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jimmyin3D

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Jimmy I really like that 147-62-200, I have the KNIPEX one and I found it too big for vacuum lines for instance

Doing some search on the NWS I found at KCTOOLS the -205 bot 200 (not that big of a difference in length) where did you buy yours? Thanks

Sorry it was a typo the 205 is the correct part number. And yes I found the same thing with the Knipex pliers, too large for most applications.

KC tool co is good, I’ve bought from them before and they ship reasonably quick. I bought mine through amazon.de
 
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Hi everyone, I'm wondering whether the Hazet's files are made by themselves or they rebranded from another manufacturer as I see exactly the same files from Gedore.
(Sorry, I couldn't post direct link due to the rule)

Hazet :
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Gedore :
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Both pictures show files with the imprint "Made by Pferd" .... :)
 

mr.lemons

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Regarding the Pferd.

I think ward/key in this instance mean the same thing as wards are parts inside locks.

Looks like Pferd make 100mm 'Machinist' files that are 2.5mm thick. The key files are 1.4mm thick. I was assuming that key/ward/needle were all just general terms for small files. Live and learn.
 

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Magnetic extension for Wiha micro bit holder.

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Cut a little off the extension to make the driver a more familiar length.

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Still holds onto the bit storage securely.

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Regarding the Pferd.

I think ward/key in this instance mean the same thing as wards are parts inside locks.

Looks like Pferd make 100mm 'Machinist' files that are 2.5mm thick. The key files are 1.4mm thick. I was assuming that key/ward/needle were all just general terms for small files. Live and learn.

Yes, same thing I think. Warding file is a British term, not sure about “Key File”. Not a term I’ve seen that often historically. Yes, the “wards” are the internal parts of a “warded lock” that are matched to the individual key.

Needle files are the small files with the integral round handle. Normally the smallest size used in general engineering. There are smaller files (escapement files) but they are a bit specialist.

Warding files are a little larger, but not much thicker. These are usually the smallest files with a tang and separate handle. Many cheap files are styled “warding files” but the only reason they are thin is because they are cheap! The Habilis files with the integral handle are much nicer to use, much thicker, and of course cut much better!

After that you’re into “precision files” or “engineers files” which are basically regular files with a tang and separate handle, usually in sizes from 4 inch up!

There are all sorts of specialist files too, such as “rifflers”.

I have examples of all, having spent a large chunk of my life filing things, fitting things, and probably making things that should have been made with a milling machine...
 

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Magnetic extension for Wiha micro bit holder.

The adapter is press fit and should not fall apart. That's a disappointment. The variance along the length is not good but not as surprising.

The Taiwan COO makes me wonder if other tools are now just Poland/German handles stuck on Taiwan parts.
 

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Sorry it was a typo the 205 is the correct part number. And yes I found the same thing with the Knipex pliers, too large for most applications.

KC tool co is good, I’ve bought from them before and they ship reasonably quick. I bought mine through amazon.de

Thanks
 

mr.lemons

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The adapter is press fit and should not fall apart. That's a disappointment. The variance along the length is not good but not as surprising.

The Taiwan COO makes me wonder if other tools are now just Poland/German handles stuck on Taiwan parts.

Had to use a bit of shim steel to permanently attach the bit holder. Agree, it's sad to see the way Wiha is going. Cannot blame them for wanting to expand and make money, but it's disappointing for German tool fans.
 

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Picked up a couple Garant Swiss-made 0.3×2.0 slotted drivers today. No other sizes available, sadly. They look like PB Swiss to me.
 

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Gilbow 14" straight and right hand tin snips. Made in Sheffield England.

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Quick test on 1.5mm stainless. I have an earlier pair of these passed down from my Grandad. They last forever, and they are cheap/common at autojumbles and ebay. The 14 inch handles make for easy cutting.

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Pferd 200m file. No coo on file or packaging.

Info from Pferd website... 8 domestic and foreign production locations:
Marienheide and Hermeskeil (Germany), Vitoria and Araia (Spain), Milwaukee (USA), Johannesburg (South Africa), St. Petersburg (Russia), Changli (China).


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Nice, but surprisingly squishy rubber handle.

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Vessel impact bits. Bought to use in a manual impact driver.

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Shipped from Japan with a little gift inside.

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For info... Dividers in metal socket cases are spot welded in place, so require a bit of grinding to remove them.

