Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Nick's Two-Car Detached Vdub Garage
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
That's just so frustrating what happened with the spoiler. No matter if you get a new one, if you get compensated or not, it's just the fact of using that whole time and energy just to remove it again, that *****. I feel that especially with kids, loosing time just makes me more frustrated as it's the only thing no one can get more of, and I always seem to run out of it 
Hmm, you are correct that I have only tried with my local shop that I know well. Also, I bet your shocks are more expensive than my car, so I haven't stressed that much
With threaded rod compressors, I think it just depends on the coils and the space you have. Sometimes it has been tricky to find a place to get enough space for the compressor, but also to wind enough to get it compressed enough to loosen the strut end bolt. I am very cautious with all these things, and still had enough courage to do it, so I think it is feasible. But I just hate it nowadays, especially when you have the spring on the floor/table and try to compress it enough to get the strut in to get the end bolt, and it never seems enough and still have the wind a little bit more! If you choose to do it, as many have, you'll probably see what I mean Good luck with either option!
Hmm, you are correct that I have only tried with my local shop that I know well. Also, I bet your shocks are more expensive than my car, so I haven't stressed that much
With threaded rod compressors, I think it just depends on the coils and the space you have. Sometimes it has been tricky to find a place to get enough space for the compressor, but also to wind enough to get it compressed enough to loosen the strut end bolt. I am very cautious with all these things, and still had enough courage to do it, so I think it is feasible. But I just hate it nowadays, especially when you have the spring on the floor/table and try to compress it enough to get the strut in to get the end bolt, and it never seems enough and still have the wind a little bit more! If you choose to do it, as many have, you'll probably see what I mean
Good luck with either option!Mr. Roboto
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Nick!
Had a chance to get caught up this afternoon. The kitchen looks great and I’m sure it must have been nice to have some alone time from the family to handle that, and do some things by yourself. My older daughter is glued to my hip, so I understand how satisfying that time can be for a change.
Nice to see some car stuff going on too. I was nervous for you when that tune failed at first. Bricking your ECU over a failed flash can be a scary and expensive moment, but I’m glad to see it all worked out!
What a bummer on that spoiler too, but I agree with you. The one you ordered does fit the lines of the car much better. I would also go through the effort to make the swap, despite it being a super annoying change to make.
Your time at the beach looked like a lot of fun too!
Keep up the great work
Had a chance to get caught up this afternoon. The kitchen looks great and I’m sure it must have been nice to have some alone time from the family to handle that, and do some things by yourself. My older daughter is glued to my hip, so I understand how satisfying that time can be for a change.
Nice to see some car stuff going on too. I was nervous for you when that tune failed at first. Bricking your ECU over a failed flash can be a scary and expensive moment, but I’m glad to see it all worked out!
What a bummer on that spoiler too, but I agree with you. The one you ordered does fit the lines of the car much better. I would also go through the effort to make the swap, despite it being a super annoying change to make.
Your time at the beach looked like a lot of fun too!
Keep up the great work
OP
nicholam77
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Very true!
Exactly. I'm in no rush. As long as they get me the right thing in the end it's fine. Speak of the devil I just saw the new order placed a minute ago!
That's just so frustrating what happened with the spoiler. No matter if you get a new one, if you get compensated or not, it's just the fact of using that whole time and energy just to remove it again, that *****. I feel that especially with kids, loosing time just makes me more frustrated as it's the only thing no one can get more of, and I always seem to run out of it
You're spot on Matias, using the time to do it twice (with no end result) was the main frustration. You are 100% right about kids and there not being enough hours in the day!
Thanks! Alone time is a rarity, and it was definitely nice. I'm an introvert and I even need a break from my own family sometimes, though I rarely get it.
It's probably somewhat my own fault since as a father it's really important to me to be a 50/50 partner in raising our kids and doing domestic household stuff. But my wife and I are not very good at giving each other individual space from the kids. It's not the easiest to do with two of them, as you know. I'm work-from-home most days still, and that's honestly helped a lot with bringing some peace and quiet and balance into the equation.Yeah! Pales in comparison to your Jeep work but it's something
. The ECU flash definitely had me my pants a little.I'm used to the tune already and hungry for more. But no clutch slip yet so I'll be leaving it where it's at for the time being.
Keep up the great work
I have a million things cookin', I'll try to keep the momentum up!
With threaded rod compressors, I think it just depends on the coils and the space you have. Sometimes it has been tricky to find a place to get enough space for the compressor, but also to wind enough to get it compressed enough to loosen the strut end bolt. I am very cautious with all these things, and still had enough courage to do it, so I think it is feasible. But I just hate it nowadays, especially when you have the spring on the floor/table and try to compress it enough to get the strut in to get the end bolt, and it never seems enough and still have the wind a little bit more! If you choose to do it, as many have, you'll probably see what I mean
So, my latest thought is to spend a little more and get some entry level coilovers. In which case I would not have to use a spring compressor, I think.
My rationale is the springs I have (VWR Racingline) seem to not pair very well with the most common aftermarket lowering shocks like Bilstein B8, Koni Yellow, etc. It's not a popular combo and I've read complaints about bounciness, or hitting the bump stops, or too firm a ride. Most people use those shocks with other brand springs.
That led me to use VWR's own shocks, which should be a nice match with their springs. And price is good. But I was chatting with a rep and they said drop is 15-25mm, which seems less than where I'm at now with the stock shocks. Not sure why that would be since I figure the springs set the ride height, but he said more than 25mm would be unexpected. And I think I want a *little* more than that.
A full cup kit (something like Bilstein's + a popular spring combo) would be in the same territory as entry level coils. So that's where I'm at, hoping an entry level coil might give me better ride quality and more adjustability for ride height.
The ones I'm looking at are ST X, Bilstein B14 PSS, or BC Racing BR Series, which are all about the same price point. They are all a bit different. The ST X are dual tube whereas the Bilstein and BC Racing are monotube, and the BC's have adjustable damping and the others do not.
None of them are stainless steel — the ST X are galvanized, the B14 are treated with some corrosion protector, and the BC Racing are treated and powdercoated. Obviously in MN winters are harsh and the roads get salted. I'm not sure how worried I should be about corrosion with any of these options.
All seem to be well-reviewed as far as ride quality for a daily driver.
If the coilovers come assembled, my thought is to just get new top mounts and bushings and then I could just leave the stock strut assembly intact, and just swap it out for the coilover without having to take the springs off.
I like to research things to infinity, and I'm having a tough time committing to a specific setup, but I really need to get something ordered because it's pothole season here and it's brutal out there!
OP
nicholam77
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Help!! Talk me out of (or possibly into) coilovers!!!
I know this isn't strictly a car forum, but I know some of you are VW and/or car enthusiasts that follow along here. And sometimes true car forums are tunnel vision and not that helpful.
