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Hi I'm new to this thread although I've been following it for a while. Once I figure out how to properly load photos I'll post some pics of my old world tools. No chance there's a thread on the proper way, improper way, and mishaps that can happen along the way with loading photos. As far as the philips screwdriver problem I'd doubt the screwdriver was made improperly or imprecisely although it is possible I got a bad Wiha blade once. It could be Pozidrive, seems to be more common on items from Europe, or from European companies. I'm in the US and I mostly run into Pozidrive screws on stuff from Ikea. Sort of annoying since I think even there tool kits contain philips screwdrivers. They will make a screwdriver tip look like that though. Another possibility is JIS crosshead screws. Common on electronics, computers, as well as items made by Japanese companies wether or not they were made in Japan. I have an USAG screwdriver set one of the blades sort of got like that when transferredI had to partially disassemble a Japanese manufactured planer made by Makita and I couldn't figure out why the blade kept slipping since the blade was definitely high quality. It still works fine on philips screws though. This is the tip The metal isn't worn but the finish is, or plating from the JIS screw transferred to it. It also didn't work well for turning to screw finally got the job done though. Pozidrive screws tend to do something similar. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8476960097/in/photostream/
 

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You have 2 options, you can attach jpeg, but you keep them under 145kb, go to advanced, the manage file to attach, or you can embed them with flickr or photobucket or any other photoshearing site.
 

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I'll throw in my .2 cents worth...
When operating a screwdriver, the push to twist ratio should be:
80% push / 20% twist
If you feel it starting to cam out, STOP.
You need to pull out your diamond tip / laser etched tip / ACR tip / friction powder for help. Again, if you feel it starting to cam out, STOP. At this point, it doesn't matter what brand of screwdriver you have, it will not break loose.
You now have to take out that hand impact driver, or a cordless impact driver, and hope for the best. :)

If your dealing with a lot of phillips screws (#2 for example), I think it's best to have a variety, from different brands. One companies' profile might be more suitable than the other. If the fit is questionable, at least you can choose the screwdriver that has the best fit. I'd probably have the hand impact or cordless impact handy, rather than doing it by hand.



It is not to hard to find their tools in Germany. Think they focus mainly in the European market.

And I presume that was the reason why Rotar was on their way to dropping the polished chrome finish from their Toptul brand. Toptul was not able to carve a niche or take a peice of the pie from the tool market in North America, despite the efforts from Wren Hand Tools or Ultimate Garage. The North American market has been over saturated with too many brands already, so it's hard to break into the market without an all-out campaign that's backed by the manufacturer. It's probably very difficult to sustain a new brand here without such help. You need the brand exposure through national chains/big block stores like NAPA, Carquest, Menards, Home Depot, etc. to make it survive.


Yeah -also surprised me that Snap On are selling them under the "budget" line, when (I think) they sell budget Channel Locks under the Snap On brand? :dunno:

Even Snap-on sells Knipex pliers, but unlike many other rebranded items sold under their name, the pliers are actually sold with "Knipex" stamped on the product. That is unusual for Snap-on. I guess the Knipex brand name is well received in NA, that the name sells itself. MAC also sells pliers from Knipex and it's the same as well.
Perhaps it's an agreement between Knipex and the buyer, that their name must remain on the product.


Ok, i didn´t browse e-bay that much...
What i like is that they seem to be a quite serious company, and they show real pictures from their factory on the web. There are facts about technical items, capacities, production volumes and so on. They seek accreditation from TÜV etc. and their tools follow DIN standards (can´t say if thats difficult? Hi-Fi amplifier DIN standards ie. demands 2 x 6 Watts output). If you take the time to read other Taiwan tool sites, like Jonnesway, it´s more a long romantic story of the hardworking founder, left out in the rain when he was in the US to close a deal! I quote from the Jonnesway site: "Customers were price oriented. Quality seemed to the least concern. One time, Mr. Liao flew 22 hours to the U.S.A. to meet with his potential customer. However, the customer did not spare any time for him on Friday afternoon. He had to wait till Monday morning. Walking on the crowded street under the snowy sky of U.S.A., Mr. Liao carried two 50 kg suitcases and could not even get a taxi. His jacket was covered with snow, his shirt was soaked with sweat, and his night was freezing and hungry."
In that sense, i like the more factual style of Toptul ...
I know this is far from the subject, but you´ve got to be amazed about the different styles of story telling and marketing.

Think about if Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore, Knipex, etc. started today as a company. How would they market their company and win the consumer's respect in this day and age, where there's a myriad tool companies already in existence?

Those companies have a loooong history, some over a century, and their names have been synonymous with quality and dependability.

