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Pics should work again...somehow I hit a monthly bandwidth limit on Photobucket that I didn't even know existed. Posting too many pics to threads apparently. It reset today.
 
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2 coats of oil based Kilz primer will make a great base and seal up the OSB.

I don't know much about paint at all, but I'm planning on having the painter cover the windows and doors and spray every surface with 2 coats of primer. Then spray the whole space with one coat of a white(ish) paint. The drywall areas should be good at that point. Then I'm going to have the OSB rolled with a light gray. It should be good and covered by then. I think I'm going to paint the built in workbench tops with some sort of thick epoxy or throw a cheap counter top on them or something too. I'm also trying to decide if I epoxy the floor or not. My builder doesn't think it's a good use of money. He thinks it'll get beat up and not look good after a while and I should just leave the concrete since it's a working garage. I just love the way the epoxy looks. It isn't cheap though so I'm torn. If I do it (75% likelihood) I'm going to do that in a medium dark green. A very natural, woodsy, grassy shade of green. I think that would look sweet. Thoughts?
 

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Just curious and if you don't mind sharing do you know how much you paid per sq.ft of drywall to get it hung and taped?

Cannot wait to see final garage!
 
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Just curious and if you don't mind sharing do you know how much you paid per sq.ft of drywall to get it hung and taped?

Cannot wait to see final garage!

They charged $30 sheet which was a little high on a per sheet basis but there were only like 48 sheets and they had to hang a bunch up pretty high so it wasn't real easy. I guess it ended up being a little less than $1/sf since the garage is about 1500sf and that's about what the drywall and mud labor cost. I haven't gotten the bill on the materials yet.

I also had to pay for the OSB and builder time on the bottom floor walls, but that's much harder to calculate. Supposedly it's cheaper than drywall now though.
 

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And those were 12' sheets?
And the $30/sheet was just labor, didn't include the cost of the drywall?
 
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And those were 12' sheets?
And the $30/sheet was just labor, didn't include the cost of the drywall?

Yes 12' sheets and no I don't think it included the material cost. My builder has an account going for the build at the local builders supply store. I haven't seen the most recent bill. Kinda don't want to!
 

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Great build!

I love the beam and the building.

The Bronco's present lift height is just perfect, in my view. Set up like yours, you could hold your own just about anywhere.

I literally learned how to drive in a Bronco.
My Dad had several over the years, starting in the sixties and ending with a '76 (I think) I still have the back seat here :)


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The Bronco's present lift height is just perfect, in my view. Set up like yours, you could hold your own just about anywhere.

I literally learned how to drive in a Bronco.
My Dad had several over the years, starting in the sixties and ending with a '76 (I think) I still have the back seat here :)

I practically learned how to drive in a Bronco too. My second car was a '69. No power brakes or steering. 3 speed. Loved that truck!

Thanks for the compliments on the garage! I'm really happy with how it's shaping up. The built-in shelves and work benches are done now too. Only carpentry left really is the rail around the loft opening and the back deck.
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I can't wait to see it all painted. They got the concrete apron form done today too. Painter should be able to start next week. I'm guessing that will take a week with the epoxy floor too.

I got a scary quote on asphalt today! Nearly $5k! That seems really high to me so I'm going to get a couple more quotes at least.
 

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Thanks for the compliments on the garage! I'm really happy with how it's shaping up. The built-in shelves and work benches are done now too. Only carpentry left really is the rail around the loft opening and the back deck.
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I got a scary quote on asphalt today! Nearly $5k! That seems really high to me so I'm going to get a couple more quotes at least.

I couldn't even get an inspection without a railing installed when I added onto the house, don't leave it open to long and temp Murphy...:shocking:

Interesting take on the door into the stairs - from the side!! :eyecrazy: I assume there is storage under there, never seen a full height door in that aplication before. Not sure what to make of that...but it oughta be functional :beer:

My cousin is a builder and says for some areas it's cheaper to place concrete than get a paving crew in, your milage may vary...
 

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thanks for the update! i have a quote for around 1.10-1.35/sq.ft in the south Jersey area for drywall so it looks like our areas arnt too far off.

Cannot wait to see the final garage :D
 
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What are the plans for the railing ?