I realize this is subjective and personal opinions will differ, but I've boiled down my suspension refresh to two options and I'm having trouble deciding which to do.
Option A
VWR Racingline sport dampers. These are aftermarket shocks that are designed to work with the lowering springs I already have. Same brand. I would keep my current ride height and have no adjustability, essentially creating a cup kit meant to work together, except I already have the springs.
They are a great price, well-reviewed, and I'm confident the ride quality would be good.
This is the safe route.
Option B
ST X Coilovers. After a lot of research, I settled on these as a coilover option because they have decent height adjustability for the price point, and they are made in Germany by KW Automotive (ST X is the galvinized equivalent of KW-V1's, which by all accounts ride well according to the internet). They are well-reviewed on the Mk7 golf platform and ride quality should be pretty good.
The purpose of going the coilover route would be to get a little more low. I know I've posted my car before but here are some current pics showing the ride height with the springs:
At some angles, especially when close to and above the car, it looks quite good in my opinion. But at other times, like when farther away from the vehicle or in profile, I'm sometimes wishing I had a little more low. And I'm talking like 10mm more.
I'm not a fan of the slammed look, but I do like a tight fitment. Not my car of course, but here's an example pic of what I'd be looking for:
Not tire tucking, but like I said earlier just a tiny bit more than what I have.
Ok, now for the downsides.
The ST X are height adjustable only, and to get that ride height (or more than I have now) I'd be on the lower end of the adjustability. Reviews have still said the ride quality is good all the way down, but that's subjective.
The ST X have galvinized shock bodies, and I'm somewhat worried about rust in our harsh winter climate where road salts are routinely used. I've found videos like this one, and other accounts on forums of people running them for 2, 3, even 5 seasons in places like Canada that see real winters, with very little corrosion. An ST suspensions rep I contacted said they would realistically be fine if preventative maintenance was done... washing and coating with T-9 Boeshield every 3-5 months was their recommendation. I've also read many swear by marine grease, coilover covers, even Saran-wrapping or duct taping the threads.
So I'm pretty sure I could get 5+ years out of them with some maintenance.
However... do I want to worry about it and add those steps to the maintenance routine? I don't love the sound of that.
I'm not sure if I would need to height adjust them each spring/fall or not. 10mm extra doesn't sound like much. But with the ice dams in our alley this year I was scraping the underside of my car to get out for about 3 months straight. More low wouldn't help that. And the pot holes are terrible. I would rather set-it-and-forget-it at the lower height, otherwise that's yet another task to stay on top of twice a year.
Lastly, while I can afford them, they are significantly more money than the VWR dampers ($1200 vs $550). I've always been curious about coilovers, and for summer I wouldn't mind making my car stand out a bit more as "modified", as right now it's very OEM+. But I'm not sure the extra look is worth it.
I feel like I know the correct answer, but thought I would throw it to the GJ forum in case I'm overlooking something.
Things would be simpler if I lived in Southern California!
I know this isn't strictly a car forum, but I know some of you are VW and/or car enthusiasts that follow along here. And sometimes true car forums are tunnel vision and not that helpful.
I realize this is subjective and personal opinions will differ, but I've boiled down my suspension refresh to two options and I'm having trouble deciding which to do.
Option A
VWR Racingline sport dampers. These are aftermarket shocks that are designed to work with the lowering springs I already have. Same brand. I would keep my current ride height and have no adjustability, essentially creating a cup kit meant to work together, except I already have the springs.
They are a great price, well-reviewed, and I'm confident the ride quality would be good.
This is the safe route.
Option B
ST X Coilovers. After a lot of research, I settled on these as a coilover option because they have decent height adjustability for the price point, and they are made in Germany by KW Automotive (ST X is the galvinized equivalent of KW-V1's, which by all accounts ride well according to the internet). They are well-reviewed on the Mk7 golf platform and ride quality should be pretty good.
The purpose of going the coilover route would be to get a little more low. I know I've posted my car before but here are some current pics showing the ride height with the springs:
At some angles, especially when close to and above the car, it looks quite good in my opinion. But at other times, like when farther away from the vehicle or in profile, I'm sometimes wishing I had a little more low. And I'm talking like 10mm more.
I'm not a fan of the slammed look, but I do like a tight fitment. Not my car of course, but here's an example pic of what I'd be looking for:
Not tire tucking, but like I said earlier just a tiny bit more than what I have.
Ok, now for the downsides.
The ST X are height adjustable only, and to get that ride height (or more than I have now) I'd be on the lower end of the adjustability. Reviews have still said the ride quality is good all the way down, but that's subjective.
The ST X have galvinized shock bodies, and I'm somewhat worried about rust in our harsh winter climate where road salts are routinely used. I've found videos like this one, and other accounts on forums of people running them for 2, 3, even 5 seasons in places like Canada that see real winters, with very little corrosion. An ST suspensions rep I contacted said they would realistically be fine if preventative maintenance was done... washing and coating with T-9 Boeshield every 3-5 months was their recommendation. I've also read many swear by marine grease, coilover covers, even Saran-wrapping or duct taping the threads.
So I'm pretty sure I could get 5+ years out of them with some maintenance.
However... do I want to worry about it and add those steps to the maintenance routine? I don't love the sound of that.
I'm not sure if I would need to height adjust them each spring/fall or not. 10mm extra doesn't sound like much. But with the ice dams in our alley this year I was scraping the underside of my car to get out for about 3 months straight. More low wouldn't help that. And the pot holes are terrible. I would rather set-it-and-forget-it at the lower height, otherwise that's yet another task to stay on top of twice a year.
Lastly, while I can afford them, they are significantly more money than the VWR dampers ($1200 vs $550). I've always been curious about coilovers, and for summer I wouldn't mind making my car stand out a bit more as "modified", as right now it's very OEM+. But I'm not sure the extra look is worth it.
I feel like I know the correct answer, but thought I would throw it to the GJ forum in case I'm overlooking something.
Things would be simpler if I lived in Southern California!
Things would be simpler if I lived in Southern California!
Think of how much more space you'd have without snowblower, snowshovels and winter tires! LOL
Not going to be any help on the question at hand...but couldn't resist
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Finallygotit
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My $0.02 - Option A
I vote option A. Your a busy man and have a family you take care of. Adding preventive maintenance chores to yourself and something else for you to worry over. Option A seems a more sensible route even though Option B seems like it might have more options. Just my .02.
Having said that I am currently working out a plan to take out a Hot Rod motor I built 20 years ago that replaced a stock 350. Now I am going back to the stock 350 to lessen the hassle and just be able to drive my old car and use pump gas in it and enjoy it for daily driving and cruising.
I agree with you on some of your points. My Camaro has too much gap above the tires and would look so much better if I lowered it 1.5" with the Eibach springs they make for it. But I can't get out of my driveway right now without scrapping the front air dam. So it stays stock.
