The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[rice rocket]

I'm not a huge fanboy of Milwaukee tools but I do like them a lot.

The China-made logic is valid but there comes a point where we have to accept reality - there are no electric power tools made in the US so you have to choose from Chinese brands or not use some categories of tools. It's sad, very sad, but that's reality.

Makita builds the most tools out of anyone in the USA. They do mix in some China, but also have factories in Japan, the UK, and I'm sure elsewhere too.
Bosch mixes in German, Swiss, Mexico, etc.
Metabo mixes in German, Czechia, etc.

On the other hand, anything from TTI is always from China, right?
TTI's got it figured out. Marketing builds brands, not your faceless laborer. Gotta squeeze your labor costs and make margins to support that massive marketing budget.


You don't HAVE to support wage slavery ALL the time if you don't want to. I know it's not always convenient though.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

I don't have time to read 203 pages of cool tools but I wonder if anyone has shown the most awesome and useful Milwaukee tool of them all:

What is this used for???

 

[kctyphoon]

That's a joke I hope..

 

[kctyphoon]

Found the near perfect case for the 2130 Trueview stand light. Only $25, padded all around, wish the sides were a little rigid, almost the identical size of the box that the light came in, put the cardboard ends in there cause they fit perfectly.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D88JALK/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I just left the protective plastic on the light's lens..

 

[dacan23]

Dewalt tools are assembled in the US using global components.

Dewalt makes some of their power tools in the US.

 

[rice rocket]

Dewalt makes some of their power tools in the US.

Here's the thing though.

They're all competing in the same market space, at the same price points. So to stay afloat, DeWalt, TTI, or Hitachi or whoever need to create a drill that's sold to retailers @ $40, which will be sold on your local HD shelf for $99.

DeWalt's making the big bet that they can build loyalty by playing for people's emotions, TTI is playing the numbers. And they're winning the game, by a long shot.


So assume they all achieve relatively the same prices in parts costs (using globally sourced components), but DeWalt spends $5 on the labor (1/2 hr @ $10/hr), TTI spends 10 cents (1/2 hr @ $40/month, 50 hour weeks).

That's EACH drill. Sell a new drill to one in every 100 people, 3 million drills sold, that a $12.8 million more that TTI has to play with that DeWalt does not, that they can drive into product development, or marketing. Those price cuts, free batteries, free companion tools? Those are paid for directly by the massive gulf in labor costs. DeWalt will never win that game, because who in their right mind will pay the same price and not pickup the free battery/tool or 20% off, or whatever. But we won't see **** happen until we start writing labor costs on the side of each box and taxing/tarriffing goods built by wave slaves, but that would, ironically, be unAmerican.

 

[dalepres]

What is this used for???

It's a wire stripper. That's why it's so useful.

 

[dacan23]

Performed some extensive testing on many M18 & M12 impacts for lug bolt removal last weekend. Created new thread so it would not be buried in addiction thread for future use.

M18 M12 Impact Lug Removal Testing

 

[rmsg0040]

Seems like places like IHL, mississaugahardware, and bcfasteners are running bonus battery specials

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

That's a joke I hope..

I couldn't figure out how to open a can of Mountain Dew with it (yes, it was a joke).

It's a wire stripper. That's why it's so useful.

Ohhh!!! That makes sense. The wire stripper built into the screwdriver handles honestly isn't that bad for standard residential wiring. It's worked a couple of times in a pinch.

In other news... the new nailers can't come soon enough!

 

[theoldwizard1]

In other news... the new nailers can't come soon enough!

While the Craftsman attempt at a battery operated "palm" nailer was "interesting", if someone could make a GOOD battery operated finish nailer, or even a headless brad nailer, I'll bet it would sell like hot cakes !

 

[falconero]

While the Craftsman attempt at a battery operated "palm" nailer was "interesting", if someone could make a GOOD battery operated finish nailer, or even a headless brad nailer, I'll bet it would sell like hot cakes !

What happens when hotcakes don't sell like hotcakes they got a decline in revenue as inflation gone up or down that much? I think they're well and good but nobody ever mentioned anything about cold cakes :/

On a more related note anybody have any insight on the Milwaukee utility blades?

