LutzTD
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nice building, got some real usable sqft's 
Above 1200 Sq/FT Shorty's Shed
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
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shortykorte
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Pleasantly surprised to see I had a visit from the electric co-op fairy.
Now more of the project that doesn’t end…or the more you do something the more you learn.
Let’s lay cable.
Got sand to bed the cable, the cable
Cut back roots
Cable laid out and started in the conduit
And installed
A little back fill to deterrent cable thief.
Wait, why don’t I have enough of a cable end to connect to meter.
Now more of the project that doesn’t end…or the more you do something the more you learn.
Let’s lay cable.
Got sand to bed the cable, the cable
Cut back roots
Cable laid out and started in the conduit
And installed
A little back fill to deterrent cable thief.
Wait, why don’t I have enough of a cable end to connect to meter.
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shortykorte
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This didn’t work 
So pulled the cable out of the box and conduit and tried pulling again. No luck.
Since trench was only half filled, I was able to pull up cable and it’s sitting in the shop. . I’ll clean out trench Saturday and do it right the firs….er, fifth time.
So pulled the cable out of the box and conduit and tried pulling again. No luck.
Since trench was only half filled, I was able to pull up cable and it’s sitting in the shop. . I’ll clean out trench Saturday and do it right the firs….er, fifth time.
rmack898
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Lube is your friend.
Chrisb62
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How do you lube all the sand ??????
PugetDude
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Usually it's inadvertently.How do you lube all the sand ??????
LutzTD
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sand always gets in when laying the pipe outdoors......
I always thought trenching in sand would be so easy, I kept telling myself that the hundredth time I went back to retrench for all of the cave ins.
I always thought trenching in sand would be so easy, I kept telling myself that the hundredth time I went back to retrench for all of the cave ins.
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shortykorte
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I did use Dawn in the conduit but only 6’ of 134’ is in conduit. The rest is direct bury in native sand and clean sand. Digging in our sandy soil isn’t to bad until you hit the basketball size chunk of clay or a 5” thick root.
PugetDude
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DR Towable backhoe.
Every Floridaian should own one.
Every Floridaian should own one.
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shortykorte
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Some fall temps brings good moods.
Trench cleaned out and a tad deeper. Check.
Meter mounted hopefully last time and wired. Next trip, basic interior electrical and foam.
Oops ground rods first.
Trench cleaned out and a tad deeper. Check.
Meter mounted hopefully last time and wired. Next trip, basic interior electrical and foam.
Oops ground rods first.
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shortykorte
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Someone mentioned that great idea before. They must own DR.
The DR trailer is pretty nice.
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harley jim
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Looks good this time!
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shortykorte
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Thanks. They say, 9 times a charm.
rmack898
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Like "My cousin Vinny"Thanks. They say, 9 times a charm.
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shortykorte
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Slow and steady progress.
Rain is slowly filling in trench.
Pulled out the football chunks of clay and the sticks then backfilled to the 12” depth so I can place the warning tape.
Saturday morning was gremlin day. I used the trailer as a bench to cut some conduit. I just cut a 50” piece, turned around for a second and it disappeared.
Looked all over, started cussing and decided to cut another piece. Somehow I looked at the back of the trailer and…. Followed this up with dropping screws and drill, breaking bits and knocking over a full tray of conduit clamps.
Took around 4 hours to hang a light and installed 14’ of conduit with a box on each end. Did I mention gremlins?
Luckily after lunch the mirror image of the same took about an hour. If only I knew someone with an order picker. No climbing ladders or scaffolding.
Sunday the final install of panel happened and tonight finished the wiring for the lights and installed an outlet box.
Rain is slowly filling in trench.
Pulled out the football chunks of clay and the sticks then backfilled to the 12” depth so I can place the warning tape.
Saturday morning was gremlin day. I used the trailer as a bench to cut some conduit. I just cut a 50” piece, turned around for a second and it disappeared.
Looked all over, started cussing and decided to cut another piece. Somehow I looked at the back of the trailer and….
Followed this up with dropping screws and drill, breaking bits and knocking over a full tray of conduit clamps.Took around 4 hours to hang a light and installed 14’ of conduit with a box on each end. Did I mention gremlins?
Luckily after lunch the mirror image of the same took about an hour. If only I knew someone with an order picker. No climbing ladders or scaffolding.
Sunday the final install of panel happened and tonight finished the wiring for the lights and installed an outlet box.
Chrisb62
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Ummmmm .....you do.
A working one would be slightly different.
This would be a good excuse to purchase a rolling scaffolding.....it could double as a tall skateboard.
PugetDude
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Shorty, build a work platform for the Kubota...
rmack898
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Then tie strings to the hydraulic controls so you can operate the lift functions from on the platform. I’m sure you’ll be safe.
PugetDude
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You clearly should be doing a Postdoctoral Fellowship at the North Florida Safety Skool.
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shortykorte
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Trust me I’ve wondered how to control the forks while standing on a platform.
Ummm I’ll add this to course catalog. Enrollment for winter classes starts in two weeks.
Ummm I’ll add this to course catalog. Enrollment for winter classes starts in two weeks.
PugetDude
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Mechanical linkage is more positive than string. Find a couple of forked sticks the right length, zip tie them to the control levers and you should be good.
Toolfool
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Fixed it.