Bret
Having said that I am currently working out a plan to take out a Hot Rod motor I built 20 years ago that replaced a stock 350. Now I am going back to the stock 350 to lessen the hassle and just be able to drive my old car and use pump gas in it and enjoy it for daily driving and cruising.
I agree with you on some of your points. My Camaro has too much gap above the tires and would look so much better if I lowered it 1.5" with the Eibach springs they make for it. But I can't get out of my driveway right now without scrapping the front air dam. So it stays stock.
Bret
fourmotioneer
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I’ll give you permission to not worry about the corrosion on the galvanized coilovers, while acknowledging that you’ve ascribed a price of $120/mm to your suspension height. I’m at like $500/hp added to my Alfa so that seems reasonable lol.
I don’t really care about clean cars but I’ve tried Fluid Film and used engine oil as a winter coating for my suspension components on the new cars; it’s decent in Michigan! Any specialty coating recommended by the supplier and an extra 20 minutes per corner when swapping the summer wheels on is probably worth the discount over stainless.
In my opinion, it’s sometimes beneficial to avoid the temptation to hit every problem with the biggest hammer. See how bad the galvanized parts really are for yourself. It’s not like you’re messing around with a water heater or roofing. It’s just your ability to lower or raise your car.
That $650 premium for the coilovers does save you 30-60 minutes per corner on installation time since you won’t be disassembling the assemblies, as you know. I’m not against the work, but an easy installation is worth something when it’s not a passion project
I don’t really care about clean cars but I’ve tried Fluid Film and used engine oil as a winter coating for my suspension components on the new cars; it’s decent in Michigan! Any specialty coating recommended by the supplier and an extra 20 minutes per corner when swapping the summer wheels on is probably worth the discount over stainless.
In my opinion, it’s sometimes beneficial to avoid the temptation to hit every problem with the biggest hammer. See how bad the galvanized parts really are for yourself. It’s not like you’re messing around with a water heater or roofing. It’s just your ability to lower or raise your car.
That $650 premium for the coilovers does save you 30-60 minutes per corner on installation time since you won’t be disassembling the assemblies, as you know. I’m not against the work, but an easy installation is worth something when it’s not a passion project
Bob Heine
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Nick, I can't remember if you are the sole driver of the car. I'm pretty good about stopping short of the tire curbs in the parking lots but my partner is not.
The Eibach springs on the PT Cruiser lowered the chin spoiler a half inch below those curbs. It also lowered the bumper cover enough to scrape on the entrance ramp at our dentist's office. The first bumper cover lasted two years and I got 11 years out of the second but I got real good at pop-riveting it bed back together. Eventually the cover was too badly beaten up to ignore so I pulled the spare out of the attic and painted it (Turbo models have a different cover that was getting hard to find). Before doing the paint job I disassembled the front struts and added a second rubber spacer. The cover now clears the curbs by at least a quarter inch. Here's the obligatory before/after shot.
The Eibach springs on the PT Cruiser lowered the chin spoiler a half inch below those curbs. It also lowered the bumper cover enough to scrape on the entrance ramp at our dentist's office. The first bumper cover lasted two years and I got 11 years out of the second but I got real good at pop-riveting it bed back together. Eventually the cover was too badly beaten up to ignore so I pulled the spare out of the attic and painted it (Turbo models have a different cover that was getting hard to find). Before doing the paint job I disassembled the front struts and added a second rubber spacer. The cover now clears the curbs by at least a quarter inch. Here's the obligatory before/after shot.
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trytochaseme
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Ive gotten alot of miles on coilovers over the years. If you want to priotize comfort then you would probably be better off with the VWR setup. You can get a good ride with coilovers but you need to pony up for the higher end setups. Not saying coilovers wont ride well but they definitely stiffen up things, the car will handle fantastic! But you will sacrifice comfort. Ive been running BC coilovers for a few years and really like them. Have some trackdays on them as well but with how the roads are in michigan I sometimes do ponder swapping them out. It is really nice to have the adjustibilty, I have raised and lowered for different wheel setups or seasons before. This was my mk7 when I was running some BBS CK's. I had no rubbing at all at this height.
I like lowering springs and a good shock/strut to match. Only had one car with adjustable coilovers and while it did well I didnt have it very low at all due to living at my parents house and their gravel
drive at the time. I hate scraping and rubbing, and have been able to build multiple setups that got me low enough to get the look without sacrificing ride or comfort.
drive at the time. I hate scraping and rubbing, and have been able to build multiple setups that got me low enough to get the look without sacrificing ride or comfort.
sawduststeve
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Hi Nick, straight after I bought my T6 I put on 20’s and went to see Steve at CRSperformance
for adjustable coil overs and dropped it 60mm.
Wheels fill the arches better.
Drives way better. It was technically a van to start though and I think I had more height to play with than you.
Steve
for adjustable coil overs and dropped it 60mm.
Wheels fill the arches better.
Drives way better. It was technically a van to start though and I think I had more height to play with than you.
Steve
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While I probably already know the answer, I'm going to float the idea anyway... have you considered adding a minivan to the fleet that could serve as your winter beater, road trip vehicle for your growing family, and material hauler for your woodworking and house projects? This would allow you to make mods to the GTI without having to worry about the practicality constraints of needing it to serve as a daily driver.
OP
nicholam77
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Thanks for the replies everyone, I've been reading them, just haven't had the chance to respond until this morning.
Lol seriously!! There are tradeoffs anywhere one chooses to live, but let's just say I'd be perfectly happy if it was warm all year round.
Thanks, Dan. I'm leaning towards this.
This is true. I could handle the extra maintenance, but I don't really want to. I'm not one to flip cars, I've had this one for 7 yrs and am planning on keeping it for another 7 haha. I guess I'm at a point where I'm trying to refresh my interest in it, though, with the tune and some (hopefully tasteful) cosmetic changes. But at the end of the day you're right, it's a daily driver, needs to be reliable and semi-practical. I agree there is something to be said for less hassle. I'm surprised your Camaro scrapes at stock height, you must have a steep drive!
LOL on the $120/mm!! Well when you put it that way...
With taxes and shipping everything factored in, it's more like $80/mm . It's not as much the price as the value that bothers me, which is what you're getting at.
After doing a lot of reading I've come to the same conclusion about the galvanized bodies, I think there's adequate ways to protect them well enough. I currently use Fluid Film on my suspension and pinch welds before winter. Not sure it's the best thing out there but there are plenty of solutions like that.
The installation bit you pointed out I forgot to mention — I do think that's valid and I'm really not looking forward to the install. Skipping the spring compressors would be great, and not cannibalizing the existing setup (which I could save for later or in case of emergency).