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

What is this used for???

A modern Church key?

 

[kctyphoon]

First off, let me begin by saying I love my Milwaukee circular saw and sawzall, and I have nothing against Milwaukee tools in general. I know they are very good tools

With that said, what is the obsession with Milwaukee cordless tools? Particularly, with the amount of xenophobes on this site that say "I only buy American made tools". I realize there's not a whole lot of American made cordless power tools these days, but there are plenty made in Germany, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia etc. I'm far from a xenophobe, I only prefer my tools not made in China. Nearly all my sockets, wrenches and ratchets are made in Taiwan. My Bosch cordless tools are made in Malaysia and gasp even America, and at least the money goes back to Germany not China like Techtronic Industries.

I'm just curious why all the "anything not American made is garbage" crowd is more than happy to buy made in China tools owned by a Chinese company nonetheless?

The "obsession" is because it's one of the few or only companies where you can buy power tools, lights, heated gear - and they continually exceed your expectations but are not far off the price of comparable products, yet a noticable difference exists between them performance wise. It's probably the best system you can invest in that gives you both contractor and mechanic geared tools that share battery platforms and deliver industry leading performance. It's taken dewalt and makita years just to catch up to what Milwaukee was offering as far as a high torque impact, and that's just one tool.. When you consider the lights, tools, and heated gear as a system you want to invest in, there really is no contest.

I'm not going to comment on the "buy American" part of your statement cause it's just elevates into people arguing over nonsense and I'm tired of that in here.

 

[firworks]

Just got home from a HD trip. They had the big hugemongous Milwaukee tool cart in the rafters, along with the new 30" one. They have like 15 of the older 46" carts in a big stack near the contractors entrance so there's a glut of those. No nailers to be seen anywhere. I decided to grab a pair of the XL demolition gloves anyway to see how they go. They feel a little snug but maybe they'll loosen up. I have huge thumbs.

 

[Frontierajl]

The "obsession" is because it's one of the few or only companies where you can buy power tools, lights, heated gear - and they continually exceed your expectations but are not far off the price of comparable products, yet a noticable difference exists between them performance wise. It's probably the best system you can invest in that gives you both contractor and mechanic geared tools that share battery platforms and deliver industry leading performance. It's taken dewalt and makita years just to catch up to what Milwaukee was offering as far as a high torque impact, and that's just one tool.. When you consider the lights, tools, and heated gear as a system you want to invest in, there really is no contest.



I'm not going to comment on the "buy American" part of your statement cause it's just elevates into people arguing over nonsense and I'm tired of that in here.

I just like the color red.




Lol jk. This was a better explanation than mine.

 

[firworks]

Anyone know of any current deals on the 2763-22 kit? Something like that ToolUp deal a month or so ago. Showed the girlfriend's dad the kit and now he wants one for work. I told him I'd watch for a deal.

Also has anyone seen the new M12 flash light that's coming out soon? For some reason Acme Tools are the only ones with a preorder for it:
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2355-20

I'm tempted just because I seem to have to get every new Milwaukee light I find. I'm very close to preordering it and just telling myself I'll do a video and then it becomes a "business expense" instead of me just wasting money. I've told myself that about a lot of tools that I'm never going to video but it helps my consience.

 

[Roobaix]

I'd need to see that light up close. It seems like it's going to be enormous.

 

[48548]

Another load came in....

 

[dacan23]

Havent seen a comparable deal since, but check CL, seen a few good prices on the 2763 there.

Anyone know of any current deals on the 2763-22 kit? Something like that ToolUp deal a month or so ago. Showed the girlfriend's dad the kit and now he wants one for work. I told him I'd watch for a deal.

I just saw the new light on ToolGuyD, I can't afford and keep up with all these lights... still need the M18 Lantern. Seems like the power of the M12 spotlight but in a smaller form factor.

http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m12-led-flashlight-2355-20/

Also has anyone seen the new M12 flash light that's coming out soon? For some reason Acme Tools are the only ones with a preorder for it:
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2355-20

I'm tempted just because I seem to have to get every new Milwaukee light I find. I'm very close to preordering it and just telling myself I'll do a video and then it becomes a "business expense" instead of me just wasting money. I've told myself that about a lot of tools that I'm never going to video but it helps my consience.

