Tools from the old world

[Snakevz]

Knipex 95 62 190 wire rope shears
Bahco 319 hacksaw (only Bahco hacksaw in store that is made in Sweden...)

 

[Beerhippie]

Picked this one today:





Only mark on them. I'm betting that's not post-reunification Germany.

They're waiting their turn in the electrolysis vat.

 

[PiotrxV]

This handle looks comfortable.

 

[Monte]

Metabo factory tour:

(starts at around 10:30)

 

[Beerhippie]

Picked this one today:





Only mark on them. I'm betting that's not post-reunification Germany.

They're waiting their turn in the electrolysis vat.

I gave the old rule a bath in the ultrasonic cleaner with lye followed by phos acid last night. A good rub-down with 4-0 steel wool this AM got it back to shiny steel, which I didn't much like, so I hit it with some KleenBore Black Magic cold gun black then another rub down with the steel wool.



Looks much better, but I didn't reveal any more markings.

 

[F-22]

Knipex 95 62 190 wire rope shears
Bahco 319 hacksaw (only Bahco hacksaw in store that is made in Sweden...)

I wonder if it's actually made entirely in Sweden. If so, that's quite interesting. I saw 2 types of bahco saws in my local hardware shop recently, both seemed to have been made in china but the blades were swedish. They were a different design though (seemed older and more "simple" metal construction).

Metabo factory tour:

(starts at around 10:30)

Those kinds of youtube thumbnails make me want to never open the video. It's interesting but the thumbnail would make me expect it is made for idiots and children??

 

[Monte]

Those kinds of youtube thumbnails make me want to never open the video. It's interesting but the thumbnail would make me expect it is made for idiots and children??

you´re right but in this case it´s an interesting 3 hour Metabo factory tour

 

[F-22]

you´re right but in this case it´s an interesting 3 hour Metabo factory tour

Didn't want to be misunderstood - the video is fine, I'm just in general disappointed in what youtube has turned into. Kind of expect it for tech videos because of the target audience but not as much for a video about Metabo...

 

[Snakevz]

This handle looks comfortable.

Yes, it fits in hand pretty nicely
Also, its really lightweight

I wonder if it's actually made entirely in Sweden. If so, that's quite interesting. I saw 2 types of bahco saws in my local hardware shop recently, both seemed to have been made in china but the blades were swedish. They were a different design though (seemed older and more "simple" metal construction).

Well, label on which says that it's made in Sweden is of entire saw.
On blade is also written that it is made in Sweden...
On official website is picture with sticker on frame of the saw that says Made in Sweden, but mine doesn't have sticker, company logo and model number is embossed in frame...

Professional Hand Hacksaw Frames with Soft Grip Handle 300 mm

{ "1": "Professional Hand Hacksaw Frames with Soft Grip Handle 300 mm" }

www.bahco.com

 

[Loga_3]

I wonder if it's actually made entirely in Sweden. If so, that's quite interesting. I saw 2 types of bahco saws in my local hardware shop recently, both seemed to have been made in china but the blades were swedish. They were a different design though (seemed older and more "simple" metal construction).

I'm not sure about the cast metal parts, but all the plastic bits are Swedish made. In Bollnäs i believe. And of course the blade itself, witch is made in the SNA factory in Lidköping.

 

[Steve_P]

I have a Bahco 325 hacksaw and it was made in Sweden. Mine is ~10 years old, but I just looked on Amazon and multiple reviews, including one from 2023, said it was made in Sweden. I have several different packs of TPI blades for it and all are made in Sweden.

I don't use a hacksaw a lot, but it's like the BMW of hacksaws. I know, BMW isn't Swedish, but it's really nice when compared to the typical cheap POS hacksaw that I'd always used in the past.

 

[Qualitytools]

I have a Craftsman saw made in Sweden looks exactly like that one except for the color.

 

[Monte]

Bahco seem to make some cast alumium parts/tools still in Sweden. The 625 and 650 scrapers are still from Sweden. The 319 and 325 saws should be too.
According to Snap On they are:

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

 

[neophyte]

Yes, it fits in hand pretty nicely
Also, its really lightweight


Well, label on which says that it's made in Sweden is of entire saw.
On blade is also written that it is made in Sweden...
On official website is picture with sticker on frame of the saw that says Made in Sweden, but mine doesn't have sticker, company logo and model number is embossed in frame...

