1799, name and logo like English "horse"). But maybe another smaller supplier.




regards,

 

[Ratchet.]

Hello everyone,

HAZET 1934 adjustable body file - since 1954 - were also part of tool cabinets and body tool sets.
Back when car bodies were not filled with plastic putty but with heated tin...

The older Hazet (little "a") version 1954-1965 still has a large hand wing screw for bending the file to the body shape,
the later HAZET version, on the other hand, is more for an open-end wrench and with "W-Germany" end 70s and before 1990.
Today's versions have black handles.

I suspect that it is a purchased product, since there were/are similar files from other well known German tool suppliers. A typical manufacturer for files would be e.g. "PFERD" (founded 1799, name and logo like English "horse"). But maybe another smaller supplier.




regards,

something else i need to look out for haha i do a little body leading as a hobby, but just have a cheap unbranded file holder as of now, will be carryign out soem lead repairs on the Ts166 assistant... which i recently bought example of, this one is in better shape, and hasnt been painted or drilled into, but has cracks where the wheels mount, will probably weld and repair the cracks and keep it in original condition otherwise, and use it in place of my 161, which i want to restore next....


Was going through my hazet wrenches, and struck me how many different finishes hazet have used on the wrenches over the years.




not in order of the photo, but early small 'a' 12/13mm has a goldish tinge to the plating, which i see on a lot of older german tools from other makes, inclusing GDR stuff, i have a couple of 600 series wrenches that are also in this finish.

The slightly later(?) small 'a' 18/19 has a darker silver plating, but very matte, and the jaws have visible machine marks, the newer (90s?) 12/13mm and 20/21mm have a satin kind of finish, and the odd one is the 22/23 which has polished flanks on the jaws, same as the combination wrenches have.

i actually prefer the satin finish of the of the more recent production myself, but without the polished jaws

interestingly seems the very latest wrenches are different again, as can be seen on these two 600N wrenches, the newer one is very silvery looking, nice, but i prefer the older finish (or is it just that the new one is unused?)

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

Was going through my hazet wrenches, and struck me how many different finishes hazet have used on the wrenches over the years.

Yes - but keep also in mind, that at some time ranges (e.g. around 1954) you could get up to 3 versions of the 450 wrench:
Chrome plated with or without high gloss polished heads - or simply burnished.

here some more of my tools as for piston rings:
HAZET 790-1 (1949 till today) for 50 to 100 mm piston ring diameter
HAZET 2522 (1970-1972) for 70 to 100 mm piston ring diameter - followed by the water cooled universal version 794 U-3 till today
HAZET 2523-85 (1950-1976) there were up to 4 sizes at the end starting at 75 mm diameter, this late 85.5 mm version is for 1600 ccm engines since 1965.



some of my old VW socket wrenches
Hazet 2527-13 (1961-1979) for fuel pump types 1, 2 and 3 and temperature sensor of the injection engines of types 3 and 4
Hazet 2527-14 (1950-1972) for fuel pump for earlier type 1, 2
underneath an old packaging bag with the mascot Hazet Harry



regards

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

some nice videos of a visit in HAZET production:
(sorry in German - use subtitles if needed, visitor is a larger chain retailer for motorcycle accessories etc)

show room, tools production:

torque wrenches, tool carts production at 5:40

regards,

 

[silkman]

Excellent service from the Hazet service center. I sent them an email about a broken screwdriver and they sent me a new one FOC, no questions asked. This is their impact cap screwdriver, from a set of 5.



New and old together.

 

[F-22]

Excellent service from the Hazet service center. I sent them an email about a broken screwdriver and they sent me a new one FOC, no questions asked. This is their impact cap screwdriver, from a set of 5.



New and old together.

I think I have the same screwdriver. Really like how well it fits in the hand.