 

[dacan23]

Rumor of Fuel Miter Saw coming to US

http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m18-fuel-cordless-miter-saw/

 

[firworks]

I just got a survey email from Milwaukee asking what the next M12 and M18 FUEL tools should be. Thought I'd ask the same question here. What do you guys think is missing from the lineup? They don't need to be FUEL but I'm definitely telling them Milwaukee-Talkies! Beyond that I'm not sure what is missing. I do hope they come out with M12 FUEL nailers at least like a 18 Ga brad nailer and a pin nailer or a stapler.

I'll need to think a little bit more before submitting and maybe see if anyone here has a great idea.

 

[kctyphoon]

I just got a survey email from Milwaukee asking what the next M12 and M18 FUEL tools should be. Thought I'd ask the same question here. What do you guys think is missing from the lineup? They don't need to be FUEL but I'm definitely telling them Milwaukee-Talkies! Beyond that I'm not sure what is missing. I do hope they come out with M12 FUEL nailers at least like a 18 Ga brad nailer and a pin nailer or a stapler.

I'll need to think a little bit more before submitting and maybe see if anyone here has a great idea.

This was my list -

here is what I would love to see Milwaukee design and release for sale -
A brushless, cordless chainsaw.

Even a remake of the old Milwaukee corded electric chainsaw.

Another idea -

a multi bay m18 charger that doubles as a jump pack. Take the idea of the current 6 bay M18 charger, and keep the 4 batteries in the middle on the charger. Replace the two end bays with a positive jump cord on one side, and a negative on another. Design the unit to act as a normal multi bay charger that can hold up to 4 m18 packs, but allow the unit to also double as portable jump pack that can jumpstart cars and other small engines using any combination of 2 to 4 batteries to power the unit.
This seems like it would be a no - brainer for mechanics to buy that are already using the m18 impacts. It gives them BOTH a new powerful charger AND another tool.

A single m18 powered litium jump pack and power source. Something small enough to leave in a glovebox or in the trunk as an emergency power pack to charger phones and start a small cars engine.

A brushless jigsaw - I've been waiting on this from you for a while now..

A brushless impacting ratchet..

An m12 or m4 powered headlight worklight that can be mounted on a hardhat- like big model Coast and LED Lenser lights.

M12 powered walkie talkies

An m18 powered brushless remote control car and truck, with an m12 powered remote control.

An m18 powered portable tire inflator/ compressor

An m18 powered car scissor jack

MILWAUKEE SAFTEY SUNGLASSES - so I can stop buying Carharrt ones off eBay

a milwaukke ratchet set and ratcheting combo wrenches

A thin, flat, long M12 powered led inspection light similar to Astro pnuematic's

An m12 or m18 powered adjustable length under hood clamping led work light light a snap on or blu point light

A M18 AND M12 Corded power source, to allow people to take any cordless power tool or light, and convert it into a corded tool for power hungry tools like saws, grinders, and the new tripod light - (which is ******* amazing btw)

M12 or m4 powered focusing and zoomable binoculars.

A freakin Milwaukee hammer would be nice too !!!!!

 

[dacan23]

M12 or M18 Inflator
M12 or M18 Corner Cat Sander or Orbital Sander
M12 or M18 Orbital Polisher
M18 Yard Tools; Chainsaw, Hedge Trimmer, etc.

I just got a survey email from Milwaukee asking what the next M12 and M18 FUEL tools should be.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

M18 Framing Nailer (it's bound to happen in the 6-12 months)

I love the corded power source idea mentioned above. Batteries have gotten to the point where there is little reason to buy a corded version of a tool if a cordless version exists. There are still tools that could be useful to have a cord for, like the miter saw. Plug it in when at home/in the workshop but have the capability to take it with you wherever. I could see a portable table saw in the future too.