XXXXXX, a new tool company from Taiwan, has much to prove to the global market that their presence in the tool industry is worthy and is to be reckoned with. To prove that their products meet minimum standards, they always advertise that their stuff meets or exceeds DIN / ISO / ANSI / etc standards. That's just one way for them to advertise their products and company. Well established names like Snap-on or Hazet or Ko-ken don't have to advertise that---people already associate those names with quality and dependability. They have it easy; it's very hard for new companies to flourish, unless they target third world countries where there's a larger potential market.
 
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USAG 194 Toggle Joint End Cutters/ Nippers. These are the model 194004 210mm version. I presume they're the same as the Facom 191A.22EL End-Cutters. The specs on both of those say max 2.5mm Piano wire. These have FiloArmonico Max mm. 3 stamped in them. They seem to work well. I don't have a pair of Knipex High leverage end cutters to test them against though. Luckily I got a deal on them on Ebay so price was pretty good, otherwise they're fairly expensive. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8478036880/in/photostream/
 

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That's exactly what I heard elsewhere. It seems really odd -almost like they don't care to try and penetrate any particular market. Apart from what we've seen Bhae post, I've yet to find anybody selling more than a relatively small selection of their tools. It's unfortunate because the quality and value seem to be excellent.

I can go to a store and buy toptul off the shelf down here in new zealand. It has entered the market pretty big down here.
 

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But this is in fact really off-topic, is Taiwan old world? :evil:

Yes, Taiwan is old world. The Old World includes Asia.

The Old World is the known world in the 15th century before the discovery of the Americas or Australia, basically Africa, Europe and Asia.

;)

I've tried some Toptul combination wrenches and I didn't like the ergonomics at all. They were the earlier style.
But the new style that look similar to the Facom 440 look really nice! I'd like to try them if I ever come across them. Toptul stuff isn't readily available here in Taiwan. Ironic...Everybody in Taiwan won't buy tools unless they're made in Japan!
I think that Toptul would have more luck marketing their brand if it didn't have such a goofy name. Rotar is a much better choice, I think.
 
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Neophyte,

There was a small discussion about these types of compound joint pliers in the past: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=931014&postcount=2201

Thanks pointing me to that page 110 Superautobacs, Useful info on this type of cutter. As far as the USAG's go the edges don't seem to be as well finished Knipex stuff usually is but they do the job. I think the first time I ever saw a pair of the compound joint cutters was a pair of Jung/VBW cutters for cutting sprues in the Rio Grande Jewelers tools catalogue. Unfortunately they're fairely heaby compared to some other cutters like the Knipex cobolt. Somewhat of an issue if you have to carry your tools with you.
 

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These are a few more images of the rest of that USAG screwdriver set, model 330/Se10 Combidrive handle. Can be used as either a regular straight shank screwdriver, or as a T handle driver. The T handle feature is incredibly useful for breaking loose really tight screws. The extra weight of the acetate handle also makes it easy to spin out looser screws once they're initially loosened. It uses 6mm blades like the Wiha system 6/ Drive-loc screwdrivers. Does annoying else make 6mm blade screwdrivers? I think I seen a flip blade one on the Sunflag website, but it was limited to a couple blades. The new USAG 333 Combidrive handles seem to use 1/4 blades. http://www.usag-tools.com/catalog/en/products/details/1156/333/COMBIDRIVE_handgrip Anyone know if the 6mm blades were a European standard. The screwdriver doesn't have a "made in Italy" on it so it might have been made in france by Facom or elsewhere. I can still use Wiha blades if I need different ones, but now that Wiha switched to reversible blades they seem to have discontinued some of the larger blade types. This is my Flickr account in case you want larger photos. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8476958695/in/photostream/
 

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Felco CP Universal Cutters/ General purpose snips. Swiss Made. Just use them for cutting hose, wire mesh, anything I don't want to mess a good pair of scissors or snips on. No compound leverage so more effort to cut metal but simpler to maintain. The steel is definitely harder than that used in Wiss snips now a days, and you can conveniently buy replacement bolts if necessary. The leather pouch is also convenient. It has to be purchased separately but wasn't to expensive. The pouch was USA made. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8476950413/in/photostream/ http://www.felcousa.com/felco/pages/product.page?name=FELCO CP
 