We've been waiting on the bullnose that's going around the floor under the pickets for the railing. It's going to be like a deck railing basically. There are 3 more columns going in there too. The two going in the long side are functional in that they hold up two 2x10s set on edge above the rafters so I can hook hoists to the ceiling. The one on the short end will be just be to match the look. Hope that makes sense. And more hopefully I have pics to show you in a week!
 
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I couldn't even get an inspection without a railing installed when I added onto the house, don't leave it open to long and temp Murphy...:shocking:

Interesting take on the door into the stairs - from the side!! :eyecrazy: I assume there is storage under there, never seen a full height door in that aplication before. Not sure what to make of that...but it oughta be functional :beer:

My cousin is a builder and says for some areas it's cheaper to place concrete than get a paving crew in, your milage may vary...

Oh I won't be able to get inspected before the railing is in. We put a temp rail up for the pre-drywall inspection. I certainly don't want it open at all...waiting on the bullnose material for the bottom side of the rail. For some reason it's taking longer than expected for the builder's supply place to source.

Yeah the door in the stairs has become somewhat of the running joke. There is storage underneath and we could have cut the door to fit at an angle, but the normal 6'8" door fit there exactly and it kinda looks better that way I think! Either way it gets lots of questions! I'll post some pics of it up closer open and closed so you can see.

That's a really good point on the concrete. I wish I had a concrete driveway. Maybe I should get a quote on that. Although I already heard that removing my current driveway would cost ~$2500 alone in service and dump fees!
 
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I had to climb up on the roof of my house to install this weather station thing I got. The view of the garage and the mountains in the background from way up there was awesome. I wish I had this view all the time!
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Is your weather station attached to a DWV pipe ? Although it looks like it in the picture, did you use black zip ties ?

I have no idea what a DWV pipe is! It's a vent pipe for the plumbing. No heat or anything. I did strap it on with thick black zip ties. Hopefully it holds. We're getting 50MPH winds right this second actually!
 

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Yeah the door in the stairs has become somewhat of the running joke. There is storage underneath and we could have cut the door to fit at an angle, but the normal 6'8" door fit there exactly and it kinda looks better that way I think! Either way it gets lots of questions! I'll post some pics of it up closer open and closed so you can see.

The storage under the stairs would be great as a compressor closet. Adding some sound-deadening sheathing inside the storage space, weatherstripping around the door, and some foam panels to the door should do a pretty good job of muffling the sound of the compressor running.
 
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The storage under the stairs would be great as a compressor closet. Adding some sound-deadening sheathing inside the storage space, weatherstripping around the door, and some foam panels to the door should do a pretty good job of muffling the sound of the compressor running.

Might watch how much heat builds up in the closet though. I would want ventilation to get rid of the heat, and let air in to be compressed.
 
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The storage under the stairs would be great as a compressor closet. Adding some sound-deadening sheathing inside the storage space, weatherstripping around the door, and some foam panels to the door should do a pretty good job of muffling the sound of the compressor running.

Might watch how much heat builds up in the closet though. I would want ventilation to get rid of the heat, and let air in to be compressed.

I was going to go stick the compressor there, but my builder talked me out of it. We're building a little "closet" under the deck for the compressor. This is going to be insulated to deaden the sound for the neighbors and ventilated with a thermostatic bathroom fan to keep the heat down. I had them install a switch on the inside to turn it (and the fan) on and off too. Should work well there.
 
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gone for a week and they got a lot done. pretty much completely ready for paint now!
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Boxing this beam in too so I can put some outlets in it and hide the air line.
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Paint will probably take a week inside and out. then all i need is asphalt and i can start using it!
 

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Might watch how much heat builds up in the closet though. I would want ventilation to get rid of the heat, and let air in to be compressed.
Yep, we have our compressor at my hobby shop in a ~3x2.5ft box, and put in a duct booster type fan to **** away hot air. It cycles faster and produces drier air now. Definitely something to consider. :beer: Now, to make it only cycle on when the compressor runs and for ~1min after... That will be a project for, likely, never, as running it all the time when the compressor is on is so much easier. :evil:
I was going to go stick the compressor there, but my builder talked me out of it. We're building a little "closet" under the deck for the compressor. This is going to be insulated to deaden the sound for the neighbors and ventilated with a thermostatic bathroom fan to keep the heat down. I had them install a switch on the inside to turn it (and the fan) on and off too. Should work well there.
Sounds perfect! :beer: And your garage is really starting to look like a garage. I'm sure you're looking forward to being able to use it soon!!
 
