nine4's projects, restorations and blunders

[MercLSU]

I'll have to see what happened with the code there when I get to my better computer later. This one has too much **** on it and it...well, never mind.

Too much? You're mistaken. There's actually not enough to make your PC run properly...ask me how I know!

 

[nine4gmc]

I actually think there is too much this time. I can shake the mouse and wait three minutes for the screen to open and type a full paragraph before the cursor moves. If it moves. Matter if fact, i shook the mouse and walked inside, got the tablet, wrote this reply and im about to post and the damn computer is still loading the web page.

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[PSYKO_Inc]

Well the fun suggestion for your computer problems involves sledgehammers, oxyfuel torches, and a pistol, if it's not incredibly old you can probably get away with just a reformat and reinstall. Great thread BTW, I read the whole thing over the last couple days. Your work is outstanding! I love how the drill press and bandsaw turned out, and you've given me some ideas on a couple projects for my own garage. Mind if I also fire off a pm to you for some upholstery advice?

 

[nine4gmc]

Go right ahead Psyko, thanks for checking out my thread!

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[Craptain]

Nine. Have you tried any clean up or optimizers on your computer? I use c-cleaner and it helps. I am sure you have virus protection but if not get avg free. Between the two my computer gets back up to speed pretty quickly. First time might take a while though.

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[NedNorton]

nine,
I made it thorough 1/2 of the thread last night and a little this morning. Killer work!

Cheers,
Chris

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks Ned, your shop thread is full of AWESOME! Anyone reading this needs to check your signature link!

Craptain, this is my junker computer, no antivirus or anything. The old computer let out some magic smoke and I got another junker from my scrap guy and put the old hard drive, ram etc in it. I was going to format it and start over but it fired right up and I've been using it for a year or so now. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's faster to walk inside and reply or I may have the tablet with me.

 

[nine4gmc]

Here's a good blunder. I made the center pulley setup for the Atlas that Merc is getting, then made one for my Craftsman 100 exactly like it. Well, his fit perfect, mine on the other hand needed a few thousandths taken off and a groove cut in the bottom to fit in my pole. I already had it completely assembled when I figured that out... I work the bearings back out and got it apart, trimmed and cut then had to hand file the inner weld seam on my press and it's still a tight fit.

All that could have been avoided had I made mine from actual measurements like I did his, instead of duplicating. I could have easily made mine 1/4" shorter and cut to size on the first go. Measure twice...d'oh...

So I get the piece to fit, then I realize the front pulley will not line up, it's sitting way to low in the head. After some reading, Frank Lee's "Craftsman Drill Press" thread told me exactly what I needed to do to fix it so here I am now.

One step forward, three back.

 

[Strouty]

That is the best way to do it, it is called being thorough.........

 

[Gidge]

Love your style. Bringing things back to life. Great job!

Nines, you have a great talent for "resto" work.

Love the Lyons stuff, I have some myself --tough as nails.

Keep up the good work of preserving the good old stuff for future generations --we're just the custodian of this stuff as good old made in USA products are meant to last.

 

[atch]

Here's a good blunder. I made the center pulley setup for the Atlas that Merc is getting, then made one for my Craftsman 100 exactly like it. Well, his fit perfect, mine on the other hand needed a few thousandths taken off and a groove cut in the bottom to fit in my pole. I already had it completely assembled when I figured that out... I work the bearings back out and got it apart, trimmed and cut then had to hand file the inner weld seam on my press and it's still a tight fit.

All that could have been avoided had I made mine from actual measurements like I did his, instead of duplicating. I could have easily made mine 1/4" shorter and cut to size on the first go. Measure twice...d'oh...

So I get the piece to fit, then I realize the front pulley will not line up, it's sitting way to low in the head. After some reading, Frank Lee's "Craftsman Drill Press" thread told me exactly what I needed to do to fix it so here I am now.

One step forward, three back.

Folks,

I have two of these Craftsman drill presses. I don't know for sure but I believe these were made in the 50's or so. One I bought over 40 years ago and the other I've had for 20 or so years. I am lucky in that they both work great and did when I first bought them.

BUT; the point here is not what I have but to suggest to you all that you also have/get two drill presses. One ONLY gets used for drilling metal and the other ONLY gets used to drill wood. I never have oil or metal filings in my wood projects and I never have sawdust around my metal shop.

nine - sorry to interrupt. please continue.

 

[Craptain]

I agree with atch. I have 2 dp's for just that reason. Also it takes up less space than the 4 I had until recently.