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Garrett Wade "marking knife", "made in France". At least that's what the Garrett Wade Company sold them as. They came in a Right bevel, Left bevel, and Center bevel versions. I didn't think much of them as woodworking marking knives but once I re-edged it and sharpened it up, it held an edge well as long as I wasn't using it to cut materials like fiberglass. Comfortable handle too. I believe it's made by Thiers-Issard, although not absolutely certain. Another company sells similar knives with Thiers name on them that look identical though. The Garrett Wade knives are a bit less expensive. Blade is supposedly surgical steel. Given the edge it holds I sort of wonder if it's made using the lead hardening that some older companies are still allowed to use as a traditional technique. http://www.garrettwade.com/right-bevel-knife/p/19S03.01/ http://www.garrettwade.com/right-bevel-knife/p/19S03.01/ These are the other knives I presume to be identical. http://thebestthings.com/newtools/sabatier_marking_knife.htm
 

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Lastly for today my Facom locking pliers. I knowMonte has posted about these before. I simply posted about them again cause the wide jaw opening has saved my but on a few occasions. In the photo are a pair of 500, 501, and 511. The second photo is to show the jaw opening. They're beautifully finished although I wish Facom would put a spring washer in with the adjustment nut. They nut sometimes gets knocked out of place in tight areas and I have to readjust them. Somewhat annoying if you already need a couple extra hands to do the job that needs to be done. Thankfully made in France instead of china. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8476961695/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8476964301/in/photostream/
 

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My set of wrenches and sockets Stahlwille 1/2":

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Lastly for today my Facom locking pliers. I knowMonte has posted about these before. I simply posted about them again cause the wide jaw opening has saved my but on a few occasions. In the photo are a pair of 500, 501, and 511. The second photo is to show the jaw opening. They're beautifully finished although I wish Facom would put a spring washer in with the adjustment nut. They nut sometimes gets knocked out of place in tight areas and I have to readjust them. Somewhat annoying if you already need a couple extra hands to do the job that needs to be done. Thankfully made in France instead of china.
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Are these handy/easy to use?

I bought a few pairs of the Lock Jaw self adjusting pliers and find them a darn nuisance to use. They have a limited opening capacity and require two hands.
 
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Are these handy/easy to use?

I bought a few pairs of the Lock Jaw self adjusting pliers and find them a darn nuisance to use. They have a limited opening capacity and require two hands.

The main advantage to the Facom Locking pliers is the jaw capacity. There is a groove with notches behind the jaw that allows you to quickly open the jaw for really wide clamping jobs without having to turn the screw all the way back or forth. You still need to adjust the screw once the jaw gets to the wider position though. The capacity is far greater than regular vise grips, even with the 500 model which has the smallest opening. The jaw capacity of the 500 is listed as 50mm for angle, 80mm for hex, and 100mm for round stock. The 511 is listed as 55mm for angle, 100mm for hex, and 120mm for round. You may still need to use two hands, though one to adjust the screw and both to adjust the jaw to the proper groove. Once the Facom pliers are set only one hand might be needed to put the pliers in place and clamp them. At least as long as the adjusting nut doesn't accidentally get turned. I also have a set of Lockjaw pliers and as far as using two hands to get them closed I understand what you mean, other problem is if your trying to but two non flat items against each other they don't always pull the two pieces together fully. As far as the handles having to be opened two wide the Facoms should solve that. An alternative is the Facom T5 Locking pliers. The handles are designed differently so if you have small hands it's far easier to open and close them with one hand. The Jaw capacity would be limited unless you bought multiple models. and neither will eliminate all the problems of the Lockjaws. I have fairly small hands, the pictures should give an indication of grip diameter. It will still require an extra hand to do the initial adjustment to the adjusting nut but they require less force to close once adjusted. sorry for babbling on.
 

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I'll throw in my .2 cents worth...
XXXXXX, a new tool company from Taiwan, has much to prove to the global market that their presence in the tool industry is worthy and is to be reckoned with. To prove that their products meet minimum standards, they always advertise that their stuff meets or exceeds DIN / ISO / ANSI / etc standards. That's just one way for them to advertise their products and company. Well established names like Snap-on or Hazet or Ko-ken don't have to advertise that---people already associate those names with quality and dependability. They have it easy; it's very hard for new companies to flourish, unless they target third world countries where there's a larger potential market.

That´s an interesting thought - I would use storytelling as well, but i still find a story about a sweaty shirt to be off limits :lol:. But very true - it´s hard to be new on a market. You really have to come with something new and different (better). If not there´s only the price to compete on. In that sense, i find Teng Tools strategy smart - sponsor a lot of racing activities - spread your tools in a "pro" environment - set the pricetag at "premium".

Yes, Taiwan is old world. The Old World includes Asia.

The Old World is the known world in the 15th century before the discovery of the Americas or Australia, basically Africa, Europe and Asia.