 

[Ratchet.]

picked up a fair few things in last few weeks, mostly spanners..


also got an early example of this style of 916 ratchet, i have two already, this one is definitely the oldest, has slotted screws to hold it together.



got it along with with some small 'a' 1/2" sockets for not a lot of money, mainly as the ratchet would only turn one way... this seems to be a common issue on these, as the riveted on knob gets loose, and if they havent been lubed well enough, the asymetric design of the pawls means they always jam the same way, as it needs more force to push the right hand pawl over (looking at it from the back) and wear exacerbates this, re-rivitend the knob and cleaning and lubing it has fixed the issue, another thing to note is that originally the screws holding these together are peened over to stop them backing out, so need to be careful when undoing them.


interesting to note the post 1965 one i have has a modification to add a detent ball, probably to fix the issue.




also interesting to note that this rather distinctive ratchet design is virtually identical to the 1940s Herbrand S-10, did Hazet license the design i wonder?

Also got round to welding the cracked tub in my 'new' 166TS, still has small cracks where the spot welds for the supports are, but its good enough for now, once i get paint matched will tackle those.

 

[Orangina]

Hello,

I suspect there are more than just 2 variants of this 916 "Herbrand S-10" style (USA, since 1941)
with little "a" "Hazet" 1952-1965 and "HAZET" from 1965-1969.

The slotted screws are visible in the 1952 & 1954 catalogues - in 1958 its Phillips screws.
So nice find And a new desire for me...



I also have the little a with the bulges at the bottom - but I also know the flat plate version with Phillips screws.
But I've often seen the recessed handle painted dark blue/black (not just rusty/dirty - may be around 1958?) - the first few times I thought someone had done it themselves.


I finally have to take new photos, there are still some missing from my collection...

Regards,

 

[Ratchet.]

Nice info @Orangina , i need to get the three i have together as they have differences in the text on them, the other early one i have one has had a name etched into the head sadly, and then somone tried to polish it out, so i need to see if i can undo that a little...

And thats neat, im guessing the one with the logo on the head is a very early one indeed, and very uncommon.

just after typing that post i came across another small a version on ebay.de that has the detents.. though i suppose it may have been changed at some point in its life, as it also only seems to have one screw fitted.. a slotted one.


Nice collection, I need to get some other Hazet ratchets as only have these three 916, and a much later round head 3/8 drive 8814/F.

For some reason this style of 916 is the most commonly found over here, i guess Hazet was most popular in the uk in the period they were made.

 

[LostBoy(IRL)]

Have a few pieces, some bought new individual sockets etc and one of the advent calendars from a few years back that is a really nice small set.
Bought a few from carboot sales etc, but seldom see them for sale, will share the vintage

Two on the right are small a, and then a selection of others styles

 

[Orangina]

nice find - the two on the left are pre-war from the 1920s

 

[LostBoy(IRL)]

Cheers, knew they were quite old, but not that old! Had planned on a bit of research on them when I got some time.
Is there a site you quite recommend to read up on dating them etc? As until I read this thread I hadn't even noticed the small a captial A.
Just reading back on this before I got reply, and yes I do realise I asked you a bit of a 'let me Google that for you' question!

 

[LostBoy(IRL)]

Actually just went back to the start of this thread and all the info is here, will keep reading and learning,
Will post up a few other items I have tomorrow if I remember

 

[Monte]

Hazet 665-1 wheel weight pliers

 

[Ratchet.]

Hazet 665-1 wheel weight pliers

Nice to see something as.. mundane(?) as a wheel weight plier is still made in germany, though none of the places i ever worked that required them would buy such a thing. prefering to buy the cheapest they could find, even if they are awful cheap junk that last 5 minutes, though i later did pick up a pair of belzer ones.. and havent needed to use them since, typical.

interesting seeing it has a bonded on rubber end too, to stop damage to rims i presume

 

[silkman]

Anyone can help with this light? Need to open it up non-destructively and replace the 18650 inside...

Its good and bright but the battery is a joke, it has spent most of its life on the charger than doing actual work.

Someone in amazon de has commented that he replaced the battery with a bigger one but I cant find a clue how to pry it open. The two small screws in the back do nothing, they are just for that hook cover that I already removed.

 

[F-22]

Probably lots of clips holding it together. Probably made in china and kind of not worthy of its name...