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Porterson

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mr.lemons, looks like than not only me likes your pictures.
Just accidentally to come across on the Internet. :)

facebook.com/PBSWISSTOOLSTHAILAND/posts/3478414405582693

facebook.com/PBSWISSTOOLSTHAILAND/posts/3531078370316296

P.S. I am not allowed to use private messages
 

mr.lemons

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mr.lemons, looks like than not only me likes your pictures.
Just accidentally to come across on the Internet. :)

facebook.com/PBSWISSTOOLSTHAILAND/posts/3478414405582693

facebook.com/PBSWISSTOOLSTHAILAND/posts/3531078370316296

P.S. I am not allowed to use private messages

Wow, is that the official Thai PB facebook page? They must have a lazy social media team. :lol_hitti
 

mr.lemons

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Minicraft 9-18v rotary tool. West Germany.

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Tiny, but mighty SAK. One of the 101 uses.

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Zeca spring balancer. Italian brand, Chinese production, two months delivery delay. Decent quality, but I'm not sure if I will ever order something else from them.

 
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mr.lemons

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Vallorbe 200mm files. No COO. Assuming Swiss made. Not sure if Vallorbe outsources any of their manufacturing.

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Wanted to try a tapered flat file, but not really sure what the function of the taper is. To get into very slightly smaller spaces? :dunno:

I assume it’s an “Ambassador” with black scales that has had the nail file reshaped?

Yes, yes and yes. Keen eye. I didn't like the pointy (nail cleaner/phillips) file tip. Made it slotted like a classic, more for prying than slotted screws. + cut off the keyring loop.


Stihl GTA 26 mini chainsaw

Looks like fun. Soon going to be gardening time again.
 

Dave455

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Yes, yes and yes. Keen eye. I didn't like the pointy (nail cleaner/phillips) file tip. Made it slotted like a classic, more for prying than slotted screws. + cut off the keyring loop.
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That’s a good mod!

I like that size of SAK. They’re just big enough to be useful on real tasks (the “classic” series are just too small) but still small enough and slim enough to carry in a shirt pocket.

I’ve haven’t seen the Ambassador in black before though!
 

Nigelhirst

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Pretty cool mini chainsaw.

I wonder how many cuts that batt can do though.

I used one to trim a hedge, on and off, over 30 minutes. Used one of the four ‘power’ lights, and it recharged in a few minutes. So I would say the battery life was good.
One of my neighbours has one and he managed to break two teeth off the chain accidentally hitting a piece of metal, so I guess the chains are the weaker link (pun intended).
Nigel
 

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New C.K Rescue Nut & Bolt Extractor Set. T4360.

I haven't seen this type before. Looks like they could be difficult to hammer on without bashing your fingers.

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Two new 'Smart Cases' from Hazet.

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mr.lemons

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More files.

According to the seller... NOS Stubs and Spearfile needle files from the Peter Stubs factory which closed in the 90s.

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New C.K Rescue Nut & Bolt Extractor Set. T4360.

I haven't seen this type before. Looks like they could be difficult to hammer on without bashing your fingers.

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Couldn't they be held in position on the fastener using a wrench to avoid bashing your fingers?

Hard to see in the pic, but is the 17mm tool that is resting on the bolt head, already split/broken?

Tostal~
 

mr.lemons

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Dremel EZ SpeedClic grinder and cutting discs.

Mandrel Taiwan, discs China.

Hoping these cutting discs don't explode as often as the standard discs.

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measuredtwice

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Two new 'Smart Cases' from Hazet.

They look a little top heavy. I wonder if it's easy to knock over.

I like the way the Hazet Porsche cases open with the handles sticking out. Never used them though. I've just seen them in photos and thought they looked cool.
 

mr.lemons

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BLU-DAN 200m file.

Random Amazon purchase. Large price drop + European manufacturer I hadn't heard of.

From history on the BLU-DAN website..... There were two file companies in Europe: I.Braun's Söhne in Austria since 1792 and Tomé Fèteira in Portugal since 1856. I.Braun's Söhne bought out Tomé Fèteira and moved all production over to Portugal due to the lower costs. BLU-DAN name came about in 1952.

Website looks to have not been updated for a while.
http://www.bludan.com/

So COO maybe Portugal. :dunno:

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