Show us your handplanes

[CRSINMICH]

Thanks Joe: All I had to do was google PEXTO planes. I knew about the pressed steel frogs but I didn't know that PEXTO was responsible for that.

Anybody out there have a PEXTO plane to post?​

 

[crguy]

Anybody out there have a PEXTO plane to post?​

LOL, Nobody that knows anything about planes wants one on the property.

 

[Joe Huld]

Here is todays find; a pretty scarce Sargent 3407 transitional smoothing plane. It is in great shape with the original VBM marked iron and ought to clean up real nice. It appears to be a type 2 made between 1910 and 1918. This was the smallest transitional plane made, the equivalent to Stanleys #21. I've owned a couple of Stanley 21 but I think this is the first 3407 I've found

 

[CRSINMICH]

Joe: Nice find on that Sargent. I like their stuff. Here's a clip from their 1911 catalog. In case you don't already know, VBM stands for Very Best Made. Don't confuse it with OVB which Hibbert, Spencer, and Bartlett put on their tools. That stands for Our Very Best. Competition was tough in those days.

 

[TheNFCNorthRemembers]

This is my bench plane collection I've acquired over the last year. At some point I decided I wanted to have a set of type 13 "sweetheart" bench planes.

As of now I have a 2-8 and a 10 1/2. I'm not actively hunting down a No. 1, but am looking for a No. 10!

 

[Jim C.]

This is my bench plane collection I've acquired over the last year. At some point I decided I wanted to have a set of type 13 "sweetheart" bench planes.

As of now I have a 2-8 and a 10 1/2. I'm not actively hunting down a No. 1, but am looking for a No. 10!

That’s a nice set of planes and an ambitious endeavor. Are you collecting only smooth sole or corrugated sole examples as well? Can you post a photo of the logo on the cutting iron that you’re attributing to the Type 13 bench plane? The reason I’m asking pertains specifically to the #1, which is a slightly different animal than its larger siblings. Sometimes the best way to put a date on them boils down to the logo on the cutting iron, and that’s not necessarily a fool proof method either. Are you considering adding the scrub planes (#40 and #40 1/2) to your bench plane collection? Do you use the planes? Once again, nice collection!

Jim C.

 

[TheNFCNorthRemembers]

That’s a nice set of planes and an ambitious endeavor. Are you collecting only smooth sole or corrugated sole examples as well? Can you post a photo of the logo on the cutting iron that you’re attributing to the Type 13 bench plane? Do you plan to use the planes?

Jim C.

Smooth soles. I'm going to be using them, but probably not as frequently as my LN low angle jack. And definitely not the No. 2.

They all have a correct SW blade, and I have a few extras that I've traded off. I've been able to do this by buying planes/tools at auctions/estate sales, cleaning and sharpening them, then reselling them online.

 

[TheNFCNorthRemembers]

The reason I’m asking pertains specifically to the #1, which is a slightly different animal than its larger siblings. Sometimes the best way to put a date on them boils down to the logo on the cutting iron, and that’s not necessarily a fool proof method either. Are you considering adding the scrub planes (#40 and #40 1/2) to your bench plane collection?
Jim C.

No #1 yet, and I'm not actively searching it out at the moment. Don't have $1500 to spend on a single plane!

I don't have a #40 or #41 1/2 yet either. All of these were purchased locally at auction and/or on the Facebook group "Can I Have It Vintage Tool Auctions". I supposed if I come across a #40 or #40 1/2 I'll pick one up though

At the moment the ones I'm looking for the most are the #10 and #62.

 

[Boatman62]

A few of my users. The Sargent Ladybug was a $10 barn sale find.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Boatman: That's a nice user set. I especially like that Ladybug. I didn't know they even existed and now I want one.

Does that squirrel tail say 'Bailey' on the tail? What does the stamp on the iron say?

 

[RTM]

Oohhhhh Ladybug, and at only $10, very nice score.

Should say Bailey 100-1/2 on the squirrel.

 

[purpurite]

Can anyone tell me what this crown-top Craftsman is? It was in my grandmother's attic when she passed. I'm not a woodworker, so this just hangs out on my shelf.


Doug

 

[sixfootfive]

I found your plane's sibling recently at a local consignment shop. In researching it, I found the linked type study for Craftsman hand planes which indicates it was made by Stanley between 1969 & 1974.

https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/54...AFTSMAN TYPE STUDY V5.0.pdf?ver=1581295154892

 

[RTM]

Nice find on the chart, hadn’t seen that before.

I just saw a Stanley with the similar ribbing around the tote, was gonna pop in, but you beat me to it.

 

[CRSINMICH]

PLANE MAKING​

This thread has bogged down a bit so here are some plane videos to keep you amused.​

The first two are about the manufacture of metal bench planes

Lie-Nielsen:

Clifton (UK):

The next two are about the last two men working for Marples making wooden planes

Bench planes:

Moulding planes:

Watch the wooden plane makers carefully. You'll see them using some interesting tools; floats, a wooden brace with a spoon bit, and some mother planes. Mother planes were the planes that moulding plane makers used to make more moulding planes.

The next two links are about mother planes

https://woodandshop.com/williamsburg-mother-planes-tour/
http://kapeldesigns.blogspot.com/2015/05/what-is-mother-plane.html

Also, Stavros Gakos has a YouTube channel. A lot of his videos are about the planes he makes.

 

[crguy]

Smooth soles. I'm going to be using them, but probably not as frequently as my LN low angle jack. And definitely not the No. 2.

They all have a correct SW blade, and I have a few extras that I've traded off. I've been able to do this by buying planes/tools at auctions/estate sales, cleaning and sharpening them, then reselling them online.

