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Spongebob89

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Hello,
do you know where can I find an old used RPM Indicator like this in the below image. There was any good brand back in this time?
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four.cycle

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Spongebob89 said:
do you know where can I find an old used RPM Indicator like this in the below image. There was any good brand back in this time

F. Chandler, Boston, MA / speed indicator / patent 282067 Jul 31 1883 Charles H. Fowler /

George W. Church Co., 109 Fulton St., New York, NY / speed indicator / patent 527207 Oct 9 1894 William Lang /

Connecticut Cutlery Co., Naucatuck, CT / pocket knives, speed indicator /

Tabor Mfg. Co., New York, NY / Speed Indicator / patent 325991 Sep 8 1885 Harris Tabor /

L.S. Starrett Co., 121 Crescent St., Athol, MA 01331-1915 / https://www.starrett.com/ / est. 1880 / patent http://alloy-artifacts.org/other-makers-p3.html#starrett / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/ls-starrett-co-and-not-a-vise.391577/ /
 

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@Eone While most others said your Format wrenches might be Stahlwille, I honestly doubt it. The only Stahlwille thing about them is the "hollowed" out Beam. On the other hand, the finish looks wrong, Stahlwille usually engraved the sizes in the past, only recently they added them in the casting. The shape of the open End does also look wrong to me. All examples of Stahlwille wrenches I could find, have a very distinct, consistent geometry, while yours are a little rounder and less consistent.
Sadly, I don´t know the OEM either. Finish, and the font of the "GERMANY" look very Gedore to me, the shape of the Box Ends, and the fact that they are OEM, I think WGB might also be possible.
I think your Würth spanners could also be Heyco made, rather than Belzer, comparing them to the Heyco Maxline wrenches.
 

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@Eone While most others said your Format wrenches might be Stahlwille, I honestly doubt it. The only Stahlwille thing about them is the "hollowed" out Beam. On the other hand, the finish looks wrong, Stahlwille usually engraved the sizes in the past, only recently they added them in the casting. The shape of the open End does also look wrong to me. All examples of Stahlwille wrenches I could find, have a very distinct, consistent geometry, while yours are a little rounder and less consistent.
Sadly, I don´t know the OEM either. Finish, and the font of the "GERMANY" look very Gedore to me, the shape of the Box Ends, and the fact that they are OEM, I think WGB might also be possible.
I think your Würth spanners could also be Heyco made, rather than Belzer, comparing them to the Heyco Maxline wrenches.
We assumed Stahlwille but not 100% sure. BTW thanks for your opinion.
 

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Got my Laser Punch. It's laser embossed design in England or something to that effect - don't have it in front of me.

There is no COO - same with the Facom Etorx ratchet set in it. I cannot find nary a marking of COO.
 

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Got 3 little thingy, new old stock items, produced in West Germany. Elora 1/2" 26 mm 6pt and Elora 3/8" 19mm I got it for free. Bought Hazet deep wall socket 3/8" 10mm for around USD 4.67.
 

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azuh

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The shown window scraper, Handy MK2 manufactured by Jydsk Barberblade-Fabrik A/S in Denmark, could be about 30 years old (definitely more than 20). I was somewhat surprised to find that not only is the company still in business but the same model is still being made (and spare blades are widely available).

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Now for something completely different. I was able to find a set of 1/2" impact sockets in metric sizes by Toptul for a reasonable price. As for SAE sizes, Toptul makes them, both long-reach and normal, but no one seems to sell them in EU :( What would you suggest as an alternative (not Chinese but not super expensive either, usage is infrequent)?
 
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Howe

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The shown window scraper, Handy MK2 manufactured by Jydsk Barberblade-Fabrik A/S in Denmark, could be about 30 years old (definitely more than 20). I was somewhat surprised to find that not only is the company still in business but the same model is still being made (and spare blades are widely available).

handymk2.jpg

Now for something completely different. I was able to find a set of 1/2" impact sockets in metric sizes by Toptul for a reasonable price. As for SAE sizes, Toptul makes them, both long-reach and normal, but no one seems to sell them in EU :( What would you suggest as an alternative (not Chinese but not super expensive either, usage is infrequent)?
I think you can find NOS Elora SAE socket set
 

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Now for something completely different. I was able to find a set of 1/2" impact sockets in metric sizes by Toptul for a reasonable price. As for SAE sizes, Toptul makes them, both long-reach and normal, but no one seems to sell them in EU :( What would you suggest as an alternative (not Chinese but not super expensive either, usage is infrequent)?
For impact sockets I tend to favour either KoKen (made in Japan) or Deltec (made in England).

KoKen are excellent, and offer nice sets in steel boxes. Metric and SAE are available. I’ve used these for some years and they last well. I’m sure they will have an importer or dealer in Finland

Deltec are also excellent, but are geared to industrial customers so tend to offer less sets. The prices are not loaded if you buy individually though. They offer Metric, SAE, Whitworth, 6 point, 12 point, square, bi square, regular depth, semi deep, deep - pretty much anything really!

Deltec also last well and are pretty much my “go to” now. They’re used by a lot of British industrial customers, and on the railways. They will take heavy usage, but are quite affordable. If they don’t have an importer in Finland I’m sure they will supply direct!
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Spongebob89

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Hello,
I want to buy a mafel cordless drill but it has two models where the one is called impact (i think is hammer and not impact drill). A guy has told me that the simple drills have more precision on drilling holes than hammer drill but I am not sure that this assumption is right. If the hammer option on a drill has no impact on his functionality, then why companies make always two models where by the way the price is the same?


