Show Your Heritage Logo Love

[Patrick Eubanks]

No I didn’t mean earlier. The circle h transitioned into =v=. The later circle h sockets began appearing with the wings

 

[Cruzan80]

Yes, which =V= is solidly into the Heritage era. The "later" part of Heritage would be from =V= transitioning into -V-, and going to crown top.

Long C transitioned out during the later 40's to early 50's. Heritage started the same time, and slowly transitioned to Crown top in the 60's-70's.

(H) Stuff was made by New Britain, which stopped making stuff for Sears about 1950. It was replaced by =V=, made by Moore Drop Forge.

So any way you look at it, the late 40's was the beginning of the Heritage era, and the end of (H). Not the "later" part of the era (60-70's). The only part of the logo that was "wing-less" was the rolling toolboxes...

Unless you meant the later part of the (H) "era", which I would agree is in the late 40's. But not sure what you mean by "wing-less" in this case, as we have shown sockets with =(H)= markings. Earlier (H) sockets didn't show this, as they mimicked the Long C logo, which was different. The "wings" were added in the late 40's, presumably to correlate with the new badges (Long C being an oval).

I guess my confusion is around what you mean by "era". I would think it is the "Heritage" era, as the title of the thread. Socket markings don't usually jump out to me as an "era".

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

Yes, which =V= is solidly into the Heritage era. The "later" part of Heritage would be from =V= transitioning into -V-, and going to crown top.

Long C transitioned out during the later 40's to early 50's. Heritage started the same time, and slowly transitioned to Crown top in the 60's-70's.

(H) Stuff was made by New Britain, which stopped making stuff for Sears about 1950. It was replaced by =V=, made by Moore Drop Forge.

So any way you look at it, the late 40's was the beginning of the Heritage era, and the end of (H). Not the "later" part of the era (60-70's). The only part of the logo that was "wing-less" was the rolling toolboxes...

Unless you meant the later part of the (H) "era", which I would agree is in the late 40's. But not sure what you mean by "wing-less" in this case, as we have shown sockets with =(H)= markings. Earlier (H) sockets didn't show this, as they mimicked the Long C logo, which was different. The "wings" were added in the late 40's, presumably to correlate with the new badges (Long C being an oval).

I guess my confusion is around what you mean by "era". I would think it is the "Heritage" era, as the title of the thread. Socket markings don't usually jump out to me as an "era".

When I said era I was referring to 40s. And I forgot to mention circle u

 

[Cruzan80]

Gotcha. I would have called that a decade, not an era. In fairness, there was a World War going on for half the decade, and I am sure Sears was buying whatever it could, from people who could sell to civilians.

Pot-war economics was a very weird place, as all of the infrastructure building during the war led to an absolute glut of stuff after it ended (one of the reasons the govt shifted how they handled war surplus for Korea/Vietnam and further). So I agree it was a wierd time, where Sears were trying to establish a longer-running "theme" and figuring out who they wanted to work with moving forward. However, (H) was not unique in this, as (IIRC) New Britain still was making the BE into the early 40's.

 

[d42jeep]

Let’s talk about transitional Craftsman tools. I have a couple of drawers that I stash them in when I run across them. Here are some pictures of different ones. These look like early =v= right down to the pointed A but have no code.
DOEs
DBE wrenches
A couple of N4 DOE wrenches
Some wrenches with V casting marks
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Who made these?
Here are -v- wrenches without part numbers. There is thought that the smallest wrenches were too small to have the =v= fit but that doesn’t really explain the larger ones.
-Don

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well I couldnt resist the call of the sirens today. This saw had been listed in an agricultural town about 1/2 hour away from me. It's another 8" saw and I was less than stoked at first. It had a ton of accessories shown in the pictures but today when I went back to look at the photos again I accidently bumped one of the photos and turns out it was a video. Well, it pays to watch until the end of the video because when I saw that it included the era correct articulating tool light, I had to hop on it! Paid $40 but it will tide me over until I find a nice 10" power bronze to match my heritage power bronze dp. Motor is dated L2 53 and based on the colors and other things on the saw I certainly dont doubt this is probably the original set up! The seller said he got it from his father who got it from a family member

Model 103.22160

Includes both wings
optional blade guard- specific only to this size of 80 series saw
square tool stand with roller wheels
owners manual
sanding disks
fence and miter gauge
dado stack
power panl
moulding blade

All in all I'm pretty excited ! It will get some love and get put to work! ( I have posted more phots in the vintage craftsman table saw thread)

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Nice haul Smokes. Always nice to find a set up like that. Obviously well-used and well-cared for. Nice 3/4 hp motor!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice haul Smokes. Always nice to find a set up like that. Obviously well-used and well-cared for. Nice 3/4 hp motor!

