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LB-1911
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"For now just the 3/8" extension. We would like to work on a 1/4" if the 3/8" proves satisfactory to everyone. It seems to bridge the gap for the most common issues."
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3873060&postcount=36
Andrew_Logica
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Thanks for the reply to Chamkila, LB. We actually just started design on multiple derivatives, including 1/4" and 1/2" HEXtensions in both metric and SAE sizes. Also, we just received some mail from our manufacturer. Photos and videos for the website coming very soon!
Dugan
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http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/husky-wrench.html
Just found these, old husky ext. like yours.
Just found these, old husky ext. like yours.
Outlawmws
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Actually it's not, That hex on the old husky ext. is a rotating grip.
But incredibly similar in looks for sure!
But incredibly similar in looks for sure!
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Andrew_Logica
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Yes, a different design, but I really dig the sliding T-bar handle. If anything this whole experience has exposed me to a lot of really cool vintage tools.
Andrew_Logica
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Hey everyone, just wanted to share the latest news. No, we haven't forgotten anyone. We've been hard at work improving the tool, getting prototype photos, and securing long term US production. I wanted to share with you all our latest blog post, which has updated pictures and information regarding our current production. Please click the link below for the latest, and thanks again!
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/05/our-prototype-has-arrived.html
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/05/our-prototype-has-arrived.html
quattroJoe
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Looking good! I like that you have the sizes stamped on the hex portions, I've often wished bolts has the size stamped on the heads after grabbing the wrong size tool two or three times! Glad to hear that you're making moves towards eventual US production as well- I'm looking forward to the first batch for sure, but (for myself) moving stateside will have a positive effect on future purchases when more sizes become available.
4x4gearhead
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Im interested in getting the set of these when they come out for sure.
Must have MOAR tools!
I love the idea gents! Hell, I love the idea of supporting small American business. Hopefully you can find a manufacturer here in the states to please others around here
Have a beer (or several) on me!
sidenote, Ill be sharing your tool on a few other SoCal forums, hopefully it spreads like wildfire!
I love the idea gents! Hell, I love the idea of supporting small American business. Hopefully you can find a manufacturer here in the states to please others around here
Have a beer (or several) on me!
sidenote, Ill be sharing your tool on a few other SoCal forums, hopefully it spreads like wildfire!
Andrew_Logica
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Thanks for the support GSEninja. Word of mouth is the single best gift we can get. I'll take that beer, for sure.
Ryan,
While some people will claim to pay more via a message board with everyone looking on - there have been multiple studies done with One-on-One phone ordering, where the buyer was told the product was foreign made, if the buyer showed resistance, they operator gladly told them there was a domestic made version for ~25% more - say $80 vs $100 spread. The vast majority of the buyers who spoke up about the country of origin still opted for the cheaper version. When no one is looking, it seems most people still want to save money.
I hope those posting on this thread that they would pay more, actually would if this company decides to produce domestically. Or else they will be out of business. And the foreign made version likely copied and being sold at harbor freight will be a smashing success at a $7.99 price point.
Andrew_Logica
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Got a render for everyone so you can see the beveling that's been added.
Andrew_Logica
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Knurling, anyone?
Mohawk Dave
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YES! Knurling is good!
quattroJoe
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Each revision is looking better and better! Can't wait to get my hands on one
Wingnut65
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+2 on the knurling!
Knurling, anyone?
Yes! Looks sharp.
d.mcfarland
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Where does the benefit of this thing come in. I would think just using a long handle ratchet would give much more functionality to removing a fastener? This seems like it would need 3 hands.
3baygarage
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Knurling, anyone?
Nice. I see you guys took my advice on the knurling.
Even after I said the COO scared me off. 
I like the fact that the hex sizes are marked on there too.
I can see this turning into a $100 super extension with a locking end, magnetic tip and an LED light built in. Just kidding. Looks like it is coming along well.
Andrew_Logica
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Haha, just wait until the next revision, 3bay. It's going to have a coffee maker and a laser sight.
Also, can't say anything official on COO yet, but it's looking like stars and stripes around here...
Also, can't say anything official on COO yet, but it's looking like stars and stripes around here...
Farmall450
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Outlawmws
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Nice. I see you guys took my advice on the knurling.
I like the fact that the hex sizes are marked on there too.
I can see this turning into a $100 super extension with a locking end, magnetic tip and an LED light built in. Just kidding. Looks like it is coming along well.
Hmmm LED light in the tip; that could work! 3bay, you are a genius!
Andrew_Logica
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LumpyMusic
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My TengTool 1/4 inch -
Sgt Lumpy
Sgt Lumpy
My TengTool 1/4 inch -
Sgt Lumpy
looks very nice, where did you get it from?
snowmanii
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We have used this (or some form of it) for stuck screws forever. This however is specifically set up for air impact.
Outlawmws
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Similar design, different purpose:
That one allows a controlled rotation while an air chisel gun provides vertical impact vs. a traditional impact gun providing rotational impact.