;)

I know this - you made sophisticated foods and fireworks, while we still were neanderthals here in Europe ;) But i thought that the idea with this thread was not to include "made in PRC"-tools and the like. I´m aware that there´s a big difference between PRC and Taiwan though...

Felco CP Universal Cutters/ General purpose snips. Swiss Made. Just use them for cutting hose, wire mesh, anything I don't want to mess a good pair of scissors or snips on.

Hi Neophyte,
my wife loves garden work and antique roses - the Felco cutter is her #1 tool. The best cutter by far.

The main advantage to the Facom Locking pliers is the jaw capacity. The capacity is far greater than regular vise grips, even with the 500 model which has the smallest opening. The jaw capacity of the 500 is listed as 50mm for angle, 80mm for hex, and 100mm for round stock. The 511 is listed as 55mm for angle, 100mm for hex, and 120mm for round.

:scared: That reminds me of the Steven Spielberg "Jaws" movie. Very nice pliers.
 

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Is it possible to recreate the Gedore blue finish? I have a Gedore socket set (Which looks quite old) that has had the coating worn off. I'd really like to restore it to "as new" condition
 

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The main advantage to the Facom Locking pliers is the jaw capacity. There is a groove with notches behind the jaw that allows you to quickly open the jaw for really wide clamping jobs without having to turn the screw all the way back or forth. You still need to adjust the screw once the jaw gets to the wider position though. The capacity is far greater than regular vise grips, even with the 500 model which has the smallest opening. The jaw capacity of the 500 is listed as 50mm for angle, 80mm for hex, and 100mm for round stock. The 511 is listed as 55mm for angle, 100mm for hex, and 120mm for round. You may still need to use two hands, though one to adjust the screw and both to adjust the jaw to the proper groove. Once the Facom pliers are set only one hand might be needed to put the pliers in place and clamp them. At least as long as the adjusting nut doesn't accidentally get turned. I also have a set of Lockjaw pliers and as far as using two hands to get them closed I understand what you mean, other problem is if your trying to but two non flat items against each other they don't always pull the two pieces together fully. As far as the handles having to be opened two wide the Facoms should solve that. An alternative is the Facom T5 Locking pliers. The handles are designed differently so if you have small hands it's far easier to open and close them with one hand. The Jaw capacity would be limited unless you bought multiple models. and neither will eliminate all the problems of the Lockjaws. I have fairly small hands, the pictures should give an indication of grip diameter. It will still require an extra hand to do the initial adjustment to the adjusting nut but they require less force to close once adjusted. sorry for babbling on.

Excellent, thanks for the info and I appreciate the pictures.

I was worried that they were going to be more awkward than traditional vise grips, but I have now added them to the wish list.

I already have a set of the T5 pliers. They are brilliant.

I still don't know whether I like the Lockjaw pliers yet or not. The disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. They have tried to reinvented the wheel.
 

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Is it possible to recreate the Gedore blue finish? I have a Gedore socket set (Which looks quite old) that has had the coating worn off. I'd really like to restore it to "as new" condition

Pic please. :D
 
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i can do that too with my screwdriver :)



no magic or invisible strings involved... :) just a "Spax" PZ2 screw, "Witte" bit and a 900 gram electric screwdriver :)





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nice quality tools you have accumulated there !

My set of wrenches and sockets Stahlwille 1/2":
wow that´s a very nice (and expensive) set !! :bowdown:

Excellent, thanks for the info and I appreciate the pictures.

I was worried that they were going to be more awkward than traditional vise grips, but I have now added them to the wish list.

I already have a set of the T5 pliers. They are brilliant.

I still don't know whether I like the Lockjaw pliers yet or not. The disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. They have tried to reinvented the wheel.
more choices:
http://www.dolex-vices.com/lock-grip-pliers/large-capacities-lock-grip-pliers/
 

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Hi Neophyte,
my wife loves garden work and antique roses - the Felco cutter is her #1 tool. The best cutter by far.



:scared: That reminds me of the Steven Spielberg "Jaws" movie. Very nice pliers.[/QUOTE]

Understandable, I have some vines I have to trim back on a routine basis and using a pair of USA made Corona pruning shears was a chore. I got a pair of Felco Swiss made #13 shears and it made the job pleasant enough that I actually do it on frequent basis. The ergonomics really can't be beat. Yeah the Facoms are nice and the do look like a fish. I keep wondering if that's what the designers at Facom were thinking of when they designed them. Some other Facom tools seem to have a look that falls somewhere in the range of Beautiful, cartoonish, and/or hideous but I can't always decide which. This is a picture of the Felco shears.http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8480668820/in/photostream
 

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nice quality tools you have accumulated there !





