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A_Pmech

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Stuey said:
Awesome video!

I don't think I'm alone when I ask for more, more, MORE! =)

I'll see what I can do. :beer:

Who would ever hit anything with that hammer? Like competing in a destruction derby with your Bugatti Veyron.

I've used the prototype almost every day since I made it. Some things are best enjoyed, others are best left for looking at. I enjoy using tools. Anyway, after the first ding it's not so bad... :bounce:
 
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Update

Heads are done!

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There's a dozen hammer handles hiding in that box along with about 20 brass faces:

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See, that's why I bought two.... one is for looking at (S/N 1) and the other is for use .... the non-series production model!

Though, if you just order a couple of extra heads, it looks as new again since the body and handle don't suffer damage anyway..
 

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Its a beautiful piece of work, no doubt!

Nothing yet today beats a well grained quality hickory handle. If you really use a hammer, using one with such a rigid handle will hurt you by the end of 8 hours use. Estwing spent a lot of time and money developing that rubber grip for theirs. It's still not as comfortable as wood but it can get wet and survive bad strikes.

With years of practice as you get better with one, a wooden handle will last a life time. Heads get loose if they get wet or abused by bad swings.

When sweat and motor oil get on a wooden handle it it not as slippery and your hand won't get tired from strengthening your grip to prevent slippage. That knurled handle will chew through flesh like an elboa virus.

We give fiberglass handled beaters to the guys at work because they are not as hard on the hand or arm and can survive the missed blows. They get slippery though. Wooden handled hammers don't last 2 minutes on the job but these guys are nightmares with equipment.

I'm not a blacksmith but anyone who is or who uses a hammer like they were meant to be used will agree.
 
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I'm sure others will chime in, and please do correct me if I'm wrong...

With this hammer being designed for precision work, I believe that if the handle on this masterpiece is making you uncomfortable, you're using the hammer for an application it's not intended for.
 

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Its a beautiful piece of work, no doubt!

Nothing yet today beats a well grained quality hickory handle. If you really use a hammer, using one with such a rigid handle will hurt you by the end of 8 hours use. Estwing spent a lot of time and money developing that rubber grip for theirs. It's still not as comfortable as wood but it can get wet and survive bad strikes.

With years of practice as you get better with one, a wooden handle will last a life time. Heads get loose if they get wet or abused by bad swings.

When sweat and motor oil get on a wooden handle it it not as slippery and your hand won't get tired from strengthening your grip to prevent slippage. That knurled handle will chew through flesh like an elboa virus.

We give fiberglass handled beaters to the guys at work because they are not as hard on the hand or arm and can survive the missed blows. They get slippery though. Wooden handled hammers don't last 2 minutes on the job but these guys are nightmares with equipment.

I'm not a blacksmith but anyone who is or who uses a hammer like they were meant to be used will agree.

If I were to have to spend 8 hours a day pounding nails into 2x4's and framing a house, I'd wholly agree.. and for that I have a variety of wood and other handles..... this hammer is however intended for a totally different job.. It's got more in common with a surgical grade orthopedic hammer than a carpenters hammer.... A case of apples and oranges.
 
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With this hammer being designed for precision work, I believe that if the handle on this masterpiece is making you uncomfortable, you're using the hammer for an application it's not intended for.

A case of apples and oranges.

Certainly!

As Scottmlew and MD11 have pointed out, "The Hammer" is neither intended for wailing away on drift pins while setting iron for the next bridge across the Mississippi, nor is it intended for driving nails. That's what sledge hammers and carpenters hammers are for. Comparing "The Hammer" to those tools is like comparing a c-clamp to a micrometer. They only look similar.

"The Hammer" is a precision tool built for precision work. Engine assembly, running pin punches, aircraft work, instrument repair and machining are examples of where "The Hammer" shines.

Regarding the handle, I have used the prototype every day since I built it, as can be seen in the photos posted here. It has never hurt me or been uncomfortable in any way. In fact, just the opposite. You'll read earlier in the thread that the knurling on the handle is incomplete, specifically to preclude the prickly nature of the fully developed diamond knurl. My hand are still intact:

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In addition, the handle is shaped to provide a natural place for the index finger to rest and is ambidextrous. I wanted "The Hammer" to "point" like a gun. The features which allow it to "point" are made possible by the use of high-strength aircraft alloys. No wooden or fiberglass handle can provide those features due to the limitations of the materials.

