Looks great. Record and Preston made some great looking tools.Took a risk on the ugliest Record 073 on eBay and it's cleaning up nice. I've wanted one forever, but now that I've used it, it feels comically oversized and at least 2 pounds heavier than it needs to be. It is pretty and it takes micron thick shavings with the grain but cross grain, I'm not sure it's much better than a wooden skew rabbet plane you can find for $10. I'll keep messing with it but I'm considering this part of my weight lifting protocol for 2025.
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CRSINMICH
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milkovich
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This one does have an adjustable mouth. The prestons that @ararat mentioned don't and consequently, though older and prettier, they're a little cheaper. I have the mouth choked up, but I'm going to put a factory bevel on it and see if I can get it to work better that way. My other adjustable mouth planes can go across grain without "rolling" the fibers out, but they are at a higher angle (9 1/2 for example). This plane does work very well on end grain and with grain. Maybe I just need to try it on some hardwood (I'm just in the middle of building a mortise/tenon desk for junior out of white pine). After I finish this desk the next project will be in cherry so hopefully this plane pulls its (substantial) weight there.
Successful transplant. I got these two in a box of planes and parts. The #15 had a cap that was broken and the #9 1/2 had a good cap but the lever was broken
I used a hacksaw and a chisel to break the good lever out. Lightly peened the pin back to round. Cut the bad lever off the 9 1/2. I installed the good lever and carefully peened it again with the 2 oz hammer. I just knew I was going to break the good cap, but I only missed the target a few times and nothing broke.
So now the 9 1/2 is cleaned up and the 15 still needs a cap. Cheapest one on ebay is $25 dollars + SH, which is probably more than the plane is worth. I will just wait for a donor plane. I already have a 15 like this anyway. I did find a parts plane for cheap for a lateral adjuster for the 9 1/2 that's on the way. Possible bad news on the 91/2 cutter if you can see from the picture.
The excelsior body collection keeps growing. 15, 18, and 9 1/2.
I used a hacksaw and a chisel to break the good lever out. Lightly peened the pin back to round. Cut the bad lever off the 9 1/2. I installed the good lever and carefully peened it again with the 2 oz hammer. I just knew I was going to break the good cap, but I only missed the target a few times and nothing broke.
So now the 9 1/2 is cleaned up and the 15 still needs a cap. Cheapest one on ebay is $25 dollars + SH, which is probably more than the plane is worth. I will just wait for a donor plane. I already have a 15 like this anyway. I did find a parts plane for cheap for a lateral adjuster for the 9 1/2 that's on the way. Possible bad news on the 91/2 cutter if you can see from the picture.
The excelsior body collection keeps growing. 15, 18, and 9 1/2.
milkovich
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I would check with https://just-plane-fun.myshopify.com/ I've bought several things from him and he is usually about 1/2 the price of ebay and charges you the actual shipping. Just a heads up though, I haggle (always) and I don't think I've gotten him to move a dollar lol.
Thanks for the link. They didn't have the part I needed, but they did have the tap and die for the handle hardware, so I got that to fix a couple of planes with handle issues.
milkovich
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He can only show a small sample of what he has in inventory (since these are 100 year old tools, there's no automatic inventory system) but his hoard is massive and he specializes in stanley. I typically go through Facebook but he probably answers through his website as well.
Ok. I will try send a message through the site then. Don't want to reawaken the Facebook account if I can help it.
tombell572
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Another vote for Just Plane Fun (Michael Jenks). I've needed correct small parts of a few occasions and he's had them at a fair price, always helpful, nice to deal with.
Tom B.
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Nice lineup. You have a great collection.
Here are some of my favorites for using. Record No 076 bullnose, Stanley 140, Union No 3, Stanley 40, Union 4 1/2
I got the No 40 without an iron, but I had a Hernshaw brothers iron that fits perfectly.
Well the donor plane with the lateral adjuster came in and I couldn't get it to work right with the number 9 1/2.Successful transplant. I got these two in a box of planes and parts. The #15 had a cap that was broken and the #9 1/2 had a good cap but the lever was broken
I used a hacksaw and a chisel to break the good lever out. Lightly peened the pin back to round. Cut the bad lever off the 9 1/2. I installed the good lever and carefully peened it again with the 2 oz hammer. I just knew I was going to break the good cap, but I only missed the target a few times and nothing broke.