The blade trademark shown in your picture is 1920 vintage, which would make it for a type 12 plane. There are 3 different trademarks with the heart on them, that is the earliest one.
See Roger Smiths' type study for more.

 

[Woody1320]

Just picked up this Japanese block plane off Amazon for right at 13 bucks. It's my first hand plane, so I don't have much to compare it to, really. However, I've enjoyed tinkering with it so far, and I may add a couple larger ones to the collection.

 

[RTM]

Does that have the hollow back blade? If so, bit of an art to sharpen it.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Woody: I don't know much about Japanese planes but I've been toying with the idea of trying one. Let us know how you make out with it. From the videos I have seen, it looks like they are wicked sharp. Watch some YouTubes about sharpening and setting them up. I'm sure there are lots of them out there. Good luck.

 

[chenry318]

I just picked up these three hand planes tonight. Still learning how to identify them but I believe there is a type 17 No 5, Type 11 No 4, and Stanley 4 square "Household Jack Plane" (5-1/4 equivalent)

 

[CRSINMICH]

chenry: That's a nice starter set if you're going to use them. 4 Square was a budget Stanley line but of better quality than their Handyman line. I have a regular 5 1/4 but I've never used it. It might be just the thing for certain uses. The #4 in your picture looks extra wide compared to the other two planes. Might it be a 4 1/2 or is it a camera effect? 4 1/2's are great to use.

 

[chenry318]

chenry: That's a nice starter set if you're going to use them. 4 Square was a budget Stanley line but of better quality than their Handyman line. I have a regular 5 1/4 but I've never used it. It might be just the thing for certain uses. The #4 in your picture looks extra wide compared to the other two planes. Might it be a 4 1/2 or is it a camera effect? 4 1/2's are great to use.

Thanks, It's just the photo It is just a standard no 4.

I have another No 4 a 9 1/4, and a Winchester 3010 (no5 equivalent) that I use now. I restored those in various ways. A few weeks ago I also picked up a different No 5 that I'm currently refurbishing.

I would love to make up a set of just the Winchesters as that is the first one I ever had but they are more expensive and harder to find.

 

[crguy]

Thanks, It's just the photo It is just a standard no 4.

I have another No 4 a 9 1/4, and a Winchester 3010 (no5 equivalent) that I use now. I restored those in various ways. A few weeks ago I also picked up a different No 5 that I'm currently refurbishing.

I would love to make up a set of just the Winchesters as that is the first one I ever had but they are more expensive and harder to find.

Winchester planes don't bring much of a premium these days.

 

[chenry318]

Winchester planes don't bring much of a premium these days.

I paid $10 for my 3010 which I thought was fair given the condition. The 3005, 3015, and 3020's I've seen sell on ebay typically run $45-$150 which to me seems high.

 

[d.mcfarland]

Do other Winchester tools have a premium? I have some pliers and never really knew much about them.

 

[chenry318]

I'm not sure, to me it seemed that people who collect Winchester items also compete for the tools but that's just my thought. I haven't actively searched for winchester items other than the occasional search for hand planes.

 

[WisJim]

It's been awhile, but I have always gotten a premium price for Winchester tools, better than Keen Kutter. They appeal to tool collectors and gun collectors, I suspect. Same thing with Ruger drills and Yankee-style screwdrivers.

 

[RTM]

Back when I used to watch plane prices, Winchester drew a premium over Stanley and Keen Kutter, just for the name. No idea if they are a better tool.

And yes, the Winchester collectors go nuts for any tool.

 

[chenry318]

From what I found the 3XXX series were made by Sargent but some of the W-X series Winchesters are the Stanley Bedrock models.

 

[RTM]

Hey gang

Over on the wood screwdriver thread, I was asked about the screwdrivers for the #45 plane. I posted what I could dig up over there, message #140 if the link breaks.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8981690&postcount=140

 

[CRSINMICH]

RTM: Coincidentally, I read your post this morning just before I went into my shop to dig out my #45. Here is the screwdriver that came in the box with it. Based on your post on the wood screwdriver thread, what Type would you say this is? I'm guessing Type 11. That time period seems to fit with the age of my plane. (The black splotches are not residual paint just some gunky schmutz.)

 

[RTM]

Looks like a type 4 to 11 to me.

Good to see the taper is round, I have one that has flats on the taper, left him out of the group shot

 

[tchigh79]

I come across this plane and have no ideal who made it . I can't make out the writing on the plane. Any help?

 

[CRSINMICH]

tchigh:It looks like a spokeshave but I'm not certain that it is. I can't make out the name either but it is a nice script.

 

[RTM]

Might be a coopers shave, how big is it. I will check my book later. The Spokeshave Book by Tom Lamond. A great resource, but a slow read

I see a first letter of H and ending in NG, anyone else have clues?

And this is why I ask for help, my guessing is often wrong. Apparently it’s Hynson’s, a keg or coopers shave.

 

[kenc184]

My Stanley Bedrock type 6 collection. Every model. OK, the 605-1/4 is not a type 6 since the 1/4 didn't exist in that era, and the 602 is a type 7 but I tried.

 

[tchigh79]

I'm sure it is a Hynson after looking at the signature. I was trying to put a Y on the end. I can't find any listed anywhere. Is there any value to it? Thanks so much for your help, your the greatest!!!
It measures 16 inches to the end of handles and has a 2.5 inch blade on it.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Good stuff RTM!

Kenc I know I'm green with envy. Did Stanley make a 601?

 

[kenc184]

Good stuff RTM!

Kenc I know I'm green with envy. Did Stanley make a 601?

No, they never did, but I believe someone did - Patrick Leach perhaps? a few years back.

 

[RTM]

Yes, it was Leach

http://www.supertool.com/601.htm