I'm essentially the sole driver. My wife can drive stick and has driven it a handful of times, but not for some time. I think she doesn't like it as much. Wow, you have the PT Cruiser on springs? Sweet! Nice job on the bumper. My current springs were a 30-35mm (1.2 - 1.4") drop from stock height. I think I'm on the 1.4" end of that. But I never scrape. I wouldn't clear one of those parking curbs, but drive ways, speed bumps, etc are all fine. I just measured and in the front my ground clearance is 5.5", on the sides more like 5", and in the middle the exhaust muffler hangs down a bit and is probably 4" or less.
Thanks for coming through with a real world Mk7 example
Your car looks great. And a two-door
. Also loving the CK's, I assume they are 19's?
That sort of fitment looks great. I think in my head that's what I want (maybe a little less aggressive). As mentioned in other replies I'm leaning towards keeping the VWR setup. If I was in a warm climate with decent roads I think I'd go for it, I'm just not sure it's smart given everything we deal with here in MN.
Out of curiosity which BC Racing coils do you have?
If I did do the coilovers I'd definitely be going lower than the springs. That said like a lot have suggested, I'm leaning towards keeping the springs.
Flippin' awesome Steve! I would hope you have more wheel gap to work with than a GTI. My current drop is 35mm and I can fit one finger comfortably between the tire and fender, if that gives you an idea.
I have absolutely considered that! Well, not a minivan specifically, but a winter vehicle. I don't have anything against minivans whatsoever, I think they serve their purpose fantastically, but I'd probably go for a crossover. The reasons I've shied away from that approach, are.
1/ garage space, in my 18x20 I can't park a large vehicle, a truck is certainly too big and even something like a mini van might be a tight fit
2/ no storage for a 3rd car, I want the car I'm driving in the winter to be in the garage, street parking isn't a good option so the GTI would have to go into a storage facility somewhere
3/ If I was going to make the GTI a summer project car, I'm not sure the GTI is the car for that... I'd maybe look at more of a true sports car or something older
4/ summer is too short and life's too short to drive boring cars, the GTI sees very little miles as is, and I think it would be a shame to drive it even less
I do see this in the picture one day though. Once the kids are out of car seats. I could see getting a more practical car for daily driving, and more of a true sports car / Sunday driver / project car that doesn't see winters. Grail would be a 911 but that's a pipe dream for now.
Lol seriously!! There are tradeoffs anywhere one chooses to live, but let's just say I'd be perfectly happy if it was warm all year round.
Thanks, Dan. I'm leaning towards this.
This is true. I could handle the extra maintenance, but I don't really want to. I'm not one to flip cars, I've had this one for 7 yrs and am planning on keeping it for another 7 haha. I guess I'm at a point where I'm trying to refresh my interest in it, though, with the tune and some (hopefully tasteful) cosmetic changes. But at the end of the day you're right, it's a daily driver, needs to be reliable and semi-practical. I agree there is something to be said for less hassle. I'm surprised your Camaro scrapes at stock height, you must have a steep drive!
LOL on the $120/mm!! Well when you put it that way...
With taxes and shipping everything factored in, it's more like $80/mm
. It's not as much the price as the value that bothers me, which is what you're getting at.After doing a lot of reading I've come to the same conclusion about the galvanized bodies, I think there's adequate ways to protect them well enough. I currently use Fluid Film on my suspension and pinch welds before winter. Not sure it's the best thing out there but there are plenty of solutions like that.
The installation bit you pointed out I forgot to mention — I do think that's valid and I'm really not looking forward to the install. Skipping the spring compressors would be great, and not cannibalizing the existing setup (which I could save for later or in case of emergency).
I'm essentially the sole driver. My wife can drive stick and has driven it a handful of times, but not for some time. I think she doesn't like it as much. Wow, you have the PT Cruiser on springs? Sweet! Nice job on the bumper. My current springs were a 30-35mm (1.2 - 1.4") drop from stock height. I think I'm on the 1.4" end of that. But I never scrape. I wouldn't clear one of those parking curbs, but drive ways, speed bumps, etc are all fine. I just measured and in the front my ground clearance is 5.5", on the sides more like 5", and in the middle the exhaust muffler hangs down a bit and is probably 4" or less.
Ive gotten alot of miles on coilovers over the years. If you want to priotize comfort then you would probably be better off with the VWR setup. You can get a good ride with coilovers but you need to pony up for the higher end setups. Not saying coilovers wont ride well but they definitely stiffen up things, the car will handle fantastic! But you will sacrifice comfort. Ive been running BC coilovers for a few years and really like them. Have some trackdays on them as well but with how the roads are in michigan I sometimes do ponder swapping them out. It is really nice to have the adjustibilty, I have raised and lowered for different wheel setups or seasons before. This was my mk7 when I was running some BBS CK's. I had no rubbing at all at this height.
Thanks for coming through with a real world Mk7 example
Your car looks great. And a two-door
. Also loving the CK's, I assume they are 19's?That sort of fitment looks great. I think in my head that's what I want (maybe a little less aggressive). As mentioned in other replies I'm leaning towards keeping the VWR setup. If I was in a warm climate with decent roads I think I'd go for it, I'm just not sure it's smart given everything we deal with here in MN.
Out of curiosity which BC Racing coils do you have?
If I did do the coilovers I'd definitely be going lower than the springs. That said like a lot have suggested, I'm leaning towards keeping the springs.
Hi Nick, straight after I bought my T6 I put on 20’s and went to see Steve at CRSperformance
for adjustable coil overs and dropped it 60mm.
Wheels fill the arches better.
Drives way better. It was technically a van to start though and I think I had more height to play with than you.
Steve
Flippin' awesome Steve! I would hope you have more wheel gap to work with than a GTI
. My current drop is 35mm and I can fit one finger comfortably between the tire and fender, if that gives you an idea.I have absolutely considered that! Well, not a minivan specifically, but a winter vehicle. I don't have anything against minivans whatsoever, I think they serve their purpose fantastically, but I'd probably go for a crossover. The reasons I've shied away from that approach, are.
1/ garage space, in my 18x20 I can't park a large vehicle, a truck is certainly too big and even something like a mini van might be a tight fit
2/ no storage for a 3rd car, I want the car I'm driving in the winter to be in the garage, street parking isn't a good option so the GTI would have to go into a storage facility somewhere
3/ If I was going to make the GTI a summer project car, I'm not sure the GTI is the car for that... I'd maybe look at more of a true sports car or something older
4/ summer is too short and life's too short to drive boring cars, the GTI sees very little miles as is, and I think it would be a shame to drive it even less
I do see this in the picture one day though. Once the kids are out of car seats. I could see getting a more practical car for daily driving, and more of a true sports car / Sunday driver / project car that doesn't see winters. Grail would be a 911 but that's a pipe dream for now.
Trapps
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You're a smart guy and already know the correct answer. Here's my persuasive effort:
It is your DD.
You live in MN where salt and crappy roads are most likely similar to MI, abundant.
Ride compliance is important, adjustability less so (you're not tracking it - yet).
Your car looks great at its current height.
Ergo, option A seems to be the logical choice.