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Yeah I'm really happy with it too. Nicer than I thought it would be honestly. This builder is just great. Real lucky I know him as he and his sons just take great pride in what they do! Kinda lost on most builders around here these days as they're all struggling and just throwing up whatever.
 

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great idea to box in the support post and use the box for locating outlets and air. A central location like that will be very handy. That might be a great place for a cordless tool charging station as well.
 

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Since you're putting the compressor outside of the main garage and not under the stairs, what is the "window opening" to the right of the door ?

Do you anticipate an issues painting the PT 6x6 post upstairs ? Generally they need to dry out beofre any coating is applied.
 
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Since you're putting the compressor outside of the main garage and not under the stairs, what is the "window opening" to the right of the door ?

Do you anticipate an issues painting the PT 6x6 post upstairs ? Generally they need to dry out beofre any coating is applied.

That little opening is a cubby for my stereo. Have to have tunes and that was the perfect place to keep it out of the way. Some sort of water heater is going under it. I was looking at these $130 instant heat ones on amazon. Seem like the most efficient. And cheapest. Win win.

I am a little concerned about painting that 6x6. Everything else is fir and should take paint fine. I'm guessing that post will need some TLC over the next few years. I thought about just leaving it untainted for a while but am going to go for it and hope for the best!
 

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That cubby will make agreat place for the stereo and out of the way. Just make sure you have ample power to run the instant on water heater. Last I knew (things do change though) they require a significant space inthe breaker box to power them.

While I'm no expert painter, I would think you'd want to use a oil based primer on that PT post, might want to ask the people at the paint store about it though.

Any chance that you're going to make some "big steel " brackets to attach the PT post to the beam, while it may not be necessary, it would add some character.
 

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I'm a little late to the party, but had to congratulate on a wonderful project. Your property is amazing and this new addition just takes it up another notch. I can't imagine how much fun I could have with a place like that! Very jealous.
 
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That cubby will make agreat place for the stereo and out of the way. Just make sure you have ample power to run the instant on water heater. Last I knew (things do change though) they require a significant space inthe breaker box to power them.

While I'm no expert painter, I would think you'd want to use a oil based primer on that PT post, might want to ask the people at the paint store about it though.

Any chance that you're going to make some "big steel " brackets to attach the PT post to the beam, while it may not be necessary, it would add some character.

**** you're right about the water heater. I never even paid attention to the voltage and it needs 240! I don't think I can do that now that everything's sealed up. I guess I'll have to go with a tank one. Such a waste!

I'm going to talk to the painter about that beam too. I really appreciate the tip!

You're right about the steel brackets too. That would look really good. Maybe that's something I can take on as one of my first projects in there. I'm trying to get into working with metal and they would be a good "beginner" project. Thanks man...you're a wealth of info and ideas!
 
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I'm a little late to the party, but had to congratulate on a wonderful project. Your property is amazing and this new addition just takes it up another notch. I can't imagine how much fun I could have with a place like that! Very jealous.

Thanks so much man. I plan on having a lot of fun in there!
 

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**** you're right about the water heater. I never even paid attention to the voltage and it needs 240! I don't think I can do that now that everything's sealed up. I guess I'll have to go with a tank one. Such a waste!

I'm going to talk to the painter about that beam too. I really appreciate the tip!

You're right about the steel brackets too. That would look really good. Maybe that's something I can take on as one of my first projects in there. I'm trying to get into working with metal and they would be a good "beginner" project. Thanks man...you're a wealth of info and ideas!



Unless you get a gas water heater, it's still going to require 220/230/240 or whatever they're calling it. . . .


Whoa, I'm wrong there, I just did a Google search for 120V water heaters. I did find this one and it's tankless, 120V and a 20amp breaker. ;)

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EEMAX-Electric-Tankless-Water-Heater-6VEE8
 
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I noticed you have wall-mounted A/C units downstairs and upstairs. Are those also supplying heat (heat pumps) or do you have another method of heating the garage? Great project!
 
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