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ER70S-2

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Lol. PLA rules because it's dirt cheap and great for prototypes, templates, jigs, measuring tools, it's stiffness, dimensional accuracy etc. I can go on. Not to mention it's more environmentally friendly.
 

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Pla is great to start out with and I guess if you only make farcical stuff it’s ok but

@mike93lx, I can totally see where some people feel like they are being "looked down their noses at" for using PLA. Not saying other filaments don't have their place as well, but it seems like the equivalent of someone saying "Throw away all your SAE tools, because you never need them", only to find their entire worldview is a Toyota dealer auto mechanic.

Use what works. PLA is cheap, flows well, is stupid simple to print with and prototype, etc. If you need the benefits of other things, great, use those. But don't "gatekeep" the elitism of what plastic you use to determine if you are worthy enough.

Edit: This is coming from someone who started with Makerbots and Replicator/x3g code. So I have seen most of the evolution...
 

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@mike93lx, I can totally see where some people feel like they are being "looked down their noses at" for using PLA. Not saying other filaments don't have their place as well, but it seems like the equivalent of someone saying "Throw away all your SAE tools, because you never need them", only to find their entire worldview is a Toyota dealer auto mechanic.

Use what works. PLA is cheap, flows well, is stupid simple to print with and prototype, etc. If you need the benefits of other things, great, use those. But don't "gatekeep" the elitism of what plastic you use to determine if you are worthy enough.

Edit: This is coming from someone who started with Makerbots and Replicator/x3g code. So I have seen most of the evolution...
I don't get the "dirt cheap" comments. Petg can easily be sourced for $10 a roll, same with pla. Maybe in the before times it was different, but it's not the case today
 

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Sure PETG is also cheap, but PLA (deservedly) has the reputation of "just working" (regarding printer issues), along with being offered in more colors/flavors than PETG. So if you don't need the benefits of PETG, why deal with any downsides?

Again, I am not saying "Dont use PETG". But if PLA works for the need, why the elitism?
 
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Sure PETG is also cheap, but PLA (deservedly) has the reputation of "just working" (regarding printer issues), along with being offered in more colors/flavors than PETG. So if you don't need the benefits of PETG, why deal with any downsides?

Again, I am not saying "Dont use PETG". But if PLA works for the need, why the elitism?
I haven't experienced the downsides. I've had far more failed prints with pla than Petg. Abnormal experience or is that perception a carry over from old printers?
 

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You are the outlier (both IME, and general internet wisdom), for having more PLA fail than PETG. This is experience from both Core XY and bedslingers, enclosed and open, anything from the level of Ender to Stratysys.

But even if your experience was indicative of the whole, why shame others for using what works for them? Not saying you (mike) in specific, but rather in general. Kind of like "SO or Bust", "HF is garbage" mentality.
 

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You are the outlier (both IME, and general internet wisdom), for having more PLA fail than PETG. This is experience from both Core XY and bedslingers, enclosed and open, anything from the level of Ender to Stratysys.

But even if your experience was indicative of the whole, why shame others for using what works for them? Not saying you (mike) in specific, but rather in general. Kind of like "SO or Bust", "HF is garbage" mentality.
I agree, no shaming anyone from me. There is no amount less that I could care what everyone else runs through their printers.
 

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I don't get the "dirt cheap" comments. Petg can easily be sourced for $10 a roll, same with pla. Maybe in the before times it was different, but it's not the case today

I pay $7-8 a roll for PLA. It's always a couple bucks cheaper than the cheapest PETG.
 

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I pay $7-8 a roll for PLA. It's always a couple bucks cheaper than the cheapest PETG.
Cheaper is fair. "dirt cheap" for $2-3 less? I see folks buying Petg for under $10 as well, but I just get it from school house spools as it's cheap enough and supports a small business.

Again, everyone should run what they want, from the cheapest Ali-x stuff to $30/kg recycled petg
 

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Sure PETG is also cheap, but PLA (deservedly) has the reputation of "just working" (regarding printer issues), along with being offered in more colors/flavors than PETG. So if you don't need the benefits of PETG, why deal with any downsides?

Again, I am not saying "Dont use PETG". But if PLA works for the need, why the elitism?
Why are people trying to be a victim some how, or claim I slighted them; and claim my statement was elitism? Seems to be a problem with society of people not reading or hearing what is actually said and making additional things up in thier mind.

I printed with it a long time and now 10 years down the road nothing I printed on my old ender 3 with PLA is still functional, it has all failed or warped due to degradation. I even acknowledged why it was a good choice for beginners on those early printers.

This AAA battery mag cracked into several piece when touched the other day, printed maybe in 2018.
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