Go for it and don't look back. Put the savings into another item for the car. Some options might include adhesive fender vents, roll call decals, chromed LED tail lights or a 4.5" exhaust...better yet, start that 911 kitty; you'll need some time to save up as those prices do not seem to be softening.
It is your DD.
You live in MN where salt and crappy roads are most likely similar to MI, abundant.
Ride compliance is important, adjustability less so (you're not tracking it - yet).
Your car looks great at its current height.
Ergo, option A seems to be the logical choice.
Go for it and don't look back. Put the savings into another item for the car. Some options might include adhesive fender vents, roll call decals, chromed LED tail lights or a 4.5" exhaust...better yet, start that 911 kitty; you'll need some time to save up as those prices do not seem to be softening.
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nicholam77
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Thanks, Mark. I think I did already know what I should do, and I agree with everything you said. I generally make the logical, or safe, or economical choice (i.e. trying to hack a million ways to route Dominos instead of just buying a Domino
), but I think my plan to do the suspension work DIY was factoring in... as in if I go to all that effort to end up in the same place, maybe it would be an opportunity to do something spicier instead.But this car will never be tracked, and I agree that comfort and practicality supersedes the aesthetics.
I need to make a full list of bolts and mounts/bushings, but I think I will order the VWR dampers soon and be done with it!
I've had my eye on a handful of upgrades for years. A subtle front lip. OEM Mk7.5 Euro Tails. OEM 8" infotainment display. Plenty of ways to lighten my wallet if needed.
911 prices are only going to go up. Especially when we live in an EV future soon
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nicholam77
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GTI Spoiler Extension Take Two
I was surprised to see pop up ad banners on GJ today on desktop and mobile. It was so nice to have an ad-free space on the internet while it lasted, and I hope it doesn't mean GJ is in trouble.
I have a string of updates to catch up on. But to stick with the car for a minute and not jump around too much, I'll start with the spoiler extension. I got the replacement part exchange free of charge. Took a couple of hours on hold and calling them 4 times but in the end they took care of me and it was worth it.
Good news is since this is my third time taking things apart, it went much faster.
It was a bit chilly so I applied the extension to the OEM spoiler inside the house.
I'm still loving the Bora Centipede, it's so fast and convenient for stuff like this.
You might notice half my desk and a chunk of carpet is missing. That's because a month ago (end of March), I stepped on the carpet near my desk and it squished and soaked my sock. I had two identical workstations on that back wall, my home computer and my work computer. I disassembled my whole work desk and found mold on the carpet, carpet soaked in the corner, and the bottom of the IKEA cabinet the desk top was sitting on was all disintegrated and moldy.
So I cut the carpet out and ran a dehumidifier.
It was leaking right in the corner and the baseboard was ruined.
There is an egress window near that location, but my guess is it was just coming in the foundation wall, dripping down to the sill plate and out the bottom. None of the drywall or anything seamed wet.
I go outside (keep in mind there is still a ton of snow and ice at this point), and I see the downspout extension in that corner of the house is about 5' away from the downspout, trapped in a mound of solid ice. I shoveled as much snow away from that area as possible, but a lot was frozen. My guess is during our big melt this spring all of the snow from the upper roof was emptying right in that corner with no good drainage.
I'm getting off track here, but anyways, I moved my work computer to the other side, and my home computer is headless for the moment.
We were planning a basement remodel eventually, but this is going to expedite things, and it happened right before kitchen counters. Wasn't really trying to do everything at once but that's how it goes.
So back to the spoiler extension, it 3M tapes on with some accelerator and also bolts through the OEM part. I had to widen the holes I drilled from last time to get it to line up. Not hard, but kind of a tedious install.
Back on the car maybe you can see where the spoiler extension fits around the existing support "fins". It's a very tight fit, and I didn't get it quite as perfect as last time, but it did work out.
The spoiler extension and the existing fins are both gloss black, so it has a very fluid and OEM appearance.
I have some scuffing and damage on the edges of the fins. I'm wondering if that was from the heat gun I used to break the glue holding the fins to the OEM spoiler part. Not thrilled but it's not very noticeable in real life. This is why I'm a bit nervous to do the suspension, every time I do a car install something goes a little bit wrong.
I am really happy with the way it looks, though. It's hard to take pictures of because it's so thin and subtle.
I like how it follows the curve of the OEM spoiler and looks like it could be stock. Just enough of a pop if you catch it at the right angle.
Next up will be the bed refinishing.
I was surprised to see pop up ad banners on GJ today on desktop and mobile. It was so nice to have an ad-free space on the internet while it lasted, and I hope it doesn't mean GJ is in trouble.
I have a string of updates to catch up on. But to stick with the car for a minute and not jump around too much, I'll start with the spoiler extension. I got the replacement part exchange free of charge. Took a couple of hours on hold and calling them 4 times but in the end they took care of me and it was worth it.
Good news is since this is my third time taking things apart, it went much faster.
It was a bit chilly so I applied the extension to the OEM spoiler inside the house.
I'm still loving the Bora Centipede, it's so fast and convenient for stuff like this.
You might notice half my desk and a chunk of carpet is missing. That's because a month ago (end of March), I stepped on the carpet near my desk and it squished and soaked my sock. I had two identical workstations on that back wall, my home computer and my work computer. I disassembled my whole work desk and found mold on the carpet, carpet soaked in the corner, and the bottom of the IKEA cabinet the desk top was sitting on was all disintegrated and moldy.
So I cut the carpet out and ran a dehumidifier.
It was leaking right in the corner and the baseboard was ruined.
There is an egress window near that location, but my guess is it was just coming in the foundation wall, dripping down to the sill plate and out the bottom. None of the drywall or anything seamed wet.
I go outside (keep in mind there is still a ton of snow and ice at this point), and I see the downspout extension in that corner of the house is about 5' away from the downspout, trapped in a mound of solid ice. I shoveled as much snow away from that area as possible, but a lot was frozen. My guess is during our big melt this spring all of the snow from the upper roof was emptying right in that corner with no good drainage.
I'm getting off track here, but anyways, I moved my work computer to the other side, and my home computer is headless for the moment.
We were planning a basement remodel eventually, but this is going to expedite things, and it happened right before kitchen counters.
Wasn't really trying to do everything at once but that's how it goes.So back to the spoiler extension, it 3M tapes on with some accelerator and also bolts through the OEM part. I had to widen the holes I drilled from last time to get it to line up. Not hard, but kind of a tedious install.
Back on the car maybe you can see where the spoiler extension fits around the existing support "fins". It's a very tight fit, and I didn't get it quite as perfect as last time, but it did work out.
The spoiler extension and the existing fins are both gloss black, so it has a very fluid and OEM appearance.
I have some scuffing and damage on the edges of the fins. I'm wondering if that was from the heat gun I used to break the glue holding the fins to the OEM spoiler part. Not thrilled but it's not very noticeable in real life. This is why I'm a bit nervous to do the suspension, every time I do a car install something goes a little bit wrong.
