Show your "Long C" Craftsman!

[d42jeep]

I found some long C wood chisels today at a sale.
-Don

 

[MortiseNTenon]

I also have a mohawk drill press, but the decal on mine is pretty crusty.

There is a long C drill press on Craigslist locally for $125.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/tls/d/huge-power-tools-lot-no-china/6398872502.html

I found this grinder on CL and couldn't pass it up for $10. No regrets, although that makes grinder number five : D

Probably. But it would be so perfect on a little funky Craftsman-style house - pun intended.

These really don't belong in this thread, only posting for comparative purposes. Here's how my auger bits are marked (see thumbnail 1) - which definitely looks 50's. Yet the case has a geometric C (see thumbnail 2) - teasing at 40's.

I also have a mohawk drill press, but the decal on mine is pretty crusty.

There is a long C drill press on Craigslist locally for $125.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/tls/d/huge-power-tools-lot-no-china/6398872502.html

I found this grinder on CL and couldn't pass it up for $10. No regrets, although that makes grinder number five : D

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I found some long C wood chisels today at a sale.
-Don

WrenchGuy and I were discussing this, and I know we have threads like this for the Heritage and Crown marked tools, which are mostly power tools and boxes, (the tools generally having =V= or -V- markings...) but we were unable to find one for the older "Long C" Craftsman tools.

Backgrond:

Most of the "Long C" marked tools were from the early thirties (about 1933 based on catalog evidence), and mostly ended by late 40's, but there were still a few so marked going into the early 50's or so.

For this thread any tools from this era are OK to post. However please post Crown and Heritage (red oval) tools in their respective threads.

For the "Long C" markings, the key is the full or partial underline extending from the front "C"; but there were also some markings that omitted the underline, or it was just a tiny half letter width long, but the Letter styling was also distinctive, with an angular font:

EDIT: I guess for clarification showing some of the variants: No underline just the geometric type font, a short one letter variant on the crescent, the half underline adn the full:

Note the geometric angles on the C, R, A the S. This is often much more sharply defined than on this example, which was picked to show a "short" Long C...

What started me down this path?

I personally have long collected the Long C tools starting with a 1/2" drive socket set that took me about 30 years to complete, one socket at a time. When I first set them aside I had four total IIR, and simply added as I ran across them at fleas, and yard and estate sales. This was also my very first stab at "collecting" a tool, rather than buying users!

I acquired other Long C's of course, and only after I completed the last socket (The 3/4" seemed to evade me for ages - I finally traded for it here on GJ!), did I find a complete boxed set a couple of years ago with not only the 1/2" set, but 3/8's and all the ratchets and extensions as well (Ratchets also evaded me for YEARS). As many find, you only find them lot AFTER you find that elusive first one!


This is the set today, and has all the sizes from 7/16 to 1-1/16

I eventually went after the period correct boxes for the tools... And this is the roller of the stack I have (the top is somewhat buried) and a sampling of what is in the three drawers of the roller. I have MANY more Long C tools, but got to leave some for later, (and don't have time to fully photo-document them)

I got the top box with the assistance of a an East coast GJ member, who bought and picked it up for me, then shipped it to me, (Fully paid for by me)

The roller was a local CL buy.

This box set has all of my early tools Sears sold in it (including Dunlap etc.) but no "Vee" series (that is another carry box..), and here are the contents of the three drawers of the roller, aerial shots:

There is at least one "None Better" (New Britain) ratchet that is the same as the Long C ratchets, (not surprising as they were the MFG for Sears then)

That blue box was a find with "junk" in it. I had three of the wrenches:

I'll post more pics, time permitting.

Feel Free to post your own "long C", or other period correct tools!

 

[MortiseNTenon]

Here’s my long C “Reedsman” dated 1/46.

 

[Username already in use]

What does the tip look like?

Looks unused to me.

 

[Outlawmws]

Beats me then.

 

[Gear Wolf]

Wowie! You guys have been kicking **** finding some really cool things! Great job lads! ^_^

 

[Gear Wolf]

Wow, this is beyond a weird reaction Ed??? I have bought stuff from you and I am friends with some of the most well known collectors on fb. I seem to have touched a nerve here? It’s not a big jump of inferences for me to think you bought that set since you have openly posted many of your purchases that you have procured over the past few years. I was just complementing you…. Not sure why you felt the need to act like this. Best of luck

-CIA- surveillance van #5

Smoke, you've done nothing wrong. At this point, some of us have been interfacing with, reading the forum posts of, or working directly together for years. After a while, you get a degree of ESP about another person's buying habits based on their interests. I am not surprised to see this response at all from this individual. I had a similar encounter with the same chap about 5 months ago.