Thanks! It’s nice to find a power tool that is nearly plug and play! It’s not as big as I would have liked but hey, I basically paid $40 for all those accessories so that’s a huge win in my book! I’m going to give it a little love and put it to work.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Speaking of my recent pickup, of course in my nerdiness I had to find the power tool catalog from that year because of course, reading the 1955 catalog I already have isn’t the same . I found this one on eBay and look what’s on the cover! The exact same saw with a lot of the same accessories! I wonder if my saw was one put together at the store to mimic the cover as a floor display model?

 

[Zrxrunner]

Nice find! Factory option switch is worth the $40! Here's my find for the day. Bout the only big tool left at the estate sale on half price morning. PO ran the belt out of adjustment for a while, so has some belt marks into the guides. Little blasphemous, being powered by a Powr-Kraft, but purrs like a kitten, and for $22.50, couldn't say no!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice find! Factory option switch is worth the $40! Here's my find for the day. Bout the only big tool left at the estate sale on half price morning. PO ran the belt out of adjustment for a while, so has some belt marks into the guides. Little blasphemous, being powered by a Powr-Kraft, but purrs like a kitten, and for $22.50, couldn't say no!

Ohhhh! Thats a great find for $22.50! Cant believe that was still there.

 

[A E Numan]

This is what I have been working on for some time now.

 

[Cruzan80]

Very nice! I would love to find one around here, but not willing to pay the prices I see them going for occasionally.

 

[Smokeshow69]

This is what I have been working on for some time now.

Nice work Doug!

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

This is what I have been working on for some time now.

Looking good

 

[Madc]

Looks great, I've sort of working on filling a mechanics as well as the carpenter's version. Great Job!

MADC

 

[twistedstang]

I had a pretty good first month of collecting vintage Craftsman stuff. A couple weeks ago I scored the drill press. The following week I picked up a 50s 1/4 horse grinder and a 1/3 horse grinder both with the King Seeley pedestal. Yesterday the drill index came in the mail and today my machinest box arrived. Im going to let the collection cool off for a few weeks before I get too carried away.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Oh! That drill index is really cool! Nice find. And that is this “cool off” you speak of? It should be full speed ahead!

 

[twistedstang]

Oh! That drill index is really cool! Nice find. And that is this “cool off” you speak of? It should be full speed ahead!

Maybe its my wife that needs a cool off period. Lol.

 

[Jim C.]

This is what I have been working on for some time now.

I finished the set a couple years ago relying on the 1954 Craftsman catalog as my guide. I also had some input from several members here regarding the era correct tools to include and received some of those tools from the same members. (See photo below) It’s a nice set. Good job putting your set together.

Jim C.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I finished the set a couple years ago relying on the 1954 Craftsman catalog as my guide. I also had some input from several members here regarding the era correct tools to include and received some of those tools from the same members. (See photo below) It’s a nice set. Good job putting your set together.

Jim C.

Dang I want to find one of these wall cabinets now. You people are a poor influence, but then again, that’s why I hang out in these seedy parts

 

[Cruzan80]

Be aware, the last time I looked (few years ago), I was finding them for about $250+, empty. The mechanics versions tend to command a higher price than the carpenter versions (and of course getting them shipped is a pain).

 

[d42jeep]

Here is Honza’s chest from back in 2019.
-Don

Thanks to d42jeep I was able to fill in couple more pieces. Thanks!

 

[honza.vosalik]

Here is Honza’s chest from back in 2019.
-Don

I ended up selling it after moving to a new house after it was sitting on the garage floor for two years. I have s different setup at the new house and after two years I figured let someone else enjoy it.
Having said that I transported it 2000miles while I was moving houses, lol.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Be aware, the last time I looked (few years ago), I was finding them for about $250+, empty. The mechanics versions tend to command a higher price than the carpenter versions (and of course getting them shipped is a pain).

Oh for sure. Shipping is not friendly on these. I just need to find one through my local collector peeps. I know people who find things

 

[motorick]

Didn't really associate this thread with the era of Craftsman I love... have a lot of reading to do to catch up! Here's my find from yesterday.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Didn't really associate this thread with the era of Craftsman I love... have a lot of reading to do to catch up! Here's my find from yesterday.