 

[roguegts]

I'm getting antsy for the 2742 16ga finish nailer. Have a project I can use it on that i'm putting off.

 

[morgantm]

M12 nailer and a M18 tire inflator are at the top of my list.

 

[dacan23]

International tool has a promo right now, buy 2 M18 Fuel bare tools and get 2 5.0 batteries for free.

Bare 2763 $219 plus 2780 Grinder $169, total $388, gets you 2 free 5.0s. Considering 2763 kit is $429, its cheaper than the kit and you get a free tool, but no charger.

http://www.internationaltool.com/milwaukee-2763-20-m18-fuel-1-2-inch-high-torque-impact-wrench

Anyone know of any current deals on the 2763-22 kit? Something like that ToolUp deal a month or so ago. Showed the girlfriend's dad the kit and now he wants one for work. I told him I'd watch for a deal.

 

[dacan23]

See page 5... this is a UK doc... but it shows a M12 6.0 battery... never heard of that before but I knew it was inevitable.

http://uk.milwaukeetool.eu/NetC.Mil...ter/HDN/Milwaukee_HDN_UK-Q1-2016.pdf?ext=.pdf

It also lists the 9.0 at 199 british pounds... in line with our expectations, but the 6.0 is 169 pounds.... so about $300 and $250...

Never seen this before, is there US version... it has a 12v DC plug plus USB...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003TFDTFG/?tag=atomicindustr-21

 

[Tenex]

See page 5... this is a UK doc... but it shows a M12 6.0 battery... never heard of that before but I knew it was inevitable.

http://uk.milwaukeetool.eu/NetC.Mil...ter/HDN/Milwaukee_HDN_UK-Q1-2016.pdf?ext=.pdf

It also lists the 9.0 at 199 british pounds... in line with our expectations, but the 6.0 is 169 pounds.... so about $300 and $250...

Never seen this before, is there US version... it has a 12v DC plug plus USB...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003TFDTFG/?tag=atomicindustr-21

It says the M12 6.0 Ah battery is 119 pounds = 175 US dollars.

 

[danski0224]

Rumor of Fuel Miter Saw coming to US

http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m18-fuel-cordless-miter-saw/

I'd be all over that.

 

[ScottsGT]

My survey requests were all M12's. But a stapler, 6" DA sander, and assorted yard tools based off the M12 since the series is geared towards the homeowners. Even suggested dual batteries for longer run times.

I thought about throwing out the idea on Milwaukee making battery operated "adult bedroom toys" just to see if they were reading the surveys.

 

[FOCUS.FREAK]

Anyone have issues with their 3/8 18 volt fuel impact? Mine has been acting up. When you let go of the trigger the clutch doesn't always stop the anvil from spinning. Also sometimes I will go to squeeze the trigger and I get nothing. Then the next second it works.


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[danski0224]

I just got a survey email from Milwaukee asking what the next M12 and M18 FUEL tools should be. Thought I'd ask the same question here. What do you guys think is missing from the lineup? They don't need to be FUEL but I'm definitely telling them Milwaukee-Talkies! Beyond that I'm not sure what is missing. I do hope they come out with M12 FUEL nailers at least like a 18 Ga brad nailer and a pin nailer or a stapler.

I'll need to think a little bit more before submitting and maybe see if anyone here has a great idea.

I'd like to see a set of double cuts that can do curves, comparable to the Trumpf or Fein models. Or blades for what they have now that will cut curves. Milwaukee is either using or ripped off the Kett double cutter head design, and there are no curve cutting blades last time I looked.

A cordless Unishear.

A better jigsaw. What they have now is better than nothing, but it's no Bosch and it is also lacking lighting.

Compound slide miter saw.

An M18 brushless drill comparable to the Festool model with interchangeable heads, including the eccentric offset and 90*. They could make an M12 model too... plus impact drivers. I'm sure that I have seen this drill as an M12 model available outside of the USA, so bringing it here should be easy.

I'd like a cordless lantern that has the LED array from the tripod light and 4 brightness settings, the capability to run off of AC (detachable and replaceable 15' power cord, maybe even charge the battery too) and double battery slots for extended run time. Even though the current lantern model is awesome... it could be more awesome.