 

[nine4gmc]

I actually had three up until Merc swindled me out of my Atlas in a deal neither of us could refuse(my girl calls it joint custody ). The atlas on left, Delta Rockwell for heavy duty in the back and my Craftsman 100 for everyday use. The Rockwell is in mid-restoration sorta. I got it all cleaned up, new bearings, paint etc and put it back together only to discover the PO had put a spring pin in the head casting as a motor mount pin and it got broke of in the hole. I went through several sessions of failed attempts to get it out, all documented earlier in this thread so there she sits for now. I have come to a conclusion on how to get it out but it's going to require a grinder, cut-off blade, welding machine, grinder, sander, paint and primer along with about 4hrs labor at minimum to get it back together.

 

[PSYKO_Inc]

If you can get a tap about the size of the hole in the roll pin, thread the hole, put in a machine screw, and attach a slide hammer. Might help to apply some heat from an oxyfuel torch as well.

 

[nine4gmc]

The inside of the hole is about 1/16" or so, it's tiny. I have broken several drill bits, carbide bits and welded bolts on, tried the pull hammer etc. It would be easier to name the things I did not try(which was recommended to me at an early stage and should have been done then). Just rip the side open with a cutoff wheel and drive it out, weld or braze the split and paint.

 

[PSYKO_Inc]

Wow that's a tough one. If it's nearly flush with the opening, maybe try going at the face of it with the edge of a cutoff wheel to slot the end, and use a small flat screwdriver to twist it out, then braze up any nicks in the casting when you're done. If that fails, just weld the hole shut, grind it smooth, and pretend it never existed

 

[PSYKO_Inc]

Another thing I just thought of, might not work for this but I've seen it recommended to remove pilot bushings from flywheels. Get a punch that fits in the hole without any slop, and fill in the cavity with thick grease. Put the punch in the hole, and smack the holy hell out of it with a hammer, and hydraulic pressure should push the pin out.

 

[JZiggy]

Here's a good blunder. I made the center pulley setup for the Atlas that Merc is getting, then made one for my Craftsman 100 exactly like it. Well, his fit perfect, mine on the other hand needed a few thousandths taken off and a groove cut in the bottom to fit in my pole. I already had it completely assembled when I figured that out... I work the bearings back out and got it apart, trimmed and cut then had to hand file the inner weld seam on my press and it's still a tight fit.

All that could have been avoided had I made mine from actual measurements like I did his, instead of duplicating. I could have easily made mine 1/4" shorter and cut to size on the first go. Measure twice...d'oh...

So I get the piece to fit, then I realize the front pulley will not line up, it's sitting way to low in the head. After some reading, Frank Lee's "Craftsman Drill Press" thread told me exactly what I needed to do to fix it so here I am now.

One step forward, three back.

I love how your pulley turned out. Must be the best "homemade" one I have seen here yet. It is definitely an improvement to seat ball bearings into the base vs. pressing needle bearings into the pulley like my design (although it still works well, and no lathe required )

Another cool thing about your method is that you can put whatever pulley(s) you want on the rotating shaft. If there is room you could put on 1.5" and an 8" for a mega speed reduction

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks JZiggy, that means a lot, yours are pretty nice! I actually test fit a 10" on the center pulley and it would work, I have a 1-3/4" and a few 2" pulleys too so I could definitely make it a low speed monster if needed. Thanks for stopping in!

 

[nine4gmc]

I tried the rocker arm spring trick on the Craftsman 100 table and it would not work. There is no where near the clearance on the inside as there was with the Atlas, I even tried trimming the spring down with no luck so I dug through my drawers and found a spring that will work.

I've been procrastinating on sorting dill bits I find at sales for over two years now and finally the other day I got a wild hair and started sorting. It took several hours over two days and just when I thought I was finished, I remembered there was another drawer with at least the same amount or more bits in it. Here it is the third day and I finally think I have them all sorted.
First up is the lathe table drawer, these are large bits, morse taper bits, extra long bits etc, some reamers and some of my mill bits.

That was what didn't fit in the three indexes here. I only had a few in the letter and number sizes but the fractional sizes were busting over into the lathe drawer and dill press drawer.

The drill press drawer got all the box index sets, spade bits, pointed tip bits, forstner bits hole saws, etc. Step bits are in the cordless drill cabinet.

 

[carcajou]

Stopped in for a visit nines, very impressed by your work. Nice to see you using the machines you have rebuilt.

 

[PSYKO_Inc]

That's a lot of bits! I should pick up a Drill Doctor and start buying up good HSS bits from yard/estate sales and swap meets. Everything at the usual hardware stores are all gimmicky Chinese made "titanium unobtanium pixie fart alloy" that are dull out of the box and break if you look at them funny.

