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Pharmanaut

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Hello Pharmanut and welcome to the site!

the closest thing I can find is in a 1938 catalog, but I am certainly no expert on Millers Falls.

there's a fairly good assortment of Millers Falls catalogs available for download at International Tool Catalog Library

there are others here more familiar with the line who will hopefully be able to help.
Hey 4Cycl 😃, apologies for the late reply. And thank you for pointing me to that wonderful resource. I'm a ****** for catalogues & the older, the better!
It's not just for the industrial history, there's a lot of social history that can be inferred from them too.
Ok! Wish me luck! I'm goin' in! 😆

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This was my Granddad's. There's no lettering on it but it looks right.
Did I read they're made in the colonies?
If so, this one's had quite a journey to England.
Lost a handle sadly...
Has anyone an idea of it's age? My Great Grandfather, granddad's dad, was a coach builder so it could well come from his trade in Sutton, Surrey.

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Welcome Pharmanaut! This might help, also: https://oldtoolheaven.com/millers-falls/hand_drills/drill.htm
 

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This was my Granddad's. There's no lettering on it but it looks right.
Did I read they're made in the colonies?
If so, this one's had quite a journey to England.
Lost a handle sadly...
Has anyone an idea of it's age? My Great Grandfather, granddad's dad, was a coach builder so it could well come from his trade in Sutton, Surrey.IMG_20231121_045821.jpgIMG_20231121_050451.jpg
That looks a MF #5 with a replacement top handle and a missing side. They made them for almost a 100 years, so narrowing the age isn't easy.
 

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Thank you, yes!
You know, I've been thinking... It seems about the right time for that little drill to have been caught up in "Lend / Lease".
Last payment of which was made on 29/12/2006 for the sum of $83 million! (Hope you didn't spend it all at once! 😆) That would explain it's journey. I can't think of another reason why you'd travel all that way with a little hand drill.
Hand powered drills would've been much more common in the 40s than electric ones and tools would've been part of the flow of goods and services bartered between troops and civilians as has happened since before 326 bce when a mum in what is now Pakistan said to her kid "Let me look at that fancy knife! Oh, there's a name on it... So, who's Alex, why have you got his knife and where's our pig?" 🐷🐘🐘🐘🗡️🇬🇷🇵🇰 🤔
 

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That looks a MF #5 with a replacement top handle and a missing side. They made them for almost a 100 years, so narrowing the age isn't easy.
Hi, erm... "That looks a MF #5 with a..." no need to swear mate! Oh! I see what you mean, my mistake 😆
I've been finding the same problem. The easiest difference I can see across the range and down through time is the curves on the spokes of the main gear.
But the problem with that is once you've got a nice master to cast from (I think one would've been made by lathe & the spokes using hand tools. That's a lot of work) just pushing it into moulding sand would wear it out so they'd be kept & used for donkey's years!
Which seems to be the case...
I taken this one apart, took a scrubbing brush & some washing up liquid to get all the old oil and dirt off. Taking care not to lose any more of that gorgeous red paint and put some modern grease on the gear teeth and a light coating of oil over everything else.
It looks and sounds much better.
It's a very useful device. For quick, small holes, pilot holes ect. it's perfect and that chuck moves like honey coated cat! Smooth as silk and it grips like sh... Ahem, mud to a blanket.
Modern chuck manufacturers could learn, or re-learn, a thing or two by examining what you say could be a 100 year old device!
Thanks for the No.5 detail. That's very handy, thank you.
I've a few old tools from his toolbag. There's no more MF stuff (you've got me with the bad effing & jeffing now!🤔) so this wouldn't be the place to post them.
Where would you post them? Maybe others would like to see some old British tools that aren't old enough to be noteworthy except for us tool nerds. Maybe turn of the century... Oh! ******, that means 2000 now! Around 1900 is my guess.
Thank you for the input.
Keep safe,
P ☮️
 

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Here are some of my McClellan braces, one with a Millers Falls chuck.McClellan braces.jpg
So I'm not the only one to love their chucks! 🤔
Plus, those breastplates atop those drills are exactly what even the little ones could do with.
On mine, I tracked down an old imperial bolt that fits the missing handle hole but I still need three hands to use it accurately. One to hold the top handle so it doesn't lean from the vertical, one to the side handle to stop it twisting & one to power the drill! ;o)
 
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I found this hacksaw missing the handle in the free pile at a tool sale today. I couldn’t make out the manufacturer until I got it home and cleaned it up a little. I think I will try to find a handle and fix it up. This model is in the ‘30s catalogs but was no longer included in the ‘55 catalog.
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Nah. I modified a file handle to hold the threaded insert but it was just a press fit in case I find a handle that I like better. IMG_1553.jpeg
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Back in the Union storage box.
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Restoring this now! Anyone know what number it might be?
 