Maybe some of the yard tools offered by Makita.

 

[danski0224]

First off, let me begin by saying I love my Milwaukee circular saw and sawzall, and I have nothing against Milwaukee tools in general. I know they are very good tools

With that said, what is the obsession with Milwaukee cordless tools? Particularly, with the amount of xenophobes on this site that say "I only buy American made tools". I realize there's not a whole lot of American made cordless power tools these days, but there are plenty made in Germany, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia etc. I'm far from a xenophobe, I only prefer my tools not made in China. Nearly all my sockets, wrenches and ratchets are made in Taiwan. My Bosch cordless tools are made in Malaysia and gasp even America, and at least the money goes back to Germany not China like Techtronic Industries.

I'm just curious why all the "anything not American made is garbage" crowd is more than happy to buy made in China tools owned by a Chinese company nonetheless?

If Fein or Festool had the depth of cordless tools offered by Milwaukee, I would buy them. If available, I would expect them to cost at least 2x (if not 3x or 4x) what the Milwaukee tool is selling for. That said, they are too late for me unless they bring major improvements to the table.

They don't have the selection, certainly in the USA market. Nor do I think that either manufacturer offers the selection that Milwaukee has in the USA, overseas.

Festool has all sorts of stuff that is not available in the USA market under the Festool and Festo brand names.

Bosch doesn't have the variety of Milwaukee, either. But, I do like the Bosch 12v LED light better than Milwaukee's version.

Makita comes close and has some tools not offered by Milwaukee, but the Makita stuff is mostly made in China- not Japan where most was made when the LXT line was introduced.

Some of the Milwaukee hand tools have much needed improvements. I like their tape measures and the stick rule (made in Sweden BTW). I'm not rushing out to buy all of the Milwaukee branded hand tools though.

I do not enjoy buying Chinese made Milwaukee tools. It took years for me to even consider replacing the V18 stuff that I had, which was made in the USA or at least not in China- excluding the battery charger. I tried their V18 LiIon batteries and was extremely disappointed. I skipped the first M18 release. The batteries improved and the number of tools grew. I would need to have at least 2 major lines of cordless tools to cover what Milwaukee offers in one- outside of the couple of specialty cordless tools I have.

 

[Jamie V]

I'd like to see a set of double cuts that can do curves, comparable to the Trumpf or Fein models. Or blades for what they have now that will cut curves.

http://www.cpomilwaukee.com/milwauk...shear--bare-tool-/miln2637-20,default,pd.html

These cut curves

 

[stingray1966]

need a die grider like this really bad
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XQ9KLG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[LB-1911]

An M18 brushless drill comparable to the Festool model with interchangeable heads, including the eccentric offset and 90*. They could make an M12 model too... plus impact drivers. I'm sure that I have seen this drill as an M12 model available outside of the USA, so bringing it here should be easy.

Yes you have.

The Milwaukee M12 SET2G-202C Thunderbolt Twin Pack, contains the following:

1 x 12 Volt M12 BDDXKIT Removable Chuck Drill Driver, A high performance sub compact 4-in-1 drill driver system for extreme versatility.

The removable chuck system with 3 different heads for multiple applications: standard 10mm keyless chuck, full metal right angle 1/4in hex drive head and full metal off set 1/4in hex drive head.
http://www.tradecounterdirect.com/m...rbolt-twin-pack-12-volt_2-x-2-0ah-li-ion.html

 

[danski0224]

http://www.cpomilwaukee.com/milwauk...shear--bare-tool-/miln2637-20,default,pd.html

These cut curves

Yes, those cut curves, but that is not a double cut shear.

Those cut straight and left only (they may cut right, but not as well as left). Depending on the material, the offcut can be distorted and sometimes the offcut isn't garbage. A Unishear will cut left and right, but can distort the offcut.

The single cut shear or Unishear require a larger start hole than double cuts.

Having used all 3 versions, plus a nibbler, I prefer double cuts.

 

[cheechi]

Don't have any details. Just saw them sitting there and grabbed some photos.