rattle_snake's random shop projects v0.1

[rattle_snake]

Still working on the trailer. Getting closer. Got the heavy duty recessed d-rings installed. Decided to put then just in front of the rear storage area, so I can put a 2x10 into the side rail posts.


Just close enough to the nearest cross member to get the backing plate to overlap.


I attempted to buy some chain but didn't find what I wanted. So fiddled with the lift strap to get it to work temporarily. Test the concept.


Once rear strap is the perfect length, just crank down the front until tires touch and done.


One thing that has always bothered me when securing a motorcycle are the open hooks on most cam straps. If they get loose, they can come off, and bike can fall off trailer. Bike has suspension so it's a concern.
So I cut off all the open hooks and used 'human climbing' rated carabiners. Welded dedicated mounts on the rails with an extra chain link.


For the upper handlebar end, I reworked the soft straps I already had. Instead of one end captive to the cam strap and hooking the other I decided to use them like they were intended. A pull though loop which can be left on and stuffed behind the number plate. Then another carabiner to attach.


Also shortened the straps, and re-sewed the ends to have a hand loop to get a good grip on when tightening them down. No more 3 feet of red strap flapping in the rear view, or having to tie up the loose ends.


Trailers are bouncy and the back end of a bike will move around. Adding the forward bulkhead moved the bike back and the old tiedown scheme doesn't work. Needed to add another d-ring to outside of tire. Stole one from another location, ironically the place I had just installed one for the last trip. Quad is also moved back also and that point is now useless underneath the tire.
Customized an orphan cam strap (the other three are MIA) to fit just right. Shortened the cam side with a new loop. cut most of the strap length off and made a handle on the end. Simple and compact.


Test fit stuff to figure out the lengths for bungees. Ordered some more 15s as that seems to be the magic length.


Getting closer to my goal of making things quick and easy. Hope to finish it out this weekend and move on to the next project.

 

[rattle_snake]

Looking for ideas on how to better secure the ramp.

Currently the system uses spring loaded hooks. They are quick and easy but not very secure. The ramp flops around and is noisy. I want something to hold it tight, probably only need to do one side. I've used a ratchet strap in the past but want something dedicated to the purpose, quick and easy. Maybe a link, or some type of over center latch (like a chain binder). Simple, light, UV resistant.

 

[ntsqd]

What about a turn-buckle or two to secure the gate? Replace any jam nuts with wing nuts, or add them. Add a simple pin with a cross hole for a linch pin to the side(s) of the gate. Remove the linch pin, loosen the turn-buckle and pull it off the side pin to lower the gate.

I'll post it when I find it, but recently a guy on another forum posted a diagram of the relative strengths of different sewing patterns on webbing. I'd not expected it to matter as much as it apparently does.

 

[KansasProud]

Yeah here come the Rooster. You know he ain't gonna die! Great name for a dirt bike!

 

[WoodsTruck]

With a weld on jack mount on each rear corner you should be able to lift the rear of the trailer for a tire change while the trailer is hooked. I need to get some ordered for my work trailer. I hate climbing under a muddy trailer to place a jack under the axle.

 

[OutlawDrifter]

Just food for thought...that strap coming off the winch and going over the rail corner, it might end up cutting it. It doesn't look like a sharp corner, but that rubbing eventually will eat its way through. A guy could fashion a roller to run the strap over and alleviate some of that.

I like Thom's turnbuckle idea, or find a quality set of cantilever latches to add to one or both sides.

 

[rattle_snake]

What about a turn-buckle or two to secure the gate? Replace any jam nuts with wing nuts, or add them. Add a simple pin with a cross hole for a linch pin to the side(s) of the gate. Remove the linch pin, loosen the turn-buckle and pull it off the side pin to lower the gate.

I'll post it when I find it, but recently a guy on another forum posted a diagram of the relative strengths of different sewing patterns on webbing. I'd not expected it to matter as much as it apparently does.

Not sure I understand exactly.
Yes the web sewing makes a difference. I just plow over things in all directions if it's just a grab handle.

Yeah here come the Rooster. You know he ain't gonna die! Great name for a dirt bike!

Thanks. It will throw a hell of a roost with a paddle tire in the sand.

With a weld on jack mount on each rear corner you should be able to lift the rear of the trailer for a tire change while the trailer is hooked. I need to get some ordered for my work trailer. I hate climbing under a muddy trailer to place a jack under the axle.

Great idea, that was what I was thinking, just add the short post on both sides.

Just food for thought...that strap coming off the winch and going over the rail corner, it might end up cutting it. It doesn't look like a sharp corner, but that rubbing eventually will eat its way through. A guy could fashion a roller to run the strap over and alleviate some of that.

I like Thom's turnbuckle idea, or find a quality set of cantilever latches to add to one or both sides.

Yes it could, I considered that. Put the winch where the handle would work and not ideal for the working angle. I don't think it will have much if any movement to rub being so short. I can wind the strap the opposite direction and reduce the angle/interference.

 

[ntsqd]

Yeah, can't see getting wound around the axle over a pull-handle.

Turn-buckle gate "latch":


SBC wrist pins are good rollers for things like deflecting the strap over the edge of the tube.
I'm guessing that the crank runs into the front-most tube if you try to move the winch further forwards to get a better angle on things and miss that tube that the strap is bent over.

 

[rattle_snake]

Thanks, that is what I was thinking but a fixed length link. The ramp doesn't have any type of stop beyond the existing latches. I have some old worn out rod ends and bushings that could work. Pin on one end.
Or I could extend the rail a few inches and put a pin though it and the ramp. Have to make it as hard as possible and expensive.

I could tilt the winch, but that complicates the mount.

As for strap chafing, my dad used a long strap to hold a boat down on a trailer. The trailer had a tilting rear set of rollers, so attaching straps from transom to end of trailer didn't hold much. So instead a strap over the whole hull at the end of the fixed frame part of the trailer. The strap oscillated a lot in the wind, even twisted. We used chunks of rubber or fabric on all the edges. PITA to put them back each time. The strap went thousands of miles. When the boat became mine, I put on a new strap and never used any pads.

 

[ntsqd]

If you want to stop the rattles you need a hard stop and a means to pull the gate against it. A couple gusseted tabs welded to the side of the gate that tag the ends of the side rails should be enough. Anything with a fixed length is just going to rattle and wear the pins or holes or both increasing the rattle potential. Got to be able to take the slop out of the system.

 

[bugnut]

I have used a jackstand centered to the ramps, very portable and you already have them in stock. And since you are taking bikes, got a motorcycle stand on hand as it could support one corner also.

Similar to Thoms thoughts my previous trailed had flatstock bolted on one end and pinned as he showed on the ramp side.

 

[PhantomEB]

Love the ideas you had for the trailer.

I was thinking the same thing with my camper and the tie down turn buckles and hold down points. Anything that had a hook got replaced with a quick link or carabiner.