Yeah, got lots of tools that I bought because they look cool.
Nice boat and nice workspace you have.
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Nice boat and nice workspace you have.
RTM
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If course, so many spokeshaves are cool and unique, you'd have to buy them all. Trust me I know. And I've barely made a dent in the Spokeshave Book inventory.
milkovich
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I picked this up in a lot of tools (I was probably after the chisels) but I can't get a discernable makers mark. I've seen this exact model as a keen kutter though. Any ideas who sold it? 
RTM
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There were lots in that general shape, but the blade depth of cut adjusters should reduce that list.
I think Osborne made one, and they succeeded Wm Johnson. I have two or three unmarked ones.
I also have a similar one. It's marked Charles Henry Sheffield.I picked this up in a lot of tools (I was probably after the chisels) but I can't get a discernable makers mark. I've seen this exact model as a keen kutter though. Any ideas who sold it?
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milkovich
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It's amazing how the power of suggestion improves your perception. Glad to help.
hsvtoolfool
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I'm curious if the dimensions match the original pattern or if your plane is 1% to 2% smaller due to casting shrinkage.
RTM
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3/16" per foot shrinkage gives 1.5%. That's some tight measuring on something small.
I'd also look at things like the handle, is it hollow like original casting, details missing, etc.
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milkovich
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Found this chonky boi in an estate auction along with a pile of beat up Atkins and Disston saws. 
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And I suppose only cost you $10-15 too, just to add to the sweetness. 607 or 608¿. Corrugated?Found this chonky boi in an estate auction along with a pile of beat up Atkins and Disston saws.
milkovich
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crguy
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Good catch!Found this chonky boi in an estate auction along with a pile of beat up Atkins and Disston saws.
hsvtoolfool
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Agree about the lost casting details.
Please check my math, but 1% of an inch is 0.010" (aka 10 thou). That's not hard to measure with common calipers. Or is that not how casting shrinkage works?
On the other hand, any pattern can be "tweaked" by adding some plaster/paint to build up areas that will be machined later.
The orginal #192 was 1" wide. I would just love know if it's super-close or way off the original width.
RTM
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I think you are correct, but remember these were probably machined a bit originally, so two models from the same line on the same day could be off by about that much, especially on something like a 78, where both faces may get touched. I think this adds more challenge to the checking than the ability to measure.
Something like a cast handle might be better, as it wasn't machined as much, maybe just polished. But a bench plane doesn't have that option.
GaryM909
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No 3 looks very modern, not sure if it will give good results. The craftsman should be a good user. If it is marked BB, then it would made by Millers Falls. BL would be Sargent. May be on the side of the body or on the blade.
GaryM909
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All I could find was DD on the blade.
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The "DD" stamp was applied on the Millers Falls irons between 1936 and 1948.
According to this site
Craftsman Planes Made By Millers Falls Co. — Millers Falls Planes
A collection of Craftsman planes that were made by the Millers Falls Co. between 1933 through 1969
www.justtheplanefacts.com
GaryM909
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I didn't think it was that old. I bought it about 30 years ago at a garage sale and used it quite bit. I haven't had a use for it for quite a few years now.The "DD" stamp was applied on the Millers Falls irons between 1936 and 1948.
According to this site
Craftsman Planes Made By Millers Falls Co. — Millers Falls Planes
A collection of Craftsman planes that were made by the Millers Falls Co. between 1933 through 1969
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Blades are easy to change, you can swap a Stanley of almost any era into a Millers Falls, or Sargent, of any era. Worst thing to use for plane dating, but sometimes all we have at hand.
With that color scheme, it looks post 1950s to me, and maybe up to 1975 or so. Some intense googling and ogling of images might find out who sold it, and maybe who made it. But I suspect a lower level player. More later.
What’s interesting is its .006 over size 1.006 and had to check it out with a micrometer. As we know a caliper is just a rough measurement in tan my tool and die trade. Plus it’s very consistent as well with high details.
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Seymour Smith. I have that same model.
Shop class, I guess. I had some Barton chisels marked with a school district but I don’t have them anymore.
milkovich
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I have a small backsaw with this exact same etch.
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I had one also. After I got rid of it, I found that there were several in the book with a very similar shape, so could not go back and check easily. Now I have a reminder. Very unique lever cap on the others as well. I had Seymour Smith and Sons down as a guess
RTM
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That's a Goodell Pratt 36 pattern makers shave, often marked in tiny font on the knob. There are also 2-3 other unmarked flavors of that.
Goodell-Pratt Company : Complete Catalog Number 16 : Goodell-Pratt Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
388 p., illus., 13.9 cm, trade catalog
archive.org
hsvtoolfool
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So somebody must have "built up" the original plane sides, bottom, and perhaps the throat with paint, plaster, clay (or whatever) then created a wax mold for bronze casting. The amount of hobby work in that plane is just plain crazy. I love it.
@hsvtoolfool I’m sure it was on government time lol . I’m thinking maybe made up out of mahogany to test ones shrinking mathematics . What I like about it besides being different but the weight as it has a great feel when making chips.
Slater. I believe they mainly sold castings that the user would add the iron and the wedge. So making a new iron would be appropriate.
They made it into modern times selling garden pruners and loppers etc. I think their stuff was pretty good quality. I'd guess our spokeshaves are early 1900's. I've used mine a lot making chisel handles and tool handles.
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Aluminum weatherstripping plane I think.