Professional Hand Hacksaw Frames with Soft Grip Handle 300 mm

{ "1": "Professional Hand Hacksaw Frames with Soft Grip Handle 300 mm" }

www.bahco.com

I have a couple different Bahco made hacksaws from 20+ years ago.
Both were specified as “Made in Sweden” when I purchased them.
I know a bunch of Bahco tool manufacturing has been moved out of Sweden, but maybe the aluminum casting was left in Sweden, or maybe the hacksaw frames were made by a subcontractor in Sweden, and that subcontractor is still making the saw frames?
Snap-On (who now owns Bahco as part of Snap-On Europe, lists the Snap-On branded version of the saw country of origin “SWE”, which presumably means Sweden).
The same gies for the blades for the interchangeable blade carpenter’s style hand saw, although Snap-On no longer sells the full saws or handles.

 

[F-22]

This is very nice to know, I thought Bahco does not manufacture anything in Sweden anymore (except for the saw blades). I have their old rebranded swedish made morakniv knifes but I saw the new ones are made in china. Nice to know some things are still made there. Though I'm not sure if they actually have any factory or if it is just swedish sub-contractors for each individual product.

 

[Loga_3]

This is very nice to know, I thought Bahco does not manufacture anything in Sweden anymore (except for the saw blades). I have their old rebranded swedish made morakniv knifes but I saw the new ones are made in china. Nice to know some things are still made there. Though I'm not sure if they actually have any factory or if it is just swedish sub-contractors for each individual product.

Not to worry thou, the real Morakniv are still made in Sweden, and most of them still uses Swedish steel too!

 

[oldpliers1]

Bahco / berg collection late 40s till now most model changes including the hard to find 9 inch

 

[Loga_3]

Bahco / berg collection late 40s till now most model changes including the hard to find 9 inch

An old Berg catalog in English from 1948 that might interest you:

https://hyvelmuseum.madcap.se/PDF/1948%20Berg%20t%C3%A4nger%20USA.pdf

 

[F-22]

An old Berg catalog in English from 1948 that might interest you:

https://hyvelmuseum.madcap.se/PDF/1948%20Berg%20t%C3%A4nger%20USA.pdf

I seem to own the 515 model. Very nice quality pliers for sure. Adjustable for wear and sharpening too!

Any other tool company in Sweden that still produces stuff?

 

[Loga_3]

Only a few left:
Momento - Impact sockets.
Hultafors - Folding rulers.
SKF - Although not a tool maker, still have some machining done in Sweden.
Ballograf - If a pen counts as a tool.
Might be a few more that i can't think of right now.

 

[PiotrxV]

Only a few left:
Momento - Impact sockets.
Hultafors - Folding rulers.
SKF - Although not a tool maker, still have some machining done in Sweden.
Ballograf - If a pen counts as a tool.
Might be a few more that i can't think of right now.

Sandvik Coromant, Erix, Seco, Pressmaster is making crimping tools for few companies ( I know them from Cimco ).

 

[oldpliers1]

I am not a Bahco / EA Berg specialist or very knowledgeable I gather these are from the late forties knowing the previous owner and knowing he bought them as a Apprentice . 597-7 with “ insulated stalks”

 

[oldpliers1]

I first saw these items in 1978 can one of the Bahco experts please tell me when they were first issued please? I have seen the green Lindstrom version, they were 35% more costly than the American pliers at the time so they were not a big seller , and their was a Australian copy for half the price at the same time . They came from a tool store in the desert . Regards

 

[oldpliers1]

I thought these were from the early eighties could someone please put a date on them ? From the desert tool store , and I have a few doubles . Regards

 

[neophyte]

I thought these were from the early eighties could someone please put a date on them ? From the desert tool store , and I have a few doubles . Regards

I can’t say for certain about the age, particularly regarding the pliers.
The screwdrivers look like the Bahco “Ergo” designs, which date back to maybe 1990 or possibly earlier.
Bahco still uses the “Ergo” branding, but the screwdrivers nowadays have rubberized grips.
Those appear to have the older, all plastic grip design.
From Google books, it looks like the Bahco Ergo screwdrivers with plastic handles might have been introduced around 1990-91.
By the late 1990s the dual material rubberized handles might have been introduced.

 

[neophyte]

I thought these were from the early eighties could someone please put a date on them ? From the desert tool store , and I have a few doubles . Regards

Upon further research, it looks like the handle design has a design patent filed in March 1982, and issued in October 1984.
The designers were Hans Himbert, and Bengt Palmgren.
The patent was assigned to AB Bahco Verktyg.