I received an email about how I was being "cut out" over selling something that a particular someone wanted on eBay. The kicker was the item in question had literally zero commitment made before, during, or afterward. We had talked about months prior to the sale only generally about the item in question. To keep the peace, I actually went out of my way to cordially reach out, mentioned having more than one set of these pieces, and received no response. I was deleted from someone's life over their own confusion, despite a strong, positive, and protracted history with one another.

Plenty of people have questioned or assumed that I bought higher profile Craftsman ratchets on eBay or elsewhere now and back in the day, here at Garage Journal as well as other forums. Why? I'm the ratchet guy. It is a target I painted on myself, and I welcome it. Asking the ratchet guy if he bought a certain ratchet makes a degree of sense, right? ^_^

Heck, I even knowingly sold a 3/8" Craftsman Vanadium Ratchet earlier this year for literally 1/10 of its value. Folks here were aware of the acquisition, they asked me about it, I amicably responded, I used it for the purposes I need it for, and let our members here have a shot at owning the tool for absolutely no gain. With or without people being aware on the forum, I still would have taken the same course, if someone wanted it at Garage Journal. Sometimes you have to let others have a chance, and I feel a degree of camaraderie here. People help me at Garage Journal, I do the same.

Most folks are just looking to share in the excitement and celebrate another persons victories or interests. I have been ever grateful for the opportunity to learn, share with you guys, and raise my glass to you whether big or small. Some people don't feel that way. It is a shame. I've asked the very same questions you have years ago, without drama, and received the banal answers you'd come to expect: yes or no.

 

[wrenchguy]

Early 30's DP, mfg'd by walker turner. Hoping to find the missing parts.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Are you missing anything other than the return spring and housing?

 

[wrenchguy]

I don't know it well enough to know. Upper spindle cover? Never had 1.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

No upper spindle cover on that one. Those were specific to Atlas models. Interesting note on those: there’s two variants of that model. One has the word Craftsman running diagonally, the other runs horizontally. Two different head castings for a machine that had a very short run time. I’m traveling now but will message you some pics of mine when I get settled. You may be missing part of the motor mount. Don’t remember and will have to see pics of mine. Cool machine. Pain in the *** changing belts on it.

 

[DaveT]

Here’s my long C “Reedsman” dated 1/46.

That is an awesome vise MortiseNTenon

 

[Smokeshow69]

Smoke, you've done nothing wrong. At this point, some of us have been interfacing with, reading the forum posts of, or working directly together for years. After a while, you get a degree of ESP about another person's buying habits based on their interests. I am not surprised to see this response at all from this individual. I had a similar encounter with the same chap about 5 months ago.

I received an email about how I was being "cut out" over selling something that a particular someone wanted on eBay. The kicker was the item in question had literally zero commitment made before, during, or afterward. We had talked about months prior to the sale only generally about the item in question. To keep the peace, I actually went out of my way to cordially reach out, mentioned having more than one set of these pieces, and received no response. I was deleted from someone's life over their own confusion, despite a strong, positive, and protracted history with one another.

Plenty of people have questioned or assumed that I bought higher profile Craftsman ratchets on eBay or elsewhere now and back in the day, here at Garage Journal as well as other forums. Why? I'm the ratchet guy. It is a target I painted on myself, and I welcome it. Asking the ratchet guy if he bought a certain ratchet makes a degree of sense, right? ^_^

Heck, I even knowingly sold a 3/8" Craftsman Vanadium Ratchet earlier this year for literally 1/10 of its value. Folks here were aware of the acquisition, they asked me about it, I amicably responded, I used it for the purposes I need it for, and let our members here have a shot at owning the tool for absolutely no gain. With or without people being aware on the forum, I still would have taken the same course, if someone wanted it at Garage Journal. Sometimes you have to let others have a chance, and I feel a degree of camaraderie here. People help me at Garage Journal, I do the same.

Most folks are just looking to share in the excitement and celebrate another persons victories or interests. I have been ever grateful for the opportunity to learn, share with you guys, and raise my glass to you whether big or small. Some people don't feel that way. It is a shame. I've asked the very same questions you have years ago, without drama, and received the banal answers you'd come to expect: yes or no.