I am really happy with the way it looks, though. It's hard to take pictures of because it's so thin and subtle.
I like how it follows the curve of the OEM spoiler and looks like it could be stock. Just enough of a pop if you catch it at the right angle.
Next up will be the bed refinishing.
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nicholam77
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Finishing The Bed
While everything else has been going on (work, basement leak, car stuff, vacation, kitchen), I've been continuing to sand the bed when I have time. It was more work than I thought it would be, so I'm just doing the one for now.
My MFT workbench was a great helping hand. I have almost zero regrets with this workbench, it can do almost anything I need.
I tried an oscillating tool for the spindles but it wasn't working that well. In the end I used the orbital sander and just rocked it back and forth, finishing up with some hand sanding.
A time consuming process to say the least.
I got all the old finish off, but some areas of the wood still had some discoloration.
I don't mind too much and finish will help hide it a little I think.
Finally done sanding! Behind you can see the 2nd set of headboards with original, more orange-y finish.
Again using the Centipede to finish indoors. Basement is a mess right now, please ignore. Sticking with General Finishes High Performance Water-Based Poly for this. 3 Coats.
When finished, we set the bed up and reconfigured my daughter's room a bit while she was at daycare, to surprise her when she got home.
She was surprised and ecstatic (new set of Frozen sheets helped, too!). She knew I had been working on it, and I had shown her progress along the way. She thanked me a bunch for spending time on it which was really sweet.
I think it was worth it. It's a quality bed. Even the slats are 3/4" thick maple. Hard to buy nice stuff like that anymore.
Hopefully it will last another 20-30 years.
While everything else has been going on (work, basement leak, car stuff, vacation, kitchen), I've been continuing to sand the bed when I have time. It was more work than I thought it would be, so I'm just doing the one for now.
My MFT workbench was a great helping hand. I have almost zero regrets with this workbench, it can do almost anything I need.
I tried an oscillating tool for the spindles but it wasn't working that well. In the end I used the orbital sander and just rocked it back and forth, finishing up with some hand sanding.
A time consuming process to say the least.
I got all the old finish off, but some areas of the wood still had some discoloration.
I don't mind too much and finish will help hide it a little I think.
Finally done sanding! Behind you can see the 2nd set of headboards with original, more orange-y finish.
Again using the Centipede to finish indoors. Basement is a mess right now, please ignore. Sticking with General Finishes High Performance Water-Based Poly for this. 3 Coats.
When finished, we set the bed up and reconfigured my daughter's room a bit while she was at daycare, to surprise her when she got home.
She was surprised and ecstatic (new set of Frozen sheets helped, too!). She knew I had been working on it, and I had shown her progress along the way. She thanked me a bunch for spending time on it which was really sweet.
I think it was worth it. It's a quality bed. Even the slats are 3/4" thick maple. Hard to buy nice stuff like that anymore.
Hopefully it will last another 20-30 years.
isonic
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The bed turned out really well. My daughter is about to graduate into a twin bed as well. I actually have the headboard and frame sitting in my garage from my childhood!
Sorry about the basement troubles. It has been a wet spring to say the least. I have one egress window well that is constantly filling up with groundwater. For now I am manually emptying with buckets until a permanent drain can be installed. Hopefully your damage isn't too extensive.
Sorry about the basement troubles. It has been a wet spring to say the least. I have one egress window well that is constantly filling up with groundwater. For now I am manually emptying with buckets until a permanent drain can be installed. Hopefully your damage isn't too extensive.
Outstanding work on the bed! Smiles are priceless and the whole room looks great!
Sorry to hear about the soggy-ness but hopefully your source was found. Downspouts and drainage are a pain for sure...but obviously important. Reminds me I think I have a downspout plugged I need to work on tomorrow...
Sorry to hear about the soggy-ness but hopefully your source was found. Downspouts and drainage are a pain for sure...but obviously important. Reminds me I think I have a downspout plugged I need to work on tomorrow...
slodat
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Great work on the bed!!
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nicholam77
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Thank you! Hopefully your bed doesn’t need a full sanding… not fun
. That’s great, though, I’m a fan of reusing things when possible. I’m sure she’ll love it. Yeah, any sort of water trouble is awful. I don’t think my damage is too bad besides the carpet and baseboard.
Thanks, Logan! Her reaction definitely made it worth the effort.
For the leak, I’m pretty sure it was the combination of melt season and no downspout attached. First time it’s happened to my knowledge, but we did have an incredible amount of snow this winter. This summer I’m going to try to improve the grading in that corner.
I’m not too mad about the carpet, because it was going to go eventually. Just wasn’t ready for another huge project. Probably going to live with it torn up for a bit.
Thanks!!
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nicholam77
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Another small maintenance item for the GTI ticked off: the cabin air filter.
I've done all the maintenance on this car since new. The dealer or an independent shop have literally not touched it for any routine maintenance. Which to be fair has just consisted of oil changes and tire rotations so far.
All this to say I've been a bit neglectful with the cabin filter... and feel guilty to admit this is the first time it's been changed. Since 2016.
VW recommends every 20k miles and I'm about to hit 40k.
I should have done it sooner, it was ridiculously easy. Like, it took all of 3 minutes. I didn't even have to break out a Torx driver!
Upon loosening the clips, the glove box fell to the floor and dumped out all my stuff haha.
Old filter vs new:
I found it interesting that the back of the glovebox, and the outside of the filter cover plate, have the Mk7 honeycomb pattern:
The OEM floor mats and grille have it, too. I find it odd and almost an easter egg that they would mould it like that in two places you never see. VW is... interesting sometimes.
Anyways, one less task to pop into my brain in the middle of the night when I'm trying to sleep.
I've done all the maintenance on this car since new. The dealer or an independent shop have literally not touched it for any routine maintenance. Which to be fair has just consisted of oil changes and tire rotations so far.
All this to say I've been a bit neglectful with the cabin filter... and feel guilty to admit this is the first time it's been changed. Since 2016.
VW recommends every 20k miles and I'm about to hit 40k.
I should have done it sooner, it was ridiculously easy. Like, it took all of 3 minutes. I didn't even have to break out a Torx driver!
Upon loosening the clips, the glove box fell to the floor and dumped out all my stuff haha.
Old filter vs new:
I found it interesting that the back of the glovebox, and the outside of the filter cover plate, have the Mk7 honeycomb pattern:
The OEM floor mats and grille have it, too. I find it odd and almost an easter egg that they would mould it like that in two places you never see. VW is... interesting sometimes.
Anyways, one less task to pop into my brain in the middle of the night when I'm trying to sleep.
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nicholam77
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Spring Cleaning
If you've been following along here long enough, you'll recognize my original MFT cart with the Paulk top:
Here's a throwback to when I first made it (still had the miter station and tire rack!!)