I have no clue when production on the screwdrivers would have actually started.
Sandvik purchased Bahco back in 1991.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/8c/1b/d0/654e79622ecde1/USD275932.pdf

USD275932S - Screw driver handle - Google Patents

The corporate name changed to Sandvik Bahco after the purchase by Sandvik, although I’m not sure how quickly the packaging would have been updated.

 

[oldpliers1]

Upon further research, it looks like the handle design has a design patent filed in March 1982, and issued in October 1984.
The designers were Hans Himbert, and Bengt Palmgren.
The patent was assigned to AB Bahco Verktyg.

I have no clue when production on the screwdrivers would have actually started.
Sandvik purchased Bahco back in 1991.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/8c/1b/d0/654e79622ecde1/USD275932.pdf

USD275932S - Screw driver handle - Google Patents

The corporate name changed to Sandvik Bahco after the purchase by Sandvik, although I’m not sure how quickly the packaging would have been updated.

Thank you very much for that information I thought early eighties it was the same time the German 1000 volt square handle screwdrivers came out the first of the VDE tools and they were a great seller . With regards the Bahco ones I posted they are extremely well made and sadly did not sell well as quality comes at a price . Regards

 

[oldpliers1]

While we are talking Sandvik AB here are some pliers of interest I am not sure of age maybe the 90s .regards

 

[oldpliers1]

This is very nice to know, I thought Bahco does not manufacture anything in Sweden anymore (except for the saw blades). I have their old rebranded swedish made morakniv knifes but I saw the new ones are made in china. Nice to know some things are still made there. Though I'm not sure if they actually have any factory or if it is just swedish sub-contractors for each individual product.

I find the whole Tiapra / Bahco story highly interesting setting up a factory in India in 1969 with Bahco design and oversight but not the Bahco name.

 

[Spongebob89]

Hello, I want to lubricate some silicone O-rings and I read on the internet that the silicone grease if applied on silicone O-rings or seals can swelling or softening them. Is that true and if yes which grease type is the proper for silicone O-rings or seals lubrication?

 

[oldpliers1]

Hello, I want to lubricate some silicone O-rings and I read on the internet that the silicone grease if applied on silicone O-rings or seals can swelling or softening them. Is that true and if yes which grease type is the proper for silicone O-rings or seals lubrication?

I use singer sewing machine oil on our hose seals ( Storz fittings at our fire station ) it lubricates the seal and makes the coupling very easy to connect by hand . Just a tiny smear on the seal .

 

[Spongebob89]

I use singer sewing machine oil on our hose seals ( Storz fittings at our fire station ) it lubricates the seal and makes the coupling very easy to connect by hand . Just a tiny smear on the seal .

There is something in grease form?

 

[PiotrxV]

Hello, I want to lubricate some silicone O-rings and I read on the internet that the silicone grease if applied on silicone O-rings or seals can swelling or softening them. Is that true and if yes which grease type is the proper for silicone O-rings or seals lubrication?

Molykote 55 is designed for o-rings and its a silicon grease. What is really bad for o-rings is any grease that is containing lithium for example.

 

[oldpliers1]

There is something in grease form?

No grease is not fit for purpose , ( that’s my purpose not others) I hope it works well for your purpose.

 

[Spongebob89]

Molykote 55 is designed for o-rings and its a silicon grease. What is really bad for o-rings is any grease that is containing lithium for example.

Molykote 55 seems very quality grease. Also, I have the liqui-moly 3312 Silicone Grease Transparent where it is a very good grease for me.

Thanks for your reply.

 

[Etchase]

I like this.

 

[Spongebob89]

I like this.

In compare to Molykote 55 is this better?

 

[Etchase]

In compare to Molykote 55 is this better?

They are indistinguishable to me. I tend to stick with one until I run into some unanticipated compatibility issue, and then I start learning about compatibility again! Been using the Super Lube about a decade without problems, so I’m probably 10 years behind.

 

[Steve_P]

Molykote 55 is designed for o-rings and its a silicon grease. What is really bad for o-rings is any grease that is containing lithium for example.

This is what I use also. The problem is that it only comes in a giant tube and, because of that, it's expensive. I really wish it came in a "travel size" tube instead of the mega-family tube. Even if I live another 100 years, I'll never use it all at home.

 

[Spongebob89]

This is what I use also. The problem is that it only comes in a giant tube and, because of that, it's expensive. I really wish it came in a "travel size" tube instead of the mega-family tube. Even if I live another 100 years, I'll never use it all at home.

As i saw it available in 100gram tube.

https://nl.farnell.com/en-NL/molykote/molykote-55-100g/55-o-ring-grease-tub-100g/dp/3605779