So now the 9 1/2 is cleaned up and the 15 still needs a cap. Cheapest one on ebay is $25 dollars + SH, which is probably more than the plane is worth. I will just wait for a donor plane. I already have a 15 like this anyway. I did find a parts plane for cheap for a lateral adjuster for the 9 1/2 that's on the way. Possible bad news on the 91/2 cutter if you can see from the picture.
The excelsior body collection keeps growing. 15, 18, and 9 1/2.
Apparently they didn't start with the lateral adjuster until 1895. So, it and the incomplete 15 are from before then.
The ones with the adjuster have an area around the screw machined down to make room for the adjuster. $15 bucks down the drain lol. At least the 9 1/2 is complete.
During my researching, I think there is one year where my complete No 15 would have been made with this configuration 1897. I like when I can get the model year down to a small window.
milkovich
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The 78 is kind of plebeian but from a woodworking perspective, it's a super star. It has a nicker and with the later thumb depth adjuster, it's very nearly the perfect wood machine. It will clean up tenons, it can act as a bull nose, it can cut rabbets in end grain. From a function standpoint, not many planes are actually as good at as many things in my opinion. I wish stanley had made a version with an adjustable mouth and had nickel plated it. Like a "78 1/2." Maybe even a rosewood handle (and a knob like the 46?).
Just an update if anyone is interested. I started a new GJ thread for making custom fitted totes following up on a couple of posts back in this thread.
Custom totes
Enjoy!
Custom totes
Enjoy!
milkovich
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On page 45 of the thread we have to have at least one Stanley 45. 
I scored this at a big tool auction in Amish country last week, I already have a 45, but this one was "complete." The box looks like it's been through the war (both actually), and it's missing instructions and the little envelope with extra spurs, but otherwise it's mostly complete. The cam stop looks like an early design, I'm not sure if it's correct for a 7B. I'm also not sure if the box/logo is era correct. I found a price tag from an antique store in the box, so at some point it was in a reseller/dealer's possession, so it's hard to say if he pieced it together or if these parts have been together for over 100 years.
I scored this at a big tool auction in Amish country last week, I already have a 45, but this one was "complete." The box looks like it's been through the war (both actually), and it's missing instructions and the little envelope with extra spurs, but otherwise it's mostly complete. The cam stop looks like an early design, I'm not sure if it's correct for a 7B. I'm also not sure if the box/logo is era correct. I found a price tag from an antique store in the box, so at some point it was in a reseller/dealer's possession, so it's hard to say if he pieced it together or if these parts have been together for over 100 years.four.cycle
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here you go -
Stanley Model 45 woodworking plane
Stanley Model 45 woodworking plane
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1914 Wyeth Hardware & Mfg. Co. catalog Stanley plane ad pp 273.jpg -
1915 J.M. Warren & Co. catalog Stanley plane ad pp 64.jpg -
1938 Michigan Hardware Co. catalog Stanley plane ad pp 28.jpg -
1939 Oklahoma City Hardware Co. catalog Stanley Bailey Plane ad pp 16.jpg -
1948 Farwell Hardware Co. catalog Stanley plane ad pp 36.jpg -
1951 Jensen-Byrd Catalog Stanley Plane ad pp 23.jpg -
1951 Richards & Conover Hardware Co. Catalog Stanley Plane ad pp 31.jpg
milkovich
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Looks like I'm missing the front small depth stop. Those are actually not too hard to find. The irons, box, and cam stop seem like they're correct for a type 7-8. It's also cool that the 1/8 groove cutter isn't broken at the adjuster hole. Those usually snap since there's so little metal there.
lrhredjb
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Yes, Stanley used proprietary threads on its plane parts.
Ebay, flea markets , garage sales could be good sources as well as web sites. Lots of collectors out there.
Beerhippie
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Stanley also made planes for other brands. I managed to find a (cheap) no-brand plane that supplied the adjusting wheel for my #5 Bedrock.
I have a small collection Stanley of knob screws. If you can give me an idea of the length you need, I'll take a look.
RTM
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The post he replied to (koken's) was from Page 1, 2015, not sure he's still looking.
Farmer J.
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That's a nice oneOn page 45 of the thread we have to have at least one Stanley 45.
I bought a NOS no. 45 still in original cardboard box a while ago, but it's only about half the age of that one. At least it's old enough to have wooden handles.. I will now be motivated to take some pics of it, I keep walking past it thinking 'must post that up on the GJ'
Nice find. These planes were meant to replace the "hollows and rounds" wooden planes I guess. Definitely wouldn't take up as much space.On page 45 of the thread we have to have at least one Stanley 45.