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Restoring this now! Anyone know what number it might be?
Without dimensions, no.

But you can start here, and quickly poke about, starting by the cap style, and then add in if it had an adjustable mouth, and then size. Should only be 2 or three choices were all those criteria are close, then determine if high or low angle


But all mine are marked.
 

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Without dimensions, no.

But you can start here, and quickly poke about, starting by the cap style, and then add in if it had an adjustable mouth, and then size. Should only be 2 or three choices were all those criteria are close, then determine if high or low angle


But all mine are marked.
Thanks, You know, It was sold on eBay as a "Millers Falls"
I'm starting to think it's not a Millers Falls after all.
Just going to be a user, so no big deal.
 

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Today you would call this a multitool. I know many companies made similar products as this.
This one is just marked:
MILLERS FALLS Co.
MILLERS FALLS, MASS

on the other side it has PAT. JAN, 14th 1868. I seem to recall this date from another Millers Fall drill so it may be about the bit holder mechanism.

No model number. There is a small square with a O, P and SS in it (I think)., possibly quality control stamp?

I am pretty sure they made these for many years, but I do not know for how long or any changes to the design.

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Known in the catalogs as a Tool Holder. There is a thread here dedicated to them.

 

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I pulled this No. 300 hacksaw frame out of the Habitat scrap bin two weeks ago, thinking it was a cool design, but told myself I did not need another hacksaw and put it on the shelf for someone else to enjoy. I went back a week later and was surprise to see that it was still there and was tempted to buy it then, but I exercised restraint and left it again.

Yesterday, I decided it was worth owning for the fun of cleaning it up and I really do like the design. While shopping, I asked my friend (a piano tuner/repair person) if she owned a hacksaw and was surprised when she said no; so I promptly began explaining why she needs one and what was cool about this one. It was an easy sell. Ironically, I am a little envious now. :)

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Here is the (March 1951) patent information, which was applied for in 1947. Patent no. 2546660 was issued to George R Wilcox.


Here are his other patents.


The frame had a bit of surface rust and the handle was scuffed up, but the plastic buffed up nicely after a little bit of sanding and some steel wool on the frame got most of the rust, followed by a fine wire wheel on the drill press to get into the 'nooks and crannies.'

The lever action blade tensioner works really well. Before sending it off, I opened the lever and hung two blades on the pins with the pointing in, pointing out that this was "travel mode" to keep it from scratching other stuff up. I probably wouldn't go to the trouble of doing that, if it involved screwing around with a wing nut. I hope I find another one of these someday. :D
 

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Okay, same story. Same brand saw. Same friend. Same reasoning.

Last week I installed a house full of crown molding and enjoyed coping all the inside corners with my favorite Millers Falls No. 47 coping saw and then saw the same saw at the Habitat store the next day. I've got six other (inferior) saws to choose from, so I left the red handled saw for someone who needed one. It came home yesterday, got shined up a bit and went home with my friend.

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I'm guessing the one marked Millers Falls Mass. is older than the Greenfield Mass. saw. There's a faint logo decal on the underside of the red handle.

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Tom
 

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If the text from posts #350 and #351 was an SAT question and the multiple choice options were:

(a) The Habitat ReStore in Kingston, Wa. is a good place to buy saws.
(b) @Mintgrun is not an impulsive shopper.
(c) @Mintgrun is wooing a woman with tools instead of jewelry and chocolate.
(d) All of the above

What is your answer? :)
 
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I've been on the hunt for a Big soldering gun
This one is not the biggie that I am looking for......but, I couldn't leave this Millers Falls (Weller) behind
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I've been on the hunt for a Big soldering gun
This one is not the biggie that I am looking for......but, I couldn't leave this Millers Falls (Weller) behind
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I have one of those. It was my grandpas. Late 70s early 80s.
I used it for ever.
Now it’s all about the cordless.
 

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I recently go this fella for twenty bucks as well. It could have been made from 1965 - 1981
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