 

[1/2 Cup]

I thought I had an issue in collecting drill bits nines, but yours takes the cake.

Regards

 

[GirlnAgarage]

Oh my gosh, why are you people awake at this hour?
Psyko, grab a Drill Doctor. It's an easy way to stay well supplied on ready to go bits.

Nine4, love the dp bit organization. I still need to add that to my dp stand.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Oh my gosh, why are you people awake at this hour?
Psyko, grab a Drill Doctor. It's an easy way to stay well supplied on ready to go bits.

Nine4, love the dp bit organization. I still need to add that to my dp stand.

Early evening here.

 

[GirlnAgarage]

Ahh I see now. Lol. Sure is.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Ahh I see now. Lol. Sure is.

 

[dlcwent]

That's a lot of bits! I should pick up a Drill Doctor and start buying up good HSS bits from yard/estate sales and swap meets. Everything at the usual hardware stores are all gimmicky Chinese made "titanium unobtanium pixie fart alloy" that are dull out of the box and break if you look at them funny.

I just spit my coffee all over the screen. Good one PSYKO.


Niines, looks like you got it done. Man you've got a lot of drill bits.

 

[MikeF2316]

I just spit my coffee all over the screen. Good one PSYKO.


Niines, looks like you got it done. Man you've got a lot of drill bits.

Where do I find pixie fart alloy bits? I hear they stay sharp forever.

 

[Strouty]

I think HF sells them, they would be listed as "professional grade".


Nines, you are making me want to sort my bits. May have to sit down for a "bit" this week and sort them.

 

[nine4gmc]

Strouty, this was the last thing i wanted to do was sort bits but i gotta say it is relieving that its done now and any future bits aquired can go right where they need to instead of the bucket, box or 10 other places i found all these hiding.

GirlnAgarage, do yiu use a Drill Doctor? I have the 750 I think but only messed with it a couple minutes before putting it away. Can you tell us how you like it?

Thanks for stopping in guys (and gals), y'all are awesome!

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[HotFry]

I borrowed a 750 from work and over a couple of weeks I sharpened all of my bits a few a day when I got home. I'm happy with the results just make sure you have the angle of the bit in relation to the diamond stone right or you'll be there a lllllllloooooonnnnnngggg long time.

 

[Craptain]

I have a 750 and love it. Spent a few hours with it and have enough sharp bits for a year or two.

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[jpmmilner]

I have a 750 and love it. Spent a few hours with it and have enough sharp bits for a year or two.

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I've got a drill Dr as well, and I love it. Cheap drill bits from auction/garage sale back in action in a few minutes work. Once you get the angle set and get in a rhythm, you can get through a pile of bits in short order. That said Nines: you got a lotta bits!

 

[nine4gmc]

The Drill Doctor will probably be my next big sit down event in here. I worked in a shop briefly over 20yrs ago and was tasked to sharpening bits by hand on a grinder. Took me a few tries to figure out what i was doing but once i got in to a rhythm, they came out well. Anyone havecany tips for using the Drill Dr?

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[cbacres]

Like the drill bit org. I would like to get a Huot drill box. I also have so many bits plus the the full indexes i found.
I have a drill doctor, never have used it yet, but have a good stack of bits that need sharpened, so I'll be watching this with interest.
I have so many bits, I may just leave a pile of dull bits and a brand new drill doc for my kids inherttance.

Nice job on your set up, it's relly looking good.

Enjoying your projects too.

 

[Thumper68]

I ran through my drill bits last fall and used the drill DR as I was sorting, worked well on the smaller bits but I used the bench grinder on ones larger than 3/8. just seemed to work better for me.

 

[nine4gmc]

Rain has set in and curiosity got the best of me, I'm pulling out the Drill Dr and going to give it a shot.

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[Fyrme]

I've got a DD750 and it works well. One thing I make sure to do is have a pile of 118˚ and 135˚ bits of the same dia. When I have way more 118s than 135s, I will grind some down to 135s. It takes a while, but it's nice to have options. My other advice is ear buds! Turn the shop stereo off and crank up the rock-n-roll on the ear buds. Not only does it drowned out the squeal of the DD, it helps my bad case of ADD by staying focused longer, MANY other things I'd rather do. I had to resort to taking the DD and my dull bits up to the fire station to sharpen them on my down time. I dang sure don't have time at home....

 

[nine4gmc]

Im just about fed up with it already, i have watched the videos and did everything i think is right but can not get the angles right with this thing.

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