Thanks monte, I have some other tools as well but still nothing like your collection. Does the Festool warranty cover for impact damage if the bit slips out of the screw.
 
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Excellent, thanks for the info and I appreciate the pictures.

I was worried that they were going to be more awkward than traditional vise grips, but I have now added them to the wish list.

I already have a set of the T5 pliers. They are brilliant.

I still don't know whether I like the Lockjaw pliers yet or not. The disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. They have tried to reinvented the wheel.

I think the main advantage of the Lockjaws is stuff that doesn't need to be clamped as securely, but were it has to be done quickly and you don't have time to adjust the screw. Alternately if your welding or riveting a long seem and holding it together with multiple pairs of vise grips, You can use a pair of pliers in one hand to temporarily hold the pieces together tightly and then use the auto-adjusting Lockjaws to clamp the pieces. The lockjaws essentially eliminate the need to adjust multiple pairs of pliers if you do a lot of welds or joints.
 

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After seeing the Stahlwille ductility test you youtube, I couldn't help but want to play too.


So all I needed was one poor, unsuspecting Stahlwille spanner-

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This little fella didn't know what he had got himself into.


His first bend was quite disappointing as he broke after only a relatively small bend-

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He did much better on his next few bends-

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I then took his small bit on the left and bend it until it broke-

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I then straightened his longer bit. Note, his chrome did stay intact ( apart from the marks caused by holding him in the vise) -

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I then twisted his longer bit and he snapped after just over 1/4 of a turn -

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The aftermath-

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And please note that no Stahlwilles were hurt during my drunken stupor-

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And what did I learn from all this?

:dunno:
 
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Nice! The first stubby open end wrench.


In Whitworth sizes which makes it even more useful.

Do you want to also try with this one? :D

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What have you done? You have wrecked it ;)

Very nearly 360 degrees. I see that as a target, but unfortunately I'm too attached to my 10mm gedore.

However, they do sell 90 degree twisted wrenches in the states, so imagine what a 360 degree one would be worth :lol_hitti
 
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In Whitworth sizes which makes it even more useful.


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What have you done? You have wrecked it ;)
Very nearly 360 degrees. I see that as a target, but unfortunately I'm too attached to my 10mm gedore.

I didn't do it. It's not mine. A friend of me did this when Ι showed him the same video.

I'm sure it can be bent even more. I stop him to take a pic and then he left it. I'll try it some day.:D
 

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Ive noticed alot of comments regarding the video I posted, alot of "Whats your point" type comments. I think the video is just showing the ductility of the tool, its ability to deform before failure.

I like my stahlwille's very nice wrenches.
 

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Ive noticed alot of comments regarding the video I posted, alot of "Whats your point" type comments. I think the video is just showing the ductility of the tool, its ability to deform before failure.

I like my stahlwille's very nice wrenches.

Exactly, it is dangerous if it break.
 

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Ive noticed alot of comments regarding the video I posted, alot of "Whats your point" type comments. I think the video is just showing the ductility of the tool, its ability to deform before failure.

I completely understand the point of the original video and I made no comments to suggest otherwise.

What they didn't show was just how ductile they were. Simple answer - just enough to provide safety.

I remember someone on the last thread asked if the chrome would stay intact if straightened after bending. Yes it did.

Beyond that - meh. This is not something you can realistically do with your bare hands. However I do enjoy breaking things and testing things to their limit when it is done on purpose.

I will break a few other brands and see how they compare to the Stahlwille.
 
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Today's car-boot bargains:

Matador cantilever box. Been repainted (badly) but in good shape. Very solid and heavy. Cost £4 :thumbup:

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Everything below cost a whopping £15 total :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Basically the guy wanted £10 for one vice, £5 for the other, and I got the rest thrown in for free.

Accles & Shelvoke machine vice
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Mystery vice in rough shape, but at least it was cheap

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Facom adjustable spanner -seems to have had very little if any use

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Homage to Monte;13mm Gedore

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Draper 1/4" breaker bar (to hold me over until I find a deal on a nicer one)
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Nice haul CanUK. I dig that Accles & Shelvoke vice. Old?

Found one on ebay that has been up for £50 for a while.
 

CanUK

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Nice haul CanUK. I dig that Accles & Shelvoke vice. Old?

Found one on ebay that has been up for £50 for a while.

I saw that one on ebay as well today -trying to find a bit more info on this one. No idea how old it is, but it seems these days the company makes "Humane slaughter equipment, captive bolt stunners and cable spikers".

I'll (eventually) get around to taking it apart, cleaning it up and repainting. The mystery vice will just get a clean and lube and more abuse :)
 
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