Show your "Long C" Craftsman!

[Patrick Eubanks]

Thanks so much guys. Don I think temp was my problem. Air conditioned garage probably hurt me. I’ll reboot

 

[TexTJ209]

Is that cardboard the uncommon insert with the ignition tools wires to it?

Yep! So that paint has been protected for near 90 years, so it's about as original as you could hope to see. These ignition tool boxes definitely have a different finish to them than the standard little boxes with the wrinkle finish. I've got two, and both have this same alligator-ish finish to them.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Yep! So that paint has been protected for near 90 years, so it's about as original as you could hope to see. These ignition tool boxes definitely have a different finish to them than the standard little boxes with the wrinkle finish. I've got two, and both have this same alligator-ish finish to them.

Ok that’s odd that both ignition sets have the alligator finish. Wonder why they didn’t just use the conventional wrinkle finish paint? But I have seen some craftsman boxes from that era with a semi gloss non wrinkle original paint so it’s anyone’s guess at this point.

 

[TexTJ209]

Ok that’s odd that both ignition sets have the alligator finish. Wonder why they didn’t just use the conventional wrinkle finish paint? But I have seen some craftsman boxes from that era with a semi gloss non wrinkle original paint so it’s anyone’s guess at this point.

I wondered that myself. The constructions seems similar enough between the different box types to where I can't imagine they came from a different vendor. Maybe since a lot of this stuff was new in the mid 30s they were trying a few different finishes to see what stuck until they settled on the wrinkle paint for everything. Some things we may never know...

 

[GBH1953]

long

 

[Smokeshow69]

^^^ very nice long c roller! Not often found, especially with the metal tag.

 

[Outlawmws]

That roller has been repainted, but otherwise the same as the roller I have, including the metal badge

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks so much guys. Don I think temp was my problem. Air conditioned garage probably hurt me. I’ll reboot

Patrick- I have seen some of your collections on fb. You have really great stuff. If you want to post them on here I know the guys would appreciate looking at them. I like how you display items and sets

 

[alinc100]

Patrick- I have seen some of your collections on fb. You have really great stuff. If you want to post them on here I know the guys would appreciate looking at them. I like how you display items and sets

If I gotta see his collection again just like FB...it's like rubbing salt into the wounds..LOL

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

Nit sure if it’s the right logo but here it is, it’s a holding screwdriver that’s in pretty good shape. I also have a HUGE flat head, it’s really nice for changing tires on my garden tractors. Who made this style of screwdriver for craftsman?

 

[rustyedge1]

These two were floating around in my tool box, one has the CI marking the other I can't find anything.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

So I was pawing through a miscellaneous mess of knives, pen knives, novelty knives, etc, strewn around in a carboard box lid on a table at the flea this morning when I found a GMTK electrician's knife made by PAL. I paid for it and I was half walking away from the table when I spotted this cutey-pie.



Flipped it over and my heart 'bout near leapt out of my chest.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

@Catfishdan posted one on page 71 (post #2,803) and a few posts later @JoCoSawdust said he has one, too, somewhere, but he hasn't posted it that I recall. I'm not aware of any others or they've been posted without the term "key knife."

 

[Outlawmws]

Flipped it over and my heart 'bout near leapt out of my chest.

yep, that would have been me!

@Catfishdan posted one on page 71 (post #2,803) and a few posts later @JoCoSawdust said he has one, too, somewhere

I'm surprised "I have no recollection of this place..."

 

[Smokeshow69]

So I was pawing through a miscellaneous mess of knives, pen knives, novelty knives, etc, strewn around in a carboard box lid on a table at the flea this morning when I found a GMTK electrician's knife made by PAL. I paid for it and I was half walking away from the table when I spotted this cutey-pie.



Flipped it over and my heart 'bout near leapt out of my chest.

Thats super cool! I had no idea they marketed this. I have a feeling this would do well on the big auction site?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I found one in an old tackle box. Don’t think I ever took a picture of it. Nice find Lugz.

 

[Outlawmws]

Don’t think I ever took a picture of it

 

[Arne73]

As an aside to the great crinkle debate, I've also got two mid 30s era Craftsman boxes, both ignition sets, that have this interesting alligator-skin esque texture to them. Kinda similar to the crazing on a bad paint job.

That surface looks like paint failure rather than an intentional surface texture. Possibly a second coat at the time of manufacture to salvage a mistake?

 

[alinc100]

One sale this week netted this group of Circle H sockets,extensions and drive tools. All the ratchets were sold ,but they left the rest behind?

 

[Smokeshow69]

One sale this week netted this group of Circle H sockets,extensions and drive tools. All the ratchets were sold ,but they left the rest behind?