It helped me make a lot of things, and I even rigged up whatever the heck this thing is to use it with the table saw:
Fast forward to today, and my current MFT workbench supersedes it in every way. I do use the old cart to shuffle heavy materials around, but that's it. My rationale for keeping it has always been having a mobile, 2nd surface, to place stuff while I'm building.
But now I have the Bora Centipede, which is smaller to store, faster to set up, and has a larger work surface.
So, partly inspired by @loganb selling off or deconstructing various pieces to make more space and efficiency, I'm giving the OG MFT the axe.
At least for now I'm hoping to use the space it's tucked in to store some of these vacuums, and then maybe I'll actually be able to walk in front of my car when it's parked. And hopefully clear some of this stuff off while I'm at it:
Starting with the stand.
As a track saw nut, it feels like blasphemy to use the skilsaw, but there's a time and a place. This thing has the power and depth of cut needed.
I'll be salvaging a few sections of these squared off 2x4's.
The actual MDF top was a bit of a pain because I used glue and about a million brads. But I ended up saving a section of the holey top, too, maybe for a future MFT accessory:
Always nice to get some pocket screws back.
Damn, this turned out to be more effort than I thought. I had to pluck the brads or bend them over and chop up various pieces into small bits to dispose of.
In the end I made some good progress. I moved the oscillating spindle sander under the table saw, and moved the Systainers that were there onto the red bench.
Shop vac and separator in the cubby. I would really love to get the compressor in the rafters and find a better spot for the Festool vac.
Gave the red bench top a clean — it hasn't been this empty in a long time.
As much as I'd like to give myself a pat on the back, there's still a lot of scraps and work to be done.
But it's a marathon not a sprint, as they say.
In any case it felt good to get out there and accomplish some cleaning. Thanks for tuning in.
If you've been following along here long enough, you'll recognize my original MFT cart with the Paulk top:
Here's a throwback to when I first made it (still had the miter station and tire rack!!)
It helped me make a lot of things, and I even rigged up whatever the heck this thing is to use it with the table saw:
Fast forward to today, and my current MFT workbench supersedes it in every way. I do use the old cart to shuffle heavy materials around, but that's it. My rationale for keeping it has always been having a mobile, 2nd surface, to place stuff while I'm building.
But now I have the Bora Centipede, which is smaller to store, faster to set up, and has a larger work surface.
So, partly inspired by @loganb selling off or deconstructing various pieces to make more space and efficiency, I'm giving the OG MFT the axe.
At least for now I'm hoping to use the space it's tucked in to store some of these vacuums, and then maybe I'll actually be able to walk in front of my car when it's parked. And hopefully clear some of this stuff off while I'm at it:
Starting with the stand.
As a track saw nut, it feels like blasphemy to use the skilsaw, but there's a time and a place. This thing has the power and depth of cut needed.
I'll be salvaging a few sections of these squared off 2x4's.
The actual MDF top was a bit of a pain because I used glue and about a million brads. But I ended up saving a section of the holey top, too, maybe for a future MFT accessory:
Always nice to get some pocket screws back.
Damn, this turned out to be more effort than I thought. I had to pluck the brads or bend them over and chop up various pieces into small bits to dispose of.
In the end I made some good progress. I moved the oscillating spindle sander under the table saw, and moved the Systainers that were there onto the red bench.
Shop vac and separator in the cubby. I would really love to get the compressor in the rafters and find a better spot for the Festool vac.
Gave the red bench top a clean — it hasn't been this empty in a long time.
As much as I'd like to give myself a pat on the back, there's still a lot of scraps and work to be done.
But it's a marathon not a sprint, as they say.
In any case it felt good to get out there and accomplish some cleaning. Thanks for tuning in.
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nicholam77
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isonic
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Nice job on the cleanup. It was a great weekend to be outside working!
Nicely done on space and pocket screw reclamation!
Curious your take on your California Air Tool compressor? I'm likely downsizing from my 27-ish gal vertical style compressor and looking at the CAT or the Harbor Freight knockoff "Fortress" 10 gal horizontal ultra quiet. It doesn't see much use....some nail gun work, occasional impact tool....blowoff usage here or there and basically be an even money trade by the time I sell the big one and buy the replacement assuming at new price. Biggest downside to downgrading compressor is I can currently blow out my sprinklers(albeit slowly) with my current compressor every fall myself vs pay someone else 75 or 100 bucks which is the only reason I haven't done the trade already
Other driver for me is the kids don't like it when the current one cycles on, so something quieter that doesn't disturb them if they're out is a plus. I have on the "to do" list to plumb in a couple of lines and get some hose reels I have into usage....so that would likely increase my usage since it'd be easy so that increases the importance of it being quieter.
Curious your take on your California Air Tool compressor? I'm likely downsizing from my 27-ish gal vertical style compressor and looking at the CAT or the Harbor Freight knockoff "Fortress" 10 gal horizontal ultra quiet. It doesn't see much use....some nail gun work, occasional impact tool....blowoff usage here or there and basically be an even money trade by the time I sell the big one and buy the replacement assuming at new price. Biggest downside to downgrading compressor is I can currently blow out my sprinklers(albeit slowly) with my current compressor every fall myself vs pay someone else 75 or 100 bucks which is the only reason I haven't done the trade already
Other driver for me is the kids don't like it when the current one cycles on, so something quieter that doesn't disturb them if they're out is a plus. I have on the "to do" list to plumb in a couple of lines and get some hose reels I have into usage....so that would likely increase my usage since it'd be easy so that increases the importance of it being quieter.
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nicholam77
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It certainly was! So happy it's finally warming up.
Thanks... it's a start anyways!
I love the California Air Tools compressor. It's so quiet. Mine's a 2 Gallon and I only use it to run light duty nail guns, fill tires, and blow dust off stuff. Have used it inside the house many times, no complaints from the wife or kids. No ear protection needed. The nail guns firing are louder than the compressor motor. My brother-in-law got one to replace is Bosch pancake compressor immediately after hearing it.
I don't think mine could power an impact tool, but they probably make higher CFM models. If it meets your specs, can't go wrong in my opinion!
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nicholam77
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Got a few small things done today.
First was clean the car floormats from winter and switch the WeatherTechs out for the OEM GTI Monster Mats.
I'm happy I invested in the WeatherTechs, they did a much better job of containing all the snow and filth.
A little before & after:
And I scrubbed the aluminum pedal covers. I've always thought this is a nice feature the GTI gets... even the Audi A3 doesn't get the aluminum, despite being at a higher price point.
I did a basic vacuum as well. Lot's of Cheerios in the back seats. The car majorly needs a full interior and exterior detail, but that will have to be another day.
After that I spent some time with my label maker.
In the spirit of cleaning up the Crafstman bench, I did something I should have done a long time ago: label the drawers!