Placing your hand as shown below relieves the need to have anything other than the lightest of grips on the handle, even when the handle is covered in cutting oil or coolant, as is usually the case in machining.

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As can be seen, a lot of thought went into "The Hammer" and not hammer-shaped objects are intended for the same application. "The Hammer" is a tool I use every day in my work and it is perfectly suited for it's intended application: precision work.

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Hello A P mech (I'm guessing Airframe Powerplant?)

I'm going to add 2 more cents and bow out of this one. I can see by your lathe, part finishes and the quality of materials used that you are giving every pennies worth of your price in that hammer your making. It may well be the toughest hammer ever made. I believe at one point you talked about designing in the center of percussion for good balance and to reduce handle shock. So you're even using some physics with respect to the design of your product. Why not make it the most accurate and comfortable to use.

It's been said that the Hammer was the first tool used by man (more ways than one). He then made an anvil with that first hammer and then and only then, came everything else up to today's micro chips. Give a lowly Hammer the respect it deserves.

The picture of the hammers I use, 10 oz to 10 lb for everything from fixing clocks to building bridges all have one thing in common. A resilient, flexible, sweat absorbing, oval shaped comfortable handle. Its a must for ten strikes or ten thousand. You think, especially in days past with no machinery, somebody spend all that time carving that classic handle shape because it looked good.

Round is no good you'll lose the accuracy of your strikes. The oval shape gives you the ability to the guide and direct the blows without hand strain, hammer enough and half your strength that went to trying to keep the head straight makes you start sending bad blows. Now you need a punch holder to remedy hitting your hand with the hammer (at this point stay out of the garage and pay someone to fix it for you). That goes for hammering on clock parts, assembling small die sets or building bridges. One strike or one million.

All hammers always have a slight crown on the face (except for one, a planishing hammer, 5th from left in picture). Another must, it's to prevent slipping and marring. The planishing hammer is used on a round anvil so its left flat.

Look at the handles on your lathe dials. See the shape of the one on the cross feed vs. the carriage handles. That's so your hand doesn't tire and allows for accurate control of the finest screw on the lathe for precision work. Cheap Asian stuff doesn't always put time or money there into making that elaborately shaped handle. They use round or a taper at best. Most people don't realize why their Asian **** is such **** until they use it for real work. So in keeping true to USA quality of which is almost there in your product, put a slight crown on the faces and an oval slot in the head so it can be fitted with a good ole hickory handle. Make sure the major axis of the handle slot is dead nuts in line with the axis through the center of the faces.

Now for for $129.00 plus $10.70 for shipping, a guy can proclaim beyond all doubt, I have the best hammer in the world.

Bonus! You can buy a good hickory handle for a lot less than what your aluminum with machining time costs.
 

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While Stewart makes some valid points I have to say, that in the two applications I used my hammer for so far... one was setting a titanium $350 headset into a $2700 titanium bike frame, and the other was repairing a unbreakable rosary where the Silver wire that held the center piece on needed a few blows to compact the coil I used to secure it to another piece of wire... both were absolutely amazing... and of all my hammers, including my Japanese 2Oz wood handled hammer, no other tool fit the bill so well... the ability to use a plastic head for the rosary.... and the heft of the brass for the headset were a perfect compliment to the precise feel of the hammer and by extension the handle... I agree that maybe if this hammer was intended for 8-10 hours a day use, other ergonomics might be engineered into it to make it easier to grip, though I frankly can't see how.... but this is hardly an issue to be addressed at this point.

Frankly, what I would love to see is maybe a Tungsten Carbide head option for the ultimate in toughness.... and also for the Punch, Tungsten Carbide would make for a great body to the punch.... however, I imagine you might need diamond tip tooling to work with it, no?
 

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You installed a headset with a hammer??? Next time give a yell and you can borrow a headset press...
 

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Frankly, what I would love to see is maybe a Tungsten Carbide head option for the ultimate in toughness.... QUOTE]

Why?