I have the craftsman version of this plane. The notch on the cutters are a different shape than Stanley. It's made by Sargent. My dad gave it to me several years ago, he found it in an antique store. I got all the cutters from ebay.
RTM
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Sargent 1080 or 1085, depending on how many blades you got with it. I have a 1080, and three sets of blades, none of which were complete, and all have varying degrees of rust. Need to finish that project, and move the extra blades on. The two extras were both bought at GS or ES, guessing someone bought the plane w one blade, and missed the roll of blades.Nice find. These planes were meant to replace the "hollows and rounds" wooden planes I guess. Definitely wouldn't take up as much space.
I have the craftsman version of this plane. The notch on the cutters are a different shape than Stanley. It's made by Sargent. My dad gave it to me several years ago, he found it in an antique store. I got all the cutters from ebay.
I was gonna say, I have to wait many pages to post mine, but I can do something on the next page.
milkovich
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I think they were really to replace the wooden plow planes, I don't think anything can replace a real wooden molding plane except a router/shaper and even then, you'll get machine marks.
Mine has hollow and round cutters along with the plough cutters. Obviously not the largest sizes you would have with wooden hollows and rounds set.
milkovich
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Ah ok, I was talking about the 45 type planes. The Stanley 55 and Sargent 1085 definitely had the wooden molding planes in their sights. I can get the 55 to make molding, but the wood has to be A+ clear and straight and I have to cut with the grain or it's a disaster. I think the wooden molding planes are a little more forgiving.
Ah, now it makes sense. I was confused on the model numbers.
lrhredjb
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I usually use a #4, sometimes a #5. Last year I found a #3C body and I plan to get enough parts to make it into a user. All Stanley planes of course. Recently found a nice Keen Kutter block plane I will start using.
Stanley made some Keen Kutter bench planes so the block plane could be Stanley, too.
Got this little fella with a group of rusty planes and parts. Union 101 plane. It's got most of the japanning but it needs sharpening. Last picture is with my other mini planes. Two Stanley planes and a Craftsman right to left. 
Farmer J.
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Perhaps I should have waited until page 50 for this one, as it's not a '45' after all!
I got it in at auction, nobody else bid, haven't done anything with it yet but my joiner friend says it will be a nice toy to keep me amused..
I got it in at auction, nobody else bid, haven't done anything with it yet but my joiner friend says it will be a nice toy to keep me amused..
RTM
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I like my #50 much more than the 1080. Never pursued a 45 until recently, when I found one cheap, have yet to use it. Not sure the difference between a 50 and 50s, but at a glance does not seem like muchhaven't done anything with it yet but my joiner friend says it will be a nice toy to keep me amused..
four.cycle
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Farmer J.
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Yes, that's what the booklet with mine says, it came with only the strait cutters. The extra cutters could be purchased separately according to the label on the storage box.
Here's another of my favorites ( I have a lot of favorites haha). Very early Stanley no 36. I think it is a type 2 if I remember. It's been awhile since I researched it.
The customization of this plane is cool. The thin Stanley blade was replaced with a big beefy Butcher blade. A steel sole was added. It looks like the old owner added it early on, because it shows some wear, but the wood body is still thick. A lot of times the transitional planes have been worn down so much that the wood body becomes too thin and often get re-soled.
The customization of this plane is cool. The thin Stanley blade was replaced with a big beefy Butcher blade. A steel sole was added. It looks like the old owner added it early on, because it shows some wear, but the wood body is still thick. A lot of times the transitional planes have been worn down so much that the wood body becomes too thin and often get re-soled.
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For Ararat: a custom transitional plane, similar to the style of a Stanley 35, with brass/bronze castings including an innovative cap on the handle top. When I got this at a local auction the brass was oxidized black and it was missing the blade adjuster wheel and post. But it cleaned up nicely, I scavenged the blade adjusting bits off another plane, sharpened the blade, and made a few shavings.
I don't recognize the adjuster wheel. What type of plane did it come off?For Ararat: a custom transitional plane, similar to the style of a Stanley 35, with brass/bronze castings including an innovative cap on the handle top. When I got this at a local auction the brass was oxidized black and it was missing the blade adjuster wheel and post. But it cleaned up nicely, I scavenged the blade adjusting bits off another plane, sharpened the blade, and made a few shavings.
That's really cool. It would be easy to miss the upgrades from the first picture. I would like to see a few more pictures if you get a chance.
Are the rest of the parts Stanley #35 parts? It looks like it could be a new wood body too, but I can't tell from the pictures.