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wrenchguy

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I brought home a couple more long-C screwdrivers yesterday, along with a wavy logo framing square. The fifteen incher is the longest one I've found. It had a lot more paint on it, but I chipped most of it off. Based on the condition of the tip, it's had a lot of odd jobs in its lifetime.

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The square has two patent dates on it, so I looked those up. One from 1900 and the other from 1914.



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It's in pretty good shape for its age, which may be due to the fact that it's copper plated. I keep an eye out for squares that taper in thickness, because that detail is used on the nicer examples. The thick part at the corner measures .165" and the end of the long leg is .080"; putting the strength where it's needed and saving weight where it's not.

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I try to be fussy about which framing squares I bring home because they're adding up, but I did not hesitate to buy this on. I get a kick out of that logo.

Tom
Wondering if craftsman offered a 24"x18" framing square? It would take some research of the earliest cm catalogs.
 
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Stubby1743

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I don't see a lot of Craftsman of any age here in the UK. I do like the older series though. Here are the only three BE series pieces that I have.

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1/4" drive 1/4" double square, 1/2" drive 3/4" and 3/8" drive 3" extension.
 

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Which one of you guys beat me to that BE fitmor sets on eBay yesterday? That was a steal. By the time my buy it now button transitioned to the car it was already out of stock
 

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Check out this rachet found today at an estate sale. Long faced New Britain made I’m assuming. I thought it was a BE but after closer inspection I found it not to be the case. I was hoping one of you could offer some insight. Maybee Gear Wolf will chime in.
 

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Check out this rachet found today at an estate sale. Long faced New Britain made I’m assuming. I thought it was a BE but after closer inspection I found it not to be the case. I was hoping one of you could offer some insight. Maybee Gear Wolf will chime in.
Patrick that’s a really interesting ratchet! I’m not very well versed on the long heads but I’m hoping one of the more well educated guys on here can answer your question. I think it’s New Britain but don’t quote me.
 

3baygarage

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Check out this rachet found today at an estate sale. Long faced New Britain made I’m assuming. I thought it was a BE but after closer inspection I found it not to be the case. I was hoping one of you could offer some insight. Maybee Gear Wolf will chime in.
Nice find. The interesting thing is yours doesn’t say Craftsman on it. There’s a Craftsman BE marked example at Alloy Artifacts. Still don’t have a working example myself!
 

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Rediscovered this box in my collection and wondered why it kept. Opened it to realize it was a Long C box and a little cleaning (probably was completely submerged in grease) to reveal it was blue. Remembered this thread so did a bit of quick research.

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Page 13 #511 @Outlawmws posted a 17-pc 1/2” drive socket which supported my guess of what it originally went to. Now the question is, how can I determine which sockets would have gone with that set? Might be fun to try to out it back together.

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Would there be a special number or letter on each socket? What sizes to start and end with? These look like 12point in the pic but did a 6point also come with the same box?

@d42jeep posted in #711 that he found a BE partial set, is that the same box? Or could it also have been a Circle H? If it is a BE set, then I do have a 4" extension head start, but it doesn't look like the pic with Craftsman written on the side. The catalog picture looks kinda like a circle H set?
 

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That box likely could have come with either BE or Circle H (or other) tools. Other than the actual BE or Circle H markings the tools themselves are very similar in appearance, both having been made for Sears by New Britain. You could check various years of long C Craftsman catalogs and pick a set to match. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the artists depiction of the tools in the catalogs. They are generally quite inaccurate.
-Don
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Got a bit of Long C stuff cleaned up. Actually went to a sale today that had one of those Vanadium squares and like an idiot I left it there...tempted to go back tomorrow!

For whatever reason I really dig the side cutters. The tappet wrench is ok I guess :ROFLMAO:
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A bunch of Circle H and BE stuff, the top sockets are Circle U...getting closer to a set! Although three of them might be the same size...hope not. The Circle H breaker is in really nice shape, the joint is nice and tight and it's just a formidable chunk of metal!

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Patrick Eubanks

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Rediscovered this box in my collection and wondered why it kept. Opened it to realize it was a Long C box and a little cleaning (probably was completely submerged in grease) to reveal it was blue. Remembered this thread so did a bit of quick research.

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Page 13 #511 @Outlawmws posted a 17-pc 1/2” drive socket which supported my guess of what it originally went to. Now the question is, how can I determine which sockets would have gone with that set? Might be fun to try to out it back together.

Long C socket sets 2 -1942.JPG
Would there be a special number or letter on each socket? What sizes to start and end with? These look like 12point in the pic but did a 6point also come with the same box?

@d42jeep posted in #711 that he found a BE partial set, is that the same box? Or could it also have been a Circle H? If it is a BE set, then I do have a 4" extension head start, but it doesn't look like the pic with Craftsman written on the side. The catalog picture looks kinda like a circle H set?
Absolutely put it together. Fun stuff
 

Patrick Eubanks

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Got a bit of Long C stuff cleaned up. Actually went to a sale today that had one of those Vanadium squares and like an idiot I left it there...tempted to go back tomorrow!

For whatever reason I really dig the side cutters. The tappet wrench is ok I guess :ROFLMAO:
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A bunch of Circle H and BE stuff, the top sockets are Circle U...getting closer to a set! Although three of them might be the same size...hope not. The Circle H breaker is in really nice shape, the joint is nice and tight and it's just a formidable chunk of metal!

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The tappet wrench is a good one. One of the eary wrenches produced by Duro. Not super hard to find but definately one of the more uncommon eary models. Im a wrench nerd so of course I like it.
 

Patrick Eubanks

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Would have to be pretty early!
A friend and I were just discussing that. I know I have a lot of weird stuff from the late 20s and early 30s when they were experimenting with the logo. I think it’s the vanadium moniker that’s throwing me. All that aside I love it. He was showing me a recent box purchase he made with a c set. Looks legit to me but the box is one I have never seen. It amazes me that no matter how long you have collected, something pops up weekly the you have never seen.
 

Patrick Eubanks

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Things were moving fast back then!
Check out this box. Notice the length of the box. All my handy boxes have a socket shelf that extends from one side to the other. The only craftsman box I have seen where the socket tray stops short is the 3/4 BM set made by Brazil. This box is obviously too small for a 3/4 set. What’s you guys opinion.
 

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Smokeshow69

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Ok here is one for everyone to chew on. Received this in the mail today. I personally have never seen this set or even this logo. Have any of you tool guys ever seen this set? It’s now one of my favorites
Super cool punch set. I’ve never seen this particular logo/ clip before but that doesn’t surprise me at all. Artistic license played quite a big factor back then.
 
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