The ratchets are usually the easiest part of all that to find. Nice job!

 

[d42jeep]

That surface looks like paint failure rather than an intentional surface texture. Possibly a second coat at the time of manufacture to salvage a mistake?

That finish was regularly used by S-K on many prewar boxes and even a few postwar boxes before a gradual transition to wrinkle finish. Here are some examples.
-Don

 

[TexTJ209]

That finish was regularly used by S-K on many prewar boxes and even a few postwar boxes before a gradual transition to wrinkle finish. Here are some examples.
-Don

Any photos of an equivalent era SK ignition set? Might be a good indicator on who the OEM was for these ignition sets.

 

[d42jeep]

I have never seen an early S-K ignition set.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Picked this up at the flea this morning if only because of the odd, extraordinarily skinny and sharply rectangular capital "C", which I had never seen before.

A quick search revealed it as a fairly common oxy-acetylene tank wrench.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

On the Garage Sale thread, Andy said this of the welding kit wrench...

These come up about once a week on a Facebook Group...[ ]...and the consensus is the same wrench was used from mid-30's til they ran out of stock in the late 50's early 60's.

I found that interesting, but I didn't want to side-track the thread, so I will comment here.

If the consensus is saying that Sears, Roebuck & Co. ordered the manufacture of so many oxy-acetylene kit wrenches in the 30's that they didn't have to make them in the 40's, 50's, and early 60's to sell them in the 40's, 50's, and 60's, I would find that odd, because that's an enormous surplus of wrenches. But the wrench and the marking certainly look 30's.

If the consensus is saying that they kept making the wrench in the 40's, 50's and 60's using the same dies from the 30's, I would also find that odd, and be skeptical without proof.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

The tappet wrenches were like that as well. I think joco or someone posted an ad

 

[alinc100]

Some quick further digging and Lugz is correct .The font does change . My apologies. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/vintage-craftsman-wrench-identification.487328/

 

[alinc100]

First I've found is 1931 ,of course no logo/font in the illustration:

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Some quick further digging and Lugz is correct .The font does change . My apologies. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/vintage-craftsman-wrench-identification.487328/

Nothing to apologize for. Mine is a little different than those, but they are all Long C markings. I'm still trying to figure out what the consensus is. I find it hard to believe either one. But I'm not losing sleep over it.

 

[alinc100]

1934:

 

[alinc100]

1937:

 

[alinc100]

Nothing to apologize for. Mine is a little different than those, but they are all Long C markings. I'm still trying to figure out what the consensus is. I find it hard to believe either one. But I'm not losing sleep over it.

I don't think the consensus realized the fonts changed. Yours certainly looks older than most I have seen in photos. I'm still scrolling through catalogs. Here is one discussion that puts it early mid 30's https://www.facebook.com/groups/314339225358433/permalink/5653584404767195/ and another ,this is the reason I now say the consensus,including me,hence the apology, did not realize the font changed over time. https://www.facebook.com/groups/314339225358433/permalink/4337584833033832/

 

[TexTJ209]

The Long C font continued well into the 50s on a ton of different items. The printing on these did change around a bit, but I'm sure of the exact ranges.

For reference, here's my 1954ish torch kit with Long C items aplenty.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, Tex.

I'm kind of digging the right angle C on mine.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I’ve got a near/NOS gas set, gauges stamped 1952, with the Long C wrench. They were either surplus or the same casting. In fact, aside from the Heritage logo on the gauge faces, the ancillary items are all Long C.

 

[Smokeshow69]

The Long C font continued well into the 50s on a ton of different items. The printing on these did change around a bit, but I'm sure of the exact ranges.

For reference, here's my 1954ish torch kit with Long C items aplenty.

Such a nice set! Things in a cardboard box of this age really peak my interest! So cool!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked up this small hammer today! With original handle, although its owner marked. Is this a 4oz?

 

[d42jeep]

Usually the length of the head is 2-1/2” to 2-5/8” and the overall weight with handle is in the neighborhood of 6 Oz for a 4 Oz ball pein. Your handle looks unusually long so maybe a little heavier.
-Don

 

[Outlawmws]

Is this a 4oz

Any numbers on it?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Usually the length of the head is 2-1/2” to 2-5/8” and the overall weight with handle is in the neighborhood of 6 Oz for a 4 Oz ball pein. Your handle looks unusually long so maybe a little heavier.
-Don

Any numbers on it?

I’m going to clean it up and see if I can find anything. It’s a little rusty but not bad. Most of the blue paint is still present on the head so that’s nice