It's not the prettiest thing ever, but I do forget what is in what drawer often. I guess I'm not out "in the shop" every day, and while I've made some improvements over the years, some of these drawers are catchalls and not fully organized.
The labels will at least give me an idea of where to go at a glance.
And since I had the label maker out, I thought I'd slap some labels on some of the Systainers, too. Same problem — they all look the same and I can never remember what's in them... if anything!
If you're scouring the fine print to see what's in everything, you might notice one of them says router bits. That's because I finally broke down and spend the $9 on a foam router bit insert for a Sys 1, and moved my humble collection of bits from my fold up router table:
To this:
Yes, the old place was fine, and it makes sense near the router. But inside the Systainer should be a bit more protected from humidity and I plan on throwing a desiccant pack in with them. Plus... I went on a small Systainer buying spree when the T-Loc's were going out of production, and got some good deals, so I've had a few Sys 1's sitting empty. This was an attempt to fill one up with something. It might change down the line.
Some more small updates on the way!
First was clean the car floormats from winter and switch the WeatherTechs out for the OEM GTI Monster Mats.
I'm happy I invested in the WeatherTechs, they did a much better job of containing all the snow and filth.
A little before & after:
And I scrubbed the aluminum pedal covers. I've always thought this is a nice feature the GTI gets... even the Audi A3 doesn't get the aluminum, despite being at a higher price point.
I did a basic vacuum as well. Lot's of Cheerios in the back seats. The car majorly needs a full interior and exterior detail, but that will have to be another day.
After that I spent some time with my label maker.
In the spirit of cleaning up the Crafstman bench, I did something I should have done a long time ago: label the drawers!
It's not the prettiest thing ever, but I do forget what is in what drawer often. I guess I'm not out "in the shop" every day, and while I've made some improvements over the years, some of these drawers are catchalls and not fully organized.
The labels will at least give me an idea of where to go at a glance.
And since I had the label maker out, I thought I'd slap some labels on some of the Systainers, too. Same problem — they all look the same and I can never remember what's in them... if anything!
If you're scouring the fine print to see what's in everything, you might notice one of them says router bits. That's because I finally broke down and spend the $9 on a foam router bit insert for a Sys 1, and moved my humble collection of bits from my fold up router table:
To this:
Yes, the old place was fine, and it makes sense near the router. But inside the Systainer should be a bit more protected from humidity and I plan on throwing a desiccant pack in with them. Plus... I went on a small Systainer buying spree when the T-Loc's were going out of production, and got some good deals, so I've had a few Sys 1's sitting empty. This was an attempt to fill one up with something. It might change down the line.
Some more small updates on the way!
manbike26
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Looks great! The other benefit is that anyone helping in the garage can find the tools much faster.
Less of the "Brown tool box, 3rd wide drawer from top. No, the other brown...no, to the left. YOU KNOW WHAT?! I'LL JUST GET IT FOR YOU" situations, which makes helpful people want to come back.
jar944
Well-known member
People are allowed in your garage...
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and allowed..
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allowed to touch your tools?... <shivers>
Trapps
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Organization looks good. More importantly, it feels good. I am constantly tweeking my organization. Some things find the best solution immediately, others have taken a few years and still aren't right. Yet.
I tried labels and did not like them. Then I tried numbers on the drawers, more subtle. As much for reference if I send my wife/kid to get something, I can just say which drawer number.
Weathertech make an excellent product; it is also a 'you-get-what-you-pay-for' scenario in my opinion.
I tried labels and did not like them. Then I tried numbers on the drawers, more subtle. As much for reference if I send my wife/kid to get something, I can just say which drawer number.
Weathertech make an excellent product; it is also a 'you-get-what-you-pay-for' scenario in my opinion.
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nicholam77
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Thanks! Can't say I have others in my space much, maybe my dad on occasion. But I can see that being helpful if you do!
Lol'd at this! I'm kind of the same way.
We'll see if the labels "stick"
. Easily removable so worth the try. If I'm digging it I may reprint them with reverse tape (black with white letters) to make them blend in a little better.I don't think numbers would work for me... I'd still forget what's in each number. Part of that is I need more overall organization and muscle memory. You're leagues ahead of me on that front I think.
Another problem I have with the detached, is half my non-woodworking tools are in the garage (Craftsman bench), and half are in the house (basement laundry room). Sometimes I have trouble remembering what is where when I'm looking for that specific tool.
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nicholam77
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Question for the group:
Installing the spoiler extension I discovered this paint chip on the seam of my hatch:
Appears to be down to the metal with some rust.
Any tips on how to fix it? Should I take it to a body shop / paint repair place or is there a suitable DIY fix? The bottom lip of the hatch is a problem area, it always gets really dirty and collects water. I'm worried about my hatch rusting out.
And yes, I need a car wash real bad.
Installing the spoiler extension I discovered this paint chip on the seam of my hatch:
Appears to be down to the metal with some rust.
Any tips on how to fix it? Should I take it to a body shop / paint repair place or is there a suitable DIY fix? The bottom lip of the hatch is a problem area, it always gets really dirty and collects water. I'm worried about my hatch rusting out.
And yes, I need a car wash real bad.
MadeByMiller
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Carbon doesn't rust...
Bummer about that, I'd definitely do something about it sooner than later because it's sure to spread. I can't tell, is the hatch steel or aluminum? The aluminum hatch on my Expedition (as well as hood) are notorious for corroding from the inside out, something about Ford's prep/primer I think.
Bummer about that, I'd definitely do something about it sooner than later because it's sure to spread. I can't tell, is the hatch steel or aluminum? The aluminum hatch on my Expedition (as well as hood) are notorious for corroding from the inside out, something about Ford's prep/primer I think.
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nicholam77
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Holy **** they make like every trim piece imaginable in carbon fiber!
Carbon fiber is sweet, but that's not in the budget
Yeah, I'm worried about it spreading. I don't know for sure but I would assume the hatch is steel. I'm wondering if I need it professionally fixed, or if I can just hand sand it a bit, hit it with some anti-corrosion spray, let it sit for awhile, and after it's cleaned up use a color match paint pen and clear.
If I were to take it to a body shop I don't know if they can spot-fix like that, I feel like they'd either do a similar thing to what I described DIY, or tell me the whole hatch needs to be re-sprayed since it's a metallic paint.
Trapps
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No need to paint match, go Harlequin!
My experience with body shops were I live is they only do insurance work and won't touch small stuff like that. If you can find someone who does paint and body work on the side you have a better chance. I would fix it myself though.
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nicholam77
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No need to paint match, go Harlequin!
Lol you guys are a bunch of comedians!
Then again... could be the right move. I'll give it a good solid think.
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Yeah that's what I would expect in my area, too. I don't have "a paint guy". I think I'll try to touch it up myself... any suggestions other than what I outlined? I'm not too worried about the looks since it's in an inconspicuous location, more just want to be 100% sure the rust is stopped.