Thanks for the affirmation! I just truly didn’t understand the reaction or the reasoning? I was just trying to complement him, not berate or cross any lines. It is quite obvious that it is the same box given the wear marks. I wasn’t trying to call him out, just thought others may enjoy seeing the sticker . This hobby is about the enjoyment of tool collecting, and as long as that is the main motivation, I think we will get along fine. When other motivational factors creep in, there are bound to be ruffled feathers. I am sorry you had a bad interaction as well. I have had a few other well known folks comment to me that they have also had some unpleasant run ins as well. That is too bad.

 

[saukit]

Here are a few BE pieces: 1/2" T, 3/8 and 1/4 breakers, and little 1/4 extension. The quarter inch stuff was coated in some sort of goop (fluid film maybe?) and they're in really nice shape.

 

[d42jeep]

I finished cleaning up my long C finds from Friday’s estate sale. There wasn’t much I could do with the center punch owners marks.
-Don

 

[Cruzan80]

Don, if you need the 1 1/8-1 1/4, I think I have a spare, and it is even CI. I am about to go thru the piles of spares over winter break and start posting, so let me know if you need it.

 

[d42jeep]

Don, if you need the 1 1/8-1 1/4, I think I have a spare, and it is even CI. I am about to go thru the piles of spares over winter break and start posting, so let me know if you need it.

Thanks so much for the offer. I really appreciate it but except for early 1/4” drive sets, I’m not really much of a Craftsman collector. I’ll probably move these along to fund a secret upcoming Plomb project.
-Don

 

[Hoorn]

This motor was attached to a Delta Homecraft 10" bandsaw.

 

[Outlawmws]

That's a nice find!

 

[TexTJ209]

Super clean! I think that's the one of the nicest versions of the UL decal I've ever seen.

 

[Hoorn]

Thanks. The PO had built quite the enclosure for the motor, which is probably why it looks so good. When I took this picture I had not even wiped it down yet.

 

[Gear Wolf]

Nice find with that old motor!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

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Saw this on ebay

 

[Old Radar]

Well, the seller challenges anyone to "find another." If anyone can, it's bound to be someone here on GJ!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I only have hinsdale version. I don't think it would go for that kind of $.

 

[four.cycle]

^ looking at the asking prices on the seller's other items, it would appear that something is not quite right.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

It may be a new high! We will see if anyone bites.

 

[Outlawmws]

It may be a new high! We will see if anyone bites.This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available.

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Wow

 

[Thru-hika]

^ looking at the asking prices on the seller's other items, it would appear that something is not quite right.

What would make you think that? I have 100% feedback and have sold multiple $1000+ single tool items. Hopefully you don’t litter all of the GJ forums with baseless nonsense. Surely you have better things to do with your time.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

Wow

Holy Smokes Batman!…maybe it was the light on the table in the photos, but I felt like I fell through an Infinity Mirror into an alternate universe…

 

[d42jeep]

I found some long C wood chisels today at a sale.
-Don

On a less confrontational note, my buddy turned a walnut handle for the Craftsman chisel but is still working on a monkey wards one for me.-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thru-hika congratulations well sold!

 

[Smokeshow69]

On a less confrontational note, my buddy turned a walnut handle for the Craftsman chisel but is still working on a monkey wards one for me.-Don

Those handles look really nice Don! Your buddy really did well on those

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks, I can’t wait to see the next one on the Wards chisel.
I got tired of walking by this estate sale find Craftsman hammer that looked like it had been used as a paint stir stick so I gave it a cursory clean up. When I cleaned off the head I noticed the long C marking.
-Don

 

[Gear Wolf]

I only have hinsdale version. I don't think it would go for that kind of $.

Your Hinsdale branded example is quite rare. You'd think that pieces like yours and other pieces from that era (both variants of Vlchek's 1/2" WSSR10, Vlchek 3/8" WSRL6, and SK 40170 are easy examples) would be highly sought after and command significant money. Sadly, they don't.

 

[Gear Wolf]

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

I can tell you with 100% confidence that this piece, for now, did not sell to anyone.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Interesting info gw. I just assumed it had been sold.

 

[Thru-hika]

I can tell you with 100% confidence that this piece, for now, did not sell to anyone.

 

[Thru-hika]

GW<100% correct. He has no idea what may or may not have transpired. Sorry GW.