That one allows a controlled rotation while an air chisel gun provides vertical impact vs. a traditional impact gun providing rotational impact.
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Andrew_Logica
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Hello everyone. We hope you didn't miss us too much. We've been wrapping up the final design improvements on the tool and are working to get production started with our USA based manufacturer. We are waiting on one more prototype to test, and then we will have the green light to start manufacturing. Huge thanks to everyone who has maintained interest. It's been a long road to this point, but it's our goal to have a high quality tool for everyone. In the meantime, we've put up some great new photos in the blog, so please spend some time taking a look.
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/06/updated-prototype-pictures.html
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/06/updated-prototype-pictures.html
fireeqpsrv
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PM sent,
d.mcfarland
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Can we get an honest price point for this item? I know there are variations, but for the limited uses this tool will ever receive the price point has to be in the "ehh I might need it one day" category. Almost like a gimmick tool price at Sears. I mean, I'm not hating, I'm just bringing a real life business approach. I'm also just saying that if the sharks on shark tank won't invest, you can lead yourselves to the problem in this venture. My guess is a 3" we are looking at probably the direct cost of above $15 all said and done? Just a wild guess. Getting into retailers with this may be downright impossible, so the direct marketing approach has to be extremely effective.
What about a 1/2" extension that just has the 15mm hex? The problem is that the selling point is literally better torque. That can be achieved with a longer ratchet at the end, inches away from the added wrench.
What about a 1/2" extension that just has the 15mm hex? The problem is that the selling point is literally better torque. That can be achieved with a longer ratchet at the end, inches away from the added wrench.
quattroJoe
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Shaun_Logica
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Thanks for the continued PM's guys. There are some great people on this board.
Andrew_Logica
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Hey everyone! We got to do some for realsies work with our tool this weekend and I was able to get some great photos demonstrating our HEXtension in action. Take a look on our blog and see what you think.
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/06/putting-our-tool-to-work.html
http://logicatool.com/1/post/2014/06/putting-our-tool-to-work.html
d.mcfarland
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Since I'm the "hater" I'll give my opinion. The pictures did provide good shots. However, many of us were looking at them saying this is how I would overcome the obstacle presented. Our options probably did not involve the hextension because a wobble, universal joint, stubby, or long handle ratchet probably would have accomplished the same thing. Now, with that said, would I pick up one of these for less than $5? Yes, to support you guys. Is that in any way a $30 tool? No.
Andrew_Logica
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d.mcfarland, I don't see you as a hater at all. We welcome everyone's opinion and input. The point of the tool is to provide options and flexibility, especially in confined spaces that we often run into in modern engine bays. It may be that your tools already suit you for these situations, but for many mechanics, there's always that one trouble spot that takes far too long. This tool turns that job into a breeze. We hope as you see more of the tool you come to appreciate it's multiple applications and benefits.
I should add that I have used u-joint and wobble tools. They are a part of my tool collection. Most of the time, though, I'm cursing them for binding, or not being able to work at the angle I want. Our tool can get into the tight spaces where others cannot and apply direct torque, instead of dealing with a train of tools coupled together. Which, for me at least, always end up falling down on my face.
I should add that I have used u-joint and wobble tools. They are a part of my tool collection. Most of the time, though, I'm cursing them for binding, or not being able to work at the angle I want. Our tool can get into the tight spaces where others cannot and apply direct torque, instead of dealing with a train of tools coupled together. Which, for me at least, always end up falling down on my face.
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Andrew_Logica
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Hey ducksface, please understand these are just demo photos where we got to use one of our prototypes and get some examples for people that may want to know more about the tool. We are first offering the the tool in two lengths for 3/8" sockets, but already have the technical drawings done for 1/2" and 1/4" as well. As we are still in the R&D phase, and especially as we are a small start up, we're doing everything we can to make the tool that fits best for the majority of our customers. Thanks for your input.
Andrew_Logica
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Ducks, I take your point, but we have many people interested in the tool that want to see photos of progress. When we have our production models we will have even more photos and videos to support our tool.
Re: being a mechanic, I spent time as a professional mechanic and even more time working on my own projects. For people that don't have lifts or full tool boxes, the HEXtension is even more relevant. Being on both sides of the coin I can say I would want one professionally and privately, but I'm biased.
It's not really about being the only one to fit. It fits in more ways than one. Our tool is about options. I sincerely appreciate your comments, though, and I'm looking forward to getting production model photos and video to help demonstrate the usefulness of our tool. My main task right now is keeping people in the loop that have been following this tool since early development.
Re: being a mechanic, I spent time as a professional mechanic and even more time working on my own projects. For people that don't have lifts or full tool boxes, the HEXtension is even more relevant. Being on both sides of the coin I can say I would want one professionally and privately, but I'm biased.
It's not really about being the only one to fit. It fits in more ways than one. Our tool is about options. I sincerely appreciate your comments, though, and I'm looking forward to getting production model photos and video to help demonstrate the usefulness of our tool. My main task right now is keeping people in the loop that have been following this tool since early development.