Excellent find like I said yesterday. I checked out your location and that’s probably why you got it. If you were up north here it would have been gone pretty quick! Where did you find it?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Speaking of finds I found this cool heritage holder. I didn’t know they existed but here it is. Now to get it mounted on the wall

 

[motorick]

Excellent find like I said yesterday. I checked out your location and that’s probably why you got it. If you were up north here it would have been gone pretty quick! Where did you find it?

Hey Smoke, found it on FB Marketplace about 1 month ago. Seller started at $385 (!!!) and reduced to $325. Probably overpaid at $250, but every other box set was similarly priced for HF / HD / newer Craftsman. Any advise on how to remove the drawers?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Hey Smoke, found it on FB Marketplace about 1 month ago. Seller started at $385 (!!!) and reduced to $325. Probably overpaid at $250, but every other box set was similarly priced for HF / HD / newer Craftsman. Any advise on how to remove the drawers?

I don’t think you overpaid. I don’t think you under paid either but given it’s condition, I think you did well! I don’t actually have one of those boxes but am working on its smaller brother this weekend. Let me see what I can find out on how to get the drawers out

 

[Cruzan80]

Speaking of finds I found this cool heritage holder. I didn’t know they existed but here it is. Now to get it mounted on the wall

Spray paint? Guessing you think it is factory vs user-made?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Spray paint? Guessing you think it is factory vs user-made?

Here is a better picture. The first one I posted made it look super washed out due to the lighting

 

[Smokeshow69]

In full disclosure to my can holder- I actually made it. Just was trying to see if it fooled anyone before I admitted my trickery. Of course Cruzan 80 smelt a fish thanks to my bad picture I received the holder last year in bare steel and hadnt done anything with it. So I figured, why not make a what if item?? I painted it with the heritage/crown era hammered paint, roughed up the paint slightly to look aged and put a good heritage badge on it. I made sure to keep the vintage rivets just to make it look more legit. Badge is held on with very thin automotive emblem 3m tape. I know it wont fool the really knowledgeable guys but it sure looks pretty good in person and I had fun making it

 

[Cruzan80]

Sorry, wasn't trying to ruin anything...

What threw me in general is the idea of holders like that during this era, especially for spray paint. If it had a Duralast label, and held oil cans, I would have had to search it up before questioning. I was trying to ask what it held, not if it was spray painted (my first post was a bit unclear on that).

Overall, it does look nice, and helps the overall theme. One thing I have been debating on putting together is a set of blotter/pad corners, with the Long C, Heritage, Crowntop and possibly rectangular Sears|Craftsman, and see how many people think they were sold as a collectible "set". May work better if I laser engraved the wavy Craftsman logo (never seen that as a standalone badge).

 

[motorick]

The definition of a smoke show... love it though and sign me as customer 1 when you go to production : )

 

[d42jeep]

In full disclosure to my can holder- I actually made it. Just was trying to see if it fooled anyone before I admitted my trickery. Of course Cruzan 80 smelt a fish thanks to my bad picture I received the holder last year in bare steel and hadnt done anything with it. So I figured, why not make a what if item?? I painted it with the heritage/crown era hammered paint, roughed up the paint slightly to look aged and put a good heritage badge on it. I made sure to keep the vintage rivets just to make it look more legit. Badge is held on with very thin automotive emblem 3m tape. I know it wont fool the really knowledgeable guys but it sure looks pretty good in person and I had fun making it

One of these would look good in that holder.
-Don

 

[Smokeshow69]

One of these would look good in that holder.
-Don

Yeah it would! Hopefully I can find one soon!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Sorry, wasn't trying to ruin anything...

What threw me in general is the idea of holders like that during this era, especially for spray paint. If it had a Duralast label, and held oil cans, I would have had to search it up before questioning. I was trying to ask what it held, not if it was spray painted (my first post was a bit unclear on that).

Overall, it does look nice, and helps the overall theme. One thing I have been debating on putting together is a set of blotter/pad corners, with the Long C, Heritage, Crowntop and possibly rectangular Sears|Craftsman, and see how many people think they were sold as a collectible "set". May work better if I laser engraved the wavy Craftsman logo (never seen that as a standalone badge).

You didnt ruin anything I threw it out there not all that serious to see if it passed the smell test which it didnt Still was super fun to make and got my creative juices flowing for sure!

 

[Old Radar]

In full disclosure to my can holder- I actually made it.

Nice job, Smoke. I'm a little late to the game, but what threw me at first glance was the position of the mounting holes. You would have to mount it logo-side to the wall or lose use of two can holes--and Sears would never condone hiding their logo.