So you could watch it crack and/or chip on the first swing. :headscrat

For the plastic tips, Elroy would have used delrin but to each is own. The point about the "aiming" superiority of an oval handle is an excellent point. But then again it looks like these are being built as a finesse piece for the ultimate in delicate work. The fine knurl for a tactile feel.

The handle deal comes down to personal preference. In Elroy's opinion, the "hard" face would be better served by other materials. Carbide is not the answer.
 

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You installed a headset with a hammer??? Next time give a yell and you can borrow a headset press...

right... no such fancy tools for me, the bike stand not withstanding... the hardest part is lining it up and getting it seated properly, driving it in was cake with the hammer working around it's circumference...
 

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Frankly, what I would love to see is maybe a Tungsten Carbide head option for the ultimate in toughness.... QUOTE]

Why?

So you could watch it crack and/or chip on the first swing. :headscrat

For the plastic tips, Elroy would have used delrin but to each is own. The point about the "aiming" superiority of an oval handle is an excellent point. But then again it looks like these are being built as a finesse piece for the ultimate in delicate work. The fine knurl for a tactile feel.

The handle deal comes down to personal preference. In Elroy's opinion, the "hard" face would be better served by other materials. Carbide is not the answer.


I guess it is a bit on the brittle side, didn't really think about that..
 
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Now THAT is a drill bit!

It certainly is! It gets buried all the way up to the chuck too. :)

Update

The handles are drilled and roughed in. Today I'm going to do knurling and start turning the features.

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I don't know if it's just the photo's, but the handles look to be more "Finished" this time... are you applying more polish and finish to the production model? that polish looks good either way!
 
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I don't know if it's just the photo's, but the handles look to be more "Finished" this time... are you applying more polish and finish to the production model? that polish looks good either way!

I made a few tweaks. :)
 

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Are you going to offer the punches separately? How will they work with hardened steel, like Sheer pins? (can't justify the cost of the hammer, but a decent pin for a specialized machine at work, I could)
 
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Are you going to offer the punches separately? How will they work with hardened steel, like Sheer pins? (can't justify the cost of the hammer, but a decent pin for a specialized machine at work, I could)

Certainly. At the current time I plan to offer the punches in the following combinations:

"The Punch" set and "The Hammer", with case

"The Punch" set with case

"The Punch" set without case

The will perform fine with shear pins. Do you have a certain size in mind?
 
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Update

The current group of handles are knurled:

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Here are a few nearly completed handles from earlier today. All that remains is to deburr and cut off the slug on the head end:

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UPDATE

ALL THE HAMMERS IN THIS GROUP HAVE BEEN SOLD!

I'll be ordering more Aluminum in the morning. :)

I'm planning to ship this group mid next week so get ready to watch your mailboxes!

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Congrats John! First Batch of production models soldout in a week! not bad considering you have only word of mount out there.
 

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This is great news! Someone making a solution and building a business to boot!

Congrats John and best of luck!
 

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I think in this era of even the likes of the venerable Snap On brand going to China slowly (incrementally) .. there will be a demand for high quality US Made tools.. It began with a hammer, and then a punch set.. what's next? PB Swiss quality, Made in the USA, and priced reasonably... were it not for this state of this economy, he might already have had two investment banks beating down on his door for an IPO..

Not long ago, a guy name Steve Wozniak invented a small computer... a guy he met in college named Steve Jobs then came along and helped him out with some cash and know how.... At that time IBM, Digital, and other old brands dominated the market Today it's the most successful company in silicone valley..

Stranger things have happened..
 
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Thanks guys!

I already have orders for the next group of hammers! The materials order went in this morning. Also, the word is starting to spread outside of Garage Journal.

I'll be announcing pricing on The Punch and punch/hammer sets shortly after I get the current group out the door next week.

Stay tuned...

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Something tells me between meeting orders for production series hammers and design and spooling up of production of the punch, John is buried these days! Hope your able to make it all fit into a 24 hour day John!
 
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I'll be posting pricing on The Punch and accepting orders as soon as I get these out the door:

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I assembled these this evening in Liquid Nitrogen and will ship most of them on Monday.

Here's a close-up of the finished etching and stamped serial number:

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I almost forgot....

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