Old logo ID markings guide

[woody 73]

Trademark for the Armstrong Manufacturing Co. (pipe and tap Dies).

Could someone identify this Armstrong tool?

Hello. Would anyone know what this tool is called and its purpose? The straight metal post measures about 15 inches. The business end (at the bottom) has three sides that are equally spaced. These say 3/4 ; 1/2 ; and 3/8 inches, respectively. Each of the three sides says: ARMSTRONG, No...

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[four.cycle]

Armstrong Mfg. Co. Bridgeport CT

Armstrong / Armstrong Mfg. Co., 385 Knowiton St., Bridgeport, CT / taps & dies, screw plates / http://toolarchives.com/node/30 /

 

[d42jeep]

I found this cool logo on a Swedish wood chisel I picked up yesterday.
-Do

 

[genog]

Stiletto lineman pliers
I need a new phone so I can take better pics.....

 

[woody 73]

A large circle with the letter E inside the Circle.

From The Eberhard MFG. Co.
The post in question:

The Eberhard MFG. CO.

This post goes out to GJ member four.cycle, because I enjoy keeping him on his toes and keeping the spirit of old iron going. I had to soak the following buggy wrench in a bath of strong chemicals for the last 24 hours just to be able to read it, good thing it is still going strong for the last...

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[woody 73]

I just found a very interesting Guide to Ford & Fordson Tools Manufacturer Marks that are found on their tools, (See page #9).

http://www.fordtoolcollector.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FORD-TOOL-TIMES-VOL-III-ISS-IIIBookScanStation-2018-02-23-02-13-27-PM.pdf

 

[d42jeep]

Here is a new one to me. Swear I've seen their name pop up somewhere on here, but google is drawing a blank. Yellow screwdriver in the first pic.

HiT, Hardware Ind. Tool Co, Phila 21

Looks like it was the Hardware Industrial Tool Company, Philadelphia, now currently a redevelopment site

Hainesport getting money from state for HITCO site

HAINESPORT — The municipality has learned that it is getting more money back from the state to use at the former Hardware Industrial Tool Co. at Creek Road and Route 38. Township Administrator Leo S…

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Couple of patent items (Design, not in DATAMP)

USD318602S - Handle grip for a hand tool - Google Patents

Which lists then as HARDWARE & INDUSTRIAL TOOL CO., INC., ONE COMMERCE DRIVE, P.O. BOX 307, DELANCO, NJ 08075-0307

One of their properties was a redevelopment site in 2014

Hainesport getting money from state for HITCO site

HAINESPORT — The municipality has learned that it is getting more money back from the state to use at the former Hardware Industrial Tool Co. at Creek Road and Route 38. Township Administrator Leo S…

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Looks like there were listed in Retailing catalogs from 1985 - 88 per google books, so just barely vintage

Oops, just turned up a patent from 1968, again not in DATAMP

Official gazette of the United States Patent Office : United States. Patent Office : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Title from caption

archive.org

Sorry for the poor pic, curved chrome, stamped on a screwdriver shaft, leaning at a angle, thru a magnifier, with my phone.

RTM was kind enough to remind me of his earlier post when I found this large Phillips driver yesterday.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks to Evaporust the HiT #4 Phillips looks almost like new.
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

Alloy-Artifacts.org has recently done an overhaul on their LOGO/TRADEMARK page.

Let's say you're looking for a logo and you're not sure of the order of the letters, but it's definitely in a circle. (Think CAT-Circle)
Just enter "circle image" in the search box, and the results will show all the logos with circles, and display the images with a link to the
"Tool Identification" section.

 

[AntiqueBen]

I have I guess what is an old valve wrench with what looks like a "Z" in a circle. Can't find this logo anywhere. I'm assuming it would stand for the drop forge company? The opening isn't a true square. Also has what looks like two overlapping X's. It's a mystery to me.

 

[d42jeep]

I wonder if S.T. Co. is related to S.T.D. Co?
-Don

 

[RTM]

I don't think so. I looked this up once, STD is for Syracuse Twist Drill, think ST was Standard Tool.

Standard Tool Co.'s Twist Drills, Reamers, Taps, Spring Cotters, Flat and Riveted Keys : Catalogue : Standard Tool Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

54 p., illus., 12.9 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks. What do you think that the STD. Co tool is? Some kind of countersink?
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

a burnishing tool for an already-countersunk hole?

 

[RTM]

Thanks. What do you think that the STD. Co tool is? Some kind of countersink?
-Don

Definitely a countersink. I have one somewhere, you remove the screw to open it up to sharpen the internal edges. Patent info somewhere too, tho easier to find. Us358731

US358731A - Hieam clark - Google Patents

 

[four.cycle]

^ excellent. very odd design, but prevents the angle of the outer surface of the countersink from being altered.