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shortykorte
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I’ve got some long 1/4” rod and some U clamps. Stay tuned.
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shortykorte
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Ground rods! The hammer drill with the driver adapter made quick work.
First one I was able to reach the top because rod started in the trench. Second one I had to use a safety stool.
To make the 90° for the 4/0 cables going inside to the panel, I used my staple gun. No marring or cuts to sheathing.
Friday I requested the trench inspection and took off Friday afternoon so I could be here. No show.
While waiting I tried a second attempt at getting the left hot hooked to the panel lug. First time, cable was short.
Cable was long enough but couldn’t get it bent the right way to go into lug. Ended the day with two failed attempts.
First one I was able to reach the top because rod started in the trench. Second one I had to use a safety stool.
To make the 90° for the 4/0 cables going inside to the panel, I used my staple gun. No marring or cuts to sheathing.
Friday I requested the trench inspection and took off Friday afternoon so I could be here. No show.
While waiting I tried a second attempt at getting the left hot hooked to the panel lug. First time, cable was short.
Cable was long enough but couldn’t get it bent the right way to go into lug. Ended the day with two failed attempts.
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shortykorte
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Forgot, this week was insulation. Closed cell 2” ceiling, 1” walls. Glad I checked up on them after the first day, a little on the thin side. Probably 1/2-3/4 on both.
Sent this to the boss. Even at 1” the ribs shouldn’t be that visible.
The second day they added to the first coat and finished the other half. Made up a quick gauge and only found one low spot that was just under 1”. Another oops was the open outlet boxes guess they have never seen one.
One was completely covered with extra foam.
The boss will get these pics tomorrow.
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shortykorte
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Today was third attempt at the hot leg. Last night I thought the ability to spring the cable was needed. 
Eureka. Hopefully I can rough electric signed off and get power hooked up.
I had a lip at the end of the parking apron and with all the Chevy power, didn’t want to end up in the building so a little fill and grade.
Much smoother backing up.
Eureka. Hopefully I can rough electric signed off and get power hooked up.
I had a lip at the end of the parking apron and with all the Chevy power, didn’t want to end up in the building so a little fill and grade.
Much smoother backing up.
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shortykorte
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Last on the list was the carry all.
A little trim out of the middle. Tacked it back together for a test fit.
Perfect. Looks like plenty of room to put the crunched shelf and tool box back on.
A little trim out of the middle. Tacked it back together for a test fit.
Perfect. Looks like plenty of room to put the crunched shelf and tool box back on.
LutzTD
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did they require a bond on your slab rebar? I had to chisel into my wall to attach the rebar to a ground rod before they would pass my power install. I had a meter and I am in Hillsborough County, so maybe it is different. insulation looks good except where it doesn't I am surprised they did that to your outlet boxes, I wonder if they are supposed to mask or something.
I am surprised they did that to your outlet boxes, I wonder if they are supposed to mask or something.
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shortykorte
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I don’t know but I’m ready. Concrete guy installed this for me. I didn’t know what it was for. I guess things have changed since my last shop build.
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shortykorte
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Oh, I forgot an announcement. A friend sent this for a friend.
He asked if the was an upcoming safety class.
There sure is. The second annual fall Florida Safety Skool class on proper bandsaw use and first aid. There will be a master *******…er bandage and dressing practioner showing the latest tricks.
For the first three enrollees, you get a free roll of Shorty’s Cure the Blues bandage tape. All graduates will receive a Shorty’s Safety Super Scooper.
Sign up now, sign up often!
He asked if the was an upcoming safety class.
There sure is. The second annual fall Florida Safety Skool class on proper bandsaw use and first aid. There will be a master *******…er bandage and dressing practioner showing the latest tricks.
For the first three enrollees, you get a free roll of Shorty’s Cure the Blues bandage tape. All graduates will receive a Shorty’s Safety Super Scooper.
Sign up now, sign up often!
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LutzTD
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WHAT, no duct tape available? Superglue?
Strouty
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Should stitch that up with bailing wire, it will eventually dissolve.
Toolfool
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I seem to remember telling you about covering boxes.
Forgot, this week was insulation. Closed cell 2” ceiling, 1” walls. Glad I checked up on them after the first day, a little on the thin side. Probably 1/2-3/4 on both.
Sent this to the boss. Even at 1” the ribs shouldn’t be that visible.
The second day they added to the first coat and finished the other half. Made up a quick gauge and only found one low spot that was just under 1”. Another oops was the open outlet boxes guess they have never seen one.
One was completely covered with extra foam.
PugetDude
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You can lead a horse to water...I seem to remember telling you about covering boxes.
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shortykorte
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Uh, that’s why I paid extra so they’d do it.
If I covered the boxes, they probably would have buried them all.
If I covered the boxes, they probably would have buried them all.
PugetDude
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Of course they would.Uh, that’s why I paid extra so they’d do it.
If I covered the boxes, they probably would have buried them all.
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shortykorte
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A couple of highlights for the upcoming Florida Safety Skool.
A session on ground level electrical
Yes, Florida Safety Shoes are being worn.
Also, proper high level working platforms
There will be a quiz on what’s missing.
A session on ground level electrical
Yes, Florida Safety Shoes are being worn.
Also, proper high level working platforms
There will be a quiz on what’s missing.