 

[silkman]

Probably lots of clips holding it together. Probably made in china and kind of not worthy of its name...

Yes, its made in China but its not a bad tool; led is strong and the magnets are good. I have dropped it a ton of times and immersed in fluids, it has held well.

But why Hazet put a small 1200mAh battery when for $1-$2 more they could put a 3500mAh battery inside? Thats why I want to upgrade it with a bigger battery.

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

rare special transmission suspension wrench HAZET 2577 (1967-1972):



and a second oil filter wrench HAZET 2596 (1970-1972) now in original box with the rod 768-4:



and some HAZET bottle opener:
on the left in silver of the 100th anniversary in 1968 (on side with factory image, the other side with HAZET logo like the golden one) -
on the right in gold around 2000 of the HAZET Club program (both sides similar) -
and in the middle currently around 2020 HAZET 1868-10 based on the 1/4" ratchet 863P



regards from Berlin,

 

[Orangina]

Hello again everybody,

HAZET 450/8 Rd - "Remscheid" bracket (1933-1988), for 8 type 450 wrenches.




(this one is before 1965 because of little "a" at the back - the sticker at the front add by me - and from the early 1950s because the use of prewar "DRP" abbreviation for Deutsches Reichs Patent.)


Could attached by screws to a wall or car or at prepared old HAZET tool cabinets as my HAZET 100.



regards,

 

[Monte]

Hazet tire lever

 

[Orangina]

yep, have also these HAZET 650 tire lever and mounting lever - short old 12" ones for bikes and newer bigger 20" ones for cars:
(useful also for many other works - not only tires )

 

[Ratchet.]

yep, have also these HAZET 650 tire lever and mounting lever - short old 12" ones for bikes and newer bigger 20" ones for cars:
(useful also for many other works - not only tires )

I found one of the short ones a long time ago, in poor shape with a lot of rust and missing chrome, gave it a good wire brush/de-rust and polish recently and it came up.. half decent actully


picked up a bunch more things,

2573 special tool for aircooled volkswagen oil cooler nuts, handle has had what looks like a screw inserted and gound flush, i assume maybe they got annoyed at the handle coming out? has also had one side filed down.. probably for clearance, i forgot to photograph that though




got a west german marked 32mm 600 wrench to match the 27 and 30 i already have.. also got another 30, same style as the w-german but marked germany.. and a slightly later 32

interesting to note that they extensively changed the style of the 600 at some point in the 90s(?) before the 600N came out




been doing more work on the 166TS, but going to make a thread on that later.. for now heres a photo of the less messed with 166TS i bought more recently now ive repaired where the base was cracked,

there are still a few cracks near the spot welds where the poles fit in, but will fix those once i get paint mixed to match, as the colour i got for the other one is close but not identical, and a touch in will be obvious (i dont want to restore this one.. yet)

most of the tools in it are also Hazet .. note set of 450N's i recently got.. need to find some more of the old style metal clips for wrenches, or something that works the same

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

maybe there is someone here who can help:
what were the original colors of the early bodywork file around 1950? Does anyone have a colored comparison picture?

In the 1950 and 1951 catalogs, the body file in the large Hazet 100 tool cabinet is still without a Hazet order number,
and has a different shape than the one from 1952, which is then made of metal without wooden handles - first known as Hazet 1910, then from 1954 as Hazet 1934 (see photos below).

Unfortunately, so far I only have these black and white pictures from the 1950 and 1951 catalogs and I'm not sure how to restore them:


I recognize the typical light blue color on many metal parts.
But while the small knob wood handle is stained reddish, the main handle is colored more brown - maybe it was replaced.
In the catalog picture I would rather type the same color as the files - so light wood in a natural color?
Does anyone have a tip - or even a colored comparison picture?




my later historical Hazet 1934 bodywork files:
(the screw is used to adjust/bend the file into convex/concave shape)


regards,

 

[LostBoy(IRL)]

Just a heads up to anyone interested, hazet 23 advent calendar reduced to €44 on amazon.de.