Cordless Impact Drill Driver ASB 18 in the T-MAX

Cordless Drill Driver A 18 in the T-MAX

Anyone to know about this?
 

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Anyone to know about this?
The hammer function usually ads a set of toothed gears within the gear housing.
The chuck arbor, stead of being fixed in place, can move forward and backward along with the drill chuck.
Switching on the hammer drill function usually involves releasing a stop that prevents the Arbor and chuck from moving backwards and forwards, which allows pressure on the chuck to force the chick backwards, so the tooothed set of gears interact, creating the hammering function.
On older corded drills, the hammer function was sometimes just an extra “box”, attacked to the front of the gear housing.
On other drill models, the gear housing is a different part number, and possibly larger than a non hammering version of the drill.
The hammer action ads extra parts, complexity, and weight.
Since the drill chuck and arbor have to be able to move forward and backward, there is usually a tiny bit of extra play perpendicular to the arbor, which can get looser over time as the hammer function is used.
Only one of the Mafell drills listed has a weight listed.
On cordless drills, the gear housing is usually way mire compact than regular corded drills (usually with smaller gears and more plastic).
I’ve never used a cordless hammer drill enough to kill a gear box or wear one out.
The Mafell cordless drills used to be rebranded Metabo drills, with a few changes, but I don’t know if the drills still are.
On the Metabo drills, and a lot of other cordless tools nowadays, the gear housing wasn’t considered repairable, and the entire assembly would simply get replaced if something broke.
 

dutchgray

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For impact sockets I tend to favour either KoKen (made in Japan) or Deltec (made in England).

KoKen are excellent, and offer nice sets in steel boxes. Metric and SAE are available. I’ve used these for some years and they last well. I’m sure they will have an importer or dealer in Finland

Deltec are also excellent, but are geared to industrial customers so tend to offer less sets. The prices are not loaded if you buy individually though. They offer Metric, SAE, Whitworth, 6 point, 12 point, square, bi square, regular depth, semi deep, deep - pretty much anything really!

Deltec also last well and are pretty much my “go to” now. They’re used by a lot of British industrial customers, and on the railways. They will take heavy usage, but are quite affordable. If they don’t have an importer in Finland I’m sure they will supply direct!
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I have one Deltic impact socket, a deep 30mm 3/4" drive that is permanently attached to a 1/2" adapter and used on an cordless impact wrench for tightening the stanchion foundation bolts on the steel frame buildings I work on sometimes (I do the concrete work so they get used to build the bolt set up on the template, then after concrete remove the nuts, remove the template, pull the waxed cones out, nuts back on, use a pipe to wobble the bolts around so they move so the stanchion can be bumped into alignment)
So low torque but I need the length of socket broach.

Deltic, in true British tool company fashion a good product that hardly anyone knows about.
 

Reed Prince

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A while ago I decided to try to find screwdrivers that really fit the combination slotted/something else screws I find in electrical terminals. Long story short, nothing I encounter in the USA appears to be slotted/phillips, DIN rail components are slotted/pozidriv, and American electrical outlets more often than not are slotted/square and are best engaged by my lone Milwaukee.

During the process of figuring this out I discovered and became a big fan of Felo's E-Slim series of drivers. Their small handles can be spun quicker and easier than standard handles, which are optimized for higher torque applications. They also have the nicest cushioning and all the shafts have the end of the insulation flush with the tip.



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Dave455

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A while ago I decided to try to find screwdrivers that really fit the combination slotted/something else screws I find in electrical terminals. Long story short, nothing I encounter in the USA appears to be slotted/phillips, DIN rail components are slotted/pozidriv, and American electrical outlets more often than not are slotted/square and are best engaged by my lone Milwaukee.

During the process of figuring this out I discovered and became a big fan of Felo's E-Slim series of drivers. Their small handles can be spun quicker and easier than standard handles, which are optimized for higher torque applications. They also have the nicest cushioning and all the shafts have the end of the insulation flush with the tip.



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I must admit I like Facom “Borneo” drivers for these combination screws. They offer slotted / Phillips or slotted / Pozidriv.
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The drivers with the flush insulation are the way to go if you want insulated drivers. Wiha offer theirs with both types of combination tip too, though personally I’d want such similar tips colour coded differently!
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Steve_P

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A while ago I decided to try to find screwdrivers that really fit the combination slotted/something else screws I find in electrical terminals. Long story short, nothing I encounter in the USA appears to be slotted/phillips, DIN rail components are slotted/pozidriv, and American electrical outlets more often than not are slotted/square and are best engaged by my lone Milwaukee.

During the process of figuring this out I discovered and became a big fan of Felo's E-Slim series of drivers. Their small handles can be spun quicker and easier than standard handles, which are optimized for higher torque applications. They also have the nicest cushioning and all the shafts have the end of the insulation flush with the tip.



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I use the Wiha Xeno, or slotted / phillips, and find they work great on the screws on US outlets and switches. You are mostly using the slotted function to do the work, but the phillips portion keeps it centered in the slot. I see them in your picture, so I'm surprised that you weren't happy with them. OTOH, this is GJ, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Wiha also makes a slotted pozi combo; I haven't tried that yet, but I'm happy with the Xeno so I don't guess I will.
 

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A while ago I decided to try to find screwdrivers that really fit the combination slotted/something else screws I find in electrical terminals. Long story short, nothing I encounter in the USA appears to be slotted/phillips, DIN rail components are slotted/pozidriv, and American electrical outlets more often than not are slotted/square and are best engaged by my lone Milwaukee.
Does your Milwaukee have an ECX tip?


......ECX bits are designed to fit a specific type of combination head screws that you see on many electrical components and terminals screws.....
 
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