 

[terminus766]

Hi everybody
Does anyone recognize this logo? It has an H and a W or a M and an H combined in a circle.
It's on a vintage 5/8-3/4 open end wrench with no other markings.
Thanks

 

[Private Lugnutz]

McKaig-Hatch

 

[RTM]

Here is one that came up in another forum, but I found the answer elsewhere on GJ, so thought it should reside here.

Handy Andy

 

[d42jeep]

Palmer Welloct. Meadville, PA. They started out as Palmer Brothers making slip-joint water pump and utility pliers with "Welloct" (a phonetic play on words for "well-locked") as a brand name and later it became part of the name of the company. I didn't even know they made hammers. I guess they diversified.

Lugz IDed the logo on this hammer on the Garage Sale thread. I had no idea.
-Don

 

[Provincial]

Pliers, but not a well stamped.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It's strange to see it on a hammer. The slip-joint heritage is even designed into the shape of the trademark in the form of that three-oval outline around the name.

 

[terminus766]

McKaig-Hatch

Thank you! I wonder why I wasn't able to find it on alloy artifacts site?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I don't know. Maybe they don't include it. But that monograph is without a doubt McKaig-Hatch. Originally, it was more stylized, with the left upright of the M and the right upright of the H being rounded in concentricity with the circular outline. Over time it became simplified.

 

[Old Radar]

Thank you! I wonder why I wasn't able to find it on alloy artifacts site?

I don't know. Maybe they don't include it. But that monograph is without a doubt McKaig-Hatch. Originally, it was more stylized, with the left upright of the M and the right upright of the H being rounded in concentricity with the circular outline. Over time it became simplified.

That's why you couldn't find it. AA has the older, more stylized version.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I got curious myself. AA does have some later tools with the plainer MH in a circle logo in the McKaig-Hatch section, they just don't discuss the evolution of the logo or include the later logo in the main logo section. I can see how that would confuse people. It's a conjoined MH in a circle, but it's clearly not the same conjoined MH in a circle as the early trademark and they don't address the difference.

 

[d42jeep]

They should have included this marking.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Yes, that's the marking terminus766 originally inquired about, Don. He posted his example in post #217.

I agree, AA should have both. Interestingly enough, I have pliers that have both logos!

 

[yeggybandini]

Hey, does anyone recognize this manufacturer, or can anyone ever make it out? I see what looks like Seattle and at first I thought its a Seattle Tool Co, but the second word next to Seattle almost looks like it ends in a W. Theres also something in the middle there. Its kinda hard to make out, I know, I've been looking all over and cant seem to find anything resembling this logo.
Thanks.

 

[3baygarage]

Hi. Apparently it’s Seattle Hardware Co. “Occident”. Never heard of it myself.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Me neither. Lots of hits on Google Books. Occident was a brand.

Hardware World

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[four.cycle]

1914 Seattle Hardware Co. catalog Maydole Occident hammer ad pp 17

* best guess would be that "Occident" was Seattle Hardware Company's "house brand" - the name makes other appearances in the same catalog on other hammer types. ("Occident" does not appear in any of the other 1914 Seattle Hardware Co. catalog pages that I currently have on file.)

 

[four.cycle]

yeah... I'm going to put my money on ...

Occident / Occident hammer private label brand of Seattle Hardware Co. /

 

[d42jeep]

Here is the logo of Reiff & Nestor Company. I have their thread files
-Don

 

[PSCo1867]

Cannot find info on this "backward-s in circle" logo on this small DOE wrench:

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I don't know what it is, but I can offer my thoughts for your consideration.

I suspect the reverse is unintentional and something to do with a flipped die.

The logo of an "S" in a circle was trademarked by H.D. Smith. Strangely, Starrett also used it, but only on pressed steel sockets. I am not familiar with either of them making DOE wrenches, though, which makes it even more odd. But those are the two I would search.

The "821" is also odd. It's not an ISN. It could be a model number, where the "8" is indicating the purpose of the wrench, possibly, but less likely, the composition, in a series of "8xx" model numbers, and the "21" is the ISN designator. It's an engineers' wrench, technically, and the markings (1/8" x 3/16") are correct for an ISN "21" wrench if they are expressed in U.S.S. nut and bolt sizes. The milled openings would be 5/16" x 13/32". With the jaws spread on that one opening, it's going to be hard to measure.

No idea on the "ACB."

 

[Debcrow]

Looks like a BackSwards H. D. Smith company

 

[PSCo1867]

"H.D. Smith circle-S backward mistake?" is what I posted a couple of days ago as my guess in the "Show off your DOE's!" thread.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

While I have posted plenty of wrenches there, that's one of a few threads that eludes my Watched list for updates by others for some reason. If I have anything more to add about the sizes, ISN or the other marking, I will put it there.

 

[PSCo1867]

I need to get better at linking relevant posts when needed. Had I done this you'd have known.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/show-